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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / December 2005Risky business? Or not?
This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but because it just because it doesn't make any sense. It's frequently stated that having more than one sexual partner increases the risk of contracting hepatitis c. Okay, let's assume that blood-to-blood contact can occur during sex, and we all know that this is how HCV is transmitted. Now why would having two sexual partners be a risk when having just one partner isn't? Why would the risk be increased with the number of sexual partners? Am I missing something here? Waterspider > This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but > because it just because it doesn't make any sense. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Waterspider Dunno! I think it's a bullshit story myself. I've been putting in some serious research too. Besides, the doctor told me it wasn't and he was a top liver specialist. Firebird Never trust anybody who is too sophisticated to own a rubber chicken. http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/ >This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but >because it just because it doesn't make any sense. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Waterspider The common explaination is that with multiple partners (and I think they mean being very promiscuous), you increase the risk of encountering a partner where blood-to-blood contact can occur and the disease is spread. Sounds like a crock to me too. > >This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but > >because it just because it doesn't make any sense. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > where blood-to-blood contact can occur and the disease is spread. Sounds > like a crock to me too. Except that there seems to be almost zero risk of transmission between sexually active monogamous couples when one has Hep C and the other doesn't. In article <ga_mondragon-2FDEAB.17010625112005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.co m>, ga_mondragon@yahoo.com says... >> >This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but >> >because it just because it doesn't make any sense. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >sexually active monogamous couples when one has Hep C and the other >doesn't. Right and that's why I don't get their multiple partner statement. I've had this disease for 25 years and my wife doesn't have it. Of course I had my kids checked also. They're ok too. > m>, ga_mondragon@yahoo.com says... >>> waterspider@moonlight.net says... [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > disease for 25 years and my wife doesn't have it. Of course I had my kids > checked also. They're ok too. You guys are reiterating my thoughts exactly. The part that irks me is that the negative association, i.e. sexual promiscuity and hep c, propagates the stigma associated with the disease. Waterspider [...] > You guys are reiterating my thoughts exactly. The part that irks me is that > the negative association, i.e. sexual promiscuity and hep c, propagates the > stigma associated with the disease. So you get your choice of whore or junky :) G > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So you get your choice of whore or junky :) Yeah, they have way more pizzaz than hemophiliac. WS I recently happened upon an old HCV pamphlet.Just a few years ago people were advised to avoid using the same utensils,sterilize pretty much everything after HCV infected person has used it,and yes no sex at all with a infected person.This pamphlet was 13 years old. BrianD >> m>, ga_mondragon@yahoo.com says... >>>> waterspider@moonlight.net says... [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Waterspider Does this mean that a guy should sterilize his 'wanger' after having sex with an infected somebody? Just curious. :-) (soak it in bleach or alcohol, run it through the autoclace?) elmo ///////// I recently happened upon an old HCV pamphlet.Just a few years ago people were advised to avoid using the same utensils,sterilize pretty much everything after HCV infected person has used it,and yes no sex at all with a infected person.This pamphlet was 13 years old. BrianD "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> wrote in message news:11of5vjl2fdr0de@corp.supernews.com... "Frank" <HangininThere@verizon.com> wrote ... m>, ga_mondragon@yahoo.com says... HangininThere@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: waterspider@moonlight.net says... This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but because it just because it doesn't make any sense. It's frequently stated that having more than one sexual partner increases the risk of contracting hepatitis c. Okay, let's assume that blood-to-blood contact can occur during sex, and we all know that this is how HCV is transmitted. Now why would having two sexual partners be a risk when having just one partner isn't? Why would the risk be increased with the number of sexual partners? Am I missing something here? The common explaination is that with multiple partners (and I think they mean being very promiscuous), you increase the risk of encountering a partner where blood-to-blood contact can occur and the disease is spread. Sounds like a crock to me too. Except that there seems to be almost zero risk of transmission between sexually active monogamous couples when one has Hep C and the other doesn't. Right and that's why I don't get their multiple partner statement. I've had this disease for 25 years and my wife doesn't have it. Of course I had my kids checked also. They're ok too. You guys are reiterating my thoughts exactly. The part that irks me is that the negative association, i.e. sexual promiscuity and hep c, propagates the stigma associated with the disease. Waterspider http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Oooops, slip of the finger.....that's 'autoclave', not 'autoclace'. Soak it in the autoclave. :-) elmo ///////////// Does this mean that a guy should sterilize his 'wanger' after having sex with an infected somebody? Just curious. :-) (soak it in bleach or alcohol, run it through the autoclace?) elmo ///////// I recently happened upon an old HCV pamphlet.Just a few years ago people were advised to avoid using the same utensils,sterilize pretty much everything after HCV infected person has used it,and yes no sex at all with a infected person.This pamphlet was 13 years old. BrianD "Waterspider" <waterspider@moonlight.net> wrote in message news:11of5vjl2fdr0de@corp.supernews.com... "Frank" <HangininThere@verizon.com> wrote ... m>, ga_mondragon@yahoo.com says... HangininThere@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: waterspider@moonlight.net says... This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but because it just because it doesn't make any sense. It's frequently stated that having more than one sexual partner increases the risk of contracting hepatitis c. Okay, let's assume that blood-to-blood contact can occur during sex, and we all know that this is how HCV is transmitted. Now why would having two sexual partners be a risk when having just one partner isn't? Why would the risk be increased with the number of sexual partners? Am I missing something here? The common explaination is that with multiple partners (and