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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / December 2005One more comment about Religion
Paul2,Ray and the others that can't understand why the sane minority(according to you) find Christian's offensive when they start their preaching and sharing their religious beliefs.These links are just an example of the Hate and Intolerance that the AFA(members of the supposed 95%)seem to adore and expect the rest of us to do the same.None you guys subscribe to these beliefs do you? http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512060388/1148 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php Peace & SVR, BrianD Brian, I don't even know what the "AFA" is so I certainly can't be a member or subsribe to their beliefs. I'm not even sure why you included me in your attack. Some Christians may be "preaching and sharing their religious beliefs" but I haven't. If you would be willing to listen I'd be more than happy to share what I believe and why... When people swear, use the Lord's name in vain, or talk filthy it's even more offensive than the "preaching and sharing of religious beliefs". I hear "gutter talk" daily but I seldom ever hear someone sharing the good news. There are fanatics in everything not just religion. There are sports fanatics, food fanatics, and sex fanatics just to name a few. There are lots of people to you could go after, why waste your time on a few people who have found a source of spiritual comfort? Merry Christmas Ray > Paul2,Ray and the others that can't understand why the sane > minority(according to you) find Christian's offensive when they start [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Peace & SVR, > BrianD "American Family Association". They're working hard to deny women reproductive choices and to deny gay people equal rights. They represent themselves as christians but they are evil, mean, lying, hateful people. You expect respect for your religious beliefs. I expect respect for my not having them. Works both ways. Gordo > Brian, I don't even know what the "AFA" is so I certainly can't be a member > or subsribe to their beliefs. I'm not even sure why you included me in your [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Peace & SVR, > > BrianD Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn't why would they charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is pregnant???? As far as gay rights, well you wouldn't like what I'd have to say about that one so we'll let that slide.... > "American Family Association". > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> > Peace & SVR, >> > BrianD Oh Ray. You're so predictable. Yawn. kj a female >by "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> Dec 7, 2005 at >11:48 PM Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn't why would they charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is pregnant???? As far as gay rights, well you wouldn't like what I'd have to say about that one so we'll let that slide.... > "American Family Association". > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Gordo It's Ok, you don't have to apologize for being "female" you can't help the way you were born! <grin> :-) BTW, the reason I am so "predictable" is because I am normal... A Male > Oh Ray. You're so predictable. Yawn. > kj > a female > Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > > In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn't why would they > charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is > pregnant???? Because they don't in all cases? Because there's a distinction in many cases between "homicide" and "feticide"? Because people can make a distinction between a right to not have a pregnancy interrupted by force and preventing a woman from choosing not to be pregnant? Because almost all the laws that change assault on a pregnant woman into something closer to murder have been enacted in the last couple of years as part of a plan by the forced-incubation movement to slowly take away a woman's right to choose what she does with her body? Is that what you're referring to? You don't have to bother to answer, in the interests of the rest of the newsgroup you're going into my killfile. > As far as gay rights, well you wouldn't like what I'd have to say about that > one so we'll let that slide.... Yeah, probably not. That's what's so hypocritical about a lot of the christianists - you want all the rights in the world as well as the right to deny other citizens equal rights. You and your kind can just f.ck off, you're a threat to the future of this country and the rest of the world. G C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he answered. Besides these are issues not individuals that's why you shouldn't get so hot.... Doug >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > G I'm mostly ok with your posts, Doug, but you got this one wrong. What you speak of most definitely ARE individiuals, rather than issues. Perhaps your somewhat distant perspective springs form the fact that you are neither female nor gay? With respect, Kathy OK, I'm coming out of the closet. I'm going to say what I have to say and then I'll try not mention Christianity for a good long while in this group. Then you can all put me in your killfiles. OK................. I LOVE JESUS....... There is magic in His name There is strength in His spirit There is love in His heart and there is birth in Belief.............. Doug > OK, I'm coming out of the closet. I'm going to say what I have to say > and then I'll try not mention Christianity for a good long while in this [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and there is birth in Belief.............. > Doug The orchestra swells, a blinding light bursts from above the curtain of the stage, Doug is bathed in this beautiful light, the beatific smile on his face, his closed eyes and peaceful expression tell the tale of great faith, pure joy, an undying belief, a true oneness with the lord god almighty, his saviour and his master.... and then.... A whole herd of those little guys in white suits come running from Stage Left to haul Doug off to Happy Acres. Whoopee! With respect, Waterspider You had way too much lotus flower soup for brekkie, Doug cactus jammies veggie w.nking banana brain .......................................................................... > OK, I'm