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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / January 2006Treatment- New Member
Greetings: I have Hep C type 3b, viral load as of 3 months ago was 270,000. Minor scarring onh my liver. I also have a truckload of other health issues. Spinal Cord Injury, Chronic Pain treated with narcotics, Diabetes, slow moving digestive system that keeps me nauseas without vomitting all the time.To top it off I also suffer from depression, treated poorly with an SSRI. I am due to start treatment at the end of January. Any and all comments suggestions, questions etc. would be greatly appreciated. I am really scared about the treatment as I have read far to many horror stories. Thank you for your help. Best, OpenBookman David Are you a para or a quad? Doug > Greetings: > I have Hep C type 3b, viral load as of 3 months ago was 270,000. Minor [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > OpenBookman > David OB- Holy fuckin Christ! I thought I had health issues. G1a, F3, n spleen, chronic pain, No narcotics because i am a recovering addict. G3b, from what I've read responds pretty well to tx. I'll have a talk with my man upstairs for you. I hope you live in a place where excellent Med Care is available. I stopped round 2 tx after seven months (nonresponder). Hell, if you can survive all that other sh.t - you have some cahones man. Good Luck & I'll be hoping for a quick repsonse to tx & an SVR for you. Hang in there & keep posting here, Steve OB Bro - I forgot to say - I have some leftover Infergen & Ribaviran, if that will be a financial issue & if that the tx your going for. I didn't know about the legal issues, but then I don't really care about the legal issues. Good Luck, Steve Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found the home and friends that I need for my future. Sorry about the double post, I'm having a bit of trouble with my computer, it needs help too. Thanks again and God Bless you all. OpenBookman David > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found the > home and friends that I need for my future. > Sorry about the double post, I'm having a bit of trouble with my computer, > it needs help too. Thanks again and God Bless you all. Hi Dave, Glad you like the neighbourhood, and I'm sure you'll find lots of good information and excellent support here, not to mention a few chuckles from time to time. However, not all of us will be praying for you because we don't all share your belief, and God Blessing some of us just might turn us to dust :) In other words, with respect, it's much smoother sailing if we keep religion out of ash-c, and that's a good thing for *all* of us. All the best, Waterspider > Glad you like the neighbourhood, and I'm sure you'll find lots of good > information and excellent support here, not to mention a few chuckles from [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Waterspider WS what's with my name in the post header? Doug Let's try that again: >> Glad you like the neighbourhood, and I'm sure you'll find lots of good >> information and excellent support here, not to mention a few chuckles [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Waterspider > > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look > > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Waterspider There you go again Spider, telling someone to keep religion out of ash-c! I have kept quiet long enough about this bullshit! Your failure to have religion, in no way bothers me. But when you tell others who have religion, to leave it out for the good of all of us, it sucks. When will you get it? You will not stop one single one of us from posting our support in the way we know that helps us. I have seen the ugliest come out in this group in the last few weeks and it comes from people I once respected and others I have only just had the opportunity to get to know. I have been around a long time, longer than most of you here. There has never been a spokesperson for this entire group and you may be very popular and likeable but you are not my spokesperson. Perhaps you might word your reply to someone new that it personally bothers you for a blessing. (this might be a better way of going about this.) I'll have no pissing contest with anyone here, I am not trying to change your belief at all, but refrain from trying to suppress anyone from speaking freely at all. As a newspaper person, I would have thought that you would know the balance and value of free speech. I don't post that often as I am not always up to posting. Other times I stopped reading this group because I was so sick and the bullshit tipped the (my) meter. I was once a productive member of SMDH and ASHC, I was an NP, (ya know, the ones some of you claim don't know jack sh.t!) I went to Washington, DC to speak on HCV's needs on a medical panel. I since, have suffered several strokes and lost a kidney to hcv. Do you know how many brain cells die when this happens? Tell me!.. I lost short term memory at one these events, but don't tell me what I can or can't post in this public forum. I am required by my own values to remain thoughtful of others when replying and I really did take the time to do it. I'll ask the same of you and others. To all: Every post is someone calling out for a word from someone else, if at any time any one of you lose site of that, you need