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golfgirl - 17 Mar 2007 01:49 GMT Hello Everyone!!!!!
Boy am i stressing, I am a 43 year old male who finished treatment a month ago. I have type 2b and did the interferon/ribo treatment. I am having a huge issue with my hair. Didn't really seem to loose much on treatment, but now it seems like it is really thinning out. I am noticing some bald spots all of a sudden, also and the texture is also changing. My questions to the group are this....
Why is my hair falling out now and how long can I expect this to continue for after treatment???? And secondly, is their a good chance that it will grow back????
Please help
greyhackles - 17 Mar 2007 02:14 GMT >Hello Everyone!!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Please help Ok, slow down, take a few deeeeep breaths - and don't forget to exhale ;-)
You are/were genotype 2, so you did 24 weeks of therapy, yes? Well, son, 24 weeks is just about when the hair thinning really gets a goin'.
For a g1 or g4, 24 weeks is merely mid course, of course, and those of us who were saddled with one of those types were conditioned to experience such things while in the depths of treatment. And frankly, that's usually a trivial problem in that context.
But for you lucky g2s and g3s, well, heck, you're *done* with treatment - and so you can't understand why your hair is all f.cked up 'cuz you're not on drugs anymore!
ahahahahahahahahahaha!
Trust me, in another six months or so it'll all go back to whatever it would have looked like in late 2007 if you hadn't been on therapy at all.
Of course, that means if you were genetically fated to grow a bald spot by early 2007, well, it's here ;-)
But the rest of it will go back to "normal". Have faith :-)
Cheers
/greyhackles (been there, done that. yeah, it's weird stuff, but it goes away)
Terry - 17 Mar 2007 03:48 GMT >Hello Everyone!!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Please help I am not posting this to scare you. You are seeing a doctor and if you do have any liver problems I am sure they would find them in the tests you have done. I am just kind of thinking out loud.
The only reason I mention it is that hair loss is one sign of advanced cirrhosis.
At least 5 years before I found out I had cirrhosis, I experienced alopecia. I was also going to collage at the time. I had been out of high school over 15 years so my dermatologist said stress could have been the cause of my hair loss. I really wonder now if it could have been an early warning sign that I had liver problems.
My hair came out in a very strange way. It would start as a bald spot in a small circle and the circle would get bigger. The circles got so big that the entire area was bald. I went bald across the back of my head and spots on the top of my head. I also had small circles in my beard. I looked like I had the mange. I had to ware a wig for over a year.
The dermatologist told me I had alopicia. That is a very fancy word for "hair loss" She said there was a chance that it would not grow back or if it did grow back it could be gray.
Well all the hair did come back, and it was normal color. I still have more than my share of hair in the tub but my hair is full.
That is about it. :)
Waterspider - 17 Mar 2007 04:46 GMT >>Hello Everyone!!!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The only reason I mention it is that hair loss is one sign of advanced > cirrhosis. But it's highly unlikely that it would occur without other, more serious symptoms. Besides, tx does not advance liver disease, it halts or reverses it. Golfgirl, give yourself a couple of months for your hair to recover and start growing back to normal. You're fine. Stop stressing... that can cause hair loss <grin>
dBo - 17 Mar 2007 14:57 GMT I'd say Greyhackles' take on "timing" sounds about right. I completed 48 weeks in late November (four months post tx now) and my hair did not start falling out right away, it took a while. I have very long hair, and prior to treatment a rubber band only went around my ponytail twice. Now it goes around the ponytail 6 times, so that gives you an idea how much hair I started with and how much I lost.
In the months since tx ended, the hair loss did NOT stop right away, but continued. Once the hair loss began in earnest, "It was normal" for me to run a brush thru my hair, hold it up to look and there would be something I'm guessing like 30 - 40 long hairs flying in the wind. My hair came right out from the roots. No doubt there was breakage as well, but mostly I noticed the long, full length hairs :( Many people seem to cut hair and go short for the duration of tx but I chose to keep it long, because short is MORE work for me (curly hair - not a pretty sight upon arising in the morning) Leaving it long allowed me to keep it in ponytail, much less work and anything that was less effort for me was A-OK.
The good news - just this past week, I was brushing my hair and upon lifting my bangs, realized that new hair is growing in finally! Yeah! If I lift my bangs, I can see a thin fringe of new down along the hairline, about half an inch long. But I don't think it fell out in "patches" tho there were a few times when, trying to comb it out after washing, that there were little "clumps" that pulled right out.
Texture change seems to be a common complaint - ie from thick and curley to thin and wispy, but people seem to agree that when it grows back, for most folks, it grows back normally. Now if only my bones and muscles would quit aching constantly, I'd really be on my way ;)
< May none of my offspring call or email today telling me it is 80 degrees where they live today!.... >
Thip - 17 Mar 2007 14:59 GMT You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart nearby, the store brand is just as good.
