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déjà vu déjà vu - 07 Mar 2008 13:47 GMT
March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.

Starting without biopsy with hcv-1-b.

I'll post updates good-bad (hope for good).

I walk or ride bike 8 miles per day, hope to continue but time will tell.

Jamffer
topcat - 07 Mar 2008 15:58 GMT
> March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.
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> Jamffer

Good luck you you J., you sound like you're in good shape to start
with so that's a big plus going into this thing.  I meet with my dr.
on tues to go over the biopsy results and plan tx.,
I wish I could walk or ride a bike 1 mile, but have no energy for
that.  Does that much exercise tear you down or do you feel pretty
good overall?
TC
déjà vu déjà vu - 07 Mar 2008 17:48 GMT
On Mar 7, 6:50 am, "déjà vu déjà vu" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.
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> Jamffer

Good luck you you J., you sound like you're in good shape to start
with so that's a big plus going into this thing.  I meet with my dr.
on tues to go over the biopsy results and plan tx.,
I wish I could walk or ride a bike 1 mile, but have no energy for
that.  Does that much exercise tear you down or do you feel pretty
good overall?
TC

*****

Pretty good, except for a little lower back pain.

I get some slight liver area tenderness when I eat heavy foods.

I suspect a bit of fibrosis because of over 30 years of occasional drinking
and pot smoking back in the 70s thru the 90s.

I don't do any no-nos now.

Winter storm days, I stay inside.

I'd love to have a drink and a smoke but living is better than that.

I don't think dieing from liver disease would be much fun.
Waterspider - 07 Mar 2008 18:55 GMT
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> I suspect a bit of fibrosis because of over 30 years of occasional
> drinking
> and pot smoking back in the 70s thru the 90s.

There is no evidence that pot smoking contributes to fibrosis. Alcohol on
the other hand...
Smoking pot got me through tx, lessening the side effects of nausea and
craziness.
Good luck, kill that dragon!
déjà vu déjà vu - 07 Mar 2008 19:40 GMT
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> craziness.
> Good luck, kill that dragon!

January 14, 2008
Hepatitis C, Liver Fibrosis and Marijuana

According to a recently published California study, people with Hepatitis C
who use cannabis daily risk developing fibrosis nearly seven times more than
non-users.

Chronic Marijuana Use May Increase Fibrosis for Hep C Patients
Sunday, January 06 2008 @ 11:05 PM EST
Edited by: Michael Hess

Daily cannabis use increases the risk of liver fibrosis in patients with
hepatitis C

http://bbsnews.net

BBSNews 2008-01-06 -- (IACM) According to research at the University of
California at San Francisco daily cannabis use was associated with moderate
to severe liver fibrosis in 204 patients with hepatitis C. Between 2001 and
2004, participants underwent interviews to assess demographic data, risk
factors for HCV, and use of cannabis and alcohol. In addition, virologic
testing and liver biopsy was performed.

The median age of the group was 46.8 years, 69 per cent were male, 49 per
cent were white. Cannabis use frequency within prior 12 months was daily in
13.7 per cent, occasional in 45.1 per cent, and never in 41.2 per cent.
There was no fibrosis in 27.5 per cent, mild fibrosis in 55.4 per cent and
moderate to severe fibrosis in 17.2 per cent of subjects.

Current daily cannabis use increased the odds of moderate to severe fibrosis
by nearly 7-fold. There was no association between current daily cannabis
use and mild fibrosis. A major limitation of the study is the method, since
only one examination was performed, which limits the ability to establish a
temporal relationship between cannabis use and fibrosis stage.

However, the study confirms an earlier French study of 2004, in which daily
cannabis use was also associated with an increased risk for liver fibrosis.
Authors conclude that "HCV-infected individuals should be counseled to
reduce or abstain from cannabis use."

(Source: Ishida JH, Peters MG, Jin C, Louie K, Tan V, Bacchetti P, Terrault
NA. Influence of cannabis use on severity of hepatitis C disease. Clin
Gastroenterol Hepatol 2008;6(1):69- 75)
john - 09 Mar 2008 15:30 GMT
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> craziness.
> Good luck, kill that dragon!

Hi Waterspider,
I wish i could still smoke pot.Doctor even recommed it as apposed to
other stuff.
Unlike the old days it makes me paranoid and hungry.lololol
john
dBo - 07 Mar 2008 21:37 GMT
Well best of luck to you with tx - is this the 24 week or 42 week tx
you are facing? I couldn't walk or bike that far prior to tx (haha!)
and months into it I was so anemic going up a flight of stairs
required three rest stops. Every case is different tho, so I will keep
you in my thoughts and prayers :)

Wishing you all the best and as few side effects as possible!
déjà vu déjà vu - 07 Mar 2008 23:29 GMT
> Well best of luck to you with tx - is this the 24 week or 42 week tx
> you are facing? I couldn't walk or bike that far prior to tx (haha!)
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> Wishing you all the best and as few side effects as possible!

48 weeks, if all goes well.

I'll exercise as much (slow) as I can.

Or stay home and relax as I start on Social Security in July.