to take a break. eileen >> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look >> > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > a break. > eileen I hear you and am in agreement. Not to offend anyone I won't piss in the wind either... Doug >> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look >> > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > sucks. > When will you get it? When will *you* get it, Eileen? This is a hep c support group that has members from all over the world, from all walks of life and from a variety of religious backgrounds. Christian references are great for Christians, but too easily alienate those of other religions or no religion. The foundation of Christianity is the belief that the Christian god is the one and only god, and that those who do not believe in him are heathens, sinners, lost souls, whatever (a Christian's mission is to convert the heathens). So, when someone says, "God bless you, we are praying for you, it's in God's hands, yada yada yada," they are telling me that they have judged me because I am not a Christian. Now, if you don't believe the laws of Christian religion, then you shouldn't call yourself a Christian. If you believe that your god loves Muslims, Satanists, Buddhists and Wiccans as much as he loves his Christians, then you're commiting a sin in the eyes of your lord. Christianity, any religion, is not a smorgasbord lunch where you just take the things you like. It's the full meal deal, and it condems anyone who eats at the sushi bar next door. Waterspider > You will not stop one single one of us from posting our support in the > way we know that helps us. I have seen the ugliest come out in this [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > a break. > eileen WS said: Christianity, any religion, is not a smorgasbord lunch where you just take the things you like. It's the full meal deal, and it condems anyone who eats at the sushi bar next door. No, Christianity isn't a pick and choose what you like and disregard the rest. Neither is anything worthwhile. But as for the condemnation remark, that becomes person to person..Not ALL. I have never once since my conversion "condemned" anyone. Thats not for me to do. Ref: "Judge not, lest ye be judged". Some people "think" that is what Christians are doing but it's not necessarily so. God is my judge. If you came here saying if you don't worship tree's you're going to Hell. I wouldn't feel condemned. I would just disagree with you. YOU have to receive the condemnation before it has a place. From what I've seen here throughout alot of religious debates Is a ton of people with pre-conceived Ideas about how Christians are...and thus we end up being the "judged" and "condemed" ones. But that again, doesn't bother me a bit. I'm convinced of my beliefs, I'm not telling you to be. You must understand that to be a Christian in the truest sense is to believe we are to help all who are in need. Key on ALL. Muslim, Druid, Hindu, Buddhist..etc...Love knows no boundries. But if you measure every Christian into one lump and say you're all alike. That is wrong. There is good, bad, and ugly in everything. Why would saying "bless you" mean I'm judging you? Christians say it to each other all the time..Are we judging each other? Don't think so. We are hoping and praying God's best for your life. You speak of Believing in the Laws of Christianity. Jesus said He came to do away with the letter of the law. His New Testament is one of Grace...Unmerited favor....We are held to the law of love... [...] > I have never once since my conversion "condemned" anyone. Thats not for > me to do. > > Ref: "Judge not, lest ye be judged". Some people "think" that is what > Christians are doing > but it's not necessarily so. In early December you wrote: > at the core of most who shout the loudest about not > mentioning Christ is the obviousness of a very hurt, > and lonely spirit. That's just one example of your baseless, biased, negative judgments about people who don't share your religious beliefs and who publically say so. You're a liar. [...] > I've seen here throughout alot of religious debates > Is a ton of people with pre-conceived Ideas about how Christians > are...and thus we end up being the "judged" and "condemed" ones. Spare me the christian-as-persecuted-minority bullshit. While some people here have made generalizations about christians the majority of complaints about you have been based on your words. G > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > G Almost *all* these complaints are from a few averse to the name of Jesus, but why don't we drop it? Gordo, things have been quieting down for the last week or so. Let the Christians mention their faith without taking offense and we'll let you tell of your latest hamster exploits Ahhaaahhhhaaaa! Doug [...] > Almost *all* these complaints are from a few averse to the name of Jesus, > but why don't we drop it? Almost all the complaints are from a few who insist on asserting their monolithic beliefs. > Gordo, things have been quieting down for the > last week or so. Let the Christians mention their faith without taking > offense and we'll let you tell of your latest hamster exploits Hahhahahah. Fuckwit. You go Gordo :) Might be time to call out the farters and nosepickers again. kj chief nosepicker >>Gordo wrote: