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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / April 2006Ribavirin and fat intake
I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? Captain Crunch? Does anyone have fat intake with their Reba? -Puckertoe >I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is >this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >-Puckertoe Along with doing every shot at the same time every week in the same room with the same gear, this was tantamount to religion for me: every friggin' handful of Riba went down with some high-fat content food. Even when food was the very *last* thing on my mind. Peanut butter became my friend of last resort. I ate a lot of peanut butter 8-| If you read the product literature that accompanies Ribavirin, you'll see the uptake improves 60-70% when taken with high fat foods. It should be a Must Do thing with every hepper on therapy. What kind? Geeze, never thought about it, just figured fat was fat. But I do know that sugar isn't fat - as much as we may enjoy both - Captain Crunch isn't going to do the trick. And does Mike know you're thinking about eating his fat? ;-) Cheers /greyhackles And does Mike know you're thinking about eating his fat? ;-) Cheers /greyhackles /////////// ahahahahahahah!! http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Smiling Wickedly, greyhackles answered: >> I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is >> this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > /greyhackles Hey, you can have ALL you want. LOL! when I was doing TX, if nothing else was available, I'd just east like a big tablespoon or 3, of Real Butter. Yuk.  Signature*..· ´¨¨)) ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ .·´-:¦:-((¸¸.·´(º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) «.·°·. Michael .·°·-:¦:- "Michael Arends" <mlarends@NODAMNSPAMearthlink.net> wrote > > when I was doing TX, if nothing else was available, I'd just east like a > big tablespoon or 3, of Real Butter. Yuk. I had variations in my pre-drug fat menu: I went from a chunk of cheddar cheese, to chocolate soy milk, to dried smoked Spanish Chorizo to olive oil in a shot glass. with a dash of Balsamic. Gobble it down, wait ten minutes then a-riba, a-riba, a-riba cactus jammies--------------------------------- I eat Cadbury chocolate with mine. Yeah any fat'll do whole milk is mostly fat. > I eat Cadbury chocolate with mine. Yeah any fat'll do whole milk is > mostly fat. Hey flifla...was wondering where and how you were. So how goes it kiddo? dort Thanks for asking Dort! Well, I am home now on leave unpaid until UnumProvident approves me for short term disability (however long that is) and taking it easy. Every week I have a new side and this week it's splitting headaches. How come some people breeze through tx and others have a hard time? It hasn't been easy for me at times > Thanks for asking Dort! Well, I am home now on leave unpaid until > UnumProvident approves me for short term disability (however long that > is) and taking it easy. Every week I have a new side and this week it's > splitting headaches. How come some people breeze through tx and others > have a hard time? It hasn't been easy for me at times Sorry to hear you are having a rough go of it. It does seem as if a new annoyance pops up every week. Now that you are off and able to take it easy you should do better. I hope you hear from Unum soon, having that on the back of you mind can't be helping! Did you get the paper work filled out at least? If so, it shouldn't take too long. Mine hasn't kicked in yet, because I have an a-hole gastro. I had to go through my primary care doc and he said it may take him a week to get to it. Meanwhile I am trying to get well and going broke.If it ain't one thing it's another! I remember those splitting headaches...the only thing that helps was laying in a dark room with ice packs on my head...lol. Take care kiddo.... dort Tee hee thanks..yes my gastro filled out the forms no problem. She is very nice. > I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is > this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -Puckertoe Hey Puck....yes it's been mentioned here in several post that fat help with absorption of riba. What kind depends on you. If you have cholesterol issues you may want to choose healthy fats. I took mine with whole milk or a slice of toast with extra cruchy peanut butter. dort Re: Ribavirin and fat intake Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 2:25am (CDT+5) From: dwilde1@austin.rr.com (dortski) "Puckertoe" <matthew@dontspamme.puckertoe.com> wrote in message news:1240kn9h6i3o61@corp.supernews.com... I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? Captain Crunch? Does anyone have fat intake with their Reba? -Puckertoe Hey Puck....yes it's been mentioned here in several post that fat help with absorption of riba. What kind depends on you. If you have cholesterol issues you may want to choose healthy fats. I took mine with whole milk or a slice of toast with extra cruchy peanut butter. dort ////////// ooooohhh! x-tra crunch peanut bugger. yummmmmm elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Ribavirin and fat intake Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 7:01pm (CDT-2) From: matthew@dontspamme.puckertoe.com (Puckertoe) I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? Captain Crunch? Does anyone have fat intake with their Reba? -Puckertoe /////////// If you don't eat something with fat in it when you take your riba, approximately 40% of the riba will NOT be absorbed. Whole milk is good....so is peanut butter. It doesn't really matter whether it's animal or plant fats...as long as you get some. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is > this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -Puckertoe The info I have is that taking riba w/fat increases the absorbtion of the riba. Here are some tips for healthy fat intake.... Stay away from "saturated" fat, (animal fats, whole dairy products, shortening/Lard). Good sources of "monounsaturated" fat are, any vegetable fats like olives,seeds,nuts and unprocessed nut butters, avacodos are excellent sources of veg fat. Also look out for "transfatty acids" any product that contains "hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oil" contains TFA's. You want to stay away from them they are the worst for you.... Hope that helps.....ChefX About all I could handle in the morning was a can of Slimfast blended with a banana, something to swallow the morning pills with... SignatureRuss http://www.tannersacre.com > I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. > Is this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -Puckertoe I've been on a fat-restricted, lowered calorie diet since before I started treatment, which commenced almost four weeks ago. To ensure my fat intake contains high-quality essential fatty acids, I've been taking a couple tablespoons of flaxseed oil daily. Now that I've learned ribavirin uptake is probably increased when the drug is ingested with fats, I plan to take my flaxseed oil when I administer the ribavirin, in order to maximize serum ribavirin levels. If urticaria becomes a problem exacerbated by increased serum ribavirin levels, I plan to reach for Benadryl and see how that works out. > I've been on a fat-restricted, lowered calorie diet since before I > started treatment, which commenced almost four weeks ago. To ensure my [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If urticaria becomes a problem exacerbated by increased serum ribavirin > levels, I plan to reach for Benadryl and see how that works out. Well that sounds good to me! I suspect only Greyhackles and a select few will understand that last sentence. I sure didn't, but if Benadyl helps it...well that sounds good too! You sound like you've got it aced! Keep it up! dort >> I've been on a fat-restricted, lowered calorie diet since before I >> started treatment, which commenced almost four weeks ago. To ensure my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >dort Urticaria is a $5 word meaning "hives". Not to trivialize it - there are many causes of hives, including unknown causes (so to speak - it's one of the most poorly root-caused symptoms out there) and hives can appear by degree from barely noticeable to freakishly livid. At the core, they're all caused by the same : fluid leaking out of the blood stream and pooling within tissue. I had a wicked attack of urticaria on Memorial Day weekend in 1999 - two days after I left one company for a new job starting the day after Memorial Day). It was alarmingly similar to a heart attack, except the wicked hives made me look quite unearthly, so I got yet another ride in an ambulance to an e-room. After pumping me full of nitro just in case, the doctors said the ekg and blood chemistry ruled out a heart attack (but put me on the damned tread mill the next day to confirm) and they attributed the entire event it to stress/anxiety/etc. To this day I suspect it more likely had something to do with HCV. Since that weekend I take histamine agonists (hydroxazine hcl and cimetidine) daily. I haven't had another hive attack since '99 (but then I haven't seen any elephants around, either ;-) With the SVR, I'm interested in seeing if I can some time in the near future try to taper off these drugs as they aren't without some side effects of their own. Anyway (wordy bugger tonite, eh? ;-) I also didn't have any hives while on the daily 1400mg of Riba for 48 weeks. Whether that's attributable to being on the maintenance drugs, or simply that Riba doesn't aggravate an urticaria-prone condition, or just dumb luck, I cannot say. Cheers /greyhackles > >> I've been on a fat-restricted, lowered calorie diet since before I > >> started treatment, which commenced almost four weeks ago. To ensure my [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > /greyhackles I like you being wordy...you sound happy! You've been that smart guy of a few words, for so long, it's nice to see the wordy happy Grey. You're even getting your happy hair back! That's interesting about the panic attack. That's how I found out I had HCV. Major panic attack, had an ekg done, came back as abnormal and nothing was ever done to investigate why. You have the ekg done, and blood work come back normal and they slap you on that damn treadmill...go figure. I was wondering about this low cholesterol thing and HCV. At the time I found out I had the antibodies for HCV, I found out my cholesterol was real bad. So ya think I might end up having that heart attack now that I am off meds and clear?...lol!! Seriously, it's good to hear from you and to get to know you a little better. Thanks for sharing all the wonderful information and clarifying a bunch of technical mumbo jumbo for me and now the little bit of history. For the longest time I always pictured you as this stoic wizard....lol! dort Umm.. hydroxazine hcl and cimetidine... those would be histamine antagonists (rather than agonists), wouldn't they? Btw, congrats on the SVR. -- BG in Seattle >Umm.. hydroxazine hcl and cimetidine... those would be histamine >antagonists (rather than agonists), wouldn't they? Rats! Yes, of course you are correct, I totally dumb-thumbed it. I hate it when I do that! ;-) >Btw, congrats on the SVR. > >-- BG in Seattle Thanks very much. In a few more days I might be able to get comfortable with the concept :-) Cheers. Now go kick that virus square in the nuts! /greyhackles Hi Puckertoe, I was told to eat cheese and peanut butter and anything fatty i could with reba..........happy weight gain......john I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? Captain Crunch? Does anyone have fat intake with their Reba? -Puckertoe Hi Puckertoe, I was told to eat cheese and peanut butter and anything fatty i could with reba..........happy weight gain......john I've heard that fat intake with your Riba dosage can increase absorption. Is this true? If so what kind of fat would be good to have? Mike fat? Sugar? Captain Crunch? Does anyone have fat intake with their Reba? -Puckertoe Hi Puckertoe, I was told to eat cheese and peanut butter and anything fatty i could with reba..........happy weight gain......john |
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