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anonymousone - 13 Jun 2006 18:28 GMT
Any good articles on this anywhere?

I think I may have been experiencing some of this.
Burke Gilman - 13 Jun 2006 18:48 GMT
The only reason you thing that is cause yer all messed up. Now go f*ck
yerself!

I'm so glad that I'm not irritiable from the Riba, but some people have
disagreed. May they rest in peace.

BG

> Any good articles on this anywhere?
>
> I think I may have been experiencing some of this.
Waterspider - 13 Jun 2006 19:52 GMT
> The only reason you thing that is cause yer all messed up. Now go f*ck
> yerself!
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>>
>> I think I may have been experiencing some of this.

LOL @ BG!
Cactus Jammies - 13 Jun 2006 19:54 GMT
tee hee hee

cj------------

> The only reason you thing that is cause yer all messed up. Now go f*ck
> yerself!
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>>
>> I think I may have been experiencing some of this.
Kozure Ookami - 14 Jun 2006 04:54 GMT
>Any good articles on this anywhere?
>
>I think I may have been experiencing some of this.

Well I don't know about any articles but I imagine quite a few of us
around here could have written some.  Riba rage has a nice ring to it
but I don't really know for sure whether it is the riba or interferon
or both that messes with your emotions.  I do know that something does
because I sure got cranky about the time I started feeling the
fatigue.  Probably about 8 weeks into treatment.  And I got more
irritable as time went on and eventually became depressed.  That stuff
sure messed with my emotions.  I remember stopping in a Pizza place to
grab a slice and on tv is the olympics and the home town favorite is
some woman from Greece who wins her race.  I was just so happy for her
I guess I burst into tears and the next thing I notice people are kind
of staring at me.  Towards the end of tx my outlook on life was grim.
Glad that sh.t is over.

Don
pajaritaflora - 14 Jun 2006 10:43 GMT
> >Any good articles on this anywhere?
> >
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>
> Don

Kozure is right on if you search through the history of this roup you
will find somepretty wild stuff about riba rage....have fun....be
carefulllll. ....I brought flowers to some people I had really driven
crazy during it all.

Mary Ann
Paul - 14 Jun 2006 12:39 GMT
On 14 Jun 2006 02:43:28 -0700, "pajaritaflora" <birdspeak@gmail.com>,

>Kozure is right on if you search through the history of this roup you
>will find somepretty wild stuff about riba rage....have fun....be
>carefulllll. ....I brought flowers to some people I had really driven
>crazy during it all.

Triffids??
pajaritaflora - 14 Jun 2006 20:59 GMT
> Triffids??

I don't get it.

mye
Cactus Jammies - 14 Jun 2006 22:00 GMT
google images

>> Triffids??
>
> I don't get it.
>
> mye
Paul - 14 Jun 2006 22:53 GMT
On 14 Jun 2006 12:59:16 -0700, "pajaritaflora" <birdspeak@gmail.com>,

>> Triffids??
>
>I don't get it.
>
>mye

Well they're not so funny wqhen you have to explain them :-)
A triffid was an alien plant in a well known sci-fi story that went
around harming people.
I just thought that someone who was riba raged might enjoy giving them
out.
Like I said, it doesn't seem so funny now  :-)

Now where did I put my lead balloon?  :-)
Cactus Jammies - 15 Jun 2006 00:10 GMT
Paul one of the pictures I saw was that they were disguising themselves as
Scotch Thistles gone to seed in a fallow field.  shades of homeland
conspiracy.  I think those ones were English and that fallow field was on
the outskirts of what used to be an east side london jungle on the thames,
battersea or something like that?  I wonder if they can swim to the West
coast of Canada, if they can, look out Waterspider.  Other pictures did not
conjure such frightening thoughts.  It's just a jump from the Gulf Islands
to the SeaTac area, too.  oh look out.  I know that from I've read in
(Bradbury?) that they don't like spreading along congested highways like
Canada One, so I will have to wait until they ride their pontoon boats up
the Columbia from Ft. Astoria.  before I grab them for my plant presses.
batten the hatches jenny!

