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ironjustice - 25 Jul 2009 18:03 GMT
This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.mueller@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

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Ken - 25 Jul 2009 18:07 GMT
Spamming Dicksucker
ironjustice - 25 Jul 2009 18:30 GMT
On Jul 25, 10:07 am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:snip <<

Atheist .. those losers are you guys ..

Don't be cutting this post atheist ..

We don't want none of your drinking gay hepatitis ridden blog
buddies to miss .. out ..

This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

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Rustoleum - 25 Jul 2009 18:37 GMT
>This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
>times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers.

No, it doesn't say that, dumbass.

>Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
>the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
>progression.
>They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
>increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
>hepatic accumulation of iron.

Every time you post you show the world that you really don't have the
comprehension skills to be posting at all.
ferrous@paris.com - 25 Jul 2009 19:44 GMT
"This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers. "

Not so fast and loose with the facts.  It says iron is a resulting
effect not the cause of the two disorders.  It says iron might be one of
3 factors; not the only one; they are unable to say .  Death does not
come from iron but the disorders which damage the liver.

Bad, bad boy.
ironjustice - 26 Jul 2009 01:39 GMT
This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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hepc@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2009 02:39 GMT
>This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
>100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
>losers.

That's NOT what it says you idiot. It says those who have ALD and HCV
have a bigger problem. NOT those who drink. You're an illiterate and
ignorant a.shole with no reading skills.

Now go back to your little life and take a college level reading
course to improve your reading comprehension skills.

>Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
>A frequently underestimated combination.
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
>http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Happy Oyster - 26 Jul 2009 04:54 GMT
>This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
>100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
>losers.

That hogwash already was cleared out.

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ferrous@paris.com - 26 Jul 2009 17:09 GMT
"This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers. "

Not so fast and loose with the facts.  It says iron is a resulting
effect not the cause of the two disorders.  It says iron might be one of
3 factors; not the only one; they are unable to say .  Death does not
come from iron but the disorders which damage the liver.

Bad, bad boy.
hepc@yahoo.com - 26 Jul 2009 19:05 GMT
>"This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
>times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers. "
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Bad, bad boy.

An ignorant fool and liar.
Waterspider - 27 Jul 2009 17:55 GMT
>>"This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
>>times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers. "
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> An ignorant fool and liar.

Mental illness is his biggest fault; he really believes what he posts.
Sad that so many people feel compelled to flame, rather than ignore and
killfill him, but I guess that's their ignorance.
No finger-pointing though, I've been guilty too.
ironjustice - 28 Jul 2009 16:59 GMT
Mental illness is his biggest fault; <<

This group .. hepatitis c is for those with hepatitis and support ..
You've been here far longer than you should ..
This post has to do with 100X more chance of liver cancer.
YOU step on it ..

Now .. explain .. yourself ..

Or stay off my threads ..

Understand you hepatitis ridden .. atheist .. btch .. ?

This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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ken - 28 Jul 2009 17:53 GMT
Spamming Obsessive Compulsive Suffering Dicksucker
hepc@yahoo.com - 28 Jul 2009 23:05 GMT
> Mental illness is his biggest fault; <<
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Or stay off my threads ..

Or what? You're gonna beat him up?
Grow the hell up, put him in your filter (if you're not in control
enough to ignore him) and move on.

>Understand you hepatitis ridden .. atheist .. btch .. ?

"atheist"? Where the hell are you going now? Or are you going to tell
me only the fairy tale believing conservatives can post here?

>This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
>100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
>losers.

That's NOT what it says you idiot. It says, and I quote "Alcoholic
liver disease (ALD)". It does NOT define what ALD is nor does it
anywhere say "fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
losers."

You're a liar. Or your an idiot. I'll let you decide which you are for
yourself.

>Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
>A frequently underestimated combination.
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>Who loves ya.
>Tom
ironjustice - 28 Jul 2009 21:45 GMT
This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
hepc@yahoo.com - 28 Jul 2009 23:06 GMT
It's been pointed out that you can't read worth a damn...therefore
you've defined yourself as an idiot.

>This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
>100
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
>http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ironjustice - 29 Jul 2009 01:19 GMT
On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, h...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's been pointed out that you can't read worth a damn <<

It's been pointed out .. goofs .. don't post here ..

Write IT FKG DOWN ..

This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Happy Oyster - 29 Jul 2009 01:27 GMT
>On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, h...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It's been pointed out that you can't read worth a damn <<
>
>It's been pointed out .. goofs .. don't post here ..
>
>Write IT FKG DOWN ..

Bad influence...

The murderous god, who committed mass murder...?

Gott demoliert Jericho und   * "Sodann sprach er noch: 'Bauverbot,
tötet die Einwohner          * sonst schlag ich eure Söhne tot.'
(frei nach Josua, Kap. 6)    * So zogen sie von Ort zu Ort
http://www.reimbibel.de      * und übten sich in Massenmord."

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ironjustice - 29 Jul 2009 01:52 GMT
The murderous god, who committed mass murder...? <<

Using logic it tells you .. ?
If YOUR "murderous god" existed .. you and your ilk would
be .. longgggggg .. fkggggggg .. dead ..

Wouldn't ya .. atheist ..

But .. noooooo ..

This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100
times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

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Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Happy Oyster - 29 Jul 2009 08:53 GMT
>The murderous god, who committed mass murder...? <<
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>But .. noooooo ..

Which tells us that the god does not exist BUT those who claim the existence of
that god AND THEIR FOLLOWERS, who are THE REAL MURDERERS ***IN THE NAME OF THEIR
GOD***.

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hepc@yahoo.com - 29 Jul 2009 02:04 GMT
>>On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, h...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> It's been pointed out that you can't read worth a damn <<
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>The murderous god, who committed mass murder...?

