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kjoh - 27 Jan 2006 01:03 GMT
Hey sweetie what's happening?  I think I missed one of your posts.

Check your email.
kj
mags - 27 Jan 2006 01:05 GMT
I second that - cactus jammies responded but I dont see it.  Are u okay
dorlet?

Maglet
kjoh - 27 Jan 2006 02:01 GMT
Hey Mags, I got an email from her.  She's ok I think but she's into major
stress and a festival of tears.  f.cking Wellbutrin and Effexor.
Hang on Dort!

And how about you, Magma Head?  How's that headache?

kj

>>I second that - cactus jammies responded but I >>dont see it.  Are u
okay dorlet?
>>Maglet
kjoh - 27 Jan 2006 02:37 GMT
Aaack! Call the grammar police!  I mis-spoke.  Dort is not f.cking
Wellbutrin and Effexor.  She is a nice lady ;)
She's gonna love this...
kj

>>kjoh stupidly wrote:
>>Hey Mags, I got an email from her.  She's ok I think but she's into
major stress and a festival of tears.  f.cking Wellbutrin and Effexor.
Hang on Dort!

And how about you, Magma Head?  How's that headache?

kj

>>I second that - cactus jammies responded but I >>dont see it.  Are u
okay dorlet?
>>Maglet
dortski - 28 Jan 2006 03:02 GMT
> Aaack! Call the grammar police!  I mis-spoke.  Dort is not f.cking
> Wellbutrin and Effexor.  She is a nice lady ;)
> She's gonna love this...
> kj

OMG! Now that is classic kjoh! LMAO! You kill me you do kj....you are so
stinking funny. I still get a crack up over the 'danger spot' post....lol!
And your alter ego...koko...is so pure in it's delivery....you got some
funny stuff bouncing out of that head of yours girl. It's always timed
perfectly. I love you for it!

I've only bounced in here off and on. I have a ton of catching up to do! But
first I think I owe you all an update. I didn't mean to worry you guys, but
it sure feels nice that you did!

I think I am over the worst of it. For a while there having all these
irritation issues, my room mate kept asking me what's wrong, your not
yourself. I finally snapped at him and that was way out of character for me.
He was the first to point out the changes in my personality once I started
the effexor.I wasn't sure if it was that or the riba. I was constantly
agitated, a quote another poster on a message board, "The grass growing
outside is really pissing me off!" sums it up nicely. It took a bunch of
digging, but now that I know what the true cause of all these strange little
things happening with my body has made all the differance. The rash was not
from the riba, it was from the effexor and started slowly over last weekend
and by Monday I was lite up like a christmas tree with big red blotches over
most of my body. The user friendly handout you get with effexor does not
mention skin issues. The PDR has listed under adverse reactions...Skin:
Frequent: Puritius. My pdoc visit...f.ck! When I told him I wasn't
tolorating the sides of the high dose of effexor, and told him my laundry
list of them, one was the extremely dry mouth, I have a crack in the corner
that will not heal I am so dry. I stay hydrated but nothing would help it.
His response was that was proof the effexor was working. I told him I wasn't
argueing that with him, I just don't like the way it is making me feel. His
voice got a bit louder and he kept askin me these stupid on a scale of 1 to
10 questions.... where is your anxiety? I told him 12, he asked why, I told
him because I was dreading this visit, he asked why, I told him because I
have a fear of psych docs, he asked why and I reminded him of my past
experience. He was part of that, but doesn't remember me. He raised his
voice even louder and said I should be glad that he doesn't support changing
my med, that so many people and doctors think a pill is going to change
every thing and if this don't work we'll thy that and so on.....the entire
time he is going on his tirade I am thinking to myself and biting my tongue,
" f.cker, that is exactly what you did on my first visit...I was on Zoloft
with no problems. He insisited that what was missing was therapy, and that
he just so happened to have an opening on Monday at 4:30 and they don't come
open often so I should jump on it. It only costs $60.00 a week and my
insurance would cover half. When he treated me 6 yrs ago when I didn't have
insurance he told my I was too high functioning to benefit from group.