coming out of the closet. I'm going to say what I have to say > and then I'll try not mention Christianity for a good long while in this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Doug > C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I > think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he > answered. Besides these are issues not individuals that's why you > shouldn't get so hot.... Doug Doug, if people don't address these "issues" as individuals, then the issues become non-issues and the next thing you know they're an acceptable part of society, then they become legislated, then we're back to making birth control illegal and bashing gays. Oh, sorry, I forgot. Some of us are still doing that. Yeah. Get hot. It *is* important. WS >> C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I >> think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yeah. Get hot. It *is* important. Is it important in relationship to hcv or to the alt.religion.talk.talk? We don't need it here. Did you ever hear the never ending song? "This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend, Some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue singing it forever just because... This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend...., This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend, Some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue singing it forever just because... This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend....," etc....Doug three dog night? >>> C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. >>> I think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > etc....Doug > three dog night? > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> etc....Doug I think it was Lambchops!? ahahahah Doug Shari Lewis and Lampchop, I think. > three dog night? > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > etc....Doug I 'knew' it was one of my favorites anyway! > Shari Lewis and Lampchop, I think. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> > >> > etc....Doug >> C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I >> think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yeah. Get hot. It *is* important. Is it important in relationship to hcv or to the alt.religion.talk.talk? We don't need it here. Did you ever hear the never ending song? "This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend, Some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue singing it forever just because... This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend...., This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend, Some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue singing it forever just because... This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friend....," etc....Doug > >> C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I > >> think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Is it important in relationship to hcv or to the alt.religion.talk.talk? > We don't need it here. Did you ever hear the never ending song? It's an issue for me personally to have discussions with and be supportive of people who don't believe that I deserve equal rights, and who support those who would enforce that subservient status via laws. That's why it's important to me in the context of this newsgroup. Though to be honest, someone who needs support is going to get it from me. It's impossible for me to not help people who need it no matter how high the likelihood that once they're done needing my help they'll go back to trying to kick me and people like me to the curb. As they say on the 'net, your mileage may vary. Gordo >>>>C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I >>>>think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Gordo What gets me is the Catholic Church in Spain getting their panties all in a twist over gay and lesbian marriage after what their priests did to those little boys and the subsequent cover up. Cody >>>>>C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. >>>>>I [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > a twist over gay and lesbian marriage after what their priests did to > those little boys and the subsequent cover up. Yes, that is terribly wrong and perhaps some executions or jail time will change this behavior but it individuals at fault and not God . Doug >>>>>>C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. >>>>>>I [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Yes, that is terribly wrong and perhaps some executions or jail time will > change this behavior but it individuals at fault and not God . Doug You don't think the vows of celibacy had anything to do with it? Cody [...] > You don't think the vows of celibacy had anything to do with it? Something confuses me: I know all these straight guys who complain about never being able to get laid. How come they're not out molesting kids? G > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > G Their celibacy isn't connected to some bleeding guy on a cross? Cody > > [...] > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Their celibacy isn't connected to some bleeding guy on a cross? Still doesn't explain it. Ah, one of those eternal mystery things... [...] > What gets me is the Catholic Church in Spain getting their panties all > in a twist over gay and lesbian marriage after what their priests did to > those little boys and the subsequent cover up. I'm wondering when the catholic church is really going to purge themselves of homosexual influence by painting over the ceiling of the sistine Chapel and over The Last Supper, and smashing up The Pieta. Hypocrites. G >> >> C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. >> >> I [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Gordo Well sure it's important so go ahead and email them but keep it off the board as you have so often told me. And btw you are important and you deserve any right that everyone else in the country has. Some religious people try to take that away from some because they translate the Bible with crap colored glasses on. I don't know if you should be married but you, if in a lifetime partnership, certainly have rights that are equal. But again these are political discussions, not even religious. "And we go on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue singing it forever just because..." Doug [...] > Well sure it's important so go ahead and email them but keep it off the > board as you have so often told me. And btw you are important and you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in a lifetime partnership, certainly have rights that are equal. But again > these are political discussions, not even religious. Doug - I think we have a lot fewer differences than it appears. Thanks. G > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > G awww geeee shucks I've always thought that.... ;-} Doug > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > G I respect that you don't share the love or belief I have, I never asked anyone to. I Love God, no matter what anyone says and I will post where I want just as you should too. This (ASHC) is not the forum to insult, to be crude, to mock or pass judgement on either the believers or the non believers. It goes all ways. Reverse discrimination is flyin all over the fricken place here. Just as Paul2 posted his kind of encouragement* boom*, he was jumped on, he made a bad responce to that and then the fight was on and at times I was ready to point out to each of you, where you went wrong, but then I remembered, neither side can see the other. That's why I refrained. I wish you all would. ps: I want nice people, kind people to share this world with me. I won't go along with any of this ugliness. Stop now! Ask yourself if this is what you want for yourself. We are all members of a group here, trying to talk to others about this freaking disease that has intruded in our lives, only we can understand what it has done to us. Why allow insults and such to hurt anyone of us. pie in the sky, eye.....aka....eileen Eileen. Of course, peace and understanding will always be the high road. Thanks for your comments. But my experience over the years in spiritual matters is that it will ALWAYS bring a point of contention. Jesus himself faced it 2000 years ago. It's human nature. The only thing that I find hard here is what you made mention of. It's not that some here don't like religious posts of any nature, its that their posts become the very thing that they are complaining about. My wife and I have belonged to a few missions oriented groups throughout the years, Youth With A Mission for one...And we found out very early that bringing Jesus into the mix, certainly opened up raw emotions. But really, I think thats the disired effect God wants. It's when we question our reality and understanding of life that we grow. And sometimes through introspection we know that buttons are being pushed in us for no apparent reason. God's finger on our pulse so to speak. Anyway, I certainly wont stop offering encourament and hope where I can. Lincoln coined a famous phrase: You can please some of the people all the time, And all of the people some of the time, But you can't please all the people all the time. The Lord bless you Eileen, shalom. PaulG. >> [...] >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > pie in the sky, eye.....aka....eileen > And we found out very early that bringing > Jesus into the mix, certainly opened up raw emotions. But really, I think > thats the disired effect God wants. It's when we question our reality and > understanding of life that we grow. OK - so if I posted something like: And we found very early that anytime someone brought up jesus that questioning their beliefs rationally opened up raw emotions. But really, I think that's the only way for them to let go of their superstitious training. It's when we question out our fictional view of reality and understanding of life that we grow. let me guess what your reaction would be. Could you even make the slightest effort to understand that if you talk about what your beliefs mean to you then that's a good thing, but when you insist that everyone must believe the same as you or they're deluded in some way that you are being insulting? The fact that it's been pointed out to you so often yet you continue doing it indicates that you don't care, that insulting other people takes back seat to your need for affirmation of your beliefs. As numerous people have pointed out, that doesn't make you a good christian. It just makes you an a.shole. G Ok Gordo, bottom line is, you don't know me. And what you write about me, although you're convinced differently, is TOTALLY wrong. I don't know your circumstances or why you are seeing things in my posts that in all honesty aren't there. Even if they sound like they are to you, weird as this may sound, they're not. I am sooo not like the person you keep trying to paint me as. But I know you're convinced otherwise, so be it. But you know what? If you knew me in person, I bet within half hour you'd be laughing and wondering how you ever thought I was a religious bible thumper. As I've said before, the written forum doesn't convey tone inflection, emotion, facial expression nor sincerity very well. But I'm not here to convince you of anything Gordo...Believe me when I say, "All the power in the world to you and your beliefs, what ever they are". God didn't ask me to convert the World, just learn how to love. And learning I am. Paul2 >> And we found out very early that bringing >> Jesus into the mix, certainly opened up raw emotions. But really, I think [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > G Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 1:26pm (CST-2) From: samiamtwoyou@yahoo.com (eileen) Gordo Mondragon wrote: In article <TaudnbdVTvQc6AXeRVn-qg@adelphia.com>, "Doug" <dttrash@adelphia.net> wrote: [...] Well sure it's important so go ahead and email them but keep it off the board as you have so often told me. And btw you are important and you deserve any right that everyone else in the country has. Some religious people try to take that away from some because they translate the Bible with crap colored glasses on. I don't know if you should be married but you, if in a lifetime partnership, certainly have rights that are equal. But again these are political discussions, not even religious. Doug - I think we have a lot fewer differences than it appears. Thanks. G I respect that you don't share the love or belief I have, I never asked anyone to. I Love God, no matter what anyone says and I will post where I want just as you should too. This (ASHC) is not the forum to insult, to be crude, to mock or pass judgement on either the believers or the non believers. It