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anemia recovery after end of treatment & other things

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ghibelno - 28 Oct 2005 16:17 GMT
Hi all,
 one month after the last ribavirin pill I had a lab test to check for
blood level as I suffered from anemia during treatment.

All blood levels are now in the lower side of normal range (hgb: 14,
WBC: 6, RBC: 4.4).
Besides, ALT is in the range and this is just another good thing.

I needed this, you all know what it means to feel like as you're
climbing the Everest mountain while you're just trying to go up some
stairs to reach your office in the morning ;)

In spite of this I still have bad time during the night.
I can't sleep well and I am suffering from this during the daytime.

Take care you all.

Cheers,
jeeb.
Gordo Mondragon - 28 Oct 2005 18:31 GMT
Getting my sleep back to normal took me a couple of months.  I finally
did go back to a normal, all-night sleep pattern.

Glad you're feeling better and your numbers are good.

> Hi all,
>   one month after the last ribavirin pill I had a lab test to check for
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Cheers,
> jeeb.
greyhackles - 28 Oct 2005 19:59 GMT
>Hi all,
>  one month after the last ribavirin pill I had a lab test to check for
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Cheers,
>jeeb.

That's excellent, jeeb. I've been following a very similar course of recovery,
and within 3 weeks of the last Riba caps I had made it back into the normal
range on all but a sllighty elevated MCV (reds were still just a bit on the
fat side of normal).

And boy does it feel great not to be dragging that anemia around any more!!

Cheers - and best wishes for your SVR!

/greyhackles
Canadave - 29 Oct 2005 02:30 GMT
Has anyone continued the EPO and/or Neupogen AFTER Tx, or does it all just
come back that quickly on it's own?

D

>>Hi all,
>>  one month after the last ribavirin pill I had a lab test to check for
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> /greyhackles
greyhackles - 29 Oct 2005 22:13 GMT
>Has anyone continued the EPO and/or Neupogen AFTER Tx, or does it all just
>come back that quickly on it's own?
>
>D

I had one last Epogen shot, two weeks after the final shot of PEG, one week
after the last handful of Riba caps. A week later and my HGB had made it to
12.4 - almost in the normal range for males - after languishing in the 9's for
9 months.

Results may vary, of course...

Cheers

/greyhackles
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 30 Oct 2005 14:42 GMT

Re: anemia recovery after end of treatment & other things  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 5:13pm (CST+2)
From: greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo.com (greyhackles)
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:30:29 -0400, "Canadave" <yeahright@noway.com>
wrote:
Has anyone continued the EPO and/or Neupogen AFTER Tx, or does it all
just come back that quickly on it's own?
D
I had one last Epogen shot, two weeks after the final shot of PEG, one
week after the last handful of Riba caps. A week later and my HGB had
made it to 12.4 - almost in the normal range for males - after
languishing in the 9's for 9 months.
Results may vary, of course...
Cheers
/greyhackles  
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My NP monitored my red counts closely while I was taking Procrit, not
only to make sure it didn't creep even lower, but in case it came back
up into the normal range so I could discontinue taking it.  She
mentioned that to continue taking Procrit when you don't need it anymore
could be dangerous.....stroke or heart attack...something along those
lines.
elmo

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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 29 Oct 2005 15:49 GMT

anemia recovery after end of treatment & other things  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 8:17am (CDT-2)
From: ghibelno@yahoo.it (ghibelno)
Hi all,
    one month after the last ribavirin pill I had a lab test to
check for blood level as I suffered from anemia during treatment.
All blood levels are now in the lower side of normal range (hgb: 14,
WBC: 6, RBC: 4.4). Besides, ALT is in the range and this is just another
good thing.
I needed this, you all know what it means to feel like as you're
climbing the Everest mountain while you're just trying to go up some
stairs to reach your office in the morning ;)
In spite of this I still have bad time during the night. I can't sleep
well and I am suffering from this during the daytime.
Take care you all.
Cheers,
jeeb.
///////////////
You should have used the elevator, Jeeb.  As your labs continue to
improve, so will your side effects.  You did good, man.  Be patient.  
elmo

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Michael Arends - 29 Oct 2005 17:44 GMT
Smiling Wickedly,  ghibelno answered:
> Hi all,
>   one month after the last ribavirin pill I had a lab test to check for
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> climbing the Everest mountain while you're just trying to go up some
> stairs to reach your office in the morning ;)

you mean it wasn't just me?   :-)

> In spite of this I still have bad time during the night.
> I can't sleep well and I am suffering from this during the daytime.