Might work part time (or not).

I'm all alone on this (as usual), a happy hermit.

I guess it's my personal battle and hopeful victory.
dBo - 08 Mar 2008 13:39 GMT
Yes it truly is a personal battle. If you are a Happy Hermit then you
probably won't really care when the dustballs under the bed are the
size of basketballs, haha!

I worked full time up until the 10th month and tho it was a sit down
computer job it became very tough due to the brain for and
exhaustion...still I kept on keeping on until pneumonia took me out!
Yuck! So I ended up on short term disability for a couple of months.
Its a good thing that you are starting SS, and that you have the
option to work or not work.

Please remember to keep in touch. We are all here to bounce things off
of us. Doctors are great at what they do but they HAVEN"T BEEN THRU
IT. Its really easy for them to say "Oh no, that's not a side effect,
or has nothing to do with this etc etc" - its way more reassuring to
touch base with folks who have been thru it, and have experienced the
whole thing. There's a great helpful group of folks who hang out
here :)

Get that Sword Raised high and get ready for Battle, Death to the
Dragon!!
topcat - 08 Mar 2008 17:27 GMT
> Yes it truly is a personal battle. If you are a Happy Hermit then you
> probably won't really care when the dustballs under the bed are the
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> Get that Sword Raised high and get ready for Battle, Death to the
> Dragon!!

Hey DBO,  I was looking back at your earlier posts and it sounds like
you had a hell of a battle but are virus free 1year post tx.  How's
your energy level, compared to pre tx?  Glad it worked out well for
you, hope the same for the rest of us too!
TC
wallysgirl - 08 Mar 2008 20:50 GMT
> March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.
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> Jamffer

I am going in to week 7 this Monday...Yahoo only 65 more weeks to go!!
I can't say it's a party-but again I'm just staring  to sharpen my
sword!!
I say to you Good Luck and fight the fight NONE of us are alone..We
all have this site and people who really know what the hec we are
talking about.

Wallysgirl
déjà vu déjà vu - 08 Mar 2008 21:22 GMT
On Mar 7, 8:50 am, "déjà vu déjà vu" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Jamffer

I am going in to week 7 this Monday...Yahoo only 65 more weeks to go!!
I can't say it's a party-but again I'm just staring  to sharpen my
sword!!
I say to you Good Luck and fight the fight NONE of us are alone..We
all have this site and people who really know what the hec we are
talking about.

Wallysgirl

Are you responding?  A 72 weeker eh?  Is this your first round?  I'd like to
hear some more details.
Hang in there.
Jamffer
wallysgirl - 11 Mar 2008 01:08 GMT
> On Mar 7, 8:50 am, "déjà vu déjà vu" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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> Hang in there.
> Jamffer

Hey Jamffer,
Well I just got back from Philly today...Good News!!I I started with a
viral load of 2 million 930 thousand something and at 4 weeks had VL
tested and found out today  it is(drum roll please) 5,710.
This is actually my third time.I think it was back in 03 I tried 2 dif
ones can't remember what(pegintron-paegasys??)
but niether worked.In October of 07 I received a liver transplant and
things are looking good.Tonight (week 7) was my first full
dose(180mcg) of Pegasys.They are going to go ahead and put in for the
procrit because my counts are stating to slip..but that is part of the
ride!I have to say it hasn't been too bad..I know it's early so I'm
optomistic.I have some dry skin,headaches, life stuff.
I am also type 1.My last biopsy showed evolving cirrhosis.
Well,keep the faith and keep in touch!

Wallysgirl
déjà vu déjà vu - 08 Mar 2008 21:34 GMT
On Mar 7, 8:50 am, "déjà vu déjà vu" <jamf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Jamffer

I am going in to week 7 this Monday...Yahoo only 65 more weeks to go!!
I can't say it's a party-but again I'm just staring  to sharpen my
sword!!
I say to you Good Luck and fight the fight NONE of us are alone..We
all have this site and people who really know what the hec we are
talking about.

Wallysgirl
********
Oops, I just read your prior post about you getting treated for cancer and
getting an unexpected (prize) in the Crackerjack treatment.  Hep-C type 1
ouch.

The treatment should help keep your new liver healthy until the newer
treatments come online.

Of course it will be even better if the 72 week ordeal works.

Keep us posted regardless.

Thanks for sharing.  Hang in there.
Jamffer
Kozure Ookami - 10 Mar 2008 05:13 GMT
>March 25th I am beginning the attack for the mini dragon war.

>I walk or ride bike 8 miles per day, hope to continue but time will tell.
>
>Jamffer

Yep, you're right there.  I was running 3-6 miles 4 times a week prior
to starting.  I was slowing down within 2 weeks and after 4 weeks
running was out of the question.  Anemia and running don't go together
well.  However, I never had a problem going on long walks which I did
often on treatment and cycling at an easy pace was not a problem.  I
was huffing and puffing a bit going up flights of stairs though.  I
really think trying to stay active helps mitigate some of the
psychological things that kick in as treatment progesses.  Hopefully,
you will have a mild treatment and have only the anemia to contend
with.  

Don
 
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