Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
GeneralCardiologyVisionDentistryPharmacyLaboratoryNutritionAlternative
Diseases and Disorders
AIDSAlzheimer'sArthritisAsthmaCancerBreast CancerDiabetesEpilepsyGlaucomaHepatitisHerpesLupusProstate BPHProstate CancerProstatitisSinusitisTinnitus

Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / August 2006

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Any Poisitive Points?

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
silkunicorn@gmail.com - 19 Aug 2006 05:32 GMT
Hi,  I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
comments. All the side effects, aching bones and feeling sick. It just
made me more depressed and it's not my intention to come to this forum.
Doesn't anyone has any positive things to say about Neupogen, how much
it has helped you, etc.? Aren't we supposed to cheer each other up
instead of making others feel depressed?

Thomas
Burke Gilman - 19 Aug 2006 06:24 GMT
> Hi,  I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
> to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thomas

Um, I've not required Neupogen, as far as I know, but I understand it
can keep you from being dead. Nothing personal, but that could be a
positive point. Sorry your stuck at home on Friday night.

Cheers
-BG
cwk - 19 Aug 2006 07:19 GMT
> Hi,  I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
> to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thomas

I had low white and red counts.  I really felt the low red counts, but
the doc said the white count was disturbing him even more.  I got taken
off treatment around Week 18.  I started doing some research and got
the doc to check into Neupogen and Procrit.  I was on both drugs for
nearly two weeks without the treatment, and so got familiar with their
side effects.  The only side effect I noticed was a dull ache in the
tops of my hip bones and in my joints.  That's the Nupogen.  It's
nothing Tylenol can't manage.  Keep in mind that the typical Neupogen
patient is a cancer patient on chemotherapy.  What *isn't* going to be
wrong with that population?

My only real complaint is the syringe.  The needles are as dull as a
stick pin.  For the price of that stuff, the needle should be gold
plated titanium sharpened at a molecular level by nanobots!

I'm now taking Neupogen on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, Procrit on
Wednesday, and Interferon on Friday.  I feel like a pin cushion, and I
still am borderline low on the red count, but whites are right where
they should be.  Without both drugs, I might have been off treatment
for good or had my dose reduced without them.  So yeh, I feel pretty
positive.  I'm now counting down from 18.

Hang in there.  If you can handle Interferon and Ribavirin, Neupogen is
a cakewalk.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 19 Aug 2006 15:17 GMT
Any Poisitive Points?  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 9:32pm (CDT-2)
From: silkunicorn@gmail.com
Hi, I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
comments. All the side effects, aching bones and feeling sick. It just
made me more depressed and it's not my intention to come to this forum.
  Doesn't anyone has any positive things to say about Neupogen, how
much it has helped you, etc.? Aren't we supposed to cheer each other up
instead of making others feel depressed?
Thomas
//////////////
Wellllll....if it wasn't your 'intention', then why in the hell are you
here?  You accidently typed a message and hit the wrong button and sent
it?  :-)

If the posts in this forum make you depressed, then you need a good
anti-d.
This place is full of love and a source of great support, as well as a
reservoir of information and experience you won't find anywhere else.
Quit complaining and sit down and listen for awhile.  

Neupogen is good.  :-)
elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
silkunicorn@gmail.com - 19 Aug 2006 17:19 GMT
Well, you are sure full of positive feelings, love and caring. The way
you response to my post, I just wonder how caring are you!  And don't
forget, this is a free country, if I want to come to any forum, I'm
free to do so. AND, if I want to express any of my opinion, I'm free to
do so as well. Why are you to judge me!

> Any Poisitive Points?
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Sara - 19 Aug 2006 17:54 GMT
And who are you to judge this group from the few posts you have
read?

and for what it's worth, Elmo is one of the MOST caring folks in
this group -- and if you read his stuff for a while you'll see
how much he really does care about ALL of us.  He's our rock. He
keeps us laughing.  Laughing is a good thing :)  He has a way of
making fun of himself and of us, that makes us realize what is
really important in this life.

