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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / September 2006Relapse
Hi dudes an´gals Well i´m awake again, time is 1:30 (in the night haven´t figured out your AM PM) or 01:30 in European, and im searching for some answers on the net but can´t find any, so maby you can help. I´m geno 2b and my first 24w treatment came out as a dissapointment because i relapsed shortly after tx, have to add that i cut the treatment after 22w due to complications. My doc tells me that sometimes geno 2 are somewhat more difficult than 3 but easyer to treat than 1 and therefore, recomended me a new 48w treatment in which i´m on my fourth week now. ?#1 -Has anyone heard something similar. I understand that treating hep C when liverdamage has occured and is severe is also a reason for relaps. I have not been for a biopsy but i´m considering doing it. +#2 -Is this true, and if so, where can i find out moore. Gonna´ crawl to ye´ ol´ sack now an´ try to get me some shuteye, hope the cat aint left no turds in it. /H > Hi dudes an´gals > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > /H Personally, I think its a good idea to have a biopsy especially if you suspect you have had it a long time. It lets you know where you stand. If done right, they are safe and relatively painless. G´day anonymousone Thanx for your reply, and I guessed i might get that answer...... Well, tell you what, i´m 41 now and i belive i got the bug some odd 20 years ago during my realy wild youth (over since 22) and since then i´ve enjoyed partying and good wine/food, probably moore than i deserved, so to say, i may have put another unnecessary burdon to myself through the years since. I first started having symptoms about 8-9 years ago and it took 6 diferent doc´s before they finaly found the cause and i was given the verdict hep C, 2,5 years ago. I´m somewhat hypochondriactic so i worry quite alot over symptoms and so on, and thus my questions. But i can´t get to terms on getting a biopsy, im afraid this will confirm my dreads and i dont think that it would help me knowing "where i stand", i´d rather not know, i think? Oh crap! it´s turned 4:00 in the morning and i´m still not tired, i belive i´d need a sleepingpill the size of a hockeypuck to put me out. Well anyway if someone has any answers please fill me in. Yawn :-o /H anonymousone skrev: > Personally, I think its a good idea to have a biopsy especially if you > suspect you have had it a long time. It lets you know where you stand. > If done right, they are safe and relatively painless. Re: Relapse Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 5:13pm (CDT-2) From: tedw2@earthlink.net (anonymousone) h00hbt wrote: Hi dudes an´gals Well i´m awake again, time is 1:30 (in the night haven´t figured out your AM PM) or 01:30 in European, and im searching for some answers on the net but can´t find any, so maby you can help. I´m geno 2b and my first 24w treatment came out as a dissapointment because i relapsed shortly after tx, have to add that i cut the treatment after 22w due to complications. My doc tells me that sometimes geno 2 are somewhat more difficult than 3 but easyer to treat than 1 and therefore, recomended me a new 48w treatment in which i´m on my fourth week now. ?#1 -Has anyone heard something similar. I understand that treating hep C when liverdamage has occured and is severe is also a reason for relaps. I have not been for a biopsy but i´m considering doing it. +#2 -Is this true, and if so, where can i find out moore. Gonna´ crawl to ye´ ol´ sack now an´ try to get me some shuteye, hope the cat aint left no turds in it. /H /////////// If you were going to have a biopsy, I would think the time to do it would be before or after tx, not during it. If it were me, I'd wait to see if I got my SVR and if I didn't, then maybe a biopsy. Your doc's comments about genotype, as well as the tx regimen he's got you on, sound just about right. elmo if the cat sh.ts in your bed, crap in his http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum elmoemerson@webtv.net skrev: > if the cat sh.ts in your bed, crap in his ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Hey elmo Thanx for advice ant the catshit comment, it made me laugh for the first time today. sh.t i feel like crap today. Rgds /H > Hi dudes an´gals > Well i´m awake again, time is 1:30 (in the night haven´t figured out [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > hope the cat aint left no turds in it. > /H Fwiw, I went forward with Tx without Bx, and don't really care about it now. (Just completed Tx for G-3 a few days ago.) Also, if your care options are the same as the ones I had, then you don't have the option of getting a Bx now anyway! Once I told provider I wanted Tx, then Bx was no longer in the Tx pathway -- Bx in my case is only used to help Pt choose or deny Tx, not for Pt to study liver for that reason alone. At first the curiosity about my liver condition bothered me, but now I don't miss not getting the Bx. I got started with Tx quite a bit sooner that way and now I'm done with Tx that much sooner. The Bx would have been of no use for Tx itself and I'd treat just the same regardless of whatever I might have learned from Bx. Once comitted to dragon slaying, that was everything. And after you have started Tx, a Bx may be imprudent anyway -- with all the chemicals hammering away at you, why be stabbing yourself in the liver now? Anyway, you may be wringing your hands in anxiety over a choice you don't actually have now or at least one that is irrelevant now. -bg Hi Burke I guess that having hep C naturally raises the question