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Sara - 06 Mar 2006 16:08 GMT
Ok Spidey, and/or anyone else who might care.

I'll try one last time, though I don't understand how my words
got so twisted and misinterpreted.

First, Cody posts a link to a website that he thinks is funny and
that others in this group would enjoy.

Folks, trusting Cody, click on that link and are taken to this
website where there's a parody of a gay Jesus sashaying thru the
streets singing "I will survive", only to be taken out by a bus.

Some folks felt sucker-punched by this video -- they expected
humor and got their belief system slammed instead.   Imagine
yourself in their position -- you don't have to agree with their
beliefs, but you should be able to respect their right to those
beliefs enough to understand why they'd be upset about Cody
posting this link to begin with.

These folks react to that post, protesting the act, and asking
that he refrain from doing that again.  Does he say "oops, you're
right, I was being insensitive and I'm sorry.  I'll try to be
more careful"?    yeah right.   NO, instead, he defends his
actions and states that he'll do what he wants and the hell with
other folks feelings.  Others pipe up, "geeze, what's wrong with
you?  that video was FUNNY"...  invalidating the honest reaction
some folks had to that video.  More protests garner more negative
response from the support group, defending/enabling Cody's
initial action.

So, not only did you all make it "ok" for Cody to do and say
anything he wants, you defended his actions by telling the
protestors that THEY were wrong to protest, and they needed to
get a sense of humor.   Not to mention that anyone (me) who
protested the action in general got painted with the 'religious
zealot' brush whether they were speaking from a religious
viewpoint or not.

MY objections are not that they made fun of Christians.  My
objection is that a very special, wonderful member of this group
got hurt by trusting another member of this group and going to a
website for a bit of humor, and got kicked in the head by a
stupid video that attacked the very thing that is getting her
through a very tough point in her life.  And everyone here seems
to think that's OK.

Paul made a point about sharing a sexist joke making fun of
Nurses and how if he was to worry about everyone's feelings about
these things that he could never share these "funny" jokes.  Er,
sorry Paul but that's exactly the point.  Many of us don't think
that's acceptable material to be sharing in this newsgroup.  If
we stop and think before we share something that may be offensive
or hurtful, maybe there will be a lot less hurt feelings and a
lot more trust.

I don't want to fight with anyone.  I'm disappointed that my
attempt to communicate something important to me was met with
such derision and misundertanding.  I'm disappointed that the
heads in this group that I considered the coolest and most able
to access a situation and understand someone's concerns
misinterpreted what I tried to say....  I'm also very
disappointed that my concerns have been dismissed as emotional
over-reactions and trivialized the way they were.

mostly I'm just appalled that you all think it was 'ok' for Cody
to share that video to begin with.  He had to know that some
folks were going to be very upset with it.  And if he really had
his head so far up his a.s that he didn't realize it, at the very
least he could be accountable and apologize to the folks that he
hurt, instead of spewing more ugliness trying to defend his
behavior.

I know I'm spinning my wheels and wasting my efforts here :)  But
Spidey and Paul did comment and I hope they understand a bit
better where I am coming from.

Sara
Cody - 06 Mar 2006 16:36 GMT
I don't want to fight with anyone. <<<

Then drop it.

Cody

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Sara - 06 Mar 2006 16:54 GMT
> I don't want to fight with anyone. <<<
>
> Then drop it.
>
> Cody

yes, your highness.

I hear and obey.
Cody - 06 Mar 2006 17:18 GMT
>> I don't want to fight with anyone. <<<
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I hear and obey.

Now, that's more like it! <vbg>

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Gordo Mondragon - 06 Mar 2006 18:32 GMT
[...]

> My
> objection is that a very special, wonderful member of this group
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> through a very tough point in her life.  And everyone here seems
> to think that's OK.

That's a highly unfair characterization.  I think that most people are
struggling with the conflict between the hurt that someone expressed and
what can be reasonably done about it.