I bet Avian flu mutations will probably soften up the populace first,
overtaxing the strained heathcare system and making a lot of people not want
to go to work.  and the 4% of the population in hep rage or tx rage that
would turn them into so much cole slaw with prickles and teeth.

back to tie dye

cactus jammies (tucked into a gap between the Monashees and the Purcells.)

> On 14 Jun 2006 12:59:16 -0700, "pajaritaflora" <birdspeak@gmail.com>,
>
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>
> Now where did I put my lead balloon?  :-)
Jack Black - 20 Jun 2006 09:34 GMT
know that from I've read in (Bradbury?)

John Wyndham I think. Day of the Triffids.

Jack
> Paul one of the pictures I saw was that they were disguising themselves as
> Scotch Thistles gone to seed in a fallow field.  shades of homeland
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>>
>> Now where did I put my lead balloon?  :-)
Cactus Jammies - 20 Jun 2006 14:51 GMT
ya, but the images burn bright in my google, I tell ya.  them damn truffles.

cactus jammies      pretender to great wisdom
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> know that from I've read in (Bradbury?)
>
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>>>
>>> Now where did I put my lead balloon?  :-)
pajaritaflora - 15 Jun 2006 01:59 GMT
> On 14 Jun 2006 12:59:16 -0700, "pajaritaflora" <birdspeak@gmail.com>,
>
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>
> Now where did I put my lead balloon?  :-)

Oh now I remember! thanks Paul it was worth it.
Dwight - 15 Jun 2006 05:02 GMT
It's OK Paul, I remember "The Day Of The Triffids". :)

Dwight

> On 14 Jun 2006 12:59:16 -0700, "pajaritaflora" <birdspeak@gmail.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Now where did I put my lead balloon?  :-)
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 14 Jun 2006 14:24 GMT
Yeah, I know 'riba rage'.  Obviously, it's the riba that causes it
(profound, eh?).  Interferon makes you crazy and the riba makes you
depressed and angry.  I found that I was the most rageful when I was the
most anemic.  The lack of oxygen to the brain and muscles makes you
dizzy, forgetful, confused and messes with your thought processes, as
well as gives your muscles that burning sensation you get when you hit
the wall as if running a marathon.  The fatigue is excruciating.
Combine all of the above and you get anger...riba rage.
Anti-depressants will help some, but keeping your labs from getting too
far off from normal will help even more.  I'm referring to anemia.
Procrit did wonders for my anemia and riba rage.  
Anyway, that's my slant on riba rage.
elmo
DO NOT punch the cop
ahahahahahahaha!!!

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http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Ally - 26 Jun 2006 23:42 GMT
Thank you for explaining this, it makes a lot of sense. I've been
sitting here pissed off at the world in general for the last two days,
warning my friends not to come by for fear of biting their heads off.
So I presume this will last till the end of tx, eh? Ah well, life could
be worse I guess or maybe it will be, lol, I've learned not to assume I
am going thru the worst.

Ally, grrrrrrrr

> Yeah, I know 'riba rage'.  Obviously, it's the riba that causes it
> (profound, eh?).  Interferon makes you crazy and the riba makes you
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>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Burke Gilman - 27 Jun 2006 00:18 GMT
> Thank you for explaining this, it makes a lot of sense. I've been
> sitting here pissed off at the world in general for the last two days,
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> >
> > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Ally,

I've gotten better at adapting to the emotional side effects as Tx goes
on. At least it seems to cause fewer problem now compared to first
couple months.

At first, one way I adapted was by turning away from the TV or radio
when content, especially political content, seemed to be eliciting a
most uncomfortable and reactive responses from my fried neuro-cognitive
system. Also, I found that avoiding tense interpersonal contacts to be
therapeutic whenever possible. Today, I pick and choose situations that
I will be involved with and I have the good fortune to be in regular
proximity to only a few people who have adjusted to my altered
temperament.

At the same time, I think a key adaptation I've made is to not take
myself so seriously. Considering the enormous importance I reasonably
and normally credit to my emotions, it's actually been only a small
sacrifice, proportionately, to just back the f.ck off a little bit and
give some quiet time to the miserable creeps with whom I am condemned
to share the world.

