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what NOT to take?
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nospam - 11 Aug 2008 02:06 GMT Is there a comprehensive list anywhere that tells you what vitamins, supplements, medicines, and foods NOT to take/eat concerning HCV?
thanks
TX-012 - 11 Aug 2008 02:26 GMT > Is there a comprehensive list anywhere that tells you what vitamins, > supplements, medicines, and foods NOT to take/eat concerning HCV? > > thanks I've never seen one. Are you talking about "while on combo treatment" or simply "if you have [untreated] hep c?"
nospam - 11 Aug 2008 02:37 GMT In article <a9b0514a-28ee-435e-913b-f51e3777d706@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, withbacon@aol.com says...
>I've never seen one. Are you talking about "while on combo treatment" >or simply "if you have [untreated] hep c?" Any general list would be great.
Waterspider - 11 Aug 2008 06:36 GMT "nospam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote > >
> Any general list would be great. #1 - Alcohol
Waterspider - 11 Aug 2008 06:38 GMT > "nospam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote > > >> Any general list would be great. >> > #1 - Alcohol #2 - Snake oil
dBo - 12 Aug 2008 01:31 GMT Best advice, "Google it", and use your head. Keep your focus on legitimate medical and peer reviewed informaton and websites, not "Snake Oil Sellers", as WS points out
There's lot of information out there, just search for it. You can also search this newsgroup by keyword or phrase. Having been thru the Brain Fog of TX, I'll cut you a little slack here and skip the "No Brainer" suggestions, since being on TX is clearly a "no-brain-left" situation sometimes, haha! God knows once Brain Fog set in for good most of the time I was unable to "see" the simplest thing like "the reason the car door won't open is because it is locked...try the key..."... ;)
Anything you put into your body goes thru your liver. The idea is to give your liver a break, I suppose whether you are treating or not treating, you need to love your liver...don't eat, inhale or otherwise ingest things that will put additional strain on your liver.
here is a good starter link, nutrition-wise... http://janis7hepc.com/Nutrition/hepatitis_c_diet.htm
Cactus Jammies - 12 Aug 2008 02:57 GMT > Best advice, "Google it", and use your head. Keep your focus on > legitimate medical and peer reviewed informaton edit,
> here is a good starter link, nutrition-wise... > http://janis7hepc.com/Nutrition/hepatitis_c_diet.htm .................................... Hi dBo I don't know what qualifications the person who drew the diet in the Janis pages has, but I know the qualifications of the people responsible for this one:
http://www.the-gi-diet.org/lowgifoods/?gclid=CJ2nubmXh5UCFSBciAodcVvO1w
There are some similarities with the Janis one, and some shocking differences. The Janis diet struck me as rather New-Age ish with out real reason but for hyperbole.
Artichokes, Beets, Garlic (the best liver foods according many sources)
cactus jammies ~~~~~~~~~
dBo - 12 Aug 2008 11:47 GMT cool CJ, thx. Good point, thank for pointing out the one is from qulaitifed people.
I don't go crazy over it these days but know enough to avoid fats, too much red meat, fried foods and so on. Fruits & Veggie are good for us, regardless of hep c or not and so on....
My daugher in law is a registered dietician so I have a tendency to forward questions to her when I have them. She is not a qualitied Hep C professional, but she sure knows her stuff about diets, what is good for your body, and what is not good for your body.... :)
Cactus Jammies - 12 Aug 2008 14:35 GMT > cool CJ, thx. Good point, thank for pointing out the one is from > qulaitifed people. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > C professional, but she sure knows her stuff about diets, what is good > for your body, and what is not good for your body.... :) Speaking of preventing further degradation of the liver, you may find this very interesting.
July 13, 2007
HCV and the Body's Most Important Antioxidant
http://www.hepatitis-central.com/mt/archives/2007/07/hcv_and_the_bod.html
Chant: Glutathione!
also, another article by Ms. Palmer (google her name and see what you get)
http://www.hepatitis-central.com/mt/archives/2007/10/can_carbs_harm.html
oh isn't this fun?!
cactus jammies ~~~~~~~~
TX-012 - 12 Aug 2008 18:30 GMT On Aug 12, 6:35 am, "Cactus Jammies" <cactusjamm...@retinal.circus.orb> wrote:
> > qulaitifed people. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > cactus jammies ~~~~~~~~ Yeah--Melissa Palmer is very good, very useful and has a number of videos on youtube (and maybe elsewhere) re: hep c...esp hep c and women, but of course a lot of the information is gender neutral...
dBo - 12 Aug 2008 23:01 GMT Cool, thanks! I couldn't find all my links the other night when I first tried to reply. Like everything else, every time I make the effort to get myself more organized, I just seem to lose more things! haha! ;)
Lamentally, as well intentioned as I am about diet etc, I find myself reading and researching and trying to be a Good Girl, and always end up saying "see sausage IS good for me!" then look at the Blood Pressure/Low Sodium list and changing the toon to "NOT!" sigh!
So in the end, in order to making myself stark raving crazy, I go with my "usual" maintain a variety and use moderation in all.
At least I have finally accepted that Cheezits are NOT the "Breakfast of Champions"...
Cactus Jammies - 14 Aug 2008 15:51 GMT > Best advice, "Google it", and use your head. (edit) > here is a good starter link, nutrition-wise... > http://janis7hepc.com/Nutrition/hepatitis_c_diet.htm Well, the janis7hepc.com nutrition guide is wrong about coffee. that was old science and a guess, not a fact.
cactus jammies
Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA - 13 Aug 2008 15:26 GMT From : "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> Message-ID : <0uqdnYlxeflnUgLVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@posted.deltacablecommunications>
>"nospam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote > > >> Any general list would be great.
>#1 - Alcohol Sayz who huh ?
Crikey waterspout, are you courageously advocating for a no.booze hcv experience huh ? Now that's ballzy
-- HPVTS.OA.Tinfoil Sombrero God.Bless AUK for my award
Waterspider - 13 Aug 2008 20:39 GMT > From : "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> >>"nospam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Crikey waterspout, are you courageously advocating for a no.booze > hcv experience huh ? Now that's ballzy I though it was a novel idea. Who knows, someone may even give it a try.
Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA - 14 Aug 2008 13:09 GMT From : "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> Message-ID : <GfydnY1bcKofpT7VnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@posted.deltacablecommunications>
>> From : "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> >>>"nospam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Crikey waterspout, are you courageously advocating for a no.booze >> hcv experience huh ? Now that's ballzy
>I though it was a novel idea. Who knows, someone may even give it a try lol. about as novel as the missionary position.. you Canadians are so causally weird.. yo!
-- HPVTS.OA.Tinfoil Sombrero God.Bless AUK for my award
Waterspider - 14 Aug 2008 19:05 GMT > From : "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> > Message-ID : [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > lol. about as novel as the missionary position.. you Canadians are so > causally weird.. yo! Perhaps you missed the underlying sarcasm directed at those who maintain that "drinking a few beer is okay," which of course translates into a sixpack every evening. Casually weird is a compliment; unfortunately some of us are terminally stupid. <sigh>
Yura - 22 Aug 2008 03:47 GMT Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA said:
> From : "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> > Message-ID : <0uqdnYlxeflnUgLVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@posted.deltacablecommunications> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > HPVTS.OA.Tinfoil Sombrero > God.Bless AUK for my award Hasn't anyone killed you yet? GOD WHATS wrong with them? You're SUCH a waste of air.
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