about my liver condition, as you say. So i will leave it to the pile of others questions without answers. Happy to hear that you´ve compleated tx, cheers. Rgds /H "h00hbt" <post_brandt@hotmail.com> wrote <snippage> I understand that treating hep C when liverdamage has occured and is severe is also a reason for relaps. I have not been for a biopsy but i´m considering doing it. H00-h00, give it your best go, and if it takes 48 weeks it takes 48 weeks. Consider yourself lucky that you're Geno 2 and, although I don't have stats, I'd say your odds of a SVR with 48 weeks for Geno 2 are excellent, second round or not. Now, your questions... Liver damage does not affect the outcome of treatment. Biopsy is the ONLY way to determine the extent of your liver damage. Good luck > "h00hbt" <post_brandt@hotmail.com> wrote > <snippage> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Good luck Except that if someone keels over from liver failure, it's a pretty good bet that one can say the liver is f.cked up royally without having to do a biopsy. Cody >> "h00hbt" <post_brandt@hotmail.com> wrote >> <snippage> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > bet that one can say the liver is f.cked up royally without having to do a > biopsy. Oh yeah, that's a dead giveaway (no pun intended) and, if the liver at this point is compensated, treatment is no longer an option. Spidey "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> <12gf8ppe09gvv6e@corp.supernews.com> : >"h00hbt" <post_brandt@hotmail.com> wrote ><snippage> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Biopsy is the ONLY way to determine the extent of your liver damage. hey spidey, they found a new way to determine liver damage by a blood test. i had it done. it costs 70 euro though. fibro-score test it 's called. the labo have to send your blood to france. (at least here in belgium they have to) oh and btw my score was 0.7 ---> F=0 , after 20-25 years of infection. i feel blessed. not by god though ;^) hope all is fine with you. did you ever sold your company? i've been gone from here for a long while. too busy trolling ;-) >Good luck -- mhm 35x6 smeeter 37(?) wsd40 we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars wilde ANJA! (((((hugs Anja))))) It's so nice to see you after so long! It's just recently that I've had time to drop in here more regularly. Not trolling like you (lol), just too f.cking busy with work. I took the business off the market the month after I listed it in January (cold feet, as they say, not to mention an ego problem), but as of last week I've put it for sale again, only privately this time. Why pay a realtor? Congratulations on your most excellent test results! I have been hearing of the blood test for a couple of years now but it is still not available in Canada. No surprise, we're very slow in medical advances compared to your neighbourhood. How are you doing? Still taking courses and "driving all the old men crazy"? Spidey > "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> > <12gf8ppe09gvv6e@corp.supernews.com> : [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars > wilde "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> <12gjgmqpjf70n7a@corp.supernews.com> : >ANJA! > >(((((hugs Anja))))) (((((((((((WS))))))))))) >It's so nice to see you after so long! It's just recently that I've had time >to drop in here more regularly. Not trolling like you (lol), just too >f.cking busy with work. I took the business off the market the month after I >listed it in January (cold feet, as they say, not to mention an ego >problem), but as of last week I've put it for sale again, only privately >this time. Why pay a realtor? i've downloaded the messages in ash-c today for the first time in a year i believe, and bumped into those KKK messages, so i couldn't resist interfering, heh. means you weren't really ready for it that time, always follow your intuition. specially females. we can't read maps but no man can top our intuition! indeed they are thieves and good luck with the sale! >Congratulations on your most excellent test results! I have been hearing of >the blood test for a couple of years now but it is still not available in >Canada. No surprise, we're very slow in medical advances compared to your >neighbourhood. it isn't done in belgium yet either. my hepatologist, who suggested me the blood test because i was to chicken sh.t to have a biopsy, had to sent my blood to france, that is why it's still so expensive to have that test. it isn't on our social security system yet, so one has to pay for it out of his own pocket. (my doc doesn't get any profit out of it at all) but i preferred that over the stab in my liver, <g> 70 euro isn't that much. >How are you doing? Still taking courses and "driving all the old men crazy"? been on a roller coaster from hell past year. finished my first year of studying traditional chinese medicine. my head is about to explode, lol. next month the second grade starts, but i don't know if i will go on. after that it's three more years ... still have my lovers. one ten years younger (my soulmate since eleven years already!), one four years older than me. (an old friend to whom i bumped in again three months ago and it was like 'zhiiiing', you can guess what happened next, heh) and i'll stick to them. no more 'real' relationships for me whilst. i guess i'm really not made for them, lol. life is good :) <warm wet smooches> anja >Spidey > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars >> wilde -- mhm 35x6 smeeter 37(?) wsd40 we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars wilde |
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