It's probably important to note, as a principle of prudent and sensible
health care, that mental gymnastics will NOT always attain the desired
and necessary results when it comes to mental issues associated with
IFN and Riba. As my care provider advised, if I find myself in a
depression or state of disabling irritability that I cannot seem to get
myself out of, then it will be prudent to see her for some
pharmaceutical intervention. As it is now, however, the last thing I
want is more drugs when all I need is more aluminum foil, munitions,
and tactical air support.

BG
Ally - 27 Jun 2006 04:39 GMT
> At first, one way I adapted was by turning away from the TV or radio
> when content, especially political content, seemed to be eliciting a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> proximity to only a few people who have adjusted to my altered
> temperament.

Yep, I dumped the newspapers awhile ago and noticed my TV watching has
been changing over the last couple of weeks. I record everything ahead
of time and for no reason I'll be like "oh screw it" and delete a whole
bunch of them because they irritate me. I mean, I couldn't give you a
reason why, just is. And good advice on the interpersonal contacts.
It's interesting which are becoming tense and which aren't all because
of this. Thankfully I am not mad at the cat!

> At the same time, I think a key adaptation I've made is to not take
> myself so seriously. Considering the enormous importance I reasonably
> and normally credit to my emotions, it's actually been only a small
> sacrifice, proportionately, to just back the f.ck off a little bit and
> give some quiet time to the miserable creeps with whom I am condemned
> to share the world.

Hmmmm, yeah, okay, more good advice. Better then thowing a chair at
them or something which is ideas that float thru my head at the time.
Ugh, and I was always such a nice person b4. I had someone nicely
telling me that I should just think about how worse off some other
people are and how much good this is doing and all that stuff and I
just wanted to scream at them, "what the hell do you know about it..."
but fortunately I withheld my comments to things like, "I don't really
care...". Eeps, now I KNOW I used to be nicer then that!

> It's probably important to note, as a principle of prudent and sensible
> health care, that mental gymnastics will NOT always attain the desired
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> want is more drugs when all I need is more aluminum foil, munitions,
> and tactical air support.

I do take an antidepressant though it seems not to help that much but
refuse at this point to take anymore. I can't imagine how much worse I
would feel if I wasn't on it though. For now, I will handle it as best
as I can. It was funny actually. I was at Panera's having a bagel and
reading minding my own business but in the back of my mind I kept
waiting for someone to come over and say something. See I have a full
body tattoo so people do tend to do that but like, I "wanted" someone
to pick a fight with me or something. Now NO one has critisized my tats
in a long time, they are usually compliments but no, I wanted a fight
and I NEVER fight, LOL., grrrrrrrrr. Oh my.......

