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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / December 2005Don't smoke your bibles, don't lose your wits
Hey now, when the devil comes a knockin at your door, ya gotta stamp him out, and put him back down in the hole. Life has been gettin' very complicated lately. Somethings happening here and I don't know what it is, Probably stress and hep, a great combo to an early demise. I'm suddenly developing liver spots, like over nite, my feets which haven't failed me yet, are cold all the time, can't get em warm and fingers and toes are tingling and numb. Things were like this back in 83 but I was drinking like mad and shooting dope like a major. Also got some nasty looking skin mutations on my legs....My wife is stuggling through the neouro-lymes treatment and may be going on IV feed for the anti biotics next month. LAst count at the docs was norm, but VA doesn't like to freely give Pcr's so I may take myself and Abenaki Artie down to the local community health care for testing with medicare card. The VA, did my paper work wrong 3 years ago, gave me bene's they say I didn't deserve, (Seven fuckin years, 17 months on the dmz, keepin the friggin shovelheads from developing nukes and headin south for fresh rice and Kimchea) and they tell me I ain't deserving and also by the way Mr peckerwood, you owe US for all the visits, endoscopy's etc, although It was our mistake...."Don't smoke your bible. don't lose your wits, the choppers filled with your gut-shot friends and your heart is filled with fear".....Well if it ain't one thing its another. We are livin paycheck to paycheck, thats ssdi folks, and I'm so fuckin happy to be a Christian. Can't wait to see what HE has in store for me next...Can't send me to hell, its use less. Can't get scared no more, maybe I could get the advocates job....Go over to Afrika and devour a few nations, Aids, bird flu, massacre's, children with guns....I'll call myself the United Nations.....Ho HO HO, Ho de door, I'm takin a bribe....Zulu's and Tarzan, can get it all on tape and get an Oskar...Oh my God, is that Louie Armstong singing? Quick somebody give me a brick so's I can shut him up. Ami I Ramblin, well sorry, my brains shot too, can't even read a book no more, But i got one of them Gidgeon bibles, pocket size, and the pages work just like "Bamboo's.... Time for my lithium, think I'll smooth em out tonight with a bit of trazadone.....Nighty night.... Bobby What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother just stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we depart this life for the other is our Character. Character like diamonds can only come forth after huge amounts of pressure, over a long period of time. I served my country also during the cold war over in Germany. We were told that we were the free world's first line of defence..and as such you are written off within minutes of engaging the Red Horde when and if they decided to come through E\Germany... Well, they decided 7 years into my service that being a hemophiliac wasn't a good thing for a soldier...so I got the boot...no pension, no pat on the back, nothing. I dealt with the bitterness of that for years..Its one thing to be betrayed by a friend, and another by a Country... Anyway, I'm a Christian and have struggled many, many, days over my lot in life...But if you're serious about the legacy our Christian brothers have left us over the years then you have to know that pressure, hardships, and even martydom are all part of the Cbristian experience... I was watching a bunch of seagulls one day down by our lake....The wind was howling of the bay and all the segulls were facing into the wind, just standing there. I watch for a bit and made note of how effortlessly they took off in flight. All they had to do was open their wings and the strong headwind lifted them up... We have to do the same with our hard circumstances. If we turn in the face of strong winds all that does is ruffle our feathers. Lets face the strong wind and rise above it. Jesus knows I'm not preaching at you, this is as much for me as anyone. We need Him, but we need each other as well. Don't let the enemy snuff out your love and hope. The real war is in the spiritual realm anyway...Soldier on mate!!! Fight the good fight!! Paul2 > Hey now, when the devil comes a knockin at your door, ya gotta stamp him > out, and put him back down in the hole. Life has been gettin' very [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > trazadone.....Nighty night.... > Bobby Please leave your non existant god out of the discussions. I am really trying to be nice here but you are tempting me ... not everyone believes in your Christian god, you know. Cody > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother just > stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we depart this [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >>trazadone.....Nighty night.... >>Bobby |Please leave your non existant god out of the discussions. I am really |trying to be nice here but you are tempting me ... not everyone believes |in your Christian god, you know. | |Cody Hey