My personal take on it is that I'm sorry she felt hurt, that I'm willing
to accommodate other people's beliefs and have actively worked to do
that here, but that what she and you are asking for is beyond
accommodation and respect, it's strict adherence to specific religious
rules.

That, I think, is an unreasonable request.  I can be saddened that
someone is hurt when these requests are not met but I think that because
of the unreasonableness the hurt is not my responsibility.

> If
> we stop and think before we share something that may be offensive
> or hurtful, maybe there will be a lot less hurt feelings and a
> lot more trust.

Because this group is so diverse it's not possible to always know what's
going to offend someone, so the only thing to do to get what you want is
to not post anything but technical information.  

The reality is that to get the sort of overall supportive environment
that has done a lot of people a lot of good here you can't be that
restrictive.  You're going to have to accept that someone, sometime, is
going to post something that's going to piss you off unintentionally.

[...]

> mostly I'm just appalled that you all think it was 'ok' for Cody
> to share that video to begin with.  He had to know that some
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> hurt, instead of spewing more ugliness trying to defend his
> behavior.

Well, there you go.  If he's not following the the strict religious
rules of a religion he doesn't believe in and may not know the strict
rules for, he's got his head far up his a.s.

If that's not what you meant, please tell me what I've misunderstood.

Gordo
Mom - 06 Mar 2006 18:56 GMT
> [...]
>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
> Gordo

Gordo,

I love your posts. I often sift through the other's to read yours. Maybe our
beliefs are simply similar but you have way of articulating yours in a way
that is very unbiased, to the point, and without ridicule or criticism.
Thanks.

Mom
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 06 Mar 2006 21:22 GMT

Re: It's not about religion  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2006, 1:56pm (CST+1)
From: mom@nospamplease.net (Mom)
"Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ga_mondragon-692EE2.13325706032006@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
In article <ecqdnR10EfiqwpHZRVn-pw@wideopenwest.com>, "Sara"
<puffler@wowway.com> wrote:
[...]
My
objection is that a very special, wonderful member of this group got
hurt by trusting another member of this group and going to a website for
a bit of humor, and got kicked in the head by a stupid video that
attacked the very thing that is getting her through a very tough point
in her life. And everyone here seems to think that's OK.
That's a highly unfair characterization. I think that most people are
struggling with the conflict between the hurt that someone expressed and
what can be reasonably done about it.
My personal take on it is that I'm sorry she felt hurt, that I'm willing
to accommodate other people's beliefs and have actively worked to do
that here, but that what she and you are asking for is beyond
accommodation and respect, it's strict adherence to specific religious
rules.
That, I think, is an unreasonable request. I can be saddened that
someone is hurt when these requests are not met but I think that because
of the unreasonableness the hurt is not my responsibility.
If
we stop and think before we share something that may be offensive or
hurtful, maybe there will be a lot less hurt feelings and a lot more
trust.
Because this group is so diverse it's not possible to always know what's
going to offend someone, so the only thing to do to get what you want is
to not post anything but technical information.
The reality is that to get the sort of overall supportive environment
that has done a lot of people a lot of good here you can't be that
restrictive. You're going to have to accept that someone, sometime, is
going to post something that's going to piss you off unintentionally.
[...]
mostly I'm just appalled that you all think it was 'ok' for Cody to
share that video to begin with. He had to know that some folks were
going to be very upset with it. And if he really had his head so far up
his a.s that he didn't realize it, at the very least he could be
accountable and apologize to the folks that he hurt, instead of spewing
more ugliness trying to defend his behavior.
Well, there you go. If he's not following the the strict religious rules
of a religion he doesn't believe in and may not know the strict rules
for, he's got his head far up his a.s.
If that's not what you meant, please tell me what I've misunderstood.
Gordo
Gordo,
I love your posts. I often sift through the other's to read yours. Maybe
our beliefs are simply similar but you have way of articulating yours in
a way that is very unbiased, to the point, and without ridicule or
criticism. Thanks.
Mom
///////////////
So you don't read my posts, eh?  :-)
elmo

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Mom - 06 Mar 2006 22:05 GMT
> Re: It's not about religion
>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> So you don't read my posts, eh?  :-)
> elmo

Who loves ya baby?

