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topcat - 24 Feb 2009 01:59 GMT I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ drawls? I'm taking 1 tab of codeine/tylenol every 3 to 4 hours. I pop my first one in the am about an hour before I get out of bed. and take the last one about an hour before bed, average about 4-5 a day. thanks, joe
greyhackles - 24 Feb 2009 03:05 GMT >I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the >archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ >drawls? I'm taking 1 tab of codeine/tylenol every 3 to 4 hours. I >pop my first one in the am about an hour before I get out of bed. and >take the last one about an hour before bed, average about 4-5 a day. >thanks, joe Yikes - that's a lot of Vicodin. Should we call you "House"? ;-)
Speaking from my own experience, the only "withdrawal" symptoms were good ones: I felt better and better with each passing day. The flu-ish feelings were gone a few days after my last Peg shot, and the lingering nausea and metallic taste to everything vanished within a few days after the last handful of Riba a week later.
The most profound "withdrawal symptoms" were from rapidly improving blood counts. After one week off the therapy drugs my hemoglobin went from 9.4 g/dl to 10.9; by the end of the second week it was up to 12.4, I was taken off the Epogen for the first time in 35 weeks, and I felt like I was 20 years younger (which, considering I felt like a decrepit 70 year old while on therapy, was a real game changer ;-)
Really, there were absolutely *no* bad feelings - it was all excellent. My normal energy levels came back (and then some - I went a bit hyperthyroid for a few weeks), I ate better - and actually enjoyed eating again - I slept better, I could deal with people and their problems better, I could do anything I wanted to do and feel good doing it. Family and friends picked up on it immediately, it was that obvious.
But then I wasn't trying to kick a serious Vicodin habit :-( I suspect that's going to give you way more of a problem than being rid of the treatment drugs. I had a bit milder of a Vicodin habit before my last back surgery about a decade ago and I was advised to taper off over a week. You might give that a try rather than just stopping short...
On the up side, you have to feel good about being done after going through a full course of treatment. Use that to get you past this other problem...
Cheers
/greyhackles
tom g. - 24 Feb 2009 03:35 GMT >>I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the >>archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Speaking from my own experience, the only "withdrawal" symptoms were good > ones: I felt better and better with each passing day. I second that! Nowhere to go but up.
topcat - 27 Feb 2009 19:25 GMT > >I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the > >archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > /greyhackles Thanks for the info Grey. Guess I never really thought about withdrawls when I started these pills, I just wanted the pain to go away. Anyway, I decided to try and cut my dose in half starting today. tonight I take my last Riba. I am going to try and get off the hydrocodone in 2 or 3 days instead of 2 or 3 weeks the dr. suggested. we'll see. take care, joe
Sara - 27 Feb 2009 20:42 GMT > > >I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the > > >archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Joe -- take it slow please. vicodin can/will make you really sick if you try to get off of it too fast.. be good to yourself, there is no rush ya know :)
Sara
topcat - 28 Feb 2009 01:24 GMT > > > >I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the > > > >archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > - Show quoted text - you might be right, I've done a little more research and it all says withdrawl can be nasty business if you go too fast. I'm ok today even tho I have cut my usual dose in half. I would expect if I was going to have problems, I will feel it tonight. If I'm ok in the am, I am going to stick to 1/2 tab 3x's day for a day or 2 then cut it to 1/4 and see what happens. If I go pysychotic, i'll let you know, :)
topcat - 02 Mar 2009 02:18 GMT > > > > >I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the > > > > >archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > - Show quoted text - well, the first 2 days were ok, but today, when I cut the dose to 1/4, i'm getting lots of body aches, some fever/chills and headaches. I'm going to try to stay on 1/4 every 3 hours for another day or 2 and hopefully quit.
Cactus Jammies - 02 Mar 2009 05:25 GMT well, the first 2 days were ok, but today, when I cut the dose to 1/4, i'm getting lots of body aches, some fever/chills and headaches. I'm going to try to stay on 1/4 every 3 hours for another day or 2 and hopefully quit. ....................................... Take care, bro.
cactus jammies Om Tara Tutare Ture Soha
topcat - 02 Mar 2009 05:55 GMT On Mar 1, 10:25 pm, "Cactus Jammies" <cactusjamm...@retinalcircus.orb> wrote:
> well, the first 2 days were ok, but today, when I cut the dose to 1/4, > i'm getting lots of body aches, some fever/chills and headaches. I'm [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > cactus jammies > Om Tara Tutare Ture Soha Thanks CJ, hey, I've been meaning to ask you, what song is that Dylan line from: "nothing was delivered"? Many many years ago I, (like everybody else) did a lot of Dylan songs as part of my repetoire back before I threw in the towel for a steady paycheck and no soul.
