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Cody - 28 Oct 2006 01:39 GMT
I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
chill. This was about two hours ago. I still have it and am sitting next
to a heater which alleviates it but as soon as I move away from the
heater, it comes back and it isn't really cold tonight. To make matters
worse, sitting next to the heater causes me to sweat which, in turn,
cools me off and brings back the chill. I have taken some codeine cough
syrup, about three hours ago and some aspirin, half hour ago, but it's
still there.

Any suggestions and does anyone think this is from HepC?

Thanks,

Cody
Cody - 28 Oct 2006 01:40 GMT
> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
> sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Cody

Oh, and I did 15 push ups to see if getting my circulation going would
help. It seems to have helped some but not enough :(

Cody
greyhackles - 28 Oct 2006 02:01 GMT
>> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
>> sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Cody

Well, maybe you're just coming down with something mundane.

Anyone in your family unit sporting a cold lately? I don't know anything about
the schools in Spain, but in the US, by the time October is done all of the
school kids have had a solid couple of months to exchange bugs...

Cheers - and feel better soon.

/greyhackles
Cody - 28 Oct 2006 02:16 GMT
>>> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
>>> sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Well, maybe you're just coming down with something mundane.

I did have the flu but it was worse a couple of days ago and I thought I
was pretty much over it. Unfortunately, this is something I've been
plagued with for over 20 years and it's worse if I have the flu or a
cold but neither are necessary to trigger it.

> Anyone in your family unit sporting a cold lately? I don't know anything about
> the schools in Spain, but in the US, by the time October is done all of the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> /greyhackles

Thanks, I hope so.

Alias
Dwight - 28 Oct 2006 03:30 GMT
>>>> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was
>>>> just sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Alias

Cody, it sounds like a fever. I know I've been having chills for the
last week or so without having a fever. Don't know if it has anything to
do with the hep-c or not, but hope you feel better soon.

Dwight
Cody - 28 Oct 2006 03:36 GMT
>>>>> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was
>>>>> just sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Dwight

Thanks. I feel a little better now that the aspirin has kicked in. Soon,
I'll try to get some sleep. Glad I have an electric blanket!

Cody
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 28 Oct 2006 14:56 GMT
Re: Chills  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 2:40am (CDT+7)
From: notever@msn.org (Cody)
Cody wrote:
I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
chill. This was about two hours ago. I still have it and am sitting next
to a heater which alleviates it but as soon as I move away from the
heater, it comes back and it isn't really cold tonight. To make matters
worse, sitting next to the heater causes me to sweat which, in turn,
cools me off and brings back the chill. I have taken some codeine cough
syrup, about three hours ago and some aspirin, half hour ago, but it's
still there.
Any suggestions and does anyone think this is from HepC?
Thanks,
Cody
Oh, and I did 15 push ups to see if getting my circulation going would
help. It seems to have helped some but not enough :(
Cody  
///////////
Maybe if you do another hundred push-ups, it'd be enough.  :-)

Seriously, Cody, I wouldn't worry about it.  I'm guessing by the time
you read this, it will have disappeared.  Who knows, maybe you're
catching the flu, but I doubt it's the hepc?  
elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Cody - 28 Oct 2006 15:29 GMT
>  
> Re: Chills  
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> ///////////
> Maybe if you do another hundred push-ups, it'd be enough.  :-)

I *wish* I could do a hundred.

> Seriously, Cody, I wouldn't worry about it.  I'm guessing by the time
> you read this, it will have disappeared.  Who knows, maybe you're
> catching the flu, but I doubt it's the hepc?  
> elmo

Well, the flu did have something to do with it but I think it only
accentuated it because I have had these chill attacks when I didn't have
the flu and it's been plaguing me for over 20 years. I've been to many
doctors but none of them can explain it.

I am feeling much better today, though.

Cody
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 28 Oct 2006 16:08 GMT
Re: Chills  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 4:29pm (CDT+7)
From: notever@msn.org (Cody)
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
Re: Chills
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 2:40am (CDT+7)
From: notever@msn.org (Cody)
Cody wrote:
I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
chill. This was about two hours ago. I still have it and am sitting next
to a heater which alleviates it but as soon as I move away from the
heater, it comes back and it isn't really cold tonight. To make matters
worse, sitting next to the heater causes me to sweat which, in turn,
cools me off and brings back the chill. I have taken some codeine cough
syrup, about three hours ago and some aspirin, half hour ago, but it's
still there.
Any suggestions and does anyone think this is from HepC? Thanks,
Cody
Oh, and I did 15 push ups to see if getting my circulation going would
help. It seems to have helped some but not enough :( Cody
///////////
Maybe if you do another hundred push-ups, it'd be enough. :-)
I *wish* I could do a hundred.
Seriously, Cody, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm guessing by the time you
read this, it will have disappeared. Who knows, maybe you're catching
the flu, but I doubt it's the hepc? elmo
Well, the flu did have something to do with it but I think it only
accentuated it because I have had these chill attacks when I didn't have
the flu and it's been plaguing me for over 20 years. I've been to many
doctors but none of them can explain it.
I am feeling much better today, though.
Cody  
///////////
I wish I could do a hundred push-ups too.  LOL.  Well, maybe your chills
ARE associated with your hep, after all.  I didn't get the chills, but
would occasionally get sudden unexplained bouts of debilitating fatigue.
My ex-wife used to think I was just being lazy.  ahahahahhahahaha!!!  I
went to the doc for it and they didn't even think to test me for
hepc.....was tested for Lyme's disease a few times over a 15 year
period.  When I was finally diagnosed with hepc, it was almost a relief
in that I finally knew what was causing my fatigue.  That was until they
told me what the tx for my affliction was.  LOL.  
elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Burke Gilman - 28 Oct 2006 04:33 GMT
> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
> sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
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>
> Cody