Mom

> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2006 04:28 GMT

Re: It's not about religion  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2006, 5:05pm (CST+1)
From: mom@nospamplease.net (Mom)
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21272-440CA81D-174@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
Re: It's not about religion
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2006, 1:56pm (CST+1)
From: mom@nospamplease.net (Mom)
"Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ga_mondragon-692EE2.13325706032006@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... In
article <ecqdnR10EfiqwpHZRVn-pw@wideopenwest.com>, "Sara"
<puffler@wowway.com> wrote:
[...]
My
objection is that a very special, wonderful member of this group got
hurt by trusting another member of this group and going to a website for
a bit of humor, and got kicked in the head by a stupid video that
attacked the very thing that is getting her through a very tough point
in her life. And everyone here seems to think that's OK. That's a highly
unfair characterization. I think that most people are struggling with
the conflict between the hurt that someone expressed and what can be
reasonably done about it.
My personal take on it is that I'm sorry she felt hurt, that I'm willing
to accommodate other people's beliefs and have actively worked to do
that here, but that what she and you are asking for is beyond
accommodation and respect, it's strict adherence to specific religious
rules.
That, I think, is an unreasonable request. I can be saddened that
someone is hurt when these requests are not met but I think that because
of the unreasonableness the hurt is not my responsibility. If
we stop and think before we share something that may be offensive or
hurtful, maybe there will be a lot less hurt feelings and a lot more
trust.
Because this group is so diverse it's not possible to always know what's
going to offend someone, so the only thing to do to get what you want is
to not post anything but technical information. The reality is that to
get the sort of overall supportive environment that has done a lot of
people a lot of good here you can't be that restrictive. You're going to
have to accept that someone, sometime, is going to post something that's
going to piss you off unintentionally.
[...]
mostly I'm just appalled that you all think it was 'ok' for Cody to
share that video to begin with. He had to know that some folks were
going to be very upset with it. And if he really had his head so far up
his a.s that he didn't realize it, at the very least he could be
accountable and apologize to the folks that he hurt, instead of spewing
more ugliness trying to defend his behavior. Well, there you go. If he's
not following the the strict religious rules of a religion he doesn't
believe in and may not know the strict rules for, he's got his head far
up his a.s.
If that's not what you meant, please tell me what I've misunderstood.
Gordo
Gordo,
I love your posts. I often sift through the other's to read yours. Maybe
our beliefs are simply similar but you have way of articulating yours in
a way that is very unbiased, to the point, and without ridicule or
criticism. Thanks.
Mom
///////////////
So you don't read my posts, eh? :-)
elmo
Who loves ya baby?
Mom
/////////////////
My left nut just started twitching!  hehe
ILYM  ahahahahaha!!!!!!
elmo  

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Waterspider - 06 Mar 2006 20:30 GMT
> Ok Spidey, and/or anyone else who might care.

<snippage to get to the point>
> I don't understand how my words got so twisted and misinterpreted.
> (me) who got painted with the 'religious zealot' brush MY objections.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I'm just appalled that you all think it was 'ok'  I know I'm spinning my
> wheels and wasting my efforts

Okay, Sara...

Lots of complaints from you about your experience here, so here's my
complaint:
This group isn't about you, and it isn't about good manners.
Your whining that somebody else got a good laugh out of something offensive
to you is making *everyone* uncomfortable.
You've ignored every reasonable, positive post on the subject.
It reminds me how much I detest this Christian superiority moral majority
bullshit that you're peddling.
People here shouldn't have to pretend they're walking on eggshells, worried
that someone is analyzing every post, trying to find something to be
offended by.
Get over it.

