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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / May 2009Hi everybody I have a question
These last few weeks my urine is real dark and my stool is pale white. Am I a goner? > These last few weeks my urine is real dark and my stool is pale white. > Am I a goner? Dark urine and pale stool is a sign that your liver is in tough shape, but it's not necessarily a death sentence. It is, however, a very loud warning bell. What does your doctor say? You need some bloodwork a.s.a.p. and a liver biopsy to find out where you stand and what can be done about it. Do you have hepatitis C? > > These last few weeks my urine is real dark and my stool is pale white. > > Am I a goner? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > liver biopsy to find out where you stand and what can be done about it. Do > you have hepatitis C? Those are usually signs of an acute hepatitis process. Could be any of the hepatitis viruses or toxic chemical exposure. Bloodwork definitely needed ASAP, but no rush for a biopsy until you know what is what. Good luck. Let us know how you make out. Thom >> > These last few weeks my urine is real dark and my stool is pale white. >> > Am I a goner? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Good luck. Let us know how you make out. >Thom In lieu of additional information, I totally agree - these sound like acute phase symptoms. I had the same symptoms when I was going through acute HCV 35 years ago (including major fatigue). Took about four weeks to abate. So, avoid dairy and meat products - and alcohol, drugs, smoking, chemical exposure - for the next month, to take unnecessary loads off your liver. And see a physician asap for a dx. If it turns out to be HCV, this is the best time to smack that dragon upside the head... Good luck. /greyhackles >> These last few weeks my urine is real dark and my stool is pale >> white. Am I a goner? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a.s.a.p. and a liver biopsy to find out where you stand and what can > be done about it. Do you have hepatitis C? I have Hepatitis C and they did a biopsy through my neck, they showed me the thing and it was all yellow. This was June of 2007 On the way home from the hospital after the biopsy I had abdominal pain so intense I had my wife pull over and call an ambulance. I was screaming from the pain and noticed my blood pressure, the bottom reading was 120 instead of the normal 70. They found nothing but some evidence of a tiny gallstone. The ER was the same hospital where they died the biopsy. Worst pain I've ever had, I was preparing to either see the priest or emergency surgery. They told me nothing was found related to the biopsy and after some negotiation they said I was responsible for the $3000 emergency room bill. On the followup appointment perhaps 2 weeks later she said something about end stage 4 yellow scarred lumpy cirrhosis of the liver and I was not eligibler to have any treatment because I take prednisone, but maybe give them a call if my eyballs turn yellow. She said it was not nessacary to return. For about a week after the biopsy I had the pale stool business but it disappeared. It reappeard a month or so ago. My wife scheduled another appointment and requested another doctor to see me, in January. I feel terrible, strength and motivation is gone. Massive night or day sweats. Massive, the whole bed gets wet. I fear seeing anyone because every doctor I have seen over the last few years finds something major wrong, such as type 2 diabetes, osteoporsis scores the worse they've ever seen, copd, sleep apnea, orthepic surgeries and difficult rehabs, cataracts sinisitus, a massive kidney infection 4 years ago from the damn catheter at the damn hospital when they replaced my knee. It was Dr Forman at the UCHSC who did all this. Once bitten twice shy. , uchsc, >> "BonepAin" <email@liame> wrote in message > > I have Hepatitis C and they did a biopsy through my neck, they showed me > the thing and it was all yellow. This was June of 2007 I hate to bust your bubble, but you did not have a biopsy. I don't have a clue what they did, or what they showed you that was "all yellow," but the purpose of a biopsy to to determine the extent of liver damage. Your liver isn't in your neck. Find another doctor--F-A-S-T. Like tomorow. If the appointment with the new gastro is in the same clinic as the other one, run far far far in the other direction. Sheesh, I hope you're not going to Atlanta Gastro--they have a couple loonies on staff there. >>> "BonepAin" <email@liame> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Sheesh, I hope you're not going to Atlanta Gastro--they have a couple >loonies on staff there. Thipper, he probably had a transjugular liver biopsy (aka transvenous liver biopsy), where