goes all ways. Reverse discrimination is flyin all over the fricken place here. Just as Paul2 posted his kind of encouragement* boom*, he was jumped on, he made a bad responce to that and then the fight was on and at times I was ready to point out to each of you, where you went wrong, but then I remembered, neither side can see the other. That's why I refrained. I wish you all would. ps: I want nice people, kind people to share this world with me. I won't go along with any of this ugliness. Stop now! Ask yourself if this is what you want for yourself. We are all members of a group here, trying to talk to others about this freaking disease that has intruded in our lives, only we can understand what it has done to us. Why allow insults and such to hurt anyone of us. pie in the sky, eye.....aka....eileen ////////////// Right on, Eileen!!!! elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >> >> C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. >> >> I [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Gordo Hey Gordo I can't begin to tell you how much I admire the person you are. I am a pretty simple soul, and I try hard to accept folks for who they are. You are special :) in a good way! You'd be welcome in my home any time. Sara [...]] > I can't begin to tell you how much I admire the person you are. I am a > pretty simple soul, and I try hard to accept folks for who they are. You > are special :) in a good way! You'd be welcome in my home any time. Gee, thanks. And you mine. My parents just raised me right, I guess. G Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 1:09pm (CST+1) From: puffler@wowway.com (Sara) "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ga_mondragon-FBB1B5.12392108122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com.. In article <nKKdndzCZKJc8wXeRVn-rA@adelphia.com>, "Doug" <dttrash@adelphia.net> wrote: "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> wrote in message news:11pfodvgbdo3158@corp.supernews.com... "Doug" <dttrash@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:uYydneFsUPssKQreRVn-jg@adelphia.com... C'mon Gordo, be nice... Ray's ok... Just stop coming back for more. I think somebody just trolled you two guys. Someone asked Ray, and he answered. Besides these are issues not individuals that's why you shouldn't get so hot.... Doug Doug, if people don't address these "issues" as individuals, then the issues become non-issues and the next thing you know they're an acceptable part of society, then they become legislated, then we're back to making birth control illegal and bashing gays. Oh, sorry, I forgot. Some of us are still doing that. Yeah. Get hot. It *is* important. Is it important in relationship to hcv or to the alt.religion.talk.talk? We don't need it here. Did you ever hear the never ending song? It's an issue for me personally to have discussions with and be supportive of people who don't believe that I deserve equal rights, and who support those who would enforce that subservient status via laws. That's why it's important to me in the context of this newsgroup. Though to be honest, someone who needs support is going to get it from me. It's impossible for me to not help people who need it no matter how high the likelihood that once they're done needing my help they'll go back to trying to kick me and people like me to the curb. As they say on the 'net, your mileage may vary. Gordo Hey Gordo I can't begin to tell you how much I admire the person you are. I am a pretty simple soul, and I try hard to accept folks for who they are. You are special :) in a good way! You'd be welcome in my home any time. Sara /////////// Mine too. Just keep your w.nker in your pants tho. :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum [...] > Mine too. Just keep your w.nker in your pants tho. :-) I only do guys with facial hair. G Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 11:32pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondragon@yahoo.com (Gordo Mondragon) In article <5904-4398BDCB-75@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: [...] Mine too. Just keep your w.nker in your pants tho. :-) I only do guys with facial hair. G //////////// I'll make sure I'm clean shaven when you drop by. :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > > Re: One more comment about Religion [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > //////////// > I'll make sure I'm clean shaven when you drop by. :-) Thanks :) G elmo, do you want me to send you the bunny mask too? good bunny or nasty bunny, we'll send e'm both. We've done away with masks, we're into exorcizing on the rack now. oooooo! cactus pugilis '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> Re: One more comment about Religion >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > G Send me the whole damn bunny so long as she's got big ears and a warm fuzzies. elmo /////// elmo, do you want me to send you the bunny mask too? good bunny or nasty bunny, we'll send e'm both. We've done away with masks, we're into exorcizing on the rack now. oooooo! cactus pugilis '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ga_mondragon-156577.19474508122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com... In article <5903-4398CE87-303@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 11:32pm (CST+6) From: ga mondragon@yahoo.com (Gordo Mondragon) In article <5904-4398BDCB-75@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: [...] Mine too. Just keep your w.nker in your pants tho. :-) I only do guys with facial hair. G //////////// I'll make sure I'm clean shaven when you drop by. :-) Thanks :) G http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Note to self... Gordo is sensitive about his being gay and kjoh is sensitive about being female... :-) >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > G And you're sensitive to not being able to exert governmental control over our behavior, while you think that any restrictions to your behavior wrt religion are completely unacceptable? > Note to self... > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > > G >Ray wrote: >by "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> Dec 8, 2005 at 04:10 PM >Note to self... >Gordo is sensitive about his being gay and kjoh >is sensitive about being female... Note to Ray: Blow me. kj In article <fc02a86f53e125cf946e9857d18f5ab2@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com>, > >Ray wrote: > >by "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> Dec 8, 2005 at 04:10 PM [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Blow me. I love it when women say that. G Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 6:13pm (CST+1) From: kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) Ray wrote: by "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> Dec 8, 2005 at 04:10 PM Note to self... Gordo is sensitive about his being gay and kjoh >is sensitive about being female... Note to Ray: Blow me. kj ////////////// <elmo's eyes bugging out of his head while he spits coffee all over his keyboard laughing his a.s off> You tell him, gal!! elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > > In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that's murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves.... whoops! down the drain! WS No, it usually takes a stepstool and paper towel to clean off the ceiling. Then in the trash with 'em....  SignatureShawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > WS Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 7, 2005, 11:29pm (CST-2) From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider) "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05... Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that's murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves.... whoops! down the drain! WS /////////// ahahahahahahahah!!!!!! <squirt, squirt> "OH, MY GOD!! WHAT HAVE I DONE?" http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >>Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > WS Not mention wet dreams. "Ever dream lucky and wake up cold in hand?" -Robert Johnson, Bluesman Cody The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human being alone. It's not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united... Duh!!! >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > WS > The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human > being alone. No sh.t. > It's not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united... Duh!!! Um, by masturbating you have removed any chance of that sperm being united to the egg so, well, you've killed it. Cody >>>Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>WS Your sperm is dead forever anyways. Any offspring would not have survived, or probably been expelled from the uterus almost right away after conception. With good chances of fallopian tube scarring. w.nk away horny toads, flutter your fingers chiquitas! cj very clean pjs. ................................. >> The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human >> being alone. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>> >>>WS For all you straight guys, do you know that having a w.nk is considered not only "sterile" sex and a sin because you're getting off without the possibility of producing brood, but also homosexual sex because you're having sex with yourself? So no touching yourself down there in pleasurable ways or you're a poofter! > Your sperm is dead forever anyways. Any offspring would not have survived, > or probably been expelled from the uterus almost right away after [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >>> > >>>WS On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:24:04 GMT, Gordo Mondragon <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com>, in message ID <ga_mondragon-59C358.11210908122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >For all you straight guys, do you know that having a w.nk is considered >not only "sterile" sex and a sin because you're getting off without the >possibility of producing brood, but also homosexual sex because you're >having sex with yourself? So no touching yourself down there in >pleasurable ways or you're a poofter! Ha ha ha. I'll have to find a bigger closet to hide in then Gordo. Paul <starts emptying clothes out of closet to make more room> SignaturePaul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:14:32 +0100, Michael Cody <nospam@nuncaspam.comorg>, in message ID <p5Ylf.129165$US.19759@news.ono.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >Um, by masturbating you have removed any chance of that sperm being >united to the egg so, well, you've killed it. Ssh !! Cody. You'll have everyone w.nking over their breakfast eggs now. SignaturePaul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email > On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:14:32 +0100, Michael Cody > <nospam@nuncaspam.comorg>, in message ID [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Ssh !! Cody. You'll have everyone w.nking over their breakfast eggs > now. LOL! Cody > On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:14:32 +0100, Michael Cody > <nospam@nuncaspam.comorg>, in message ID [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Ssh !! Cody. You'll have everyone w.nking over their breakfast eggs > now. No no no! Miscegenation! No race-mixing! Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 5:56pm (CST+6) From: dontspamme@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk (Paul) On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:14:32 +0100, Michael Cody <nospam@nuncaspam.comorg>, in message ID <p5Ylf.129165$US.19759@news.ono.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: Um, by masturbating you have removed any chance of that sperm being united to the egg so, well, you've killed it. Ssh !! Cody. You'll have everyone w.nking over their breakfast eggs now. SignaturePaul ///////////// I prefer w.nking on bisquits instead. You know......SOS (sperm on a shingle). ahahahahahahah!!!!!!!! elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum http://www.serve.com/bonzai/monty/songs/EverySpermisSacred Oh goody, someone who believes that christianity is a salad bar where one gets to pick the parts they like and skip over the parts that would be inconvenient to them. "The Sin of Onan" http://www.goodmorals.org/sterile.html G > The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human > being alone. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > WS > The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human > being alone. > It's not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united... Duh!!! Perhaps you should have another look at those biology books, Ray, because a fetus is not a baby. >>> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. >> >> So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that's >> murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus >> loves.... whoops! down the drain! boring thread lets eat pasta and ice cream. john > boring thread lets eat pasta and ice cream. john Sounds heavenly! Waterspider Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Dec 16, 2005, 11:18pm (CST-2) From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider) "john" <otk355@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1134796896.705556.154650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... boring thread lets eat pasta and ice cream. john Sounds heavenly! Waterspider /////////// Good treatment foods. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > WS So uuummmm.... I guess you never menstruate? And btw, If gay people and feminists need to put down my Lord Jesus then they make me really pissed off. I lump them in with muslims, who are trying to destroy this country, make no mistake I'm not perfect and now that I'm out of the closet so to speak... and also I think people like Gordo who tell people to get off certain issues because those issues don't fit into the group and then go and do the same thing with different issues must be just starting trouble or maybe they got their panties wedged up in their butt crack. Doug > >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > And btw, If gay people and feminists need to put down my Lord Jesus then > they make me really pissed off. Actually, your lord jesus didn't say anything about gay people. It's almost all old testament jewish stuff, next to other prohibitions that christians don't pay any attention to. Read your bible before you hit me over the head with it. > I lump them in with muslims, who are trying to destroy this country, make no > mistake I'm not perfect and now that I'm out of the closet so to speak... What's so fascinating is that the people who founded this country had a very clear goal to keep religion OUT of government. So the people who are looking to destroy this great country are those who are trying to change what the founders so carefully and clearly created by forcing their religion into government and forcing everyone to follow it. And it doesn't matter if those people are christians, mormons, or muslims - ANY religious group which attacks and tries to subjugate those who don't share their beliefs are an offense to everything this country stands for. A christian who wants to turn the US into a christian theocracy is just as vile as a muslim who wants us all to live under islamic law. > and also I think people like Gordo who tell people to get off certain issues > because those issues don't fit into the group and then go and do the same > thing with different issues must be just starting trouble or maybe they got > their panties wedged up in their butt crack. Well there we go. Honey, I don't wear panties no matter what your fantasies in that area are. What I and other people have been saying is: you are sharing this space with people who don't share your beliefs. If you want to get along you shouldn't tell people they are bad based solely on that fact. Gordo >> >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > christians don't pay any attention to. Read your bible before you hit > me over the head with it. Gordo what are you high? I didn't hit you with theBible. I never said Jesus said anything about gay people! Get off it will ya? Can't you read? Are you blinded by your fear of being discriminated against? I don't think Jesus would have cared if you're gay or not. He would have cared if you are kind and loving to your neighbor and treat your neighbor as yourself. Doug > >> >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Gordo what are you high? I didn't hit you with theBible. I never said > Jesus said anything about gay people! Get off it will ya? Can't you read? "if gay people and feminists need to put down my Lord Jesus". That's what you wrote. That's what I was responding to. > Are you blinded by your fear of being discriminated against? I don't > think Jesus would have cared if you're gay or not. He would have cared if > you are kind and loving to your neighbor and treat your neighbor as > yourself. Doug >>> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So uuummmm.... I guess you never menstruate? Certainly not by my own hand to achieve orgasm. Or are you confused about something here? > And btw, If gay people and feminists need to put down my Lord Jesus then > they make me really pissed off. > I lump them in with muslims, who are trying to destroy this country, Gays, feminists and Muslims all in bed together to destroy the US of A??? You live in a strange little world, my friend. Waterspider Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 7, 2005, 11:29pm (CST-2) From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider) "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05... Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that's murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves.... whoops! down the drain! WS ////////// Masturbation was supposed to be a sin. Actually, it was the 11th Commandment, but since Moses was a keen masturbator, he broke that part of the tablet off before descending from the mountain. :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > > Re: One more comment about Religion [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Commandment, but since Moses was a keen masturbator, he broke that part > of the tablet off before descending from the mountain. :-) Were his hands slippery? Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2005, 10:57pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondragon@yahoo.com (Gordo Mondragon) In article <5903-4398B527-285@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: One more comment about Religion Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 7, 2005, 11:29pm (CST-2) From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider) "Ray" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05... Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that's murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves.... whoops! down the drain! WS ////////// Masturbation was supposed to be a sin. Actually, it was the 11th Commandment, but since Moses was a keen masturbator, he broke that part of the tablet off before descending from the mountain. :-) ///////// Were his hands slippery? ////////// sh.t, I don't know. I'm not THAT old. They probably were tho. What the hell was he doing up there on that mountain by himself, anyway? Maybe he needed a little 'private time'. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Brian, I don't even know what the "AFA" is The American Family Association, a "faith-based" organization. Need I say more? WS > Paul2,Ray and the others that can't understand why the sane > minority(according to you) find Christian's offensive when they start [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512060388/1148 > http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php I see the point you're trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong arena. These examples merely show that (successful) business markets its products to the demographic most likely to spend its money on those products. I despise prejudice of any kind, but I believe that someone with a product to sell should be able to sell it to any group that he wants to sell it to. That's why this is a "free" country <repressed chuckle>. Waterspider [...] > I see the point you're trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong arena. > These examples merely show that (successful) business markets its products > to the demographic most likely to spend its money on those products. I > despise prejudice of any kind, but I believe that someone with a product to > sell should be able to sell it to any group that he wants to sell it to. That true. Ford can do what they want. But when they cancel a *successful* advertising plan based on pressure from a right-wing hate organization then it's time to make that known to the general public and let them appropriately reap all the bad press. Would they consider not having black people in their ads or giving corporate donations to charities that primarily help blacks because of pressure from the KKK? Would you do business with them if they did? That's what this is about. G >> I see the point you're trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong >> arena. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Would you do business with them if they did? > That's what this is about. I'd draw the line at the KKK connection because those guys are breaking the laws of basic freedoms. However, if they (any business) identified their market as primarily white and straight, what's wrong with targeting their ads to that group? WS > >> I see the point you're trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong > >> arena. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > market as primarily white and straight, what's wrong with targeting their > ads to that group? Because the vast majority of white straight people couldn't give a rat's a.s that Ford was also advertising to gay people, so the fact that Ford was _successfully_ advertising to the gay market doesn't stop them from buying Ford product. This hate group specifically says "we will boycott you if you give any money to any gay groups". So Ford says "sure, we'll stop giving them advertising dollars and we'll stop making charitable contributions". It's not about a simple business decision about where their target markets are, it's about a hate group getting Ford to cut off acknowledgement of what is already a proven money-maker to them. I suppose you could say that Ford had to choose one market over another but the AFA boycott of Disney did nothing but lead to higher revenues for Disney, and corporations are run by people and people can be held to ethical standards by their shareholders - not just raw profit. So there's no basis for Ford caving in like they did. The fact that two high-level Ford execs who are recent hires out of the Bush administration ("buy me some government!") who are also using Ford resources to push Alito, the latest right-wing activist nominee to the US Supreme Court were a big part of this makes it even clearer what's going on. So it's exactly like the KKK saying "if you advertise in Ebony or give money to "black" causes we will boycott you" and Ford saying "OK". G >> >> I see the point you're trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong >> >> arena. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > So it's exactly like the KKK saying "if you advertise in Ebony or give > money to "black" causes we will boycott you" and Ford saying "OK". I understand, and I agree. But I bought a Ford before I knew about this :( WS > I understand, and I agree. But I bought a Ford before I knew about this > :( > > WS hey you fordies and older... ha ha i gotta red big box Ford F250 1990 351cu.in. V8 4 x 4 standard cab that is in PERFECT shape sitting in the drive which I am trying to sell and which appears to becoming my big red chariot for gruelling tasks regardless of how many ads I run. So I guess this is another (free) ad, then. I will drive it anywhere the purchaser wants, free delivery, but I will stay for lunch and probably not leave right away. could possibly move in with you so be careful. might be hung over. ha ha price 4 Gs a steal, no JOKE ha ha cactus jammies ---------------> The Beast looks hungover but fit for whatever life offers or neglects: dressed in a comfy bathrobe and slippers boxer jocks orange and yellow sarong which is wrapped round his neck like Anwar used to do it. ha ha ha ha.... snort snort.... muddy brain ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> I understand, and I agree. But I bought a Ford before I knew about this >> :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > steal, no JOKE ha ha > cactus jammies ---------------> Okay, here's the deal. Send me a 300 dpi pic, I run you a fabulous display ad in the Harbour Spiel, including your free delivery to Pender Harbour. I think the price is a bit high, but, if you sell it here, and deliver it here, YOU buy ME lunch at the Grasshopper Pub. Whaddya say, cowboy? WS ws I am mulling your proposition. thanks cj ......................................................................................... >>> I understand, and I agree. But I bought a Ford before I knew about this >>> :( [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > WS > Paul2,Ray and the others that can't understand why the sane > minority(according to you) find Christian's offensive