WS
<running out of patience>
Sara - 06 Mar 2006 21:02 GMT
Ya know Spidey, the one fact that everyone keeps attributing to
me that just isn't so is the "so called Christian Morality"
issue.

My concerns are about human decency.  period.  About treating
fellow human beings with the respect they deserve.

If Cody worked at Ford Motor company, or ANY major company in the
US, and posted that on the internet for fellow employees to 'get
a chuckle' from, he'd be severly disciplined, if not fired.  It's
just NOT acceptable social behavior in any place that I want to
be a part of.

Wondering what happens when you totally lose your patience :)
but, honestly, not sticking around to find out.  you guys have
finally totally alienated me, I'm gone.  I'll stress over issues
that matter, thanks anyway.

Sara

p.s.   I thought the whole idea of a support group is that it IS
all about me.... and you... and each individual who joins that
group and contributes.  WE are supposed to be equals, there to
give and receive support for the problem we have in common.
Sadly, the ASH-C group seems to be about a select few individuals
who think they should make the rules and decide who gets to
belong to the group and who doesn't.   I left this kind of
juvenile crap behind in junior high, and I have NO desire to
revisit it.  In Gordo's immortal words, "So Long".

>> Ok Spidey, and/or anyone else who might care.
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> WS
> <running out of patience>
Thip - 06 Mar 2006 21:36 GMT
> Wondering what happens when you totally lose your patience :)
> but, honestly, not sticking around to find out.  you guys have finally
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> of juvenile crap behind in junior high, and I have NO desire to revisit
> it.  In Gordo's immortal words, "So Long".

Hold the door, I'm right behind you.

Love you all, and thanks for the support and help you've given me over the
years.
dortski - 06 Mar 2006 23:00 GMT
>> Hold the door, I'm right behind you.
>
> Love you all, and thanks for the support and help you've given me over the
> years.

Thip....not you too! This is such a heartbreak, I am stunned, truly stunned!
Very sad too. Please don't give up on us Thipper and Gordo. I wish my head
wasn't pounding so badly so I could make more sense. Misunderstandings
happen, it's life. Can everyone please calm down and try to find the love
that is shared here more often than the misunderstandings?

I gotta lay down now...ouch.

dort
Paul - 06 Mar 2006 23:25 GMT
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:36:43 -0500, "Thip" <me@privacy.net>, in message
ID <473ob1FdatsfU1@individual.net>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>Hold the door, I'm right behind you.
>
>Love you all, and thanks for the support and help you've given me over the
>years.

The exit from this group is a revolving door.  You may get stuck in it
and re -enter  :-)
Hope to see you back Thip.
Let us know how you get on sometime, won't you?
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2006 04:23 GMT

Re: It's not about religion  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2006, 4:36pm (CST+1)
From: me@privacy.net (Thip)
"Sara" <puffler@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:aPSdnXP9I7D5PpHZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
Wondering what happens when you totally lose your patience :) but,
honestly, not sticking around to find out. you guys have finally totally
alienated me, I'm gone. I'll stress over issues that matter, thanks
anyway.
Sara
p.s.   I thought the whole idea of a support group is that it IS all
about me.... and you... and each individual who joins that group and
contributes. WE are supposed to be equals, there to give and receive
support for the problem we have in common. Sadly, the ASH-C group seems
to be about a select few individuals who think they should make the
rules and decide who gets to belong to the group and who doesn't.   I
left this kind of juvenile crap behind in junior high, and I have NO
desire to revisit it. In Gordo's immortal words, "So Long".
Hold the door, I'm right behind you.
Love you all, and thanks for the support and help you've given me over
the years.
////////////
Dammmit, Thipper!!!  Why now?  Cody's been spewing his crap for years!!
Don't blame everyone else for this stuff.  If you want to blame someone,
don't blame the people who know and love you.  f.ck Cody, and f.ck the
horse he rode in on.  We need you.....and you need us.
Get it?  
Much love,
tequilla sunrise elmo

