My doctor says that my pcr levels are negative and that i had no
traces of the heps virus in my system or something like that and even
though i haven't had any treatment he said that some times the body
will heal itself of the hep C virus. Does anyone know if this is true
or ever heard of this happening. I feel like this is very good news,
but am worried that maybe he just doesn't know what he's talking about
and need to seek a second opinion
thanx
Double D
anonymousone - 06 Apr 2007 06:50 GMT
> My doctor says that my pcr levels are negative and that i had no
> traces of the heps virus in my system or something like that and even
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> thanx
> Double D
>From what Ive read the about 10% of people spontaneoulsy clear the
virus, usually shortly after infection.
If it was me, I would do another test in 3-6 months to be sure.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 06 Apr 2007 15:18 GMT
In approximately 15% of cases where a person is infected with the hepc
virus, the person's immune system will eradicate the virus during the
first 6 months of infection (acute phase). The other 85% will go on to
become chronically infected, it's quite rare for a person to clear the
virus without immunotherapy if they've had a viral load for more than
six months.
Probably wouldn't hurt to have another pcr, sooner rather than later.
The cure rate for treating hepc when it's in its acute phase (<6 months)
is a whole lot better than if it becomes chronic.
How long do you think you've had the virus?
elmo
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Double D - 09 Apr 2007 17:49 GMT
On Apr 6, 9:18 am, elmoemer...@webtv.net wrote:
> In approximately 15% of cases where a person is infected with the hepc
> virus, the person's immune system will eradicate the virus during the
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>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
i first tested positive for it in 2002 but no one ever informed me of
the results till 2005 and they did the pcr levels 2 months ago but i
just found out what it ment
Paul - 09 Apr 2007 19:30 GMT
On 9 Apr 2007 09:49:04 -0700, "Double D" <davi_dawn@juno.com>, in
message ID <1176137344.453745.313600@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, in
the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
>i first tested positive for it in 2002 but no one ever informed me of
>the results till 2005 and they did the pcr levels 2 months ago but i
>just found out what it ment
Sounds like the level of "care" that we've come to expect where I live
too. Were you easily contactable after the initial test (i.e. not
moved house etc)? If you were easy to contact and they did not do so,
they sound like they are on a par with the half brained fuckwits
around my way.
Double D - 10 Apr 2007 00:05 GMT
> On 9 Apr 2007 09:49:04 -0700, "Double D" <davi_d...@juno.com>, in
> message ID <1176137344.453745.313...@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> they sound like they are on a par with the half brained fuckwits
> around my way.
there were numorous times that i could have been told about the
results of the test I was admitted to the hospital that did the
testing atleast 12 times since 2002. The only reason i found out to
begin with in 2005 was because i was going to have another surgery and
the preop nurse asked me what i was doing to treat my hepatitis and i
said i don't have hepatitis. She ended up feeling bad because she had
thought i already knew and she was the one that had to give me the
news.
Paul - 10 Apr 2007 12:29 GMT
On 9 Apr 2007 16:05:16 -0700, "Double D" <davi_dawn@juno.com>, in
message ID <1176157258.445015.63910@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, in
the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
>there were numorous times that i could have been told about the
>results of the test I was admitted to the hospital that did the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>thought i already knew and she was the one that had to give me the
>news.
Bloody hell!
What a way to find out.
Once in a while I hear about incompetence levels that make my blood
boil.
This is one of them.
Paul - 06 Apr 2007 15:35 GMT
On 5 Apr 2007 22:01:53 -0700, "Double D" <davi_dawn@juno.com>, in
message ID <1175835713.853881.87070@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, in
the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
>My doctor says that my pcr levels are negative and that i had no
>traces of the heps virus in my system or something like that and even
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>thanx
>Double D
Apparently about 20% of people who come into contact with HCV clear it
without doing any tx. This was supposed to only happen within the
first 6 months of contacting the virus. However, I believe that there
have been cases of people clearing it naturally much later than that
and this is not as uncommon as first thought. You will need to verify
that last bit though as I am unclear as to the exact circumstances. In
any case, if you have been exposed to HCV, a blood test once in a
while to make sure won't hurt.
Cactus Jammies - 06 Apr 2007 18:15 GMT
I must remember to play the Lucky Double Diamond slot machines next time I
am in a casino!
cactus jammies ==========================
> My doctor says that my pcr levels are negative and that i had no
> traces of the heps virus in my system or something like that and even
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> thanx
> Double D
Waterspider - 06 Apr 2007 19:24 GMT
> My doctor says that my pcr levels are negative and that i had no
> traces of the heps virus in my system or something like that and even
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> thanx
> Double D
If the immune system is successful in erradicating the HCV, it will happen
in the first six months of infection. This is the case with 15-20% of cases
reported, but... one has to wonder if it might not be higher because such a
small number of people are diagnosed so quickly.
However, even if your immune system "cured" your hep c, the PCR should have
shown antibodies to the virus.
Yes, get that second opinion or, at the very least, a second test from the
first doctor.
I hope that you are indeed undetectable, and I'm sure you do too, but it's
best to be absolutely certain. Good luck!
Thomas Wagner - 06 Apr 2007 21:31 GMT
>However, even if your immune system "cured" your hep c, the PCR should have
>shown antibodies to the virus.
Ummm... a PCR test doesn't show antibodies, only virus RNA. To look for
antibodies, you need the standard antibody test (I believe it's called
EIA).
Thomas

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Waterspider - 07 Apr 2007 04:57 GMT
>>However, even if your immune system "cured" your hep c, the PCR should
>>have
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> antibodies, you need the standard antibody test (I believe it's called
> EIA).
I stand corrected.
Thanks, Thomas, I'm glad you're out there to keep us on our toes <g>.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Apr 2007 15:35 GMT
Re: Pcr levels
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Apr 6, 2007, 8:57pm (CDT-2)
From: nospam@all.com (Waterspider)
"Thomas Wagner" <tomw@capecod.com> wrote in message
news:7bbd13911pkeqi28pvtae0bvuk7je55ub7@4ax.com...
However, even if your immune system "cured" your hep c, the PCR should
have
shown antibodies to the virus.
Ummm... a PCR test doesn't show antibodies, only virus RNA. To look for
antibodies, you need the standard antibody test (I believe it's called
EIA).
//////////
I stand corrected.
Thanks, Thomas, I'm glad you're out there to keep us on our toes <g>.
//////////
Sit down! I can't see the show! :-)
elmo
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Waterspider - 07 Apr 2007 20:04 GMT
> Re: Pcr levels
>
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> Sit down! I can't see the show! :-)
> elmo
Jeez, chill! If ya hadn't been so loaded the first time round you'd remember
it. Well, at least the good parts. <g>
greyhackles - 10 Apr 2007 03:19 GMT
>My doctor says that my pcr levels are negative and that i had no
>traces of the heps virus in my system or something like that and even
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>thanx
>Double D
As has been noted, some folks draw the lucky number in the genetic lottery and
beat the virus unaided.
That fact ought to reinforce the concept of "cure" for those who beat the
virus with a little help from the Combo Brothers...
Cheers
/greyhackles