If it continues past the next few months or becomes even worse, it *could* be something called "alopecia areata." It appears to be triggered by severe stress. That's unlikely in your case but something to keep in mind.
> Hello Everyone!!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Please help golfgirl - 18 Mar 2007 02:27 GMT > You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You > might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart nearby, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY HAIR. I HAD A TRANSPLANT WHEN I WAS 31, NOW I AM 43 AND THAT IS WHY I AM STRESSING SO MUCH. IF I START LOOSING MY HAIR NOW, WILL IT COME BACK SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM??? THIS IS TOTALLY FREAKING ME OUT. I AM OBSESSED WITH IT TO BE HONEST, I CAN SEE MY HAIR THINNING BY THE DAY AND WONDER IF IT IS EVER GONNA STOP...has anyone else experienced this also????
Waterspider - 18 Mar 2007 04:59 GMT >> You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You >> might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > HAIR THINNING BY THE DAY AND WONDER IF IT IS EVER GONNA STOP...has > anyone else experienced this also???? CALM DOWN!!!! And unlock your CAPS key, it makes you sound even more hysterical. You "forgot to mention" that you have always had a problem... well, there's your answer now, isn't it? You thanked us all for the responses and information, but you're still panicking about your freakin' hair so you obviously either don't believe us or you're happier in a state of high anxiety about your freakin' hair. Ask your family doctor about it, ask your hairdresser or, better yet, see a counsellor. Your hair isn't the problem, your obsession with it is. This newsgroup is all about hep c. You completed treatment, congratulations, and we're all interested in talking about that, but I don't think anyone give's a rat's a.s about their own hair, never mind yours.
golfgirl - 18 Mar 2007 13:30 GMT > >> You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You > >> might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thank you for reminding me that this news group is all about hepatitis C, and just to let you know your insenitity to this issue is not appreciated. Hair loss is a side effect of the treatment and I am just looking to see what others have to say. Hair may not be important to you, but it sure is to me and it may be to many others here also. So in the future it would be appreciated if you kept your negative remarks to yourself and let the rest of us talk about issues that we have!!!!
tom - 18 Mar 2007 15:01 GMT > > "golfgirl" <issariot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message <snip>
So in the future it would be appreciated if you kept your
> negative remarks to yourself and let the rest of us talk about issues > that we have!!!! Me thinks I smell a troll.............. <plonk>
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 18 Mar 2007 15:31 GMT Re: Hair Loss Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 2:01pm (CDT+5) From: j@a.com (tom) "golfgirl" <issariotis2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1174221030.052428.321320@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Mar 17, 11:59 pm, "Waterspider" <nos...@all.com> wrote: "golfgirl" <issariot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message <snip> So in the future it would be appreciated if you kept your negative remarks to yourself and let the rest of us talk about issues that we have!!!! Me thinks I smell a troll.............. <plonk> ////// <sniff sniff> campo turds?
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 18 Mar 2007 15:29 GMT Re: Hair Loss Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 8:59pm (CDT-2) From: nospam@all.com (Waterspider) "golfgirl" <issariotis2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1174181256.070677.209120@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... On Mar 17, 9:59 am, "Thip" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart nearby, the store brand is just as good. If it continues past the next few months or becomes even worse, it *could* be something called "alopecia areata." It appears to be triggered by severe stress. That's unlikely in your case but something to keep in mind. "golfgirl" <issariot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1174092553.808062.217250@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... Hello Everyone!!!!! Boy am i stressing, I am a 43 year old male who finished treatment a month ago. I have type 2b and did the interferon/ribo treatment. I am having a huge issue with my hair. Didn't really seem to loose much on treatment, but now it seems like it is really thinning out. I am noticing some bald spots all of a sudden, also and the texture is also changing. My questions to the group are this.... Why is my hair falling out now and how long can I expect this to continue for after treatment???? And secondly, is their a good chance that it will grow back???? Please help- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY HAIR. I HAD A TRANSPLANT WHEN I WAS 31, NOW I AM 43 AND THAT IS WHY I AM STRESSING SO MUCH. IF I START LOOSING MY HAIR NOW, WILL IT COME BACK SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM??? THIS IS TOTALLY FREAKING ME OUT. I AM OBSESSED WITH IT TO BE HONEST, I CAN SEE MY HAIR THINNING BY THE DAY AND WONDER IF IT IS EVER GONNA STOP...has anyone else experienced this also???? CALM DOWN!!!! And unlock your CAPS key, it makes you sound even more hysterical. You "forgot to mention" that you have always had a problem... well, there's your answer now, isn't it? You thanked us all for the responses and information, but you're still panicking about your freakin' hair so you obviously either don't believe us or you're happier in a state of high anxiety about your freakin' hair. Ask your family doctor about it, ask your hairdresser or, better yet, see a counsellor. Your hair isn't the problem, your obsession with it is. This newsgroup is all about hep c. You completed treatment, congratulations, and we're all interested in talking about that, but I don't think anyone give's a rat's a.s about their own hair, never mind yours. /////////////// ahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
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Dwight - 18 Mar 2007 18:15 GMT > > Re: Hair Loss [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Elmo, I cared about mine until it all fell out and left me looking like Telly Sevalis (sp) when I was only 43 at the end of my 1st round of tx. Oh wait, I cut it off for the summer and then it grew back. Never mind.
