http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/reports/AASLD_2006/Abstracts/Monday%20Posters_HC
V%20Therapy_%20Pre-clinical.htm#preclin_927
LB9. Sustained Virologic Response Is Associated with Eradication of Hepatitis
C Virus and Fibrosis Regression in Patients Treated for Chronic Hepatitis C.
S. Maylin; M. Martinot -Peignoux; N. Boyer; M. Ripault; D. Cazals-Hatem; N.
Giuily; C. Castelnau; C. Féray; M. Nicolas-Chanoine; P. Bedossa; P. Marcellin
Background:
It is unclear whether hepatitis C virus (HCV) is eradicated in patients with
chronic hepatitis C who achieve a sustained virologic response [SVR). During
this long-term follow-up study, HCV-RNA was measured in serum, liver, and
peripheral blood mononuclear cells [PBMCs) in patients with chronic hepatitis
C who had a SVR and in whom liver histology was assessed.
Patients/Methods:
345 patients with SVR after treatment were studied. SVR was defined by the
absence of detectable serum HCV-RNA 6 months after treatment cessation. 242
(70%) patients received PEG-IFN plus ribavirin therapy (215 PEG-IFN alpha 2b
and 27 PEG-IFN alpha 2a). HCV-RNA was tested: -(1) in serum for all the 345
patients every years and at the time of PBMCs and/or liver tissue collection,
-(2) in PBMCs collected in 159 patients 3.9±3.4 (0.5-18) years after
treatment, -(3) in liver tissue in 116 patients, (32 at the end of treatment,
32 six months after treatment cessation and 52 at 3.9±3.4 (1-14) years post
treatment. Both PBMCs and liver tissue were available in 60 patients. Serum,
liver tissue samples and PBMCs were kept frozen at -80°C until use. HCV-RNA
was detected with VERSANT HCV-RNA Qualitative assay (Qual TMA, Bayer
Healthcare, LLc, Tarrytown, N.Y. USA) (sensitivity 10 IU/ml). We assessed the
TMA sensitivity using 3 WHO standard dilutions tested 10 times. 100%, 100% and
60 % of the WHO dilutions set at 5 IU/ml, 2.5 IUml and 1 IU/ml were detected
with TMA.
Results:
Patients were followed up for a mean of 4.0±3.01 (range, 0.5 -18) years. Serum
HCV RNA remained undetectable in all the patients (1624 samples). Normal serum
ALT levels were maintained in most of the patients; HCV-RNA was detectable in
the PBMCs for 2 patient (3 years after treatment cessation), and in the liver
tissues for 2 patients, (1 at 1 year; 1 at 6 years). The 2 patients with
detectable HCV-RNA in liver tissue had available PBMCs with undetectable
HCV-RNA. Pre and post-treatment liver biopsy specimens were available for 126
patients. Fibrosis stage was improved in 56%, stable 32% and deteriorated in
12%. Regression of cirrhosis was observed in 9 out of 14 patients. No
cirrhosis decompensation was observed.
Conclusion:
· These data are some of the longest follow-up data available (up to 18
years after treatment cessation) in patients successfully treated fro chronic
hepatitis C.
· None of the 345 patients in this study had a late relapse
· 210 (98.6%) of 213 patients had undetectable HCV RNA in PBMCs or
liver tissue, determined by the sensitive TMA assay.
· These results confirm observations from our earlier study: clearance
of serum HCV RNA is durable and associated with undetectable hepatic HCV RNA
and market histologic improvement.
· Our data show the importance of using a very sensitive assay (TMA) to
assess SVR.
· Risk for hepatocellular carcinoma remained in patients who attain an
SVR, underscoring the need for continue surveillance of this cohort if
*cirrhosis* persists. (emphasis added by moi)
· These results support the hypothesis that HCV is eradicated in
patients who attain an SVR after receiving IFN-based therapy.
Cheers
/greyhackles
Thomas Wagner - 30 Nov 2006 02:46 GMT
>[...]
>· None of the 345 patients in this study had a late relapse
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>of serum HCV RNA is durable and associated with undetectable hepatic HCV RNA
>and marke[d] histologic improvement.
This again pretty clearly shows that the virus is indeed dead and gone
in more than 98% of patients. You have to wonder about the quality of
treatment in the small group of patients examined by the two studies
that found detectable virus after SVR.
Thomas

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greyhackles - 30 Nov 2006 04:32 GMT
>>[...]
>>· None of the 345 patients in this study had a late relapse
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>
>Thomas
Well, that, and whether what they found was actually live, fully functional
HCV...or something else....
Cheers
/greyhackles
Waterspider - 30 Nov 2006 05:08 GMT
>>[...]
>>· None of the 345 patients in this study had a late relapse
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> treatment in the small group of patients examined by the two studies
> that found detectable virus after SVR.
I'd like to know more about the activities and lifestyle of those who had
HCV show up again. Even without knowing, I would suspect reinfection rather
than relapse.
Spidey
Professeur Von TwoSteps OA - 30 Nov 2006 09:48 GMT
From : "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net>
Message-ID : <12msv9kip7aq824@corp.supernews.com>
>I'd like to know more... SNIP
Silly waterspout, if you have to ask, you're not allowed to know
Oh Crikey, look at that.. all the *same* people sitting on the *same* chair, in
the *same* bar, drinking the same drink year in year out
Sucks to be you...