Sara

> Well, you are sure full of positive feelings, love and caring.
> The way
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>>
>> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
mags - 19 Aug 2006 18:11 GMT
You beat me to this Sara!  Well said.  There are many people in this
group who offer support, advice and a smack up the side of the head
when necessary.  I finish week 48 on Tuesday and if it were not for the
fine folks in this group such as Sara, Elmo, KJ, Dort, Greyhackles,
Russ, Eileen, Thip,Stretch, Dwight, Thomas, Canadave, Waterspider and
many many more (too brain fogged to remember)  Everyone in here has
something to offer.  If you are taking treatment you might want to hang
in here and it will help you.  We do overlook riba rages!

Mags
life is the positive point

> And who are you to judge this group from the few posts you have
> read?
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> >>
> >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 20 Aug 2006 15:36 GMT
Yeah, Mags.  I agree about all those fine people you mentioned,
including myself.  ahahahahahahaha!!  Well, maybe with the exception of
Greyhackles.  :-)  Don't forget CJ and Doogie Doo!!
elmo
//////////
You beat me to this Sara! Well said. There are many people in this group
who offer support, advice and a smack up the side of the head when
necessary. I finish week 48 on Tuesday and if it were not for the fine
folks in this group such as Sara, Elmo, KJ, Dort, Greyhackles, Russ,
Eileen, Thip,Stretch, Dwight, Thomas, Canadave, Waterspider and many
many more (too brain fogged to remember) Everyone in here has something
to offer. If you are taking treatment you might want to hang in here and
it will help you. We do overlook riba rages!
Mags
life is the positive point
Sara wrote:
And who are you to judge this group from the few posts you have read?
and for what it's worth, Elmo is one of the MOST caring folks in this
group -- and if you read his stuff for a while you'll see how much he
really does care about ALL of us. He's our rock. He keeps us laughing.
Laughing is a good thing :) He has a way of making fun of himself and of
us, that makes us realize what is really important in this life.
Sara
<silkunicorn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156004399.727241.62380@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Well, you are sure full of positive feelings, love and caring. The way
you response to my post, I just wonder how caring are you! And don't
forget, this is a free country, if I want to come to any forum, I'm
free to do so. AND, if I want to express any of my opinion, I'm free to
do so as well. Why are you to judge me!
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
Any Poisitive Points?
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 9:32pm
(CDT-2)
From: silkunicorn@gmail.com
Hi, I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
comments. All the side effects, aching bones and feeling sick. It just
made me more depressed and it's not my intention to come to this forum.
    Doesn't anyone has any positive things to say about
Neupogen, how
much it has helped you, etc.? Aren't we supposed to cheer each other up
instead of making others feel depressed? Thomas
//////////////
Wellllll....if it wasn't your 'intention', then why in the hell are you
here? You accidently typed a message and hit the wrong button and sent
it? :-)
If the posts in this forum make you depressed, then you need a good
anti-d.
This place is full of love and a source of great support, as well as a
reservoir of information and experience you won't find anywhere else.
Quit complaining and sit down and listen for awhile.
Neupogen is good. :-)
elmo
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Cactus Jammies - 20 Aug 2006 16:29 GMT
Please Elmo, not in the same sentence!
cj ============

Don't forget CJ and Doogie Doo!!
elmo
//////////
mags - 20 Aug 2006 21:14 GMT
See I needed a slap up the side of the head - thanks Elmo and sorry CJ
and Doogie doo!

Mags
is it Tuesday yet

> Please Elmo, not in the same sentence!
> cj ============
>
> Don't forget CJ and Doogie Doo!!
> elmo
> //////////
dt12 - 22 Aug 2006 05:15 GMT
> See I needed a slap up the side of the head - thanks Elmo and sorry CJ
> and Doogie doo!
>
> Mags
> is it Tuesday yet

that's okay mags,  got my fingers crossed for you.    doogie doo
dt12 - 21 Aug 2006 05:03 GMT
> Please Elmo, not in the same sentence!
> cj ============

sacre bleu,  pepe le peu!  don't boof in my direction     doogie
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 21 Aug 2006 13:10 GMT
Aw..... c'mon, CJ.  You know you love Doogie too.  The guy's got a heart
of gold. elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 20 Aug 2006 15:30 GMT
He's our rock.
Sara
//////////
Is that why they tell me I've got rocks in my head?
elmo
stoned

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Paul - 26 Aug 2006 17:43 GMT
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:54:25 -0400, "Sara" <puffler@wowway.com>, in
message ID <PfSdnQ8Ng7ja33rZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@wideopenwest.com>, in the
newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>And who are you to judge this group from the few posts you have
>read?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>making fun of himself and of us, that makes us realize what is
>really important in this life.