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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2006 04:12 GMT
That's bullshit, Sara!  I'm a strong believer in God, but believe He has
a sense of humor too.  Otherwise, He wouldn't have let us have a good
fart when we need one.  Get over it!!!
Father Elmo
POOOOOOOOOTTT!!
///////////////
Re: It's not about religion  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2006, 4:02pm (CST+1)
From: puffler@wowway.com (Sara)
Ya know Spidey, the one fact that everyone keeps attributing to me that
just isn't so is the "so called Christian Morality" issue.
My concerns are about human decency. period. About treating fellow human
beings with the respect they deserve.
If Cody worked at Ford Motor company, or ANY major company in the US,
and posted that on the internet for fellow employees to 'get a chuckle'
from, he'd be severly disciplined, if not fired. It's just NOT
acceptable social behavior in any place that I want to be a part of.
Wondering what happens when you totally lose your patience :) but,
honestly, not sticking around to find out. you guys have finally totally
alienated me, I'm gone. I'll stress over issues that matter, thanks
anyway.
Sara
p.s.   I thought the whole idea of a support group is that it IS all
about me.... and you... and each individual who joins that group and
contributes. WE are supposed to be equals, there to give and receive
support for the problem we have in common. Sadly, the ASH-C group seems
to be about a select few individuals who think they should make the
rules and decide who gets to belong to the group and who doesn't.   I
left this kind of juvenile crap behind in junior high, and I have NO
desire to revisit it. In Gordo's immortal words, "So Long".
"Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> wrote in message
news:120p89tto0dafac@corp.supernews.com...
"Sara" <puffler@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:ecqdnR10EfiqwpHZRVn-pw@wideopenwest.com...
Ok Spidey, and/or anyone else who might care.
<snippage to get to the point>
I don't understand how my words got so twisted and misinterpreted.
(me) who got painted with the 'religious zealot' brush MY objections.
everyone here seems to think that's OK. Many of us don't think that's
acceptable I'm disappointed that ... was met with ... derision and
misundertanding. I'm disappointed that the heads in this group
..
misinterpreted what I tried to say.... I'm disappointed that my concerns
have been dismissed as emotional over-reactions and trivialized .
I'm just appalled that you all think it was 'ok' I know I'm spinning my
wheels and wasting my efforts
Okay, Sara...
Lots of complaints from you about your experience here, so here's my
complaint:
This group isn't about you, and it isn't about good manners. Your
whining that somebody else got a good laugh out of something offensive
to you is making *everyone* uncomfortable. You've ignored every
reasonable, positive post on the subject. It reminds me how much I
detest this Christian superiority moral majority bullshit that you're
peddling. People here shouldn't have to pretend they're walking on
eggshells, worried that someone is analyzing every post, trying to find
something to be offended by.
Get over it.
WS
<running out of patience>

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Mom - 06 Mar 2006 22:19 GMT
>> Ok Spidey, and/or anyone else who might care.
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> WS
> <running out of patience>

Unfortunately there is no "Kansas".

Mom
Paul - 06 Mar 2006 23:17 GMT
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:08:27 -0500, "Sara" <puffler@wowway.com>, in
message ID <ecqdnR10EfiqwpHZRVn-pw@wideopenwest.com>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>These folks react to that post, protesting the act, and asking
>that he refrain from doing that again.  Does he say "oops, you're
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>response from the support group, defending/enabling Cody's
>initial action.

If other people (myself included) say that they thought the video was
funny, it does not invalidate your opinion/reaction unless you choose
to let it.
Have others tried to walk all over/invalidate your opinions in the
past when you were less able to speak up for yourself?
I know I had a lot of problems in that area - just guessing that it
may have been like that for you sometime.
Well I've got news for you.  ****Your opinion is valid**** even though
it differs from mine.