Ally
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 27 Jun 2006 13:31 GMT

Re: Riba Rage  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Jun 26, 2006, 8:39pm (CDT-2)
From: 4thMoon@gmail.com (Ally)
Burke Gilman wrote:
At first, one way I adapted was by turning away from the TV or radio
when content, especially political content, seemed to be eliciting a
most uncomfortable and reactive responses from my fried neuro-cognitive
system. Also, I found that avoiding tense interpersonal contacts to be
therapeutic whenever possible. Today, I pick and choose situations that
I will be involved with and I have the good fortune to be in regular
proximity to only a few people who have adjusted to my altered
temperament.
Yep, I dumped the newspapers awhile ago and noticed my TV watching has
been changing over the last couple of weeks. I record everything ahead
of time and for no reason I'll be like "oh screw it" and delete a whole
bunch of them because they irritate me. I mean, I couldn't give you a
reason why, just is. And good advice on the interpersonal contacts. It's
interesting which are becoming tense and which aren't all because of
this. Thankfully I am not mad at the cat!
At the same time, I think a key adaptation I've made is to not take
myself so seriously. Considering the enormous importance I reasonably
and normally credit to my emotions, it's actually been only a small
sacrifice, proportionately, to just back the f.ck off a little bit and
give some quiet time to the miserable creeps with whom I am condemned to
share the world.
Hmmmm, yeah, okay, more good advice. Better then thowing a chair at them
or something which is ideas that float thru my head at the time. Ugh,
and I was always such a nice person b4. I had someone nicely telling me
that I should just think about how worse off some other people are and
how much good this is doing and all that stuff and I just wanted to
scream at them, "what the hell do you know about it..." but fortunately
I withheld my comments to things like, "I don't really care...". Eeps,
now I KNOW I used to be nicer then that!
It's probably important to note, as a principle of prudent and sensible
health care, that mental gymnastics will NOT always attain the desired
and necessary results when it comes to mental issues associated with IFN
and Riba. As my care provider advised, if I find myself in a depression
or state of disabling irritability that I cannot seem to get myself out
of, then it will be prudent to see her for some pharmaceutical
intervention. As it is now, however, the last thing I want is more drugs
when all I need is more aluminum foil, munitions, and tactical air
support.
I do take an antidepressant though it seems not to help that much but
refuse at this point to take anymore. I can't imagine how much worse I
would feel if I wasn't on it though. For now, I will handle it as best
as I can. It was funny actually. I was at Panera's having a bagel and
reading minding my own business but in the back of my mind I kept
waiting for someone to come over and say something. See I have a full
body tattoo so people do tend to do that but like, I "wanted" someone to
pick a fight with me or something. Now NO one has critisized my tats in
a long time, they are usually compliments but no, I wanted a fight and I
NEVER fight, LOL., grrrrrrrrr. Oh my.......
Ally
///////////
C'mon, Ally!  Show us your tattoo!  :-)
elmo

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http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Ally - 27 Jun 2006 15:05 GMT
> C'mon, Ally!  Show us your tattoo!  :-)
> elmo

http://album.atomic-systems.com/search.php
in search box type in: rainbowpride

That would be me, Ally aka Miss Tattoo
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 28 Jun 2006 13:21 GMT

Re: Riba Rage  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Jun 27, 2006, 7:05am (CDT-2)
From: 4thMoon@gmail.com (Ally)
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
C'mon, Ally! Show us your tattoo! :-)
elmo
http://album.atomic-systems.com/search.php in search box type in:
rainbowpride
That would be me, Ally aka Miss Tattoo
////////////
Wow!!!!  I'm speechless!!  :-)
elmo
tattooless in Missouri

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Abby - 29 Jun 2006 01:39 GMT
Rainbow Pride Rocks!!! Ally - I bet you had a million hits on your web
site! You and (and your tattoes) look beautiful!!  I know this is
probably a dumb question but I was wondering - are they permanent?  My
daughter has a few cute tattoes but I don't.  Peace & Love - Abby
> Re: Riba Rage
>
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>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 29 Jun 2006 14:09 GMT
I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
cheeks.  My mom will love it!!  And when I stand on my head, it'll say
'WOW'.  
elmo
//////////////
Rainbow Pride Rocks!!! Ally - I bet you had a million hits on your web
site! You and (and your tattoes) look beautiful!! I know this is
probably a dumb question but I was wondering - are they permanent? My
daughter has a few cute tattoes but I don't. Peace & Love - Abby
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
Re: Riba Rage
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Jun 27, 2006, 7:05am (CDT-2)
From: 4thMoon@gmail.com (Ally)
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
C'mon, Ally! Show us your tattoo! :-)
elmo
http://album.atomic-systems.com/search.php in search box type in:
rainbowpride
That would be me, Ally aka Miss Tattoo
////////////
Wow!!!! I'm speechless!! :-)
elmo
tattooless in Missouri
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Ally - 30 Jun 2006 13:46 GMT
> I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
> cheeks.  My mom will love it!!  And when I stand on my head, it'll say
> 'WOW'.
> elmo

LOLOLOL... thanks, I really needed the laugh this morning. :-D
Burke Gilman - 30 Jun 2006 19:27 GMT
> > I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
> > cheeks.  My mom will love it!!  And when I stand on my head, it'll say
> > 'WOW'.
> > elmo
>
> LOLOLOL... thanks, I really needed the laugh this morning. :-D

Did #14 last night. And I was thinking this thread is drifting a little
much. So get it together, you f.cking jerks.