Cactus Jammies - 02 Mar 2009 14:01 GMT "topcat" <hopin@live.com> wrote in message. On Mar 1, 10:25 pm, "Cactus Jammies" wrote:
> ....................................... > Take care, bro. > > cactus jammies > Om Tara Tutare Ture Soha ...................................................... Thanks CJ, hey, I've been meaning to ask you, what song is that Dylan line from: "nothing was delivered"? Many many years ago I, (like everybody else) did a lot of Dylan songs as part of my repetoire back before I threw in the towel for a steady paycheck and no soul. -TC ///////////////////////////////////////////////////
Hmmm. I think that Dylan put that song into his Basement Tapes collection, but he let the Byrds record it on "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" back in '68, I think. Dylan toured with the Byrds for a while, using them as his stage band more or less, and then the Band took on that role after Dylan's recovery from his motorcycle accident. Big Pink was essentially The Band's expression of the transformation from the folk-ish to the country rock-ish styles that Dylan underwent, too. Big Pink was the name they gave to the house in Woodstock NY where Dylan spent much of his time recovering, and recording some of the songs that later came out on bootlegs and Basement Tapes. And the members of the Band recorded the album there, too.
My all time favourite Dylan song (or one of them anyway) is "My Back Pages" which the Byrds also covered on that Sweetheart album. Dylan was on tour in '73 or '74 and the intro song for the first set was a very loud instrumental version of My Back Pages. I can remember the shivvers going through my whole body hearing it as I was sitting in my seat at Vancouver Coliseum. I am stuck in those years, musically. Those types of songs are the ones I still jingle jangle with on my Rickenbacker 12 and raunch out on with the Gibson LP Deluxe. Even those instruments are 'legacy' type instruments of that era. Just missing a Telecaster, but oh well, only so many arms and legs, anyway. LOL
cheers cactus jammies
Cactus Jammies - 02 Mar 2009 17:45 GMT OT wistful nostalgia here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBSIyK_GSE
My Back Pages: w/Dylan,Harrison,McGuinn,Clapton,Young,Petty cj
> "topcat" <hopin@live.com> wrote in message. > On Mar 1, 10:25 pm, "Cactus Jammies" wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > cheers > cactus jammies topcat - 02 Mar 2009 20:04 GMT On Mar 2, 10:45 am, "Cactus Jammies" <cactusjamm...@retinalcircus.orb> wrote:
> OT wistful nostalgia herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBSIyK_GSE > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > - Show quoted text - cj, i'd love to talk to you more, but right now i'm jumpier than a frog on a hot-plate going thru withdrawals from the vicodin. i went cold turkey this am. i started cutting down on friday. i figure if the dr. said it usually takes 3 weeks, he doesn't know me, I'll do it in 3 days. later
Paul - 03 Mar 2009 17:58 GMT On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:04:45 -0800 (PST), topcat <hopin@live.com>, in message ID <838fdee5-c406-464e-9168-40c3a7bbf7c5@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
>cj, i'd love to talk to you more, but right now i'm jumpier than a >frog on a hot-plate going thru withdrawals from the vicodin. i went >cold turkey this am. i started cutting down on friday. i figure if >the dr. said it usually takes 3 weeks, he doesn't know me, I'll do it >in 3 days. late I made my previous post before reading the whole thread. If you're coping with the withdrawals without excercising then good on ya. Might as well put up with it and get it over sooner. Not nice though. I well remember my own withdrawals after long term methadone addiction (taken as a heroin substitute rather than for pain). Not pretty but it didn't kill me.
Cactus Jammies - 24 Feb 2009 03:46 GMT >I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the > archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ > drawls? I'm taking 1 tab of codeine/tylenol every 3 to 4 hours. I > pop my first one in the am about an hour before I get out of bed. and > take the last one about an hour before bed, average about 4-5 a day. > thanks, joe Hey Joe, I don't know about the pain narcs, but other than that, eat well to build up metabolism and blood, go for walks by yourself at first if you feel socially out of it, and get plenty of rest. And water when you think of it. It will all get better.
Just take care of your health and get plenty of rest...
-Bob Dylan 'Nothing was Delivered'
cactus jammies
Paul - 03 Mar 2009 17:55 GMT On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:59:24 -0800 (PST), topcat <hopin@live.com>, in message ID <7daf077c-16e8-43a5-8dbc-b58d89bb054e@w34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
>I take my last Riba pills on friday. I'm too lazy to search the >archives so just thought I'd ask; are they any tips for going thru w/ >drawls? I'm taking 1 tab of codeine/tylenol every 3 to 4 hours. I >pop my first one in the am about an hour before I get out of bed. and >take the last one about an hour before bed, average about 4-5 a day. >thanks, joe I know this might sound unrealistic at the moment but one way of assisting with withdrawals is to take excercise. I'm not offering it as a cure all - merely as an assist. Excercise gets the natural endorphines going again. The problem is that when taking an opioid/opiate for a sustained period, the body ceases to produce (or produces less) endorphines because the drugs do it for the body. Unfortunately, when the drugs are stopped, there is a period of time before the body starts producing them properly again. This is the period where withdrawals occur. Excercise stimulates endorphine production. Ok, ok, I know. How do you excercise when you feel like sh.t? Well, I suppose it's just about doing what you can and no more. Thinking a little more about it, maybe it would be better to stay on the opioids a little longer until the post tx exhaustion has eased up a bit. Then you may be in a better position to do excercise to ease the withdrawals. All subject to doctor's opinion of course as he/she has all your details and I don't.
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