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*I* care
Waterspider - 30 Nov 2006 10:29 GMT
> From : "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net>
> Message-ID : <12msv9kip7aq824@corp.supernews.com>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
> *I* care
Well, well, well. Just the other day I was thinking about you and, whaddya
know, you appear. Nice trick.
Glad to see you haven't lost any of your charm <g>
WS
Professeur Von TwoSteps OA - 05 Dec 2006 10:47 GMT
From : "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net>
Message-ID : <12mtcjie3kgjnc3@corp.supernews.com>
>Just the other day I was thinking about you
*I* hope you were nakid at the time huh ?
Crikey waterspout, that would have be a decent into the right side of pleasure for *you*..
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Incantatrix - 30 Nov 2006 19:00 GMT
Professeur Von TwoSteps OA <.@.> <16428680.bb98d0@news.netdeath.edu> :
>From : "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net>
>Message-ID : <12msv9kip7aq824@corp.supernews.com>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Sucks to be you...
Purrrrrfessor!!!!
how's life these days my eternally beloved and respected?
missed you
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Cactus Jammies - 04 Dec 2006 19:49 GMT
You into Tantricks by any chance anja-buddy?
cactus jammies =========
"Incantatrix" <i havealife@home.com> wrote in message
> <pulls skirt over a.s>
> <wiggles>
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> we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
> wilde
Incantatrix - 04 Dec 2006 20:08 GMT
"Cactus Jammies" <cactusjammies@phish.net> <5Z_ch.17169$YV4.13999@edtnps89> :
>You into Tantricks by any chance anja-buddy?
i prefer the real action, but the tantric way can be even more intense though,
san cactus jammies
>cactus jammies =========
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>> we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
>> wilde
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Cactus Jammies - 04 Dec 2006 20:13 GMT
heh heh of course. heh heh maybe those pjs later for the more adventurous?
floating in a bath of agent Orange
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> <5Z_ch.17169$YV4.13999@edtnps89> :
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>>> <pulls skirt over a.s>
>>> <wiggles>
Professeur Von TwoSteps OA - 05 Dec 2006 10:45 GMT
From : Incantatrix <i havealife@home.com>
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><pulls skirt over a.s> <wiggles>
Salve beatam Anja semper bellus !!
OOooo Anja, *I* just want slip out of my skin-tight oiled leather
jeans and slowly rub that wild hot thought all over my body :/
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Joe Btsfplk - 02 Jan 2007 03:36 GMT
Gees...I've been gone too long...look what I've been missing!
>Professeur Von TwoSteps OA <.@.> <16428680.bb98d0@news.netdeath.edu> :
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
>wilde
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 02 Jan 2007 14:16 GMT
Hey, Beefstick!! How ya doing?
elmo
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Gees...I've been gone too long...look what I've been missing!
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:00:23 +0100, Incantatrix <i havealife@home.com>
wrote:
Professeur Von TwoSteps OA <.@.>
<16428680.bb98d0@news.netdeath.edu> :
From : "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> Message-ID :
<12msv9kip7aq824@corp.supernews.com>
I'd like to know more... SNIP
Silly waterspout, if you have to ask, you're not allowed to know
Oh Crikey, look at that.. all the *same* people sitting on the *same*
chair, in the *same* bar, drinking the same drink year in year out
Sucks to be you...
Purrrrrfessor!!!!
how's life these days my eternally beloved and respected? missed you
<reverences>
<pulls skirt over a.s>
<wiggles>

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Joe Btsfplk - 02 Jan 2007 17:32 GMT
Great Elmo........lotsa long timers still here...good to see.
>Hey, Beefstick!! How ya doing?
>elmo
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Waterspider - 30 Nov 2006 05:06 GMT
> http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/reports/AASLD_2006/Abstracts/Monday%20Posters_HC
V%20Therapy_%20Pre-clinical.htm#preclin_927
>
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>
> /greyhackles
Thanks for posting this, Grey, this is indeed good news for those of us who
have achieved an SVR but still harbour a niggling little doubt because of
previous studies that showed a much higher "relapse" rate. Cheers indeed!
Spidey
kjoh - 01 Dec 2006 22:38 GMT
This is good news. Thanks for posting, Grey. This study is much more
robust than the ones I looked at a few days ago. One of those studies
detected the "occult" form of HCV in 19 out of 20 people with SVR (95%),
but in this one you posted the occult form was only detected in three out
of 213 people with SVR (1%). So the sample population in the study you
posted was ten times larger.
There is no indication that the patients in either group of SVRs was
randomly selected, so who knows where they found those twenty people. Or
the 213, for that matter. Maybe they used the same biopsy needle for
the group of twenty......eeeeeee!
It is worrisome that this occult form seems to be able to replicate, and
can be associated with liver damage, so I hope the matter continues to get
attention. It is creepy to think that it might be present in blood
products used for transfusions.
I think it is noteworthy that the majority of patients in the larger
study were veterans of combo tx. Also noteworthy is that fibrosis was
improved in 56% of those patients and stabilized in 32%.
So jolly good, then. I'll put my money on the larger study. Thanks
again.
Koko slow mo