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Patrick McDonald - 25 Oct 2006 03:15 GMT
I recently had sex w/an informed partner.  Shortly afterwards, she was
in an infectious disease protocol class for prospective LPN's and heard
some horror stories regarding HCV and how easily it's passed during
intercourse.
I know the stats and ways that it's passed most often as a result of
sex.  I have always been upfront, honest, and responsible about my disease.
The info that I can't find is this.  My genotype is Type I.  If I have
indeed passed this virus to her, will her infection also be Type I?

Thanks,
Patrick in Gainesville, FL
greyhackles - 25 Oct 2006 03:26 GMT
>I recently had sex w/an informed partner.  Shortly afterwards, she was
>in an infectious disease protocol class for prospective LPN's and heard
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>Thanks,
>Patrick in Gainesville, FL

Geeze....

Once again, the medical community shows just how flagrantly ignorant it is
with respect to HCV. It's everywhere you look.

Pathetic.

The truth of the matter is, HCV is damned difficult to pass via "conventional"
forms of sexual congress. Period. End of story. And tell your girlfriend to
pass that along to the nitwits that were teaching that course.

Otherwise....

Regardless of how it is passed, the passee will have the same genotype and
subtype as the passer.

Cheers

/greyhackles
Thomas Wagner - 25 Oct 2006 05:36 GMT
>I recently had sex w/an informed partner.  Shortly afterwards, she was
>in an infectious disease protocol class for prospective LPN's and heard
>some horror stories regarding HCV and how easily it's passed during
>intercourse.
>I know the stats and ways that it's passed most often as a result of
>sex.

Oh my god... what idiot sold that bunch of bullshit? Sexual transmission
of HCV is EXTREMELY RARE. As Grey said, the ignorance in the medical
community is pathetic. But spreading this kind of disinformation in
courses for LPNs should be reason to fire the instructor.

References? Try the CDC:

[...] a low prevalence of HCV infection has been reported by studies of
long-term spouses of patients with chronic HCV infection who had no
other risk factors for infection. Five of these studies have been
conducted in the United States, involving 30-85 partners each, in which
average prevalence of HCV infection was 1.5% (range: 0% to 4.4%) [...]

Among persons with evidence of high-risk sexual practices (e.g.,
patients attending STD clinics and female prostitutes) who denied a
history of injecting-drug use, prevalence of anti-HCV has been found to
average 6% (range: 1%-10%) [...]

Although considerable inconsistencies exist among studies, data indicate
overall that sexual transmission of HCV appears to occur, but that the
virus is inefficiently spread through this manner. More data are needed
to determine the risk for, and factors related to, transmission of HCV
between long-term steady partners as well as among persons with
high-risk sexual practices, including whether other STDs promote
transmission of HCV by influencing viral load or modifying mucosal
barriers

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00055154.htm

or this:

Lancet. 1993 Jul 24;342(8865):210-1.

Sexual transmission of hepatitis C virus.

Bresters D, Mauser-Bunschoten EP, Reesink HW, Roosendaal G, van der Poel
CL, Chamuleau RA, Jansen PL, Weegink CJ, Cuypers HT, Lelie PN, et al.

Red Cross Blood Bank Amsterdam, Netherlands.

We tested 50 heterosexual partners of hepatitis C viraemic (HCV)
individuals, using second generation HCV antibody assays and a validated
polymerase chain reaction assay. In none of them were HCV antibodies or
HCV-RNA detected. The median duration of the sexual relationship was 13
years. This study, with the most sensitive techniques for detection of
HCV, indicates that the risk of sexual transmission of HCV is absent or
very low.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8
100931&dopt=Citation


or this:

J Med Virol. 1993 Jul;40(3):251-3.

Low risk of sexual transmission of hepatitis C virus.
Hallam NF, Fletcher ML, Read SJ, Majid AM, Kurtz JB, Rizza CR.

Virology Department, Public Health Laboratory, John Radcliffe Hospital,
Oxford, England.