Holy sh.t...I am rambling and I wanted to keep this brief! Whoosh! I just
let him say what he had to say. Asked for the Zoloft and left. I went
directly to my GP and explained what had happened, showed him how this guy
wrote up my instructions for switching back to zoloft from a high dose of
effexor. My GP just shook his head, examed my rash, which since stopping the
effexor cold turkey has started to subside. He then asked me what I wanted
him to do. I asked him to monitor my anti depressant use until the end of tx
and he said he would see me once a month! Big sigh! He even gave me xanax to
help prn, my pdoc kept pushing Ambion, which is expensive and benedryl works
just as good. He told me benedryl is a dirty drug and bad for my liver,
anything cheaper or generic would be addicting. I told him I've used xanax
before with no addiction or habit problems and only used it when needed. He
said you can't use it like that.....I am rambling again...sorry. I think
that psych doc is an idiot and am considering lodging a complain against
him.

Ok....so it has been a huge relief. The withdrawals should be interesting,
but just knowing why they are happening makes it so much easier. I use to
freak, now I just let them happen. What use to scare the sh.t out of me, now
I am learning to let it amuse me. Vertigo, brain zaps....Weyth may have
found a way to do electric shock therapy with a pill! The swimming
brain...very strange...but like I said, they will pass soon enough.

I am not sure if I am making much sense. Just wanted you all to know I am
returning from my trip to the dark side of the moon....hopefully at warp
speed!

Now to catch up with what's been going on with all of you guys!

I can't thank you enough for the show of support and concern! I am single,
my family is in Pennsylvania and my closest friends live out of town. So you
guys are the closest thing I have to family here in Texas! My room mate is a
pretty good buddy, but he has substance abuse issues and not someone I can
really depend on.

Damn it....I am rambling again! It's like the flood gates opened a little
too quick and now I have all this emotion coming out that has been blocked
for a couple months.

For those starting treatment, that are needing an anti depressant just in
case....if given a choice try a lessor one....Effexor is a pretty heavy
hitter if you don't have depression issues. I've been on Prozac, Zoloft and
even Wellbutrin. I've never had the problems I had with Effexor...then it
could have been the bastard put me on too high a dose?  Just a thought for
you guys starting this journey.

Ok....now to getting caught up!