Hey Cody, I don't recall you talkin' about Hep-C before. But there's a
lot I don't recall so that doesn't mean much. Tell me, do you have
Hep-C now? If so, you might be going through what I went through prior
to Tx. Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
virus -- and yeah, *chills* was one of the resulting symptoms. Also, at
times I became diaphoretic. During the middle of one crisis near the
end I was sitting at a desk in school for a compulsory exam and so much
sweat was pouring off my face that I had to sit back to keep the
scantron test-form from getting drenched....and this was on a cold day.
-bg
Cody - 28 Oct 2006 12:52 GMT
>> I don't know if it has anything to do with Hep C but tonight I was just
>> sitting there, watching TV and all of a sudden I got a very strong
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> scantron test-form from getting drenched....and this was on a cold day.
>  -bg

Yes, I have Hep C, genotype 1a. I have had it at least since 90 and
probably since 66 or so. Fortunately, I woke up this afternoon without
the chills. What a night!

Thanks for you concern,

Cody
Russian - 29 Oct 2006 06:38 GMT
> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
> my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
> virus -- and yeah, *chills* was one of the resulting symptoms.

That's very interesting to me because I have had many of the symptoms
described as tx sides *WELL BEFORE* I started treatment.

I started getting chills maybe 4 times a years starting in 96 or so.

My solution for chills is that I can feel it before it starts, and I
react totally before symptoms start.

To avoid or cure chills, I use super-thick wool LL Bean socks,
sweatpants, t-shirt, really warm sweatshirt, and get under the covers.

If it's bad, I also find running my hands under warm water helps.  Also,
the bathroom as a heater that if run for 5-10 minutes gets the room
really hot.
Burke Gilman - 29 Oct 2006 07:55 GMT
> > Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
> > my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> the bathroom as a heater that if run for 5-10 minutes gets the room
> really hot.

Yeah, *well before Tx* is it. Body tissues dump interferon in response
to viral invasion, inteferon levels spike up as a result, and
symptomatic response is essentially same as response to exogenous
interferon administered during Tx. Big difference in my experience with
interferon prior to Tx is that it apparently spiked for only a couple
days or so before dropping back down to normal asymptomatic levels. But
when it hit, it hit hard. I know that chronic HCV is typically
asymptomatic until later stage fibrosis, but I'm here to say such is
not always the case. Over two or three years prior to Tx, it's apparent
that IFN dosed me with various flu symptoms once every two or three
months. So far, post Tx, all that is history now. So far.
Cody - 29 Oct 2006 10:53 GMT
>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
>>> my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> that IFN dosed me with various flu symptoms once every two or three
> months. So far, post Tx, all that is history now. So far.

I think you may have something there.

Cody
Cody - 29 Oct 2006 10:52 GMT
>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
>> my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> the bathroom as a heater that if run for 5-10 minutes gets the room
> really hot.

Didn't know about the hands and the warm water. I'll try that next time.
I also have a heater in the bathroom ...

Cody
Waterspider - 29 Oct 2006 22:27 GMT
>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
>>> my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Cody

Cup your hands and hold your wrists together under the running water. The
warm water will have a quicker effect if it runs over your wrists,
presumably warming your blood a bit. This works just as well for cooling you
down (with cold water, yes).
Cody - 30 Oct 2006 00:22 GMT
>>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
>>>> my endogenous interferon levels had been spiking in response to the
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> presumably warming your blood a bit. This works just as well for cooling you
> down (with cold water, yes).

Thanks for the tip. Fortunately, tonight I haven't got the chills, or at
least not yet.

Cody
Waterspider - 31 Oct 2006 19:41 GMT
>> Cody :
>>>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Thanks for the tip. Fortunately, tonight I haven't got the chills, or at
> least not yet.

