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Red Dwarf - 13 Oct 2005 11:38 GMT
Earlier today I watched one of those Animal planet programs(Jeff Corwin I
think), and they showed a few minutes of a liver transplant surgery. I could
not believe the size of the liver. It was probably from some sort of
accident victim, looked pretty healthy, but huge. It was shiny and sort of
liver colored,(sorry), but I was really amazed at the size of the damned
thing. Apparently I did not have a clue as to the relative size of the
different internal organs. It's no wonder now to me as how important the
health of that particular thing is. I mean we have two kidneys etc, and I
know that folks can survive with just one of them, but we have just one
liver.I don't think I could watch a whole operation though, it's kind of
gross. Just an observation.
John in Honolulu
twice_redeemed@yahoo.com - 13 Oct 2005 21:18 GMT
The liver is the size of a football.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 14 Oct 2005 14:19 GMT

Re: Liver size  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 1:18pm (CDT-2)
From: twice_redeemed@yahoo.com
The liver is the size of a football.
///////////
Which side are the laces on?
elmo

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twice_redeemed@yahoo.com - 14 Oct 2005 16:15 GMT
The top, of course.  The NFL logo is on the side.
Firestar - 14 Oct 2005 18:13 GMT
> Re: Liver size
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Which side are the laces on?
> elmo

For you, Elmo, I'm certain the laces are on the 'backside.'
Thom
burningdaylight - 15 Oct 2005 01:29 GMT
Hi John,
That's because you are used to seeing calves liver sliced with onions and
bacon with a side of mashed:-)
BTW how are you feeling?
Sue
Red Dwarf - 19 Oct 2005 08:28 GMT
Hi Sue, sorry for the lag in answering your question. I haven't been on much
lately. October has not been good to me I'm afraid. Actually I really
haven't felt well lately at all. But I don't think that my physical problems
have any direct connection to HCV(at least I don't think so).I recently
spent a week in the hospital in Honolulu with some kind of leg infection,
and was constantly given anti-biotic i.v. I think they called it cellulitis,
or something close.For a few days my right leg was really swollen and sore,
and hot to the touch as well as painful to the touch.This was a couple of
Sundays ago. By that evening I thought I should mention it to someone. I
called the advice nurse, who happened to be in San Francisco, and after
describing the symptoms I was told to get to the emergency room within two
hours.(I hate hospitals) It was so busy there, I would have thought that a
Sunday evening it would be quiet there. It was not. After extensive tests
and X-rays, they admitted me. As far as hospitals go this one is well
staffed, but as this was an Army base and hospital, it just seemed strange
to be treated by doctors and nurses wearing B.D.U's.(that's army uniforms).
I guess it was a good thing going when I did, as the ramifications of not
going was scary. To make a long story short, I am bandaged in something
called uuni boot on both legs from foot to knee.(at least the bandages are
flesh colored).It sucks,it's hot and itchy, and I can't wait to get it
off(weeks from now). Unfortunately while in the hospital in Honolulu, my Mom
passed away in Boston, and I couldn't be there for the end.I had to let my
two brothers handle all the details.So as you might imagine I feel guilty as
well as helpless. Thank goodness I have a shrink to help deal with all this
stuff.
Sorry if I overwhelmed you Sue, as I didn't mean to. But you asked. Other
than all this, things ore ok.
How are you feeling? Oh, yeah, by the way I've always loved liver of all
kinds, beef, calves, and best of all chicken livers wrapped in bacon,(yum).
What's going on with you?
John     (hot and sweaty in Honolulu, in the low 90's.)

> Hi John,
> That's because you are used to seeing calves liver sliced with onions and
> bacon with a side of mashed:-)
> BTW how are you feeling?
> Sue
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 19 Oct 2005 13:08 GMT
Sorry to hear of your woes, John.  You shouldn't feel guilty over not
being able to do anything about your Mom from the hospital.  Hope things
get better for you.  
elmo
/////////
Hi Sue, sorry for the lag in answering your question. I haven't been on
much lately. October has not been good to me I'm afraid. Actually I
really haven't felt well lately at all. But I don't think that my
physical problems have any direct connection to HCV(at least I don't
think so).I recently spent a week in the hospital in Honolulu with some
kind of leg infection, and was constantly given anti-biotic i.v. I think
they called it cellulitis, or something close.For a few days my right
leg was really swollen and sore, and hot to the touch as well as painful
to the touch.This was a couple of Sundays ago. By that evening I thought
I should mention it to someone. I called the advice nurse, who happened
to be in San Francisco, and after describing the symptoms I was told to
get to the emergency room within two hours.(I hate hospitals) It was so
busy there, I would have thought that a Sunday evening it would be quiet
there. It was not. After extensive tests and X-rays, they admitted me.
As far as hospitals go this one is well staffed, but as this was an Army
base and hospital, it just seemed strange to be treated by doctors and
nurses wearing B.D.U's.(that's army uniforms). I guess it was a good
thing going when I did, as the ramifications of not going