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What makes treatment so difficult?

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Hacienda de Ville - 15 Oct 2007 23:35 GMT
I have read that treatment is very difficult, but what makes it so?
Also, how many weeks must one be on before the doctor knows if it is
working or not?

Thanks.
greyhackles - 15 Oct 2007 23:55 GMT
>I have read that treatment is very difficult, but what makes it so?

The treatment drugs *can* have significant side effects. Among the rather long
list of potential issues are reduction in red and/or white blood cells and/or
platelets that leave the patient breathless and/or prone to infection and/or
prone to spontaneous bleeding, respectively. And that's just the blood - it
*can* also cause the immune system to attack various organs, it can cause
various skin issues ranging from trivial to out-of-control. And it sure can
mess with one's hair ;-)

>Also, how many weeks must one be on before the doctor knows if it is
>working or not?

Good question. "Working" isn't a binary proposition - some folks have what is
called a "super-response" to treatment and will exhibit profound loss of
virions within mere days of initiating therapy, and within a few weeks have
cleared the virus from the blood stream to the point that even the most
sensitive tests can no longer detect it. Near the other end of the spectrum
are the so-called "slow responders", where the viral load drops only an order
of magnitude or two after many weeks on the typical treatment regimen, and
continues to drop through therapy until finally testing clear around 24 weeks
in to the treatment.

Also, when the determination can be made is dependent on how the doctor is
monitoring progress. The typical monitoring scheme used today is to test just
before starting therapy, then at 12 weeks. If the 12 week test is "clear", the
doctor may not order any further tests until the End Of Treatment test; otoh,
if the 12 week test still shows virions another test is performed at 24 weeks.
What happens next is dependent on genotype.

Some doctors will add a viral load test at 4 weeks into treatment, but that's
not the common case (and patients should request this test anyway, imo!)

Cheers - and hth...

/greyhackles
TX-012 - 16 Oct 2007 01:20 GMT
> I have read that treatment is very difficult, but what makes it so?
> Also, how many weeks must one be on before the doctor knows if it is
> working or not?
>
> Thanks.

I started tx on 09/28. I have had plenty of days in the past when I've
felt as tired as I do today, but never have I felt so consistently
exhausted for so long. If I were able to spend this year under general
anesthesia, or confined to bed, no worries, but to go to work to
support myself while feeling this drained---for an entire year---will
be...difficult...

Soon I may discover that I already have anemia...or perhaps I don't,
perhaps my body simply responds this way for reasons unknowable and
untreatable...
Guy - 16 Oct 2007 17:40 GMT
> I started tx on 09/28. I have had plenty of days in the past when I've
> felt as tired as I do today, but never have I felt so consistently
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> perhaps my body simply responds this way for reasons unknowable and
> untreatable...

Have your hemoglobin count checked, if it is below 11 deciliters you
may be
able to go on Procrit which will give you some of your energy back.
My hemoglobin count is 12 so I have been dragging my sorry a.s in to
work
for 9 months, it's been tough. There have been days I simply could not
work,
too dizzy to drive and add fatigue and nausea to that and I just
couldn't do it.
I went on "Intermittent FMLA " and that has allowed me to keep my job,
I have been
sacrificing financially because I do not get paid for those days but
hopefully it will work
itself out, always does.
For me at least, the sides were worse in the beginning, there is a
light at the end of the tunnel.
Another thing I found difficult was controlling my rage.
But you just started, hang in there and check this group often , there
are some very helpful people here.
Oh and one more thing................ Good Luck :-)
Normin - 16 Oct 2007 18:14 GMT
>> I started tx on 09/28. I have had plenty of days in the past
>> when I've
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> are some very helpful people here.
> Oh and one more thing................ Good Luck :-)

re: the dizziness thing... have you tried drinking lots of water
when you start feeling that way?  I found that the dizziness
meant I was getting dehydrated, and slamming down a 16-20 oz
water helped every time.  Helped with the nausea a bit too, for
me.

I know I sound like a broken record, but drinking huge amounts of
water (half of my body weight in ounces of water every day)
really helped me a LOT thru tx..... I think it even helped with
the dry itchy skin thing.  a little :)

Sara
Guy - 16 Oct 2007 19:51 GMT
> >> I started tx on 09/28. I have had plenty of days in the past
> >> when I've
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>
> Sara

Sara,

I drink constantly at work and home, water and green tea.
TX-012 - 16 Oct 2007 20:31 GMT
> > I started tx on 09/28. I have had plenty of days in the past when I've
> > felt as tired as I do today, but never have I felt so consistently
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> are some very helpful people here.
> Oh and one more thing................ Good Luck :-)

Thank you for the tips/kind words;)
greyhackles - 19 Oct 2007 04:50 GMT
>> I started tx on 09/28. I have had plenty of days in the past when I've
>> felt as tired as I do today, but never have I felt so consistently
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>are some very helpful people here.
>Oh and one more thing................ Good Luck :-)

12 g/dl isn't all that low.
Have you had your thyroid function checked lately?
Got TSH?

/greyhackles
 
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