Hahhahahah. Fuckwit. > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Hahhahahah. Fuckwit. Gordo, I feel I have to mention this, I don't care what you do, there is no judgement here. The only reason I did say this is because I don't think Dougs comments above should have ever been thought of; much less typed. You would be welcome anytime in my home. That is, if you won't holler at me! ;) Eileen - Thanks for posting this. I appreciate it. And I never holler in person. I'm usually to busy giggling. G > > [...] > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > You would be welcome anytime in my home. That is, if you won't holler > at me! ;) The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly diverse group always erupts and degenerates into volumes of angry garble that continues for days. The topic of hep c gets trampled and important thoughts about it never get written, Newbies that might be helped and important oldies disappear. We all know it isn't as simple as ignoring posts or using killfiles. Because of the dynamics of the group, these awful conflagrations appear inevitable. And ultimately sad. Is there any solution? I wonder if we could bring our faith (in healing) but leave religion at the door? kj > The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are > living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > inevitable. And ultimately sad. Is there any solution? I wonder if we > could bring our faith (in healing) but leave religion at the door? Yeah, what she said! Well put, KoJoh. WS Sadly, only a moderator would be able to solve that problem.  SignatureShawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) > The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are > living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > kj Yeah Shawn, I hear ya. Even a moderator would deter some of the sweet crazies in here. This may be kind of an unsolvable cyber problem. Too bad. I have made private contact with some of my favorite hearts in here (as you know :) because sometimes I think all bitterness generated might ultimately bring this board down. And I admit to having contributed to some of it myself. kj kjohyayhoo at yahoo dot com >>Shawn wrote: >>Sadly, only a moderator would be able to solve that problem.-- Shawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) > The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly diverse group always erupts and degenerates into volumes of angry garble that continues for days. The topic of hep c gets trampled and important thoughts about it never get written,... > Yeah Shawn, I hear ya. Even a moderator would deter some of the sweet > crazies in here. This may be kind of an unsolvable cyber problem. Too > bad. > > I have made private contact with some of my favorite hearts in here ... Well, ...... dttrash-at-adelphia.net :-) Doug So there I was in Walmart giving myself a bl.wj.b... >>Well, ...... dttrash-at-adelphia.net :-) Doug > So there I was in Walmart giving myself a bl.wj.b... Nice ... real holistic and healing of you.... thanks, Doug >> So there I was in Walmart giving myself a bl.wj.b... >> > Nice ... real holistic and healing of you.... thanks, Doug Odd that you'd take this opportunity to snipe at Kojoh rather than reply to my post, which was a civilized response to yet another blast from you. Or should I take your silence to mean that you finally get the point? Waterspider Why you're welcome Doug. I do find it holistic and healing. Glad I could share it with you. A Halmark moment :) kj >"kjoh" <kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in >message > So there I was in Walmart giving myself a bl.wj.b... > >Nice ... real holistic and healing of >you.... thanks, Doug > Why you're welcome Doug. I do find it holistic and healing. Glad I could > share it with you. A Halmark moment :) ahahhahahahah! Doug ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! elmo (coffee running out my nose) /////////// So there I was in Walmart giving myself a bl.wj.b... Well, ...... dttrash-at-adelphia.net :-) Doug http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! > elmo > (coffee running out my nose) > /////////// Point-Counterpoint (SNL) "Jane, you ignorant slut!" Spidey >> ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! >> elmo >> (coffee running out my nose) >> /////////// > Point-Counterpoint (SNL) > "Jane, you ignorant slut!" See, it's fun! Spidey > > ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! > > elmo > > (coffee running out my nose) > > /////////// > Point-Counterpoint (SNL) > "Jane, you ignorant slut!" SNL humor: http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/8356/SNL_Refurbishments_Home_Garden.h tml http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/39/SNL_Cork_Soakers.html A moderator wouldn't let me fart anymore. elmo /////////// Sadly, only a moderator would be able to solve that problem. SignatureShawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) "kjoh" <kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message news:03ca7bbeb5f36e112e76d64f2aebe63d@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com... The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly diverse group always erupts and degenerates into volumes of angry garble that continues for days. The topic of hep c gets trampled and important thoughts about it never get written, Newbies that might be helped and important oldies disappear. We