when they start [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Peace & SVR, > BrianD I don't believe in descrimination of any kind, Brain--period. Lumping all Christians into one group and saying we're all like that is kind of like saying all gay guys are swishy or all Jews are money-grubbing. My nephew's gay, and one of my most beloved friends is both Jewish and gay. I don't preach, and the only time I share my beliefs is when someone asks me. Please don't descriminate based on the fanatics--the ones who always manage to make the news because they make the noise. And I'm not sane! I'm one of the bozos on this bus, remember?! >>Paul2,Ray and the others that can't understand why the sane >>minority(according to you) find Christian's offensive when they start [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > And I'm not sane! I'm one of the bozos on this bus, remember?! I too consider myself one of those bozos, but I'm in good company. Thank you for saying what I was feeling. Dwight Not long ago, you tried to speak you mind Contradicting everything I testify Then you proceeded, to call me a liar I got so mad and I saw fire You don't know me, you don't know me You don't know me anymore You don't know me and don't try to snow me You don't own me anymore Sitting with your air of superiority You proceed to tell me what I think You interpret all my words, you know everything As you try to paint the picture black as ink You don't know me, you don't know me You don't know me anymore You don't know me and don't try to snow me You don't own me anymore How can you sit there with worthless accusations When you know you're living such a lie I'm sick to death of playing all these games I'm sick to death of giving one more try And how can you not have eyes to see Someone else's faults but think that you're just fine You say you want to straighten me out But let there be no doubt Take the blinders off your eyes before you mess with me You don't know me, you don't know me You don't know me anymore You don't know me and don't try to snow me You don't own me anymore As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think this is spot-on. > Not long ago, you tried to speak you mind > Contradicting everything I testify [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > You don't know me and don't try to snow me > You don't own me anymore > As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a > christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think > this is spot-on. Good Poem. This country was built by Christians... People like Gordo can't put shame on us anymore because we believe ... God is Good... Doug >>As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a >>christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like Gordo can't put shame on us anymore because we believe ... God is > Good... Doug Actually, the country belonged to native Americans and your Christians came over, slaughtered them and took their country away. In fact, the building of the USA is a history of bloodshed and murder. Tell the students in Chapultapec that were slaughtered by your marines how groovy the solders' god is. Or you can tell the hundreds of blacks that were lynched in the name of your pathetic god how groovy he is. Or, perhaps, you can explain to the hundred thousand Iraqis how groovy Bush's god is. EVERY single nation that has embraced Christianity has gone to war in the name of god. It's a dangerous religion that should be eschewed by everyone! Cody > > As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a > > christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think > > this is spot-on. > Good Poem. This country was built by Christians... It was founded by smart men who deliberately kept religion out of government, and who did not consider themselves christian. G >> > As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a >> > christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > G By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that: The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations. > >> > As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a > >> > christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has > not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations. Washington was a self-professed deist, not a christian. If you don't know what that means, look it up. G >> >> > As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a >> >> > christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > G Here ya go Gordy old boy... I looked it up ..... : a movement or system of thought advocating natural religion, emphasizing morality, and in the 18th century denying the interference of the Creator with the laws of the universe Doug >>>>As a comment on the current christianist radical-right "america is a >>>>christian nation" people who are trying to destroy our country, I think [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has > not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations. He owned slaves and felt when were property. He also believed in a non existant god. I hear, though, that he was a pretty good soldier and could kill Englishmen in the name of the "correct" god. Barf. Cody (top-post) Great poem, Ray. I like it because it expresses my feelings towards (some) Christians. Waterspider p.s. It's all a matter of perspective. > Not long ago, you tried to speak you mind > Contradicting everything I testify [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > You don't know me and don't try to snow me > You don't own me anymore Mr Fields is really appreciative of this delivery you've given us RAY. cdef ................................................. > Not long ago, you tried to speak you mind > Contradicting everything I testify [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > You don't know me and don't try to snow me > You don't own me anymore I am a Christian so big deal..... IT DOESN"T BELONG HEREEEEEEEEEE.............Unfortunaly a few who post here make average Christians look like fanatics. Enough with this sh.t already...........john >I am a Christian so big deal..... IT DOESN"T BELONG > HEREEEEEEEEEE.............Unfortunaly a few who post here make average > Christians look like fanatics. > Enough with this sh.t already...........john I agree. Waterspider |
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