Hope you're feeling better. If it's any consolation, flu season has hit the
Sunshine Coast and it seems everyone is feeling like crap. Viruses (virons?
viri?) just have no couth at all, they always treat their hosts horribly <g>

Spidey
Cody - 01 Nov 2006 01:20 GMT
>>> Cody :
>>>>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Spidey

It's still hanging on but not like the hell of incessant suffering I
went through the other night. Now, I just have a cough and use a lot of
Kleenex.

I am sure now that it is the flu and we all know what the cure for that
is: time.

In the meantime, hash is doing a pretty good job of helping me get
through the night.

Cody
Waterspider - 01 Nov 2006 08:27 GMT
>>>> Cody :
>>>>>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> Cody

You're lucky you didn't get that horrid cough-lung-bronchial thingy that
required antibiotics with the threat of pneumonia (sp). Went three days
without a cigarette because I couldn't breathe, then, after my GP prescribed
antibiotics, three days with diahorreah (again, sp). Whoo-hooo, today is the
first day that I've felt human in a week!

My throat was too sensitive to toke anything, just led to hacking and
wheezing. However, happily, things are back to normal <g>
Incantatrix - 01 Nov 2006 22:37 GMT
"Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net>      <12khk3e5ge5on89@corp.supernews.com> :


>>>>> Cody :
>>>>>>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>My throat was too sensitive to toke anything, just led to hacking and
>wheezing. However, happily, things are back to normal <g>

i had the same, but went through it without antibiotics. cures slowly, pfew.
been coughing for two weeks, couldn't smoke for a week either, but other
herbs (chinese: ban lan gen keli, ganmao zhike chongji and chuanbei ye)
kept me at my feet. even after three weeks now i still have
an occasional cough, but i guess that is because i am keeping up with smoking,
heh. at least i can sleep through the night again, pfew.
one thing i know for sure: kleenex had a good costumer on me. i emptied nine
boxes in that period!

hope all is fine with you and yours.
did you see mom's babee? she posted a picture of her brandnew and first
granddaughter.
--  

mhm 35x6
smeeter 37(?)
wsd40

we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
wilde
Cody - 02 Nov 2006 02:21 GMT
>>>>> Cody :
>>>>>>>> Upon a closer review of my Hx, my care provider concluded that
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> antibiotics, three days with diahorreah (again, sp). Whoo-hooo, today is the
> first day that I've felt human in a week!

Wow, glad to hear you pulled through and that I didn't get that strain.
Diarrhea is nothing but evil for us hemorrhoid sufferers! Antibiotics
aren't really great for the old liver either.

> My throat was too sensitive to toke anything, just led to hacking and
> wheezing. However, happily, things are back to normal <g>

Well, have a toke on me.

Cody passes the bowl.
JV - 02 Nov 2006 19:24 GMT
Its time to get your thyroid checked out Cody. Temperature is controlled
by thyroid hormones.        Juanita
Cody - 02 Nov 2006 19:38 GMT
> Its time to get your thyroid checked out Cody. Temperature is controlled
> by thyroid hormones.        Juanita

Maybe but I have had this problem for over thirty years ...

Cody
shawn2 - 03 Nov 2006 01:35 GMT
Cody, I don't know what the regs for electronic devices are in Valecia.
But, Randi just bought an electric heating pad for our bed. It's
adjustible for both sides. I love It's REALLY helps with my pain. I keep
my side at about 104F I find it very soothing in the morning after I take
my pills. Be Well. Shawn
Cody - 03 Nov 2006 01:44 GMT
> Cody, I don't know what the regs for electronic devices are in Valecia.
> But, Randi just bought an electric heating pad for our bed. It's
> adjustible for both sides. I love It's REALLY helps with my pain. I keep
> my side at about 104F I find it very soothing in the morning after I take
> my pills. Be Well. Shawn

I have an electric blanket and just love it.

Cody
shawn2 - 03 Nov 2006 15:44 GMT
get one that fits on your bottom sheet. you'll notice the differenc!!!
shawn2 - 15 Nov 2006 02:16 GMT
Hi Cody! Against all doctors advice I started taking vitamin B-12. I use
vegamite or marmite on crackers. But, you can buy pills, 500mg twice a
day. I have definite results on cold feet and so does Randi. Hope this
helps.
shawn.
Firestar - 15 Nov 2006 05:02 GMT
> Hi Cody! Against all doctors advice I started taking vitamin B-12. I use
> vegamite or marmite on crackers. But, you can buy pills, 500mg twice a
> day. I have definite results on cold feet and so does Randi. Hope this
> helps.
> shawn.

Doesn't the sodium in vegamite dehydrate you Shawn?  It does me.
Thom
Cody - 15 Nov 2006 11:13 GMT
> Hi Cody! Against all doctors advice I started taking vitamin B-12. I use
> vegamite or marmite on crackers. But, you can buy pills, 500mg twice a
> day. I have definite results on cold feet and so does Randi. Hope this
> helps.
> shawn.

Thanks for the tip.

Cody
 
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