all know it isn't as simple as ignoring posts or using killfiles. Because of the dynamics of the group, these awful conflagrations appear inevitable. And ultimately sad. Is there any solution? I wonder if we could bring our faith (in healing) but leave religion at the door? kj http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum OK, I'm one of the newbie's here. and really don't plan on going away (either way or any) and this is a somewhat heated thread (I'm new here, but not to Internet) so I'm not going to comment much (I'm being 'briefly' again) except to say Kathy has put this very well. I have faith, but I try to keep it between my faith and myself. There are a couple rules I try to follow, don't back off in my own jack yard and don't talk politics and religion at bars. The latter I 've found holds pretty true for Internet Forums and usenet too. If the subject title of this Forum was alt.support christian hep-c, I probably wouldn't have posted here. I'm not posting this to step on anyone's toes, I really just prefer a place where complexity compounds complex anyway. peace. den > The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are > living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > kj > to step on anyone's toes, I really just prefer a place where complexity > compounds complex anyway. peace. > den EDIT: should read: 'Doesn't' compound complex. Re: Doug - Problem and Question Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 6:36pm (CST+1) From: kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly diverse group always erupts and degenerates into volumes of angry garble that continues for days. The topic of hep c gets trampled and important thoughts about it never get written, Newbies that might be helped and important oldies disappear. We all know it isn't as simple as ignoring posts or using killfiles. Because of the dynamics of the group, these awful conflagrations appear inevitable. And ultimately sad. Is there any solution? I wonder if we could bring our faith (in healing) but leave religion at the door? kj ///////// Yeah, what Kathy said. elmo Dave? Dave's not here! No, man! I'm Dave! Dave? Yeah! Dave's not here! http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Re: Doug - Problem and Question > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Yeah! > Dave's not here! Point-Counterpoint (SNL) "Jane, you ignorant slut!" Doc, ya gotta try this, it fits anywhere! Ahahahahahahaha <my best imitation Elmo-laugh> Spidey >> Re: Doug - Problem and Question >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >Spidey "Hambuger, Hambuger, Hambuger, Hambuger. Coke, no Pepsi". Re: Doug - Problem Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 3:17pm From: HangininThere@verizon.com (Frank) In article <11r5s5hdke53b2@corp.supernews.com>, waterspider@moonlight.net says... <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message news:27216-43B298EE-917@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... Re: Doug - Problem and Question Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 6:36pm (CST+1) From: kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) The problem is that religion is such a sensitive issue, and most of us are living so close to the edge, that when someone brings it up, this highly diverse group always erupts and degenerates into volumes of angry garble that continues for days. The topic of hep c gets trampled and important thoughts about it never get written, Newbies that might be helped and important oldies disappear. We all know it isn't as simple as ignoring posts or using killfiles. Because of the dynamics of the group, these awful conflagrations appear inevitable. And ultimately sad. Is there any solution? I wonder if we could bring our faith (in healing) but leave religion at the door? kj ///////// Yeah, what Kathy said. elmo Dave? Dave's not here! No, man! I'm Dave! Dave? Yeah! Dave's not here! Point-Counterpoint (SNL) "Jane, you ignorant slut!" Doc, ya gotta try this, it fits anywhere! Ahahahahahahaha <my best imitation Elmo-laugh> Spidey "Hambuger, Hambuger, Hambuger, Hambuger. Coke, no Pepsi". /////////// Umm..... "CHEESEBURGER, CHEESEBURGER, CHEESEBURGER....PEPSI, PEPSI, PEPSI!" http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Re: Doug - Problem > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Umm..... "CHEESEBURGER, CHEESEBURGER, CHEESEBURGER....PEPSI, PEPSI, > PEPSI!" yep, can see Balushi up there doin his thing :) "Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, PEPSI, NO COKE!" > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >> Re: Doug - Problem >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >yep, can see Balushi up there doin his thing :) "Cheeseburger, >Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, PEPSI, NO COKE!" You guys are right. I haven't seen that skit in decades but I did remember a lawsuit ensued: Billy Goat, the tavern beneath [Chicago's] Michigan Avenue made famous by the "cheezborger, cheezborger" skits on "Saturday Night Live" in the late 1970s, sued Cheeburger Cheeburger Restaurants Inc. on Monday for trademark infringement. The federal lawsuit comes as Cheeburger Cheeburger, a Florida-based chain of 32 family-style restaurants mostly in the South and East, plans to open its first location in suburban Chicago. . . . [T]he famous phrase comes from [owner Sam] Sianis