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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / August 2007More on 'Roids
So, not so long ago, I got some good advice about hemorrhoids. Still got a question about what makes them swell and go back down. For two weeks I've been taking the same drugs but I did just start Epogen two weeks ago. Also my diet hasn't changed. The 'roids flared up about 2 days after the first Epogen, stayed swelled for about 4 days then went done for about 3 days and are in the process of reswelling. Could it be the Epogen? I had no problems with them before that... > So, not so long ago, I got some good advice about hemorrhoids. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Could it be the Epogen? I had no problems with them before that... Your hemorrhoids are not going to get better unless you have an operation to remove them. I had the operation and it really isn't all that bad. The difference a month after the operation will make you feel like a new person. That said, if you're on treatment, wait until treatment is over.  SignatureCody To email me, remove shoes first > Your hemorrhoids are not going to get better unless you have an > operation to remove them. O.K., I can believe that but I'm still wanting to understand the mechanism of swelling and subsidence of swelling. My latest clue is in the direction of portal hypertension. Anyone hip to that? Thing is I'm taking Lisinopril for high blood pressure... Can anything about Tx make the blood pressure rise inspite of BP meds? >> Your hemorrhoids are not going to get better unless you have an >> operation to remove them. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Can anything about Tx make the blood pressure rise inspite of BP meds? Jeeze, I don't think so. Between the anemia, dehydration and lack of energy, I'd expect BP to head for the basement, if anything. Otoh, stress could account for it, and I suppose the whole tx thing is mighty stressful in the scheme of things. fwiw, I have incipient 'rhoids - rarely a problem but they're there, a blessing of making it to 50-something ;-) Looking back through my tx log I never noted any particular problem, before or during the 35 weeks on Procrit. That doesn't rule out a relationship, of course, it's just one random datapoint. No doubt you should bring this up with your treatment physician/NP/whomever. I'd certainly want to review your bloodwork - I'm wondering if low platelets might aggravate the 'rhoids, seems likely - how's your platelet count? One thing I do know for certain, dehydration is bad for 'rhoids. Drink more than you want, it might help ;-) You're hanging in there, in spite of it all. Keep it up! Kick that dragon's arse! Cheers /greyhackles > I'm wondering if low platelets > might aggravate the 'rhoids, seems likely - how's your platelet count? > You're hanging in there, in spite of it all. > Keep it up! Kick that dragon's arse! Platelets are fine. Yeah, hanging in in spite; and, that's so Weird I can't even explain why... ~ Alex Hey Alex I have chronic dysystolic HBP. (higher second number than should be) It is controlled by Altace, Hydrochlorothorazide, and Adalat. I had no issues with HBP during or after tx. Until I started smoking again. Heh. quit now though today. eeeeee! I thought it would control my manic thing, perhaps it does, but I doubt it. Just makes me more compulsive in that state of mind. hope this helps, you don't need fear working on ya when your kicking dragon's butt! cactus jammies -------------------------------- >> I'm wondering if low platelets >> might aggravate the 'rhoids, seems likely - how's your platelet count? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ~ Alex On Aug 5, 3:22 pm, "Cactus Jammies" <cactusjamm...@retinal.circus.orb> wrote: > hope this helps, you don't need fear working on ya when your kicking > dragon's butt! > > cactus jammies -------------------------------- Thanks. No fear, actually, just pain that's wearing me rather thin... ~ Alex >> On Aug 3, 10:00 am, amzolt <amz...@gmail.com> wrote:Could it be the Epogen? I had no problems with them before that... << Think of your roid like a cartoon garden hose .. when the cartoon character steps on the garden hose you get a very large balloon like expression IN the garden hose. The epogen tries to force this thickened blood through and it balloons. Epogen causes increased red blood cell production therefore increased viscosity / thickness of the blood. Pretty simple. Thin the blood. That is why smoking causes an increase .. smoking causes polycythemia .. increased red blood cell production which in its' natural course causes thickened blood / hyperviscosity. Since bloodletting IS being shown to be of use in hepatitis .. THAT may be one method to thin the blood .. Hold it .. you are taking .. epo .. to MAKE red blood cells .. Jeez .. I think you .. have to buy some .. cream. You could also fix yourself a nice high fat meal and see if you have .. symptoms .. ? Would kinda confirm .. somewhat .. since a single high fat meal has been shown to increase viscosity of the blood. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On Aug 6, 1:01 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > >> On Aug 3, 10:00 am, amzolt <amz...@gmail.com> wrote:Could it be the Epogen? I had no problems with them before that... << > You could also fix yourself a nice high fat meal and see if you > have .. symptoms .. ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Who loves ya. > Tom Fascinating since I'm currently craving fat! >So, not so long ago, I got some good advice about hemorrhoids. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Could it be the Epogen? I had no problems with them before that... Have your bowel movements changed? Do you have any constipation or straining? Harder stool due to dehydration. Epogen does have its share of sides diarrhea and constipation among them. Could be. I have occasional hemorrhoid problems myself but it has been over 6 months since I have noticed anything. I know that straining has brought them on in the past but sometimes flare-ups were a mystery to me. I think the solutions my doctor recommended included sitting in lukewarm water and OTC ointments like Preparation-H. 'Rhoids sure can be a pain in the a.s. Don > Have your bowel movements changed? \ yes, more of them per day and much looser. Do you have any constipation or > straining? Nope Harder stool due to dehydration. Nope Epogen does have its > share of sides diarrhea and constipation among them. > Don The cream helps some and so does the new "suck-it-up-or-die" attitude I'm growing... >> Have your bowel movements changed? \ > yes, more of them per day and much looser. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The cream helps some and so does the new "suck-it-up-or-die" attitude > I'm growing... I asked my surgeon why people get rhoids. It's not diarrhea, constipation or sitting a lot. He said the collective opinion of the surgeons he knows is that rhoids started when humankind started walking on two feet instead of four. No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after the operation, it's like I never had them and I do a lot of walking ;-) SignatureCody To email me, remove shoes first >No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the >point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after >the operation, it's like I never had them and I do a lot of walking ;-) I think that only applies if you have a bad case of hemorrhoids. Mine were pretty minor and often I didn't know I had them until I noticed blood in the water. They sometimes burned. But mine have gotten better. Haven't noticed them in a long time. >> No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the >> point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > blood in the water. They sometimes burned. But mine have gotten > better. Haven't noticed them in a long time. How old are you? SignatureAlias To email me, remove shoes >>> No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the >>> point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >How old are you? I'll be 50 in October. My first encounter with 'rhoids was when I was about 23. >>>> No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the >>>> point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'll be 50 in October. My first encounter with 'rhoids was when I was > about 23. I guess your case isn't nearly as serious as mine was. SignatureCody To email me, remove shoes first > No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the > point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after > the operation, it's like I never had them and I do a lot of walking ;-) Ever hear about the "fixative" solution--injecting them with something that deflates them and turns them to scar tissue? ~ Alex >> No matter what you do, short of surgery, it will get worse. I got to the >> point where I couldn't walk two blocks without sitting down. Now, after [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ~ Alex Yeah, but the only true way to get rid of them is to operate. The operation isn't nearly as bad as treatment. SignatureCody To email me, remove shoes first >> Have your bowel movements changed? \ >yes, more of them per day and much looser. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >The cream helps some and so does the new "suck-it-up-or-die" attitude >I'm growing... The more frequent loose stools was definately a factor for me when my hemorrhoids were acting up. Maybe adding some fiber or something can help. The attitude is very important too. But you have a long road ahead of you and anything you can do to ease things are good because it can always get worse. Don But you have a long road > ahead of you and anything you can do to ease things are good because > it can always get worse. > Don Yep, I'm only in the 8th day of my third month. Luckily (and, hopefully it'll last...) the cream I'm using (constantly) is keep the pain within the "manageable" range. 'Course, Tx to me, so far, is learning to get used to things I don't like... ~ Alex |
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