BG
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Jul 2006 01:31 GMT

Re: Riba Rage  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 11:27am (CDT-2)
From: burkegilman@moxmail.net (Burke Gilman)
Ally wrote:
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
cheeks. My mom will love it!! And when I stand on my head, it'll say
'WOW'.
elmo
LOLOLOL... thanks, I really needed the laugh this morning. :-D
Did #14 last night. And I was thinking this thread is drifting a little
much. So get it together, you f.cking jerks.
BG
///////////
:-)

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http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Jul 2006 16:38 GMT
I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
cheeks. My mom will love it!! And when I stand on my head, it'll say
'WOW'.
elmo
//////////
LOLOLOL... thanks, I really needed the laugh this morning. :-D
Ally
////////////
Did #14 last night. And I was thinking this thread is drifting a little
much. So get it together, you f.cking jerks. BG
////
OH MY GOD!!!!  You did shot #14?  UT OH!!  That's the one where all your
hair falls out, your teeth turn green, your breath begins to smell like
buffalo farts, and you get uncontrollable diarrhea.  And if you think
#14 is bad, wait til you do #15!!  I'm not gonna tell you about that one
yet, it's THAT bad.  
Elmo    

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Burke Gilman - 01 Jul 2006 21:22 GMT
> I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
> cheeks. My mom will love it!! And when I stand on my head, it'll say
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> yet, it's THAT bad.
> Elmo

All that stuff about my hair turning green, and my teeth falling out,
and my diarrhea smelling like uncontrollable buffalo farts started last
week. So I guess I'm one week ahead of schedule... Oh my Gawd! It is
THAT BAD!!

HELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

-BG
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 02 Jul 2006 13:36 GMT

Re: Shot # 14?  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jul 1, 2006, 1:22pm (CDT-2)
From: burkegilman@moxmail.net (Burke Gilman)
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a large 'M' tattooed on each one of my butt
cheeks. My mom will love it!! And when I stand on my head, it'll say
'WOW'.
elmo
//////////
LOLOLOL... thanks, I really needed the laugh this morning. :-D
Ally
////////////
Did #14 last night. And I was thinking this thread is drifting a little
much. So get it together, you f.cking jerks. BG
////
OH MY GOD!!!! You did shot #14? UT OH!! That's the one where all your
hair falls out, your teeth turn green, your breath begins to smell like
buffalo farts, and you get uncontrollable diarrhea. And if you think #14
is bad, wait til you do #15!! I'm not gonna tell you about that one yet,
it's THAT bad.
Elmo
All that stuff about my hair turning green, and my teeth falling out,
and my diarrhea smelling like uncontrollable buffalo farts started last
week. So I guess I'm one week ahead of schedule... Oh my Gawd! It is
THAT BAD!!
HELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
-BG
////////
Ohhh, the horror!!  In your case, it's worse than I thot.  If you got
week #14's sides in week #13, week #15 is gonna be even worse than what
it was supposed to be.  Have the goat horns started growing from your
forehead yet?  
elmo
don't forget to eat the bananas  

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Ally - 29 Jun 2006 14:11 GMT
> Rainbow Pride Rocks!!! Ally - I bet you had a million hits on your web
> site! You and (and your tattoes) look beautiful!!  I know this is
> probably a dumb question but I was wondering - are they permanent?  My
> daughter has a few cute tattoes but I don't.  Peace & Love - Abby

Yes, they are are real and permanent. Long grueling hours under the gun
and, sad to say, many more till my back and arm are finished. Did you
know that many artists won't work on you if you have HepC but I am
fortunate enough to have one who will. And in case you are wondering,
this isn't how I got it, I was diagnosed long b4 I started this work.

Ally :)
dortski - 01 Jul 2006 00:58 GMT
As it is now, however, the last thing I
> want is more drugs when all I need is more aluminum foil, munitions,
> and tactical air support.
>
> BG

Burke...stop it your killing me! hahahahahaha!

dort
 
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