Cody, we weren't too awful when you were doing your daily Buddhist posting. I think this is a great time to agree to disagree and ignore the posts that offend you personally, 'k? > |Please leave your non existant god out of the discussions. I am really > |trying to be nice here but you are tempting me ... not everyone believes [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > posting. I think this is a great time to agree to disagree and ignore > the posts that offend you personally, 'k? I recall Cody getting more than a few flames about the Daily Messages (I think one even came from me), and in all fairness he didn't bring up the religious thread. I don't think that we should have to ignore posts that offend us, any of us, for any reason. The trick is to confine it to the thread and not let the discussion degrade to sh.t-flinging. <g> WS Cody, did I say everyone believed in "my" God? What gives you the right to tell me to keep my opinions out of this forum? You dont look like McCarthy. Back off Cody, you're wrong on this one. Paul2 > Please leave your non existant god out of the discussions. I am really > trying to be nice here but you are tempting me ... not everyone believes [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>trazadone.....Nighty night.... >>>Bobby > Cody, did I say everyone believed in "my" God? What gives you the right to > tell me to keep my opinions out of this forum? > You dont look like McCarthy. > Back off Cody, you're wrong on this one. You don't know the history. Posting things like "bibilical fact" is almost as ludicrous and insults the intelligence as much as the Intelligent Design/Adam and Eve theory. You really don't want to get me started on this. As you say, however, you are free to post anything you want -- and so am I. Cody > Paul2 > [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >>>>trazadone.....Nighty night.... >>>>Bobby Thanks Cody, Hmmm by the way, do you know of any file converter that will convert *.cwk files into *.jpg files? My little sister has a Mac and just sent me some photos of her new house. They came in cwk format. I've never heard of that. But, have never even sat down at a Mac. So, I'm clueless. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks again.  SignatureShawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) > Please leave your non existant god out of the discussions. I am really > trying to be nice here but you are tempting me ... not everyone believes [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>trazadone.....Nighty night.... >>>Bobby > Thanks Cody, Hmmm by the way, do you know of any file converter that will > convert *.cwk files into *.jpg files? My little sister has a Mac and just > sent me some photos of her new house. They came in cwk format. I've never > heard of that. But, have never even sat down at a Mac. So, I'm clueless. Any > help would be appreciated! Thanks again. No, sorry. I haven't fooled with a MAC since 1985. Then I went to an IBM 286. I believe, however, that she can save her scans in .jpg format with a MAC. Cody .cwk is an extension for Clarisworks aka Appleworks. There are some shareware programs for the PC to read them, icWord looks like on (at the end of this page...) http://www.topshareware.com/005-1-11.htm > Thanks Cody, Hmmm by the way, do you know of any file converter that will > convert *.cwk files into *.jpg files? My little sister has a Mac and just > sent me some photos of her new house. They came in cwk format. I've never > heard of that. But, have never even sat down at a Mac. So, I'm clueless. Any > help would be appreciated! Thanks again. > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother just > stating a biblical fact. LOL. The Bible has no facts, just lies. And, you just lied, you *are* preaching. There is no evidence that believing in a non existant god like the one the Christian Church uses to control people provides any cure for Hep C so please stop your preaching. Thanks, Cody Cody: I respect your right to "believe" what you want...Why can't you do the same? If saying there is "no" God isn't preaching, I don't know what is(according to your criteria of preaching) Believing that there isn't a God(you can't prove that theory)takes faith............faith is believing in something you can't see, touch, feel, or prove.........Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things yet seen" Saying there is "no" God is a statement of Faith, therefore as much a dogmatic stance as any Christian views you want to accuse us of. Cody, honestly, God isn't to blame for what ever bitterness and rage you are feeling toward Christianity. God is perfect, people aren't. Paul2 >> What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother >> just stating a biblical fact. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Cody > Cody: I respect your right to "believe" what you want...Why can't you do the > same? If saying there is "no" God isn't preaching, I don't know what > is(according to your criteria of preaching) You brought it up. > Believing that there isn't a God(you can't prove that theory)takes > faith............faith is believing in something you can't see, touch, feel, > or prove.........Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of > things yet seen" I am familiar with blind faith. It's rampant. People kill because of it. It's disgusting. > Saying there is "no" God is a statement of Faith, therefore as much a > dogmatic stance as any Christian views you want to accuse us of. Yes, a statement of faith based on actual proof, not some theory. I also believe the world is not flat and that pigs don't have wings. Your point? > Cody, honestly, God isn't to blame for what ever bitterness and rage you are > feeling toward Christianity. Of course not, there is no god. > God is perfect, people aren't. Tell that to the god fearing people in New Orleans, Texas and Mississipi. God is perfectly non existant. Cody > Paul2 > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >>Cody Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your ancestors? Sorry, just had to... Peace, shalom, good fortune, whatever... Paul2 >> Cody: I respect your right to "believe" what you want...Why can't you do >> the same? If saying there is "no" God isn't preaching, I don't know what [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>> >>>Cody > Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your ancestors? > > Sorry, just had to... Perhaps the Christian religion would be more tolerant if it acknowledged that we *all* have the same ancestors. Sorry, just had to... <evil grin> Waterspider > Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your ancestors? So, this means you have blind faith in intelligent design too? > Sorry, just had to... Well, aren't you the cute and clever one. > Peace, shalom, good fortune, whatever... > > Paul2 So, I take it that because you cannot do anything but hurl an ad hominem attack that you cede the debate and accept the fact that god doesn't exist? Cody >>>Cody: I respect your right to "believe" what you want...Why can't you do >>>the same? If saying there is "no" God isn't preaching, I don't know what [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>>> >>>>Cody >> Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your >> ancestors? > > So, this means you have blind faith in intelligent design too? Cody, don't you know the Beauty of it all , it is all based on belief......"Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness." Genesis 15:6 Doug >>>Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your >>>ancestors? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > belief......"Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as > righteousness." Genesis 15:6 Doug Yada, yada, yada. Blind faith is blind faith. Cody >>>>Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your >>>>ancestors? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cody You finally got it Cody! Doug > Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your ancestors? > > Sorry, just had to... > > Peace, shalom, good fortune, whatever... You mean there are early human hominids in Ameriacan zoos? As they say "only in Ameriaca" SignatureLu Tze Whale Oil Beef Hooked. >> Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your >> ancestors? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You mean there are early human hominids in Ameriacan zoos? > As they say "only in Ameriaca" Hey Lu Tze, good to hear from you again. Hope the world is treating you well, or at least not shoveling too much sh*t your way. Dwight >>> Great Cody, have you been to the zoo lately and said hi to your >>> ancestors? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Dwight Hi Dwight. Essentailly it's the same ol' same ol'. Just anticipating the end of January to find out if the 7 months I tolerated was enough to clear. Same as last time I was clear when I finished treatment but it's the 6 month bugger that counts but to be honest the way I feel is not dissimilar to the way I felt just over 2 years ago when I began this campaign. So I am prepared for the worst but will grudgingly accept the best if offered. Upper lip is starched and ready for use. You take care of yourself and have a bloody good holiday season. Regards and respect.. SignatureLu Tze Whale Oil Beef Hooked. "Paul2" <emperorwoo@nospam.rogers.com> wrote > > Believing that there isn't a God(you can't prove that theory)takes > faith............faith is believing in something you can't see, touch, > feel, or prove.........Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the > evidence of things yet seen" > Saying there is "no" God is a statement of Faith, therefore as much a > dogmatic stance as any Christian views you want to accuse us of. I don't believe in God for the same reasons I don't believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and the angel lady on the cloud in the Philladelphia Cream Cheese commercial. There is simply no evidence that there is a god, heaven, hell, afterlife or whichever way you want to go with it. It is simply mythology. Personally, I thought the pre-Christian gods were far more interesting :) Waterspider On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:50:25 -0800, "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net>, in message ID <11pagm1ta59ar90@corp.supernews.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >I don't believe in God for the same reasons I don't believe in Santa Clause, >the Easter Bunny and the angel lady on the cloud in the Philladelphia Cream >Cheese commercial. There is simply no evidence that there is a god, heaven, >hell, afterlife or whichever way you want to go with it. It is simply >mythology. Personally, I thought the pre-Christian gods were far more >interesting :) To take it a stage further, if there were cast iron evidence of the existence god (as in omnipotent being), perhaps there would be no need for faith (this is starting to sound like that Hitchhiker's Guide logic). :-) SignaturePaul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email >> What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother just >> stating a biblical fact. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Cody Cody....Everyone needs someone or something to lean on to get them through hard times. Let it be. Please. /greyhackles > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother > just stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we > depart this life for the other is our Character. > Character like diamonds can only come forth after huge amounts of > pressure, over a long period of time. Thank You for that great reply Paul2. Fight the good fight my friend. Scott > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother just > stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we depart this [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Paul2 As much as it bothers others here, I think you made a very supportive and encouraging response to Bobby, the way you know how. I appreciate the words also.........................eileen Would you be willing to send me your e-mail address? You and I have MUCH in common and I'd like to correspond with about some things if you're Ok with that! Ray > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother > just stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >> trazadone.....Nighty night.... >> Bobby as a matter of a fact would you religious cats and dogs please remove this chat to someother flame site or e-mail ring? this religious dueling is far from topical and very frowned upon by most, these days this is a chronic illness support group. thank you and good day by Godesses' Grace cactus jammies -------------------- 8 Cups full trying hard to get my ashes hauled to some other place ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > Would you be willing to send me your e-mail address? You and I have MUCH > in common and I'd like to correspond with about some things if you're Ok [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >>> trazadone.....Nighty night.... >>> Bobby I posted this before but didn't do it right. This message is for Paul2. Would you be willing to send me your e-mail address? You and I have MUCH in common and I'd like to correspond with about some things if you're Ok with that! Ray > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother > just stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >> trazadone.....Nighty night.... >> Bobby > What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Ain't preaching at ya brother > just stating a biblical fact. All that remains of who we are when we > depart this life for the other is our Character. > Character like diamonds can only come forth after huge amounts of > pressure, over a long period of time. Good sentiment, Paul, but I see things a little differently. Bobby, are you reading this? Your situation has nothing to do with God or religion. It's just a bitch of a place to find yourself after you've done nothing wrong in your life... life's not been kind to you and there ain't no great reward on the other side of the rainbow. But I think I know you well enough to say that you get pleasure out of many things in life, especially music and people and better yet if the two are combined. That's your joy. And you're obviously one tough motherf..ker too, and that's how you handle the pain and the grief and the craziness that is most of the rest of the world. But don't waste your time looking for strength up in the sky cuz it's not there. It's right inside you. You are the source of the strength and the happiness and the joy, not only for yourself but I'll bet you give a lot of all three to those who you spend time with. That's what it's all about, bud, and it's all in how you look at it. You're only here once, and you make of it what you make of it. You're a long time dead. All the best to you, Bobby. Now roll a nice blend and listen to some good tunes (but don't smoke your bible!). There will be good things in today, but you might miss them if you dwell on things you can't change. Waterspider Am having a hard time believing the VA is asking you to pay them back for bennies, much less that they say you didn't deserve them. That sucks big-time. You don't need the stress. Hang in there, bro. The sun will be shining tomorrow. God bless!! elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum |
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