It figures he'd be stupid enough to believe in a god.
ironjustice - 29 Jul 2009 02:14 GMT
On Jul 28, 6:04 pm, h...@yahoo.com wrote:
It figures he'd be stupid enough to believe in a god. <<

He is no less stupid than you ..
You both do and say the same stupid sht ..
You act like an atheist little btch .. or a lefthandedloon ..

Some type of predatory freak ..

So does he ..

This says fifty percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have
100 times more chance of dying from iron give or take a couple of
losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ironjustice - 29 Jul 2009 02:40 GMT
On Jul 28, 6:14 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...@rock.com> wrote: fifty
percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100 times more
chance of dying from iron <<

The detractors on this thread / atheists / homosexuals / math whizzes
seem to think the reference of "fifty percent of those who drink and
have hepatitis have
100 times more chance of dying from iron" .. is "wrong" .. and upon
reflection I have to agree.
What it actually says is 100% those drunken hepatitis carriers are 100
times more likely to get liver cancer.
Liver cancer is a death sentence.
I believe that may be more succinct ..
You atheists / math whizzes / homosexuals .. let me know if you
disagree .. still ..

This says 100 percent of those who drink and have hepatitis have 100
times
more chance of dying from liver cancer caused by the increased
iron ..  give
or take a couple of losers.

Alcoholic liver disease and hepatitis C:
A frequently underestimated combination.
World J Gastroenterol. 2009 Jul 28;15(28):3462-71.

Mueller S, Millonig G, Seitz HK.

Department of Medicine and Center for Alcohol Research,
Liver Disease and Nutrition, Salem Medical Center,
University of Heidelberg, Zeppelinstrasse 11-33,
69121 Heidelberg, Germany.
sebastian.muel...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de.

Alcoholic liver disease (ALD) and hepatitis C virus
(HCV) infection represent, either alone or in combination,
more than two thirds of all patients with liver disease
in the Western world.
This review discusses the epidemiology and combined
impact of ALD and HCV on the progression of liver disease.
ALD and HCV affect the progression of liver disease to liver
cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) in a synergistic
manner.
Thus, the risk for HCC increases five times with a daily
alcohol consumption of 80 g; in the presence of HCV it is
increased 20-fold, and a combination of both risk factors
leads to a more than 100-fold risk for HCC development.
Alcohol consumption also decreases the response to interferon
treatment which is probably due to a lack of compliance than a
direct effect on HCV replication.
Several molecular mechanisms are discussed that could explain
the synergistic interaction of alcohol and HCV on disease
progression.
They include modulation of the immune response and apoptosis,
increased oxidative stress via induction of CYP2E1 and the
hepatic accumulation of iron.
Thus, both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation in > 50% of patients probably due to suppression
of the liver-secreted systemic iron hormone hepcidin.
A better understanding of hepcidin regulation could help in
developing novel therapeutic approaches to treat the chronic
disease in the future.
For now, it can be generally concluded that HCV-infected
patients should abstain from alcohol and alcoholics should
be encouraged to participate in detoxification programs.

PMID: 19630099

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ken - 29 Jul 2009 03:36 GMT
Spamming Retard
Happy Oyster - 29 Jul 2009 08:53 GMT
>> Who loves ya.
>> Tom
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Now compare:

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>But .. noooooo ..

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ironjustice - 29 Jul 2009 14:27 GMT
both HCV and alcohol independently cause hepatic iron
accumulation <<

Iron as a co-morbid factor in nonhemochromatotic liver disease
Alcohol, Volume 30, Issue 2, June 2003, Pages 137-144
Herbert L. Bonkovsky, Richard W. Lambrecht, Ying Shan

Abstract
Heavy iron overload, in both primary and secondary hemochromatosis,
may cause fibrosis of parenchymal organs, especially the liver.
The toxicity of iron is believed to involve increased oxidative
stress, with iron-catalyzed production of reactive oxygen species
causing oxidative damage to lipids, proteins, and nucleic acids.
Lesser degrees of hepatic iron deposition are also associated with,
and seem to be risk factors for, certain nonhemochromatotic liver
diseases.
Porphyria cutanea tarda is associated with hepatic iron overload
and responds to iron-reduction therapy.
Results of recent studies have demonstrated high prevalences
(about 60%–80%) of HFE gene mutations in patients with porphyria
cutanea tarda.
Chronic hepatitis C is another risk factor for porphyria cutanea
tarda.
Other recent evidence indicates that the prevalence of HFE gene
mutations is increased in chronic viral hepatitis and that patients
with chronic hepatitis C harboring especially the C282Y mutation
are more likely to suffer from advanced hepatic fibrosis or
cirrhosis and to do so at younger ages.
A role for modest iron overload in increasing severity of
alcohol-induced liver disease has been well established from
results of experimental studies.
However, it is currently unresolved whether mild-to-moderate
hepatic iron deposition or heterozygosity for the C282Y mutation
plays a role in human alcoholic liver disease or in nonalcoholic
fatty liver disease or nonalcoholic steatohepatitis.
There is persuasive evidence that iron reduction decreases insulin
resistance, and it likely also decreases oxidative stress, two key
pathogenic features of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease/nonalcoholic
steatohepatitis.
Iron loading has also been described after portosystemic shunts
and in end-stage liver disease.

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>>>On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, h...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> It's been pointed out that you can't read worth a damn <<
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>It figures he'd be stupid enough to believe in a god.

Exactly.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), ironjustice <ironjustice@rock.com>
wrote:

>The murderous god, who committed mass murder...? <<
>
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>
>But .. noooooo ..

Which tells us that the god does not exist BUT those who claim the existence of
that god AND THEIR FOLLOWERS, who are THE REAL MURDERERS ***IN THE NAME OF THEIR
GOD***.

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