a catheter is inserted into the jugular vein and is guided to the liver, at which point a specialized needle is threaded down the catheter and a liver sample is taken. This is commonly performed when the patient has a potential problem with controlling the bleeding that a (traditional) percutaneous liver biopsy usually causes. Patients with seriously staged liver disease usually have their platelet count bottomed out... /greyhackles >>>> "BonepAin" <email@liame> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > /greyhackles I stand corrected, grey, and thanks for enlightening me. The fact still remains that showing him that yellow junk was an exercise in total lunacy and didn't inform him of a blessed thing. IMO, he needs a decent doctor who will sit him down and explain exactly what's going on. Even if it's bad news, it's far easier to deal with the known than to have your imagination run wild. >>>>> "BonepAin" <email@liame> wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >remains that showing him that yellow junk was an exercise in total lunacy >and didn't inform him of a blessed thing. Oh hell yes Thip, you're right about that! There's no end of nitwit medical "professionals" out there. Makes it a real crap-shoot finding the good ones (and in case anyone's wondering, there *are* good doctors out there. I'm not anti-medical - I'm anti-nitwit ;-) >IMO, he needs a decent doctor who will sit him down and explain exactly >what's going on. Even if it's bad news, it's far easier to deal with the >known than to have your imagination run wild. And about that, too! Cheers /greyhackles Appears that it wont display correctly without using a fixed font. A cat scan and some kind of look in my eosphogaus is scheduled laters UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER UCHSC 01/09/2009 11:25:00 AM COMPLETE HEMATOLOGY PROFILE Test Units Ref. Range Result Name L=Low H=High ---------------------------------------------- WBC 10^9/L 4.0-11.1 10.1 RBC x10(12)/L 4.76-6.09 5.68 HGB g/dL 14.3-18.1 18.6 H HCT % 40.8-52.3 54.8 H MCV fL 80.0-100.0 96.5 MCH pg 28.0-34.0 32.8 MCHC g/dL 32.0-36.0 34.0 RDW % 10.5-13.0 11.8 PLT 10^9/L 150-400 232 MPV fL 6.8-10.9 9.2 NEUT% % 40.0-84.0 68.4 LYMPH%% 20.0-50.0 20.7 MONO% % 2.0-11.0 9.6 EO% % 0.0-6.0 1.2 BASO% % 0.0-2.0 0.0 NEUT# 10^9/L 1.8-7.8 6.9 LYMPH#10^9/L 1.0-4.8 2.1 MONO# 10^9/L 0.2-0.9 1.0 H EO# 10^9/L 0.0-0.4 0.1 BASO# 10^9/L 0.0-0.2 0.0 COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL TestName Units Ref. Range Result ---------------------------------------------- NA mmol/L 133-145 135 K mmol/L 3.3-5.0 4.1 CL mmol/L 101-111 98 L BUN mg/dL 6-23 10 CREAT mg/dL 0.4-1.2 0.8 * GLU R mg/dL 60-199 140 CALCIUMmg/dL 8.5-10.3 9.8 AST U/L 0-47 139 H ALP U/L 39-117 98 PROTTOTg/dL 6.4-8.3 8.0 BILI T mg/dL 0.0-1.3 1.6 H CO2 mmol/L 22-32 23 ALT U/L 0-47 96 H ALB g/dL 3.4-5.0 4.0 NEW AFP TUMOR MARKER Test Units Ref. Range Result --------------------------------------------- *AFP ng/mL 0.0-9.0 15.4 H* **AFP: NEW AFP assay will formally replace current AFP test on 3/9/2009. Both AFP and NEW AFP results are provided to allow for clinician rebaselining of patient AFP results being used as a tumor marker. PROTHROMBIN TIME Test Units Ref. Range Result -------------------------------------- PROTIMESec 12.0-14.6 14.6 INR* 0.9-1.1 1.1 * *INR: THERAPEUTIC RANGE: Standard 2.0-3.0; High-risk.......2.5-3.5 INRs are most often used to monitor Warfarin. High risk treatment is used in standard treatment failure and in patients with mechanical valves. Please note that it is common for healthy people to have some test results outside of the “reference range.” Be assured that the clinics review every test result, and that minor abnormalities are often not concerning. Concerned. How are you doing Bonepa1 >Appears that it wont display correctly without using a fixed font. > [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] >clinics review every test result, and that >minor abnormalities are often not concerning. Well godamn now I have liver cancer diagnosed via contrasting cat scan and blood tests. > Well godamn now I have liver cancer diagnosed via contrasting cat scan and > blood tests. Bummer! Stay in touch and let us know how you are. >> Well godamn now I have liver cancer diagnosed via contrasting cat >> scan and blood tests. > > Bummer! Stay in touch and let us know how you are. Wow, someone cares! Sorry too cynical Liver TRansplant: Negative, it would cure the whole thing, but its reserved for the wealthy and priveliged. Chemo-Emobolization: Annoying but perhaps affective. Stayed the night with free food and cable tv. RFA radio frequency coming up, perhaps the radio waves will play oldies to the tumor, like Gilligan when he received radio transmission in his molars. |
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