Too right.  Elmo is so caring that he goes into old peoples' homes and
gives viagra to the old men so they don't roll out of bed.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 27 Aug 2006 13:15 GMT
Re: Any Poisitive Points?  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 5:43pm (CDT+6)
From: dontspamme@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk (Paul)
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:54:25 -0400, "Sara" <puffler@wowway.com>, in
message ID <PfSdnQ8Ng7ja33rZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@wideopenwest.com>, in the
newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
And who are you to judge this group from the few posts you have read?
and for what it's worth, Elmo is one of the MOST caring folks in this
group -- and if you read his stuff for a while you'll see how much he
really does care about ALL of us. He's our rock. He keeps us laughing.
Laughing is a good thing :) He has a way of making fun of himself and of
us, that makes us realize what is really important in this life.
Too right. Elmo is so caring that he goes into old peoples' homes and
gives viagra to the old men so they don't roll out of bed.  
/////////
Yep....I still haven't figured out how to keep the little old ladies in
bed, tho.  Maybe get em each a 'strap on' and make em wear it.  :-)
elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 19 Aug 2006 18:08 GMT
I was merely giving my opinion on your negative comments that you really
didn't intend to post in our forum and that we depressed you.  Like you
said,  it's a free country and you can post negative comments anywhere
you like.  
Anyway, I empathize with you that the Neupogen is making your bones
ache.  I  never had to do the stuff, but I've done quite a bit of
Procrit.  You are fortunate to have the opportunity to get Neupogen,
that it will hopefully help you enough that your doc won't reduce your
tx drug dosages and you'll get your SVR.  Welcome to the forum.  Got
your toga on?
elmo
///////////
Well, you are sure full of positive feelings, love and caring. The way
you response to my post, I just wonder how caring are you! And don't
forget, this is a free country, if I want to come to any forum, I'm free
to do so. AND, if I want to express any of my opinion, I'm free to do so
as well. Why are you to judge me!
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
Any Poisitive Points?
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 9:32pm (CDT-2)
From: silkunicorn@gmail.com
Hi, I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
comments. All the side effects, aching bones and feeling sick. It just
made me more depressed and it's not my intention to come to this forum.
    Doesn't anyone has any positive things to say about
Neupogen, how much it has helped you, etc.? Aren't we supposed to cheer
each other up instead of making others feel depressed? Thomas
//////////////
Wellllll....if it wasn't your 'intention', then why in the hell are you
here? You accidently typed a message and hit the wrong button and sent
it? :-)
If the posts in this forum make you depressed, then you need a good
anti-d.
This place is full of love and a source of great support, as well as a
reservoir of information and experience you won't find anywhere else.
Quit complaining and sit down and listen for awhile.
Neupogen is good. :-)
elmo
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
kjoh - 19 Aug 2006 18:38 GMT
Yeah, what they said.
Show us your unicorn.

kj
Barbara - 19 Aug 2006 17:51 GMT
I don't even know what Neupogen is, so I can't answer that but I can answer
why you are seeing "negative" commnets. It's mostly because, I am new here
and not on tx and have been asking a lot of questions about side effects and
these good people are answering me with their honesty and yes, their
compassion and encouragement. The side effects do sound depressing but the
fact remains they are there but these people have pulled through it and I
believe should I take tx, they would help me through it.
I wish you the best in your tx.

Barbara

> Hi,  I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
> to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thomas
Di Di - 19 Aug 2006 17:52 GMT
> Hi,  I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
> to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thomas

Hey Thomas - I'm on neupogen and I usually feel bad after the first
shot of hte week, but not the second (go figure), but my doc doesn't
even think my feeling bad is from the neupogen (and my friends that are
nurses say it's not supposed to make you feel bad). It should make you
feel better when your white count gets more normalized. It's not as bad
as the interferon that's for sure.