and Greek immigrant co-workers barking out the orders of customers during busy lunch hours [at the Billy Goat]. It became immortalized when comedian John Belushi, in a series of skits on "Saturday Night Live," would tell customers hoping to order something else: "Cheezborger, cheezborger, cheezborger ? no Pepsi--Coke. No fries--cheeps." Citing a Tribune story, the lawsuit said Don Novello, better known as "Father Guido Sarducci," another long-running "Saturday Night Live" character, wrote the "cheezborger, cheezborger" skit based on Billy Goat's. In a Tribune story commemorating Billy Goat's 50th anniversary in 1984, Novello said he had regularly visited the Lower Michigan Avenue tavern in the late 1960s when he worked in Chicago as an advertising copywriter. "Frank" <HangininThere@verizon.com> wrote > You guys are right. I haven't seen that skit in decades but I did remember a > lawsuit ensued: > Billy Goat, the tavern beneath [Chicago's] Michigan Avenue made famous by [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Novello said he had regularly visited the Lower Michigan Avenue tavern in > the late 1960s when he worked in Chicago as an advertising copywriter. Sheesh, that's even funnier than the skit! Thanks, Frank, Waterspider >"Frank" <HangininThere@verizon.com> wrote > You guys are right. I haven't >seen that skit in decades but I did remember a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Waterspider Money rules sweetie. Waterspider, Christianity is not a religion, Catholicism is a religion. A Christian is one who follows Christ, period. There are all types of Christians it is a personal thing. When will you get that through your head? Why can't you figure that out? Why don't you just drop it? You can't drop it can you? It's like magic! Doug >>> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look >>> > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >> a break. >> eileen Doug: This is not a forum for discussing Christian or any other spiritual beliefs, nor is it a debate game for bored sick people, nor a Hep c information service. No matter how important your Christianity is to you, it is not a viable topic on this board because it instantly becomes volatile, and you know that. Displays of emotion and ego are inevitable and the dialogue turns sour. Not only is the topic not viable, the protracted arguments and deliberate antagonism are plainly destructive to the heart of this group. Interestingly, there is a small splinter group of us now who talk privately via email about art and creativity, because we find it healing. Would I be making a mistake to propose that those of you strongly inclined toward religious discussion contact each other via email so that you can communicate freely without risk of deterring newbies and loyal old timers? kj Did you read my post? I suggest you read it again. Doug > Doug: This is not a forum for discussing Christian or any other spiritual > beliefs, nor is it a debate game for bored sick people, nor a Hep c [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > kj > Waterspider, Christianity is not a religion, Catholicism is a religion. A > Christian is one who follows Christ, period. There are all types of > Christians it is a personal thing. When will you get that through your > head? Why can't you figure that out? Why don't you just drop it? You > can't drop it can you? It's like magic! Doug I can drop it, and I did drop it, but Christian references keep popping into posts and I feel that it's detremental to the group as a whole because not everyone here is a Christian. To me, it's irritating and insulting, and it's often discriminatory. You call yourself a Christian, and so by your own definition you "follow Christ." One would presume that means following the teachings of Christ and the word of God, the bible. The bible discriminates against anyone who is not Christian. But then you squirm away from the issue by saying that all Christians are different. Does this mean that you're a Christian but you don't believe in the teachings of God? Don't bother answering that but, instead, please tell us why you so strongly object to dropping Christian references in ash-c. Waterspider >>>> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look >>>> > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >>> a break. >>> eileen > >> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I look > >> > forward to further participation on this board, I think I have found [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Christian references are great for Christians, but too easily alienate those > of other religions or no religion. > The foundation of Christianity is the belief that the Christian god is the > one and only god, and that those who do not believe in him are heathens, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the things you like. It's the full meal deal, and it condems anyone who eats > at the sushi bar next door. Spider, /|\ /|\ ( these are arrows up) I must have missed this part. Where did you hear about this or where did you learn this? I don't know where you got these laws of Christian religion. If you have a reference I would like to know about it. If it was presented to me in the way you describe, I think I wouldn't want anypart of them either. But that's not me, give me a name if you will, hey, make up a freaking song about