I think they mean being very promiscuous), you increase the risk of encountering a partner where blood-to-blood contact can occur and the disease is spread. Sounds like a crock to me too. Except that there seems to be almost zero risk of transmission between sexually active monogamous couples when one has Hep C and the other doesn't. Right and that's why I don't get their multiple partner statement. I've had this disease for 25 years and my wife doesn't have it. Of course I had my kids checked also. They're ok too. You guys are reiterating my thoughts exactly. The part that irks me is that the negative association, i.e. sexual promiscuity and hep c, propagates the stigma associated with the disease. Waterspider http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum by elmoemerson@webtv.net Dec 2, 2005 at 08:42 AM >Does this mean that a guy should sterilize >his 'wanger' after having sex >with an infected somebody? Just curious. :-) >(soak it in bleach or alcohol, run it through >the autoclace?) >elmo ///////// Cut a hole in the microwave and poke it in there? Three minutes on defrost? I can't believe I said that. It must have been one of my other personalities. kj Re: Risky business? Or not? Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Dec 2, 2005, 12:14pm (CST+1) From: kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) by elmoemerson@webtv.net Dec 2, 2005 at 08:42 AM Does this mean that a guy should sterilize >his 'wanger' after having sex with an infected somebody? Just curious. :-) (soak it in bleach or alcohol, run it through >the autoclace?) elmo ///////// Cut a hole in the microwave and poke it in there? Three minutes on defrost? I can't believe I said that. It must have been one of my other personalities. kj /////////// I already tried that. :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum I think C.Everett Koop had a lot to do with the attitudes that have been promulgated from the CDC. When he was in office. I always got a "Queer" feeling from him as to the fact that sump'in ai'nt right wit dat boy! Could the chin beard be a type of subconscious replacement for any genitalia related problems?? Or maybe he was just the ships wife while at sea!!! Hmmm.....  SignatureShawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) > Does this mean that a guy should sterilize his 'wanger' after having sex > with an infected somebody? Just curious. :-) [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum No gay man would appear in public looking that that. He's one of yours. > I think C.Everett Koop had a lot to do with the attitudes that have been > promulgated from the CDC. When he was in office. I always got a "Queer" [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > No gay man would appear in public looking that that. He's one of yours. ROFL! WS Back when I was on treatment I remember this coming up, and thinking that there must be something else that people who have more partners are doing. More drugs? Rougher sex? Anal sex? More STDs? I don't think anyone has a clue. > This is something that's never sat well with me, not for moral reasons but > because it just because it doesn't make any sense. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Waterspider Too bad that people tend to generalize while in search for answers and corelatives. If looked at from a wider perspective, those people who many tend to take more of a risk in their sexual exploits than others may also fit ne > Back when I was on treatment I remember this coming up, and thinking > that there must be something else that people who have more partners are [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Waterspider Lets try that again. lap tops were not meant for the likes of Bill Gates. At least in this Outlook Express program. this is what I was saying: "Too bad that people tend to generalize while in search for answers and corelatives. If looked at from a wider perspective, those people who many tend to take more of a risk in their sexual exploits than others may also fit ne..." and it goes onto say ... fit demographically next to the same set of folks who tended to contract Hep C through IV drug usage and needle sharing. So perhaps we should just take note that once again statistics can lie when drawn upon to support hypotheses that the data were not meant to apply. In other words, a coincidence to us but a solid fact to a cement head. snowing here now. woodworking all day in carport cousin elmo's guitar is on the bench. getting the glue job. myrtle and mahogany with broadleaf maple, and some yew. So MYE, if you read this, snow is not the end-all of everything. 8-) Cactus Jammies > Too bad that people tend to generalize while in search for answers and > corelatives. If looked at from a wider perspective, those people who many [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>> >>> Waterspider > Lets try that again. lap tops were not meant for the likes of Bill Gates. > At least in this Outlook Express program. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > maple, and some yew. So MYE, if you read this, snow is not the end-all of > everything. 8-) Hi CJ, just had to give you a little dig here... Today, in Pender Harbour, the sun is shining and earlier I was wandering about in my yard with only a sweatshirt on, admiring the roses still in bloom! Myrtle is a great wood-- they named it after me. <grin> Spidey Gee WS you never have to change your underwear if all you got on is your tee shirt. Pretty handy that Pender Harbour. cactus jammies ...................................................... >> Lets try that again. lap tops were not meant for the likes of Bill >> Gates. At least in this Outlook Express program. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Spidey "cactus jammies" <cactusjammies@hotmail.com> wrote... > Gee WS you never have to change your underwear if all you got on is your > tee shirt. Pretty handy that Pender Harbour. <groooaaaaaannnnnnn> LOL @ CJ... you *know* what I meant! WS p.s. And it's a sweatshirt, not a t-shirt. It's not *that* nice here. >> Hi CJ, just had to give you a little dig here... Today, in Pender >> Harbour, the sun is shining and earlier I was wandering about in my yard [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> Spidey Today, in Pender Harbour, the sun is shining and earlier I was wandering about in my yard with only a sweatshirt on, <snip> WS ///////////// Showing off your bush beaver again, eh? ahahahahahaha!! elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Today, in Pender Harbour, the sun is shining and earlier I was >wandering about in my yard with only a sweatshirt on, <snip> >WS >///////////// >Showing off your bush beaver again, eh? >ahahahahahaha!! >elmo Careful now. Such activities can lead to increased risk for Hepatitis C infection. >> Today, in Pender Harbour, the sun is shining and earlier I was >>wandering about in my yard with only a sweatshirt on, <snip> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Careful now. Such activities can lead to increased risk for Hepatitis > C infection. RONLMAO!!!! Waterspider > Today, in Pender Harbour, the sun is shining and earlier I was > wandering about in my yard with only a sweatshirt on, <snip> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ahahahahahaha!! > elmo Ouch. Payback hurts! <g> Spidey |
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