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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / June 2009cafffeine
This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent information on this. Apparently coffee has an advantageous side effect, amongst others, in that it has been shown to be helpful in reducing liver cancer in people with hepatitis C. That aside, caffeine is a diuretic. That means it increases the flow of urine through the body. I suppose if you are on treatment (which has a dehydrating effect) and you were to take No-Doze or other caffeine pills without increasing your fluid intake to compensate for the increase in urine flow, that this would only serve to compound the dehydration which you are suffering from the treatment. Caffeinated beverages, on the other hand, such as cola, tea and coffee have a fluid component which surely must count something towards the required fluid intake. The question is, is the fluid component of caffeinated beverages sufficient to offset the added urine flow caused by the same beverage and, if so, is there enough fluid component to actually count toward the required fluid intake for a person on treatment. Is a coffee considered a plus, minus or of neutral when you are trying to determine your fluid intake during treatment. > This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent > information on this. Apparently coffee has an advantageous side effect, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > or of neutral when you are trying to determine your fluid intake during > treatment. I'd say "no". All I know is that my doctor told me to drink half of my body weight in ounces of water every day -- over and above anything else I drank. He said even fruit juice didn't count toward that total. Sara > This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent > information on this. Apparently coffee has an advantageous side effect, > when you are trying to determine your fluid intake during > treatment. Chuck, wow, it's sounds like you're trying to "bargain" with the hep-c so you can hang on to the coffee and soda lifestyle? my experience was; at about week 3 of treatment, coffee and soda made me sick, it was almost instantaneous after ingesting it. I learned the hard way to drink 4-5 20oz. bottles of water a day. I think i agree with Sara, just say "no" to coffee and pop, and I'd also stay away from junk food, try to eat healthy, lots of water and juice. your mind and body will thank you. good luck joe > This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent > information on this. Apparently coffee has an advantageous side effect, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > coffee considered a plus, minus or of neutral when you are trying to > determine your fluid intake during treatment. Enjoy your morning cup of coffee if your body tolerates it. After that, drink water water water. I did cheat and drink Kool-Aid for some variety. Lay off the sodas. Be nice to your body and it will be nicer to you. > This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent > information on this. Apparently coffee has an advantageous side effect, > amongst others, in that it has been shown to be helpful in reducing liver > cancer in people with hepatitis C. That aside, caffeine is a diuretic. I don't believe in chronic use caffeine has any significant diruetic effect at all. |>On May 5, 9:34?am, "Chuck" <ch...@canada.ca> wrote: |>> This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] |>I don't believe in chronic use caffeine has any significant diruetic |>effect at all. I drink 12 cups of coffee a day, no laitier/dairy, chain smoke with 13 cups of kool aid a day. I eat regularly and quite well. I proly do this for energy, since hep-b-c+, with venal vaso-constriction is quite similar to "laytalk yellow jaundice" and robs a lot of sympathetic energy out of your system Sure I go to the Loo for a leek about 15X a day, but all this is what my body seems to like......seems to filter out clear as expected. My *creat* is fine in spite of a 1988 Nephrectomy or was it a rip off....they said they found renal cancer...no x-rays just say so....I do get suckered into some don't I. .....If it feels good, DO IT.....right? why not you only "live" once....  SignatureTriad Productions-Fantalla~EZine~ParaNovel National Association of Assault Research (http://*remove*members.fortunecity.com/vampire34/htmlconc.html) Everyone's system is a little different from the others. Some can handle one regime and not another. Each person has to try different things out carefully and see what works for them. While it is sometimes recommended to visit a doctor, one has to keep their health firmly in their own hands. Doctors are human and make mistakes and miss things. Look at the statistic that almost 100,000 people lose their lives at hospitals just from medical personnel errors. And I don't doubt that many are losing their lives or health to what is not known about newer drugs being advertised. The drug companies have gotten such huge profits that now they have to keep up that level of income. That means they may take shortcuts to get products on the market and being used. An example is Vioxx. Although it's been shown to kill some people, they still advertise and sell it, just with a more carefully worded warning. Of course, the FDA is very helpful in these cases. Good luck, Chris Don't even get me started on drug companies and the FDA. The drug companies are not in the business of curing sick people. Their aim is to treat sick people forever. If a person is cured he will not need any further treatment and this is of no benefit to the drug companies who are in the business of selling drugs. Healthy people do not need drugs, nor do cured people. The best patient is one you can keep alive for years and keep dependent on your treatment in order to control the symptoms of the disease. R & D goes primarily into discovering treatment for the symptoms of a disease, not a cure. The FDA on the other hand works arm in arm with the drug companies. As an arm of the government (not a panel of physicians and surgeons as should be the case) they make it as difficult as possible to go against the drug companies. This is because of the camaraderie and financial incentives provided to the government by the drug companies. I am not advocating that you go out on a limb and look at unproved alternative treatments for Hep C, just be aware that the drug companies and the government do not have your best interests in mind. > Don't even get me started on drug companies and the FDA. The drug > companies [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > just be aware that the drug companies and the government do not have your > best interests in mind. Paronia will destroy ya. > This has probably been asked before but I can't seem to locate any recent > information on this. Apparently coffee has an advantageous side effect, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > coffee considered a plus, minus or of neutral when you are trying to > determine your fluid intake during treatment. For what it's worth, my treatment nurse tells me that any drink with an amount of caffeine equivalent to a cup of fresh brewed coffee will actually require an extra glass of water. That it, in fact, robs you of a glass of fluid. He also says that any fluid is good although he doesn't recommend too much fruit juice because of the sugar content. I assume this would apply to most non-diet soft drinks too. So if you like your morning coffee and you can keep it down go ahead just increase your fluids accordingly. > For what it's worth, my treatment nurse tells me that any drink with an > amount of caffeine equivalent to a cup of fresh brewed coffee will actually > require an extra glass of water. That it, in fact, robs you of a glass of > fluid.<< I hope you told her she's wrong. On May 29, 10:01 am, "Chuck" <ch...@canada.ca> wrote: > For what it's worth, my treatment nurse tells me that any drink with an > amount of caffeine equivalent to a cup of fresh brewed coffee will > actually > require an extra glass of water. That it, in fact, robs you of a glass of > fluid.<< I hope you told her she's wrong. Why? Is it? I don't know. Is there anything out there I could reference? > On May 29, 10:01 am, "Chuck" <ch...@canada.ca> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Why? Is it? I don't know. Is there anything out there I could reference? Google the subject...chronic caffeine use does not contribute to dehydration to any appreciable degree... On Jun 1, 6:35 am, "Chuck" <ch...@canada.ca> wrote: > "Suri Cruise" <withba...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Why? Is it? I don't know. Is there anything out there I could reference? Google the subject...chronic caffeine use does not contribute to dehydration to any appreciable degree... I did, and I learned that there's quite a controversy about the subject since the release of an article by an author, hired by the Beverage Institute for Health & Wellness (BIHW) of the Coca-Cola Company. So, I consider the source and read between the lines. Then I consider that here, on ash-c, we're talking about caffeine in combination with tx for hep c, which (also) causes dehydration. Back to where we started: drink your coffee, but water to compensate. Period. |
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