Could it be that you may have been trying to invalidate others'
opinions because the found it funny and you didn't.  Just a thought.
I'm NOT having a go at you here.  Just trying to chat.  Please insert
a caring tone into my message rather than a harsh critical one (this
can be so hard to convey in a text only medium).
Paul - 06 Mar 2006 23:23 GMT
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:17:51 +0000, Paul
<dontspamme@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk>, in message ID
<cagp021t6opggjuhhl49r959talrck2brc@4ax.com>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>If other people (myself included) say that they thought the video was
>funny, it does not invalidate your opinion/reaction unless you choose
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I'm NOT having a go at you here.  Just trying to chat.  Please insert
>a caring tone into my message rather than a hars

Oops !!  I posted this before I read Sara's goodbye post.  Ah well.
Maybe she will read it anyway even if she no longer wishes to
participate.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2006 04:39 GMT
I'll bet I could get everyone to come back and relax if Dort would have
sex with me.  That is......... everyone but Dort.  Come on, Dort.  Give
it up for the sake of the group.  I'll be gentle.....or
rough.....however you like it best......in the name of the NG.
ahahahahahahaha!!!!
Elmo  

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kjoh - 07 Mar 2006 04:55 GMT
ahahaha! baby baby why you been gone so long?
:-)
kj

"I'll bet I could get everyone to come back and relax if Dort would have
sex with me.  That is......... everyone but Dort.  Come on, Dort.  Give it
up for the sake of the group.  I'll be gentle.....or rough.....however you
like it best......in the name of the NG. ahahahahahahaha!!!!"
Elmo  


dortski - 07 Mar 2006 12:28 GMT
> I'll bet I could get everyone to come back and relax if Dort would have
> sex with me.  That is......... everyone but Dort.  Come on, Dort.  Give
> it up for the sake of the group.  I'll be gentle.....or
> rough.....however you like it best......in the name of the NG.
> ahahahahahahaha!!!!
> Elmo

Not now Elmo....I have a headache....

dort
dortski - 07 Mar 2006 13:08 GMT
>> I'll bet I could get everyone to come back and relax if Dort would have
>> sex with me.  That is......... everyone but Dort.  Come on, Dort.  Give
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> dort
Hey wait....does that mean you want everyone to come back but me?
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2006 14:47 GMT

Re: It's not about religion  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2006, 1:08pm (CST+6)
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I'll bet I could get everyone to come back and relax if Dort would have
sex with me. That is......... everyone but Dort. Come on, Dort. Give it
up for the sake of the group. I'll be gentle.....or rough.....however
you like it best......in the name of the NG. ahahahahahahaha!!!!
Elmo
Not now Elmo....I have a headache....
dort
Hey wait....does that mean you want everyone to come back but me?
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Of course not!  We need you here.  You still have a headache?  :-)
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2006 14:43 GMT

Re: It's not about religion  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2006, 12:28pm (CST+6)
From: dwilde1@austin.rr.com (dortski)
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I'll bet I could get everyone to come back and relax if Dort would have
sex with me. That is......... everyone but Dort. Come on, Dort. Give it
up for the sake of the group. I'll be gentle.....or rough.....however
you like it best......in the name of the NG. ahahahahahahaha!!!!
Elmo
Not now Elmo....I have a headache....
dort
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Thanks for not taking me too seriously, Dort.  :-)
elmo

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swargler@yahoo.com - 07 Mar 2006 03:46 GMT
Well I'm thinking about how the muslim world reacted when they found
out about the Swedish funnies on Mohammed.  Thats how it goes.  Cody
has always had his say about Christian religions and I don't really
have a problem with that myself.  If someone's belief is strong they
shouldn't feel threatened by such humor.   You know, as far as I'm
concerned, it is all just a load of bullshit.  But bullshit can get
people killed.  That's the way it goes.
kjoh - 07 Mar 2006 04:42 GMT
Hey Swargler I'm thrilled that you don't have a problem with Cody, but
people facing death don't need their faith attacked in a support group,
even if it was just a lame attempt at cuteness. Get real.

kj

Swarger: (?!)  Cody has always had his say about Christian religions and I
don't really have a problem with that myself.  
 
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