dort
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 05 Feb 2006 16:01 GMT
Geeeeezzzz, Dort!  Welcome back from the dark side.  You made it just in
time for Super Bowl Sunday!  I'll bet you're one of those Steeler fans,
tho.  ahahahahahaha!!
elmo
glad you're feeling better
//////  
OMG! Now that is classic kjoh! LMAO! You kill me you do kj....you are so
stinking funny. I still get a crack up over the 'danger spot'
post....lol! And your alter ego...koko...is so pure in it's
delivery....you got some funny stuff bouncing out of that head of yours
girl. It's always timed perfectly. I love you for it!
I've only bounced in here off and on. I have a ton of catching up to do!
But first I think I owe you all an update. I didn't mean to worry you
guys, but it sure feels nice that you did!
I think I am over the worst of it. For a while there having all these
irritation issues, my room mate kept asking me what's wrong, your not
yourself. I finally snapped at him and that was way out of character for
me. He was the first to point out the changes in my personality once I
started the effexor.I wasn't sure if it was that or the riba. I was
constantly agitated, a quote another poster on a message board, "The
grass growing outside is really pissing me off!" sums it up nicely. It
took a bunch of digging, but now that I know what the true cause of all
these strange little things happening with my body has made all the
differance. The rash was not from the riba, it was from the effexor and
started slowly over last weekend and by Monday I was lite up like a
christmas tree with big red blotches over most of my body. The user
friendly handout you get with effexor does not mention skin issues. The
PDR has listed under adverse reactions...Skin: Frequent: Puritius. My
pdoc visit...f.ck! When I told him I wasn't tolorating the sides of the
high dose of effexor, and told him my laundry list of them, one was the
extremely dry mouth, I have a crack in the corner that will not heal I
am so dry. I stay hydrated but nothing would help it. His response was
that was proof the effexor was working. I told him I wasn't argueing
that with him, I just don't like the way it is making me feel. His voice
got a bit louder and he kept askin me these stupid on a scale of 1 to 10
questions.... where is your anxiety? I told him 12, he asked why, I told
him because I was dreading this visit, he asked why, I told him because
I have a fear of psych docs, he asked why and I reminded him of my past
experience. He was part of that, but doesn't remember me. He raised his
voice even louder and said I should be glad that he doesn't support
changing my med, that so many people and doctors think a pill is going
to change every thing and if this don't work we'll thy that and so
on.....the entire time he is going on his tirade I am thinking to myself
and biting my tongue, " f.cker, that is exactly what you did on my first
visit...I was on Zoloft with no problems. He insisited that what was
missing was therapy, and that he just so happened to have an opening on
Monday at 4:30 and they don't come open often so I should jump on it. It
only costs $60.00 a week and my insurance would cover half. When he
treated me 6 yrs ago when I didn't have insurance he told my I was too
high functioning to benefit from group.
Holy sh.t...I am rambling and I wanted to keep this brief! Whoosh! I
just let him say what he had to say. Asked for the Zoloft and left. I
went directly to my GP and explained what had happened, showed him how
this guy wrote up my instructions for switching back to zoloft from a
high dose of effexor. My GP just shook his head, examed my rash, which
since stopping the effexor cold turkey has started to subside. He then
asked me what I wanted him to do. I asked him to monitor my anti
depressant use until the end of tx and he said he would see me once a
month! Big sigh! He even gave me xanax to help prn, my pdoc kept pushing
Ambion, which is expensive and benedryl works just as good. He told me
benedryl is a dirty drug and bad for my liver, anything cheaper or
generic would be addicting. I told him I've used xanax before with no
addiction or habit problems and only used it when needed. He said you
can't use it like that.....I am rambling again...sorry. I think that
psych doc is an idiot and am considering lodging a complain against him.
Ok....so it has been a huge relief. The withdrawals should be
interesting, but just knowing why they are happening makes it so much
easier. I use to freak, now I just let them happen. What use to scare
the sh.t out of me, now I am learning to let it amuse me. Vertigo, brain
zaps....Weyth may have found a way to do electric shock therapy with a
pill! The swimming brain...very strange...but like I said, they will
pass soon enough.
I am not sure if I am making much sense. Just wanted you all to know I
am returning from my trip to the dark side of the moon....hopefully at
warp speed!
Now to catch up with what's been going on with all of you guys!
I can't thank you enough for the show of support and concern! I am
single, my family is in Pennsylvania and my closest friends live out of
town. So you guys are the closest thing I have to family here in Texas!
My room mate is a pretty good buddy, but he has substance abuse issues
and not someone I can really depend on.
Damn it....I am rambling again! It's like the flood gates opened a
little too quick and now I have all this emotion coming out that has
been blocked for a couple months.
For those starting treatment, that are needing an anti depressant just
in case....if given a choice try a lessor one....Effexor is a pretty
heavy hitter if you don't have depression issues. I've been on Prozac,
Zoloft and even Wellbutrin. I've never had the problems I had with
Effexor...then it could have been the bastard put me on too high a dose?
Just a thought for you guys starting this journey.
Ok....now to getting caught up!
dort

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Shawn - 06 Feb 2006 08:55 GMT
Wow!!! Porklet that was exhausting just reading your post! Sounds like you
need to dump the Doc!! Bigtime!! Obviously you just need some Zoloft and
some xanax! ( I use Lorazepam, it's the same thing but much cheaper!!) Glad
you're home safe!! Was getting a little worried. So worried in fact that
Randi just booked us to P.V. for Easter! A clifftop ocean front condo for
$92 a night, at the Mismaloya!!
Love ya kid!!,
Shawn
(use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.)

> Geeeeezzzz, Dort!  Welcome back from the dark side.  You made it just in
> time for Super Bowl Sunday!  I'll bet you're one of those Steeler fans,
[quoted text clipped - 92 lines]
>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
dortski - 11 Feb 2006 02:35 GMT
> Wow!!! Porklet that was exhausting just reading your post! Sounds like you
> need to dump the Doc!! Bigtime!! Obviously you just need some Zoloft and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Shawn
> (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.)