me, bring your sarcasm right out where it will hurt me. Respecting someone is more about who we are than about who the other person is. But the point was you, Spider, who doesn't care for "religion", spoke out for everyone, you decided it wasn't to be brought up between anyone. I think if you read the whole of my posts (2) on this subject, you would see that I don't think this is the place to discuss religion, but to tell a newbie, that you don't want any of this newbies religion infecting this group is wrong. Simple as that! Now do *you* you get it? > Waterspider > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > a break. > > eileen >> >> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I >> >> > look [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > me in the way you describe, I think I wouldn't want anypart of them > either. It's in the bible. > But that's not me, give me a name if you will, hey, make up a freaking > song about me, bring your sarcasm right out where it will hurt me. > Respecting someone is more about who we are than about who the other > person is. Eileen, I'm not trying to hurt you and never have. > But the point was you, Spider, who doesn't care for "religion", spoke > out for everyone, you decided it wasn't to be brought up between > anyone. I think most people agree that religion has no place here. You are only the fourth person to adamantly say that it does. I guess we could take a vote? > I think if you read the whole of my posts (2) on this subject, you > would see that I don't think this is the place to discuss religion, but > to tell a newbie, that you don't want any of this newbies religion > infecting this group is wrong. Simple as that! > Now do *you* you get it? Your post said to me, and I paraphrase for brevity: 1. That my opinion is not important to you; 2. That you didn't agree with my post; and 3. That you are determined to continue posting religious support in ash-c. Now if you'll be patient enough to re-read my original post, here it is: --Glad you like the neighbourhood, and I'm sure you'll find lots of good --information and excellent support here, not to mention a few chuckles from --time to time. However, not all of us will be praying for you because we --don't all share your belief, and God Blessing some of us just might turn us --to dust :) In other words, with respect, it's much smoother sailing if we --keep religion out of ash-c, and that's a good thing for *all* of us. --All the best, I didn't say anything like, "I don't want your religion infecting this group," and I didn't proclaim to represent everyone here. Perhaps you're being a tad too sensitive about this? >> > You will not stop one single one of us from posting our support in the >> > way we know that helps us. I have seen the ugliest come out in this [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> > a break. >> > eileen > >> >> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I > >> >> > look [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > It's in the bible. Where? I've never read this, ever! please tell me where I can find this. > > But that's not me, give me a name if you will, hey, make up a freaking > > song about me, bring your sarcasm right out where it will hurt me. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I think most people agree that religion has no place here. You are only the > fourth person to adamantly say that it does. I guess we could take a vote? see below, this is what I said on that subject: > > I think if you read the whole of my posts (2) on this subject, you > > would see that I don't think this is the place to discuss religion, but [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 2. That you didn't agree with my post; and > 3. That you are determined to continue posting religious support in ash-c. Sorry, really that you feel this way, I think what you read into it was not what I wanted you to know. I just witnessed an ugly scene here about religion where no one could win. I wanted to know why you continued to suppress it after having engaged quite often in continuing the mess. Truth be told. > Now if you'll be patient enough to re-read my original post, here it is: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > group," and I didn't proclaim to represent everyone here. Perhaps you're > being a tad too sensitive about this? No, your right. That is the way I saw your post, just has how you saw mine different. Sensitive, yes, I am, just as I see you are. I don't want any of my rights taken away. Couldn't we, like Kathy mentioned just to leave it be and not mention it. I hurt you, you hurt me, why would either of us want that? If someone, does talk about it, click, next post please. sh.t, ya know what Spider, I hate conflict, almost as much as being told what to do, don't you? > >> > You will not stop one single one of us from posting our support in the > >> > way we know that helps us. I have seen the ugliest come out in this [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >> > a break. > >> > eileen "eileen" <samiamtwoyou@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > No, your right. That is the way I saw your post, just has how you saw > mine different. Sensitive, yes, I am, just as I see you are. Hey, it's not always a bad thing :) I don't > want any of my rights taken away. Couldn't we, like Kathy mentioned > just to leave