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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / October 2005lysine type chewing gum to kill herpes simplex 1
Is there a lysine type chewing gum out there or something that will kill the herpes oral virus from infecting you if you happen to kiss someone with this virus? >Is there a lysine type chewing gum out there Nope. >or something that will kill the >herpes oral virus Soap and water kills it easily. >from infecting you if you happen to kiss someone with this >virus? The only time it can transfer is when it's shedding. And most of the time, it's not. Problem is, knowing when it IS shedding. During an outbreak is a no brainer. However, a small percentage of the time it might shed with no visible signs. It's those few times that worry people. Sorry I didn't answer your question the way you'd like but there is no satisfactory answer. Hope the FYI will help though. M2 > Is there a lysine type chewing gum out there or something that will kill the > herpes oral virus from infecting you if you happen to kiss someone with this > virus? If you are worried about it, as you probably should, I would say carry on you one of those small containers of mouthwash. Perl von Molson Hi Nospam ~ Mouthwash is not going to kill the herpes virus. Take Care, Angela ;-)  SignatureSocial Support Networking Alliance - No one is as good as ALL of us! http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-hpv-ssna.html http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-support.html http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-h-pals.html >> Is there a lysine type chewing gum out there or something that will kill >> the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Perl von Molson No Spam, Angela is a very arrogant poster; she is an internet marketing agent, all she is doing is trying to attract more people to visit her Website where it is promoted prescription drugs. You will make yourself a great deal of favor avoiding her posts. Regarding mouthwash, it does kill viruses. There is a problem with some of the stuff used to kill herpes, that is in the case of mouthwash, it does not good for the skin and lips, it may interfere with the sebaceea glands, it may kill healthy cells of the skin and lips. Well, it is preferable to use it when trying to avoid catching cold sores, on a short term, as in the situation you've mentioned. I repeat, the greatest problem in treating herpes is that lots of products used, have a negative impact on the skin, lips etc. I am familiar with the ones used in treating herpes, less for the ones used to preventing acquiring herpes. Perhaps this listering would work: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007WZL9G.01-A3JT5IFQUYH884._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg Listerine PocketPaks Cool Mint Kills germs that cause bad breath. The problem with this products is they containg Aspartame, which is a nerve toxin. I don't know why it is not being replaced with other natural sweeteners Uses Dissolves instantly to kill germs for a clean mouth feeling. Directions First remove 1 Oral Care Strip from the convenient carrying case. Then place the Oral Care Strip on your tongue and let it dissolve. Use 1 Oral Care Strip as needed. For an added burst of flavor, use a second strip immediately after the first one dissolves. Warnings PHENYLKETONURICS: CONTAINS PHENYLALANINE. Active Ingredients Pullulan; Flavors; Menthol; Aspartame; Potassium Acesulfame; Copper Gluconate; Polysorbate 80; Carrageenan; Glyceryl Oleate; Eucalyptol; Methyl Salicylate; Thymol; Locust Bean Gum; Propylene Glycol; Xanthan Gum; FD&C Green No. 3 Perl von Molson > Hi Nospam ~ > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Perl von Molson >Regarding mouthwash, it does kill viruses. Point being, it won't prevent infection. Skin to skin contact is herps means of transfer and that takes place on the lips and vicinity. Killing virus inside the mouth won't do much good. M2 > >Regarding mouthwash, it does kill viruses. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > M2 That's a better answer than just saying that it doesn't work, without any single given reason why it doesn't. Killing the virus inside the mouth actually does a heck of a lot. I am wondering if some 40% alcohol (whisky, votka, etc) will do the same. Protecting the lips, cannot be done better with a chewing gum, don't you think? Well, there is a way to protect it. Carry in your pocket a tiny bottle with Melissa in ethanol solution. Kind of awkward. Go figure, carry 2 tiny bottles on your pocket. Anyway, I don't personally care, I already have been infected with herpes, if some company desires to came up with a product for this very purpose "Kissing miracle solution", it's up to them. It's a good question, how to protect yourself agains herpes and AIDS. As I've said, I know much more how to treat the symptoms than to prevent getting infected in the first place. P.S. AIDS can be transmitted as easily through kissing? (regardless to having cuts in your lips) Perl von Molson No, AIDS can't be passed on through basic kissing as herpes can be. Perl, herpes doesn't generally show up inside the mouth so using products inside the mouth to kill the virus is kind of silly. Herpes generally shows up OUTSIDE the mouth. If you wish to rub these products on your face, then you might as well just use soap and water and be done with it. ar >> >Regarding mouthwash, it does kill viruses. >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Perl von Molson "Silly? Herpes doesn't generally show up inside the mouth?" I'm surprised to read these from someone that reads about herpes for 1 or 2 decades. Herpes appears on the lips, visually, yes, but viruses also are found in saliva. Every single herpes related site tells about saliva and herpes infections; a simple