Someone mentioned that the needles suck for the neupogen and I agree. I
got these things that you put into the neupogen bottle (instead of
using the needle to draw it out) and then draw the med up into the
syringe with it and then put the needle on. It's called a "interlink
vial access cannula", so see if you can get those. The other thing  is
it hurts more to inject (at least for me), I think because it's thick,
so I found out you're supposed to inject it real slow - up to a minute
and a half - and that makes it not hurt. I did it that way last night
and it was  much, much better.

The positive thing about neupogen is it will get your white count up
and you should feel better or at least you won't get some other
infection because your white blood cells can't fight off infection.  I
think it's a good thing.
Ally - 19 Aug 2006 18:09 GMT
The other thing  is
> it hurts more to inject (at least for me), I think because it's thick,
> so I found out you're supposed to inject it real slow - up to a minute
> and a half - and that makes it not hurt. I did it that way last night
> and it was  much, much better.

Yeah, it stings that is for sure! Thanks for the tip, I am going to
give it a try on Monday. I didn't realize it was thicker, I figured it
was because I was injecting a full ml. The aranesp hurts too but
nothing like the Neup.

Ally
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 19 Aug 2006 18:37 GMT
Re: Any Poisitive Points?  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 10:09am (CDT-2)
From: 4thMoon@gmail.com (Ally)
Di Di wrote:
The other thing is
it hurts more to inject (at least for me), I think because it's thick,
so I found out you're supposed to inject it real slow - up to a minute
and a half - and that makes it not hurt. I did it that way last night
and it was much, much better.
Yeah, it stings that is for sure! Thanks for the tip, I am going to give
it a try on Monday. I didn't realize it was thicker, I figured it was
because I was injecting a full ml. The aranesp hurts too but nothing
like the Neup.
Ally
////////
Perhaps if after you draw up your injection, you let it warm up really
well by rolling the syringe back and forth in the palms of your hands
for a minute, it won't sting quite as much when you inject it.  Give it
a try....what a ya have to lose?
elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Ally - 19 Aug 2006 19:13 GMT
> Perhaps if after you draw up your injection, you let it warm up really
> well by rolling the syringe back and forth in the palms of your hands
> for a minute, it won't sting quite as much when you inject it.  Give it
> a try....what a ya have to lose?
> elmo

Thanks Elmo, I will definitley give that a try too. So on Monday I'll
be rolling, warming and waiting, lol. ;-)

Ally
Di Di - 19 Aug 2006 21:33 GMT
> The other thing  is
> > it hurts more to inject (at least for me), I think because it's thick,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Ally

Ally - I was thinking it was thicker when I first injected it, cuz I
had such a hard time getting those damn bubbles out of the syringe. But
my best friend is a nurse who works in an outpatient treatment center
(and she injects stuff like neupogen) and she just told me last night
to do it real slow, that where she works, they go by what the patient
tells them - if it hurts, they go even slower.  We were trying to do it
fast to get it over with!

Di
Michael Arends - 20 Aug 2006 17:17 GMT
Smiling Wickedly,  silkunicorn@gmail.com answered:
> Hi,  I have just started Neupogen and will be on 3 times a week. I came
> to this forum to find more information but mostly I found are negative
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thomas

Thomas, I don't have any experience with neupogen, but I will say this.

Everything I went through, was worth it.  I was a genotype 3a, and
should have done the 24 week regimen. BUT, unfortunately I was a slow
responder, and didn't clear at 24 weeks.

 That being said, apparently I have a BCLD that has a brain, and he
said "what the f.ck, I know you can do it mike" and he had me continue
for the whole 48 weeks. Actually because of sheduling snafu's I actually
did 52 weeks of the sh.t.

Not only did I clear, I got my SVR, and am now feeling GREAT. Don't get
me wrong, I have some ups and downs, every so often I feel run down etc..

I'm thinking it may STILL be my Immune system recovering from all the
TX meds pumped into me. After all, they STILL don't really know what
exactly ALL the things that stuff does to us.

I guess my point being... Don't be afraid, you can do it.
and once completed, you'll be glad you did.
Signature

*..· ´¨¨))
    ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
  ((¸¸.·´  .·´-:¦:-((¸¸.·´(º·.¸(¨*·.¸  ¸.·*¨)¸.·º)
                            «.·°·. Michael .·°·-:¦:-

 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.