:) Of course it got thin again during the second round of tx, but at the age of 50, in my family, it isn't unusual to have thinning hair, or in a more politically correct way, follicly challenged.
Dwight
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 20 Mar 2007 13:41 GMT Re: Hair Loss Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 5:15pm (CDT+5) From: me@notreal.net (Dwight) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: Hair Loss Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 8:59pm (CDT-2) From: nospam@all.com (Waterspider) "golfgirl" <issariotis2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1174181256.070677.209120@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... On Mar 17, 9:59 am, "Thip" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart nearby, the store brand is just as good. If it continues past the next few months or becomes even worse, it *could* be something called "alopecia areata." It appears to be triggered by severe stress. That's unlikely in your case but something to keep in mind. "golfgirl" <issariot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1174092553.808062.217250@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... Hello Everyone!!!!! Boy am i stressing, I am a 43 year old male who finished treatment a month ago. I have type 2b and did the interferon/ribo treatment. I am having a huge issue with my hair. Didn't really seem to loose much on treatment, but now it seems like it is really thinning out. I am noticing some bald spots all of a sudden, also and the texture is also changing. My questions to the group are this.... Why is my hair falling out now and how long can I expect this to continue for after treatment???? And secondly, is their a good chance that it will grow back???? Please help- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY HAIR. I HAD A TRANSPLANT WHEN I WAS 31, NOW I AM 43 AND THAT IS WHY I AM STRESSING SO MUCH. IF I START LOOSING MY HAIR NOW, WILL IT COME BACK SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM??? THIS IS TOTALLY FREAKING ME OUT. I AM OBSESSED WITH IT TO BE HONEST, I CAN SEE MY HAIR THINNING BY THE DAY AND WONDER IF IT IS EVER GONNA STOP...has anyone else experienced this also???? CALM DOWN!!!! And unlock your CAPS key, it makes you sound even more hysterical. You "forgot to mention" that you have always had a problem... well, there's your answer now, isn't it? You thanked us all for the responses and information, but you're still panicking about your freakin' hair so you obviously either don't believe us or you're happier in a state of high anxiety about your freakin' hair. Ask your family doctor about it, ask your hairdresser or, better yet, see a counsellor. Your hair isn't the problem, your obsession with it is. This newsgroup is all about hep c. You completed treatment, congratulations, and we're all interested in talking about that, but I don't think anyone give's a rat's a.s about their own hair, never mind yours. /////////////// ahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Elmo, I cared about mine until it all fell out and left me looking like Telly Sevalis (sp) when I was only 43 at the end of my 1st round of tx. Oh wait, I cut it off for the summer and then it grew back. Never mind.
:) Of course it got thin again during the second round of tx, but at the age of 50, in my family, it isn't unusual to have thinning hair, or in a more politically correct way, follicly challenged. Dwight //////////// I kept my head shaved for my second round of tx. Some little kid at the grocery store asked me if I was 'Mr Clean'. :-) elmo
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 18 Mar 2007 15:27 GMT Re: Hair Loss Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 6:27pm (CDT-2) From: issariotis2@hotmail.com (golfgirl) On Mar 17, 9:59 am, "Thip" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: You'll probably be fine. I did use Rogaine and I think it helped. You might want to try it. If you live in the States and have a Wal-Mart nearby, the store brand is just as good. If it continues past the next few months or becomes even worse, it *could* be something called "alopecia areata." It appears to be triggered by severe stress. That's unlikely in your case but something to keep in mind. "golfgirl" <issariot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1174092553.808062.217250@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... Hello Everyone!!!!! Boy am i stressing, I am a 43 year old male who finished treatment a month ago. I have type 2b and did the interferon/ribo treatment. I am having a huge issue with my hair. Didn't really seem to loose much on treatment, but now it seems like it is really thinning out. I am noticing some bald spots all of a sudden, also and the texture is also changing. My questions to the group are this.... Why is my hair falling out now and how long can I expect this to continue for after treatment???? And secondly, is their a good chance that it will grow back???? Please help- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY HAIR. I HAD A TRANSPLANT WHEN I WAS 31, NOW I AM 43 AND THAT IS WHY I AM STRESSING SO MUCH. IF I START LOOSING MY HAIR NOW, WILL IT COME BACK SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM??? THIS IS TOTALLY FREAKING ME OUT. I AM OBSESSED WITH IT TO BE HONEST, I CAN SEE MY HAIR THINNING BY THE DAY AND WONDER IF IT IS EVER GONNA STOP...has anyone else experienced this also???? //////////// Shucks! There's a chance your hair will keep thinning til it all falls out. I recommend one of those golf hats with a fuzzy dingle-ball on top. You'll be the hit of the clubhouse. Elmo McGregor
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Thip - 19 Mar 2007 23:43 GMT > WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE > THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > HAIR THINNING BY THE DAY AND WONDER IF IT IS EVER GONNA STOP...has > anyone else experienced this also???? Turn off your caps lock. I always hated to be yelled at.