google search returns 368,000 herpes + saliva, sites. Pathophysiology: HSV-1 infections are spread via respiratory droplets or direct exposure to infected saliva. HSV-2 usually is transmitted via genital contact. http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic246.htm Transmission of Oral Herpes Oral herpes (usually HSV-1) has been detected in both the saliva and blood of patients with active oral infections. It is the most prevalent form of HSV and infection is most likely to occur during preschool years. Oral herpes is easily spread by direct exposure to saliva or even from droplets in breath. Skin contact with infected areas is sufficient to spread it. Transmission most often occurs through close personal contact, such as kissing. In addition, because HSV-1 can be passed in saliva, people should also avoid sharing toothbrushes or eating utensils with an infected person. http://www.umm.edu/patiented/articles/how_herpes_simplex_virus_transmitted_00005 2_3.htm etc, etc, etc, Ar? > No, AIDS can't be passed on through basic kissing as herpes can be. > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > >Perl von Molson Hiya Perl, I couldn't open either of those links, I don't know why. I ran a google search and this is from one of the sites you quoted: http://www.umm.edu/patiented/articles/how_herpes_simplex_virus_transmitted_00005 2_3.htm HOW IS HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS TRANSMITTED? Direct contact with the herpes lesions or with bodily secretions that pass over active lesions is the basic means of viral transmission for both HSV-1 and HSV-2. The risk of transmission is lower during latency, but some chance always exists that the virus is shedding and transmissible at any time. After the initial episode, the infected person can transmit later infections by passing the virus on to other parts of his or her own body (most often the hands, thighs, or buttocks). This process, known as autoinoculation, is more common with HSV-2 but it can also occur with HSV-1. ******************************* Herpes virus is not found in blood or saliva. It is only found in these secretions IF the secretion has come in contact with a lesion. HOWEVER, that being said...it sure is confusing and it isn't very clear. When someone says that the virus can be found in saliva, well, how is that? How does the virus get there? The virus doesn't live in the saliva of an infected person. But it can show up there if the person is contagious and saliva has come in contact with the virus on the mucous membrane. So perhaps the confusion lies in semantics...I don't know. As to blood, if a person has HIV, then the disease is in the blood, right? At least that's my understanding of it. So, one can say that HIV is found in the blood. However, to say that herpes simplex is found in the blood is not the same thing. The simplex virus is not in the blood, unless the blood has come in contact with the virus on the skin, membrane, etc. I bring up the blood because it is listed along with saliva in a couple of locations. Anyway, those are my thoughts on it. ar >"Silly? Herpes doesn't generally show up inside the mouth?" > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >> > >> >Perl von Molson You're pretty funny Perl ~ Anybody that visits my site can see what it's all about. I've been an online patient advocate since 1997, run a herpes support group locally with the help of ASHA, and implemented several online volunteer programs that many people across the united states and around the world have chosen to do. The herpes community for the most part are good and decent people that understand team work. Let's see... we've got a pretty decent H Pal Program going on, then there is the Social Support Networking Alliance where social and support groups across the united states and around the world are highlighted, True Stories shared by all sorts of people from all over, got my telling story up, my herpes biography, and I could go on and on... oh and then there is the herpes awareness pages too. Were you feeling left out Perl? If you want to you can send me your herpes story and I would be more than happy to post it on my site.. especially if I think it's going to be helpful to the herpes community. As for substances that will kill the herpes virus on contact ~ the virus can't survive for long outside of it's host. So even herpes virus on an object could be killed simply by having exposed itself to fresh air. And no... mouth wash will not kill the herpes virus AND it's not a cold sore treatment either. Take Care Perl ~ Angela ;-) SignatureSocial Support Networking Alliance - No one is as good as ALL of us! *HOLIDAY PARTIES* and 2006 events posted! http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-hpv-ssna.html http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-support.html http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-h-pals.html > No Spam, Angela is a very arrogant poster; she is > an internet marketing agent, all she is doing is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You will make yourself a great deal of favor avoiding her posts. Hello Nospam ~ No, there is no such gum that I am aware of and even if there was it would not kill the herpes virus. In fact, Lysine has not been proven clinically to do anything for the herpes virus. Take Care, Angela ;-) SignatureSocial Support Networking Alliance - No one is as good as ALL of us! http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-hpv-ssna.html http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-support.html http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-h-pals.html > Is there a lysine type chewing gum out there or something that will kill > the > herpes oral virus from infecting you if you happen to kiss someone with > this > virus? |
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