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Thomas Wagner - 05 Dec 2005 20:34 GMT

An excellent summary of info, cautions, and interactions for the most
common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
http://www.hcvadvocate.org/library/herb_glossary.asp

Thomas

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kjoh - 06 Dec 2005 00:00 GMT

Good link, Thomas. Thank you. FWIW, the German E Commission is regarded as
a major authority in global herbal circles.

Kathy
Garlic Woman
(they didn't mention that it also keeps Werewolves away)

>INFO: Herbal Dietary Supplement Info
>by Thomas Wagner <.com> Dec 5, 2005 >at 03:34 PM
>An excellent summary of info, cautions, and >interactions for the most
>common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
>http://www.hcvadvocate.org/library/herb_glossary.>asp
>Thomas

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Michael Cody - 06 Dec 2005 01:15 GMT

> An excellent summary of info, cautions, and interactions for the most
> common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
> http://www.hcvadvocate.org/library/herb_glossary.asp
>
> Thomas

Thanks, Thomas. I bookmarked it.

Cody

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Doug - 06 Dec 2005 04:10 GMT

> An excellent summary of info, cautions, and interactions for the most
> common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
> http://www.hcvadvocate.org/library/herb_glossary.asp
>
> Thomas

Thanks Thomas, Doug

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Waterspider - 06 Dec 2005 08:11 GMT

> An excellent summary of info, cautions, and interactions for the most
> common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
> http://www.hcvadvocate.org/library/herb_glossary.asp

Good, but they blew it on milkthistleby saying that there was no scientific
evidence to prove that it *wasn't* beneficial for hep c. Bad! What was
interesting was the list of drugs counterindicated with milkthistle, most of
interest here I think being antidepressants.

WS

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Frank - 10 Dec 2005 14:04 GMT

>An excellent summary of info, cautions, and interactions for the most
>common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
>http://www.hcvadvocate.org/library/herb_glossary.asp
>
>Thomas

Thanks Tom, good stuff. I was surprised to see that Cayenne can lower liver
enzymes.

Also, from the same site is this list to avoid. Here, I was surprised that
Creatine is hepatotoxic. I wonder in what amounts?

http://www.hcvadvocate.org/hepatitis/factsheets_pdf/CAM_avoid.pdf

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Gordo Mondragon - 10 Dec 2005 15:26 GMT

I think it's *potential*, so that people with normal livers are fine.

Here's a study that showed no indication of any problems but these were
football players...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list
_uids=12701816&dopt=Abstract

> >An excellent summary of info, cautions, and interactions for the most
> >common herbal supplements is new on HCV Advocate:
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> http://www.hcvadvocate.org/hepatitis/factsheets_pdf/CAM_avoid.pdf

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Thomas Wagner - 10 Dec 2005 17:21 GMT

>Also, from the same site is this list to avoid. Here, I was surprised that
>Creatine is hepatotoxic. I wonder in what amounts?
>
>http://www.hcvadvocate.org/hepatitis/factsheets_pdf/CAM_avoid.pdf

Heh, that list is pretty extensive. It also lists Spirulina among the
hepatotoxic supplements. I remember a number of folks recommending it
for inclusion in a good liver diet in this group... Couldn't find a
source other than a case note on Spirulina hepatotoxicity that's not
freely accessible anywhere, though.

Thomas

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Frank - 10 Dec 2005 18:31 GMT

>>Also, from the same site is this list to avoid. Here, I was surprised that
>>Creatine is hepatotoxic. I wonder in what amounts?
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>Thomas

And I can't find any evidence that Creatine is hepatotoxic. In fact studies
show no change in liver enzymes after 20 weeks of use.

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Waterspider - 10 Dec 2005 20:15 GMT

>>Also, from the same site is this list to avoid. Here, I was surprised
>>that
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> source other than a case note on Spirulina hepatotoxicity that's not
> freely accessible anywhere, though.

Yup, spirulina is one of the few consistently recommended supplements for
heppers. My experience with it was good because it relieved lethargy and
brainfog. On the other hand, it's got to be high in iron, so maybe that's
where the hepatoxic condition comes from.

I'd be interested in seeing any more info on this. Thanks,

Waterspider

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