Sexual transmission of hepatitis C virus (HCV) was studied between 104
anti-HCV positive index cases (99 haemophilic men, five women) who have
attended the Oxford Haemophilia Centre and 104 (98 female, 6 male)
longstanding sexual partners. Ninety-one percent of the index cases were
HCV RNA positive by the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and 56% were
anti-human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) positive. Three (2.9%) sexual
partners (each a female partner of a different HCV RNA positive
haemophilic man) were anti-HCV, and HCV RNA, positive. All had other
risk factors for HCV infection. Of 59 partners who were tested for
anti-HIV four (7%) were positive and only one of these was also anti-HCV
positive. There was no association between HIV positivity in the index
cases and HCV positivity in their partners. Our results confirm a low
risk of sexual transmission of HCV.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7
689092&dopt=Citation


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Russian - 25 Oct 2006 06:39 GMT
Like the others said, sexual transmission is so rare that in the cases
where it was reported,  the individuals involved may have forgotten to
mention the part about sharing needles.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 25 Oct 2006 14:57 GMT
If you had vaginal sex, she'll be type 1.  Butt, if you had anal sex,
she'll probably have a #2.  :-)
elmo
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dt12 - 25 Oct 2006 15:31 GMT
> If you had vaginal sex, she'll be type 1.  Butt, if you had anal sex,
> she'll probably have a #2.  :-)
> elmo
> hold the phone

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Paul - 25 Oct 2006 17:51 GMT
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:57:43 -0500, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message
ID <21702-453F6D57-19@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>If you had vaginal sex, she'll be type 1.  Butt, if you had anal sex,
>she'll probably have a #2.  :-)
>elmo
>hold the phone

What do you have to do to get type 3?
mags - 25 Oct 2006 19:02 GMT
I beleive if I am not mistaken it is a menage a trois.

Mags

> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:57:43 -0500, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message
> ID <21702-453F6D57-19@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> What do you have to do to get type 3?
Incantatrix - 25 Oct 2006 19:23 GMT
"mags" <Chillnil@rogers.com>      <1161799341.323043.148450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> :


>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:57:43 -0500, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message
>> ID <21702-453F6D57-19@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> What do you have to do to get type 3?

>I beleive if I am not mistaken it is a menage a trois.
>
>Mags

and 4 's a gang bang!

--  

mhm 35x6
smeeter 37(?)
wsd40

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wilde
Cody - 25 Oct 2006 19:38 GMT
> "mags" <Chillnil@rogers.com>      <1161799341.323043.148450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> :
>  
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> --  

LOL!

Cody

> mhm 35x6
> smeeter 37(?)
> wsd40
>
> we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
> wilde
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 26 Oct 2006 13:23 GMT
Re: Sexual xmission  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 8:23pm (CDT+7)
From: i havealife@home.com (Incantatrix)
"mags" <Chillnil@rogers.com>    
<1161799341.323043.148450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> :
Paul wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:57:43 -0500, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message ID
<21702-453F6D57-19@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
If you had vaginal sex, she'll be type 1. Butt, if you had anal sex,
she'll probably have a #2. :-)
elmo
hold the phone
What do you have to do to get type 3?
I beleive if I am not mistaken it is a menage a trois.
Mags
and 4 's a gang bang!
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ahahahahahahahah!!!  It's a good thing we have this forum to share all
this 'knowledge'.  Priceless!!
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Burke Gilman - 25 Oct 2006 20:08 GMT
> If you had vaginal sex, she'll be type 1.  Butt, if you had anal sex,
> she'll probably have a #2.  :-)
> elmo

That's right. I had type 3.   -bg
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 26 Oct 2006 13:30 GMT
Re: Sexual xmission  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:08pm (CDT-2)
From: burkegilman@moxmail.net (Burke Gilman)
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
If you had vaginal sex, she'll be type 1. Butt, if you had anal sex,
she'll probably have a #2. :-)
elmo
That's right. I had type 3.   -bg
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Don't get 'cocky' now, Burke.  
ahahahahahahahah!!
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