Hey Shawn,

It about did me in there for a minute....I almost started to believe that
bastard. I am doing much better....sort of.
Anyway, that condo and location sound fabulous! Enjoy the vacation, you both
sure deserve it!

dort
dortski - 11 Feb 2006 02:43 GMT
> Geeeeezzzz, Dort!  Welcome back from the dark side.  You made it just in
> time for Super Bowl Sunday!  I'll bet you're one of those Steeler fans,
> tho.  ahahahahahaha!!
> elmo
> glad you're feeling better
> //////

Thanks Elmo....it was a wild ride for the wilde woman. I feel like sh.t, but
at least I am no longer perpetually pissed off. It's also nice to sleep
again. Ahhhh!

dort
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 05 Feb 2006 16:40 GMT
Johnson and Johnson?  :-)
elmo
//////////////
Aaack! Call the grammar police! I mis-spoke. Dort is not f.cking
Wellbutrin and Effexor. She is a nice lady ;) She's gonna love this...
kj
kjoh stupidly wrote:
Hey Mags, I got an email from her. She's ok I think but she's into
major stress and a festival of tears. f.cking Wellbutrin and Effexor.
Hang on Dort!
And how about you, Magma Head? How's that headache?
kj
I second that - cactus jammies responded but I >>dont see it. Are u
okay dorlet?
Maglet

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

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mags - 27 Jan 2006 19:17 GMT
The headache is the worst part of this.  I took wellbutrin in my 9
attempts to quit smoking and it creeped me out.  I had so much nervous
energy I would go to a hour work out class and stay for two hours.
Wild drug.  In the end the Dr. told me I would be hauling an oxygen
tank in 6 months if I didnt quit smoking - that worked.

Dortlet get off that wellbutrin sh.t.  Get yourself some xanax.

Mags
no hose in the nose for me

ps.  Kathy is there something about approaching 6 months on tx (Dortlet
is right behind me) whereby you loose it as I am.  When do the bad
sides disappear?
kjoh - 27 Jan 2006 19:47 GMT
>>Mags wrote:
>>Dortlet get off that wellbutrin sh.t.Get yourself some xanax.  
Mags  no hose in the nose for me

ps.  Kathy is there something about approaching 6 months on tx (Dortlet is
right behind me) whereby you loose it as I am.  When do the bad sides
disappear?
///////////
Hi Mags:  I'm going to look at my calendar and journal about when my sides
started getting better.  Once they started improving, they got better fast,
and kept getting better.  Especially the mental stuff.  I still have
constant(but manageable)low-grade fatigue (low red counts?) I'll tell you
tonigt or tomorrow.  What is you white cell count?  Do you have access to
neupogen?
Your trip home will be tiring.  When does that happen?

Dort was taking Effexor, which is a cousin of Wellbutrin.

So did the rest of you nosepickers hear Mags now- famous quote about
oxygen tanks?  "NO HOSE IN THE NOSE FOR ME"

tonight probably, Mags
kj
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 05 Feb 2006 16:50 GMT
So did the rest of you nosepickers hear Mags now- famous quote about
oxygen tanks? "NO HOSE IN THE NOSE FOR ME"
tonight probably, Mags
kj
//////////
Yeah, you caught me as I was getting ready to eat a big, hairy
boooger......so I flicked it instead.  It's stuck on the wall.  I'll
munch it later after it's dried out and you all aren't watching.  
elmo
How can you pick your nose if you've got an oxygen tube stuck up there?  

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dortski - 28 Jan 2006 05:33 GMT
> The headache is the worst part of this.  I took wellbutrin in my 9
> attempts to quit smoking and it creeped me out.  I had so much nervous
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> is right behind me) whereby you loose it as I am.  When do the bad
> sides disappear?

Magma Head...lol...that kj! Mags...I hear you loud and clear on the
nervous....I can't handle that stuff they put in Sudafed..(sp?)....300mg
daily of effexor....whoosh! But instead of getting all kinds of crap done,
all I could do was sit and look at the crap and get pissed at the piles of
crap getting bigger, then...(tmi) I started having trouble taking a decent
crap...yeah...the inner crap was even piling up! I am off of that crap...got
some xanax, zoloft and a new lease on life. Once that effexor crap let go of
it's grip on me....whoa...it really let go...lol!

What's happening with you? Your are not going through this crap are you? I
am hoping it's just that headeache that that had you down, and that you beat
it. I got to catch up on everyone. Tonight I am only managing responses. I
plan on relaxing in the morning and hope to hear you are doing well.

nite nite Mags...and thanks for your support...my buddy my pal!

dort
mags - 06 Feb 2006 22:27 GMT
Just reading this now dortlet.  Carefull all that talk about crap will
have Russ writing us :)

Mags
feeling low today
 
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