Your hair will probably grow back but only your doctor can say if the transplanted hair will grow back. Meanwhile, do what I did when I developed alopecia--shave your head. It's awesome in the summer.
greyhackles - 19 Mar 2007 23:59 GMT >> WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE >> THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >transplanted hair will grow back. Meanwhile, do what I did when I developed >alopecia--shave your head. It's awesome in the summer. Ahh...light dawns over Marblehead....he had a fricken *hair* transplant!
/greyhackles (it's ok to be s l o w , ain't it? ;-)
Thip - 20 Mar 2007 02:07 GMT >>Turn off your caps lock. I always hated to be yelled at. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > /greyhackles (it's ok to be s l o w , ain't it? ;-) One thing you ain't and that's slow, greyhackles, ;-)
Terry - 20 Mar 2007 20:37 GMT >> WOW!!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES, I REALLY DO APPRECATE >> THE INFORMATION. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >transplanted hair will grow back. Meanwhile, do what I did when I developed >alopecia--shave your head. It's awesome in the summer. Did the doctors tell you that your alopecia was due to treatment, cirrhosis, stress or what?
Thip - 21 Mar 2007 00:52 GMT > Did the doctors tell you that your alopecia was due to treatment, > cirrhosis, stress or what? It happened a few years before I was dx'd with HCV. I was going through a period of extremely severe, prolonged, nonstop stress. To give you an idea just how severe, about in the middle of it my friend's husband (they were both teachers) took the whole family on vacation to the beach. I don't know what-all transpired, but he ended up pulling out a gun and she realized he intended to slaughter them all. She got the 3 kids out before he killed her and then himself.
It was not a good year at all.
Terry - 21 Mar 2007 02:25 GMT >> Did the doctors tell you that your alopecia was due to treatment, >> cirrhosis, stress or what? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >It was not a good year at all. I hope that guy is in jail or at least in a mental ward.
greyhackles - 21 Mar 2007 02:37 GMT >>> Did the doctors tell you that your alopecia was due to treatment, >>> cirrhosis, stress or what? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I hope that guy is in jail or at least in a mental ward. So.....do they jail corpses where you live?
/greyhackles
Cactus Jammies - 21 Mar 2007 02:45 GMT didn't catch ya napping this time, did they Grey? (heh heh heh)
cj ========== "greyhackles" <greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote Terry wrote previously, to Thipper, (originally)
>>>She got the 3 kids out before he killed her >>>and then himself. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >>I hope that guy is in jail or at least in a mental ward. (terry)
> ========= > So.....do they jail corpses where you live? > > /greyhackles greyhackles - 21 Mar 2007 03:00 GMT >"greyhackles" <greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote >Terry wrote previously, to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >cj ========== That was a slower pitch, I think ;-)
/greyhackles
Terry - 21 Mar 2007 02:55 GMT > >>> Did the doctors tell you that your alopecia was due to treatment, > >>> cirrhosis, stress or what? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > /greyhackles- I had to re read that. The first time I read it, I thought it said she got out "before" he killed them all.
Brain fart. Too many meds. :)
Thip - 22 Mar 2007 01:19 GMT > I had to re read that. The first time I read it, I thought it said > she got out "before" he killed them all. > > Brain fart. Too many meds. :) Thank heavens I'm not the only one with brain farts.....except I can't blame any meds.
Terry - 22 Mar 2007 01:35 GMT >> I had to re read that. The first time I read it, I thought it said >> she got out "before" he killed them all. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thank heavens I'm not the only one with brain farts.....except I can't blame >any meds. I can't either, but I do.
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