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Hello and please help evaluate my two biopsies

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scallawag - 16 Aug 2008 17:47 GMT
Hello to the group this is my first post. I have had Hep C for about 35
to 45 years. I was diagnosed (non A non B) years ago so as soon as C was
named I knew I had it. Went with about 56 weeks of combo treatment two
years ago but relapsed. My Doc said 48 to 72 weeks, the longer was
better.

Any way please look at the following info from two biopsies and tell me
what you see. Looks to me my liver is about the same as in Jan. of 2000.
I have heard a lot about iron lately. Does the second report look good
or bad as far as the iron.

Thanks for any info... scallawag

Liver needle biopsy specimen: 1/28/2000

Chronic Hepatitis C.

Grade 1 portal periportal inflamation.

Grade 1 Lobular inflamation.

Stage 0 fibrosis.

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Needle core biopsy , Liver: 8/08/08

Chronic Hepatitis with minimal activity consistent with hepatitis C.

Total Knodell score : 2 of 22.

Portal Inflammation: Minimal.  Score: 1

Interface hepatitis : Not Identified. Score: 0

Intralobular Necrosis: Mild. Score: 1

Fibrosis (Trichrome, Reticulin) :  No significant fibrosis identified.
Score: 0

Number of Portal tracks identified: 10.

Additional findings: Pas Stains for Alpha  I Antitrypsin globules are
negitive.

The Iron Stain is 0- 1+ Positive for focal hepatocellular Iron.
Cactus Jammies - 16 Aug 2008 19:01 GMT
> Hello to the group this is my first post. I have had Hep C for about 35
> to 45 years. I was diagnosed (non A non B) years ago so as soon as C was
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> The Iron Stain is 0- 1+ Positive for focal hepatocellular Iron.

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Hi Scallawag,
 It looks like you have been doing something right.  I don't know about the
iron, and there are some new indecies on your second bx report that I am not
familiar with.  Having said that, did your doctor say anything about waiting
for another treatment regemen that may be more effective with relapsers like
yourself?  You have nil fibrosis.  That is quite something.   Ask your doc
about waiting for one of the protease inhibitors.  72 weeks is grim.

cactus jammies
scallawag - 16 Aug 2008 19:43 GMT
> > Hello to the group this is my first post. I have had Hep C for about 35
> > to 45 years. I was diagnosed (non A non B) years ago so as soon as C was
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> yourself?  You have nil fibrosis.  That is quite something.   Ask your doc
> about waiting for one of the protease inhibitors.  72 weeks is grim.
Thanks cactus jammies

My doc advised not to try standard treatment again. He said he would get
me on the Phase 3 clinical trial with Telaprevir if I wanted. I guess
that just adds the Telaprevir to the standard treatment for a limited
time. I think that would start this year.
He also said one other company has clinical trial starting that look
just as promising as Telaprevir.  He said he would not have said that
two weeks ago.

btw: I am genotype 1, 60 years old

Thanks again

> cactus jammies
Waterspider - 16 Aug 2008 23:14 GMT
I'd be at the crossroads in a heartbeat for a 0 fibrosis result!
Congratulations, and please tell us your secret :-)
greyhackles - 17 Aug 2008 00:15 GMT
>> > Hello to the group this is my first post. I have had Hep C for about 35
>> > to 45 years. I was diagnosed (non A non B) years ago so as soon as C was
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>> cactus jammies

As CJ said, your liver is in remarkable shape considering your history. Iron
accumulation is a typical hallmark of HCV inflammation, but again, you're at
or near the bottom end of the scale there, too.

The alternative to Telaprevir is Boceprevir - but the latter is well behind
the former wrt clinical trials. With no negatively surprising P3 trial
results, I would expect Telaprevir to be FDA approved within the next 18
months, with Boceprevir at least two years behind.

Given your Knodell Score, and minimal level of current inflammation, I'd say
unless there is some other clinically evident manifestation of your chronic
HCV, waiting for Telaprevir to be fully approved would be the most reasonable
approach. I wouldn't sign up for a trial - because you could draw the short
straw and be put in the control group - in which case you'd be repeating your
previous therapy...

Cheers

/greyhackles
 
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