it be and not mention it. Not mention it or take it to private e-mails, yeah, I'd love to see this happen. > I hurt you, you hurt me, why would either of us want that? I certainly didn't want to hurt anyone, just have my view understood. > If someone, does talk about it, click, next post please. I couldn't do that and be true to myself. > sh.t, ya know what Spider, I hate conflict, almost as much as being > told what to do, don't you? You bet! We can agree to disagree on the religion thing, let it wash out with the tide and carry on with what's very important to both of us, and the group.... the f.cking Dragon! Hope you have a great day. The sun is shining here and I'm thinking of heading outdoors with my camera. Waterspider [...] > > It's in the bible. > > Where? I've never read this, ever! please tell me where I can find > this. I think it starts with: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: No man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6 and goes on from there. > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > and goes on from there. You're wrong. Drop it. Doug Hhhmmm....... sh.t....lil ole me started World War III, the last thing I had on my mind at the time. You have given me a lot to think about as well as some chuckles. Being as I seem to have started all this please allow me to end it as well. The good outcome is I now realize that I am in a group of very passionate people, Which is GREAT! Now, lets put it to bed, OK? Thank you all, Dave OpenBookman "OpenBookman" <Livingasylum@nospam.aol.com> wrote... > Hhhmmm....... > sh.t....lil ole me started World War III, the last thing I had on my mind [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Dave > OpenBookman Hey, Dave, I like you! Sorry about getting your name wrong in the header, and I hope you know that my reply to your original post was not meant to be nasty at all. Thanks for looking at the positive in this derailed thread (chuckles + a group of passionate people) and, promise, we'll grow on you <grin> Waterspider are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value perhaps to you as well. Chester Field >>> >> > Thank you all for your comments,questions,answers and prayers. I >>> >> > look [quoted text clipped - 158 lines] >>> > a break. >>> > eileen It's rare that this happens but your name harkens back to a time when people could smoke and just enjoy it and it makes me want a cigarette so bad. It's OK, no prob, it just makes me stronger :) G [...] Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: http://www.devilducky.com/media/2536/ > Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: > > http://www.devilducky.com/media/2536/ ROFLMAO! Thanks Gordo, for turning me on to an excellent website, tears are running down my face, lol, lol, lol! Banging plastic toys... Blackwolf the Dragonslayer... I love it all, hahahahaha... Imagine what Triumph would have to say to us all here at ash-c! And Sarah Silverman is absolutely fabulous, I've never heard of her before (but then I don't think she'd be real popular in Pender Harbour)... anyway, thanks, it's great stuff. Spidey >> Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Spidey The Star Wars Geeks *is* a classic. Possibly the funniest remote video ever. > waterspider@moonlight.net says... >>"Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote . [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The Star Wars Geeks *is* a classic. Possibly the funniest remote video > ever. Don't get me wrong, I love Pender Harbour. But stuff like this makes me realize that I've become somewhat culturally deprived. Do you, or Gordo, know where it was filmed? Waterspider [...] > Don't get me wrong, I love Pender Harbour. > But stuff like this makes me realize that I've become somewhat culturally > deprived. It's all net stuff, you just need to learn how to find links to it. I can send you a few. > Do you, or Gordo, know where it was filmed? It felt like NYC and he/it was a regular on the Letterman show which is based here. I just looked it up and it was at a NYC theatre. It's all "it's not mean if it's true" humor. My favorite is the dragonmaster with the filet 'o fish. > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It's all net stuff, you just need to learn how to find links to it. I > can send you a few. Sure, I'd appreciate that. waterspider at sunshine dot net Thanks, I like to laugh just about more than anything else! Spidey > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > My favorite is the dragonmaster with the filet 'o fish. Pretty funny web site. Thanks for the link. SignatureCody Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me. Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail. > .. > >> Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > The Star Wars Geeks *is* a classic. Possibly the funniest remote video ever. Someone loaned me the Triumph DVD (available on NetFlix) and even though I didn't think I'd like it I was getting laugh cramps from laughing so hard. Most of it is as funny as this one bit. > Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: > > http://www.devilducky.com/media/2536/ Well, it was SO funny Gordo. Triumph is great when asks the little girl: "Which of your parents forced you to do this?", or when he pisses Darth <whatever> off. Thanks, really funny, my collegues here are still wondering what I was laughing off, but I'm going to see the next one now. Hope you're doing fine. Cheers, jeeb. > > Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Triumph is great when asks the little girl: "Which of your parents > forced you to do this?", or when he pisses Darth <whatever> off. This site has some good ones. There's the classic farting preacher: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2675927 http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2682802 http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2682797 And the classic christmas morning re-interpreted: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2458334 There are more triumph videos online, too... G >> > Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: >> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > There are more triumph videos online, too... Hey Gordy try these.... 1. Two gay guys were in the shower together when one looked down and saw a puddle of white liquid. He said to the other man, What did I tell you about farting in the shower? 2. Did you hear about the two homosexual judges? The kept trying each other. 3. How can you make a gay man scream twice? **** him real hard. Then wipe your dick off on his curtains. 4. Why did the little Greek boy run away from home? He didn’t like the way he was being reared. 5. Why do so many gays have moustaches? To hide the stretch marks. such a classy guy. gee doug, what's your ethnic background? maybe we can find some neat humor in your honor.... >>> > Triumph the Insult Comic Dog: >>> > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > 5. Why do so many gays have moustaches? To hide the stretch marks. > such a classy guy. > gee doug, what's your ethnic background? maybe we can find some neat > humor in your honor.... Pretty hard to find anything funny about a bigot :( Spidey Re: Dave - Glad to have you aboard! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 12:46am (CST+6) From: ga_mondragon@yahoo.com (Gordo Mondragon) It's rare that this happens but your name harkens back to a time when people could smoke and just enjoy it and it makes me want a cigarette so bad. It's OK, no prob, it just makes me stronger :) G In article <y7Gsf.13930$OU5.9836@clgrps13>, "chester field" <chester23@sphinx.net> wrote: [...] //////////// I'm going to quit....it's a New Year's resolution. :-) elmo (puffing on his Pall Mall and drinking coffee) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least > surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value perhaps > to you as well. > > Chester Field Oh I'll change my name 3 times, kiss Cody's butt, kick my heels together, and eat the bunny... eh? Doug >> are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least >> surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value perhaps [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh I'll change my name 3 times, kiss Cody's butt, kick my heels together, > and eat the bunny... eh? Doug LOL! Oh that's *so* funny! LOL! Let's see if I can be funny too. Did it ever occur to you that God gave you hep c because you're such a dork? LOL! (Spidey's evil twin) >>> are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least >>> surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > LOL! Oh that's *so* funny! LOL! Let's see if I can be funny too. Did it > ever occur to you that God gave you hep c because you're such a dork? LOL! Probably you're right........... Ahhahahaha! Doug >>>> are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least >>>> surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Probably you're right........... Ahhahahaha! Doug Damn, you just warm my heart sometimes. I think we're going to be friends in spite of all the other crap. Or are you just making fun of me? Waterspider >>>>> are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least >>>>> surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Waterspider Hi Spidey! I wouldn't make fun of you.... At least I wouldn't try to..... :-) Doug Re: Dave - Glad to have you aboard! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 8:06pm (CST+1) From: dttrash@adelphia.net (Doug) "chester field" <chester23@sphinx.net> wrote in message news:y7Gsf.13930$OU5.9836@clgrps13... are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value perhaps to you as well. Chester Field Oh I'll change my name 3 times, kiss Cody's butt, kick my heels together, and eat the bunny... eh? Doug ////////////// You don't have to eat the bunny, Doug. I will. :-) You can kiss Cody's a.s if you want to, tho. elmo (doesn't taste like fried chicken) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Re: Dave - Glad to have you aboard! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 8:06pm (CST+1) From: dttrash@adelphia.net (Doug) are wee styl burning ideas at the steak? Doug. I am not in the least surprised by your disconnected opinions. they are of little value perhaps to you as well. Chester Field Oh I'll change my name 3 times, kiss Cody's butt, kick my heels together, and eat the bunny... eh? Doug ////////////// You don't have to eat the bunny, Doug. I will. :-) You can kiss Cody's a.s if you want to, tho. elmo What's that taste? mmmhhh minty chooocolate? Mentholated! Ahahahaha! Doug Welcome to the group, OB. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum |
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