Me too.  I'm still taking Ambien to help with sleep, and will admit at
this point, that I'm addicted to them.   I can't sleep without them.
I will at some point have to talk to the doctor about this, as I don't
want to spend my life depending on sleeping pills.

> Take care you all.
>
> Cheers,
> jeeb.

you too Jeeb.

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Red Dwarf - 30 Oct 2005 00:59 GMT
Hi Michael and Jeeb, I'm glad your labs are back to normal Jeeb, as anemia
sucks. Last year I had a serious hemorrhage, and nearly bled to death, I was
rushed to hospital, as I was on coumadin(blood thinner to prevent clots),
and thereafter had anemia for weeks, and I never felt so weak in my life.
Just two or three steps and I was exhausted and out of breath.Scary stuff
man, so I know where you are coming from. Hope it's all better. Michael,
about this Ambien, you are not alone, and you must look out for memory loss,
and doing things you may regret later. One can and does build up a tolerance
to the drug, then it's common to increase the dosage, as I did to 11/2 per
evening.The problem is that.....well let me give you an example. Last night
I took Ambien as well as a Xanax to insure sleep. Apparently I got up around
4 or 5 a.m. to have a bowl of cereal, and then I woke up on the chair in
front of the TV at noon on Saturday. My back ached as well as some other
places and I felt like a fool, as I have a nice clean cozy bed waiting for
me, who the hell wants to go to bed at noon on a nice Saturday? Me that's
who! So I've just gotta watch that. Even worse, last week I took the same
thing and was about to go to bed, and my phone rang, and the gal 2 houses
down wanted me to come over for a while to talk and do a doobie. That
sounded good to me, but I had forgotten I've just had Xanax and Ambien, and
after about 1/2 hour I kept nodding out on her, which pissed both of us off.
Somehow I made it home, and literally passed out in my living room. We must
be careful with this stuff, especially me, as I also take pain killing meds
as well. It's bad enough taking and being hooked on narcos, but with the
Ambien and Xanax together, it's look out baby, I'm looking for a place to
lay my head down. I'm concerned about the same thing as you Mike, I don't
want to be hooked on all this crap. On the other hand, it's nice to be able
to sleep soundly, but I do wake up drowsy and with no memory of the previous
evenings activities. I'm still getting used to my medications. I have a
funny feeling that somehow I'm making up for the lack of weed, and tend to
over medicate myself when there is no weed access, or the money to buy some
when it's around.When I do have weed, I do not need all of this crap to
sleep or relax.
A very sleepy John in Honolulu (might as well be in Atlantic City) Good
luck guys.

> Smiling Wickedly,  ghibelno answered:
>> Hi all,
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>>
> you too Jeeb.
Michael Arends - 30 Oct 2005 17:36 GMT
Smiling Wickedly,  Red Dwarf answered:
> Michael,
> about this Ambien, you are not alone, and you must look out for memory loss,
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> after about 1/2 hour I kept nodding out on her, which pissed both of us off.
> Somehow I made it home, and literally passed out in my living room.

WOW.. Thats not happened to ME yet...

> We must
> be careful with this stuff, especially me, as I also take pain killing meds
> as well.

Me too.   My L3 and L4 disks in my back are herniated, and because of
that I'm taking 10mg. Oxycontin's (3 at a time) to control the pain. My
doctor TOLD me I'd probably become addicted to them, and we would have
to address that at a later date, perhaps putting me on Fentanol (sp?)
patches to control the back pain or something like that. But, I KNOW I'm
definitely addicted to the Ambien, I just can't sleep without them. Even
WITH weed. However, I love them, as I sleep well, and wake up feeling
refreshed. NO grogginess or hang over what so ever.

> It's bad enough taking and being hooked on narcos, but with the
> Ambien and Xanax together, it's look out baby, I'm looking for a place to
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>  A very sleepy John in Honolulu (might as well be in Atlantic City) Good
> luck guys.
You take care too John. HOPEFULLY we're taking care of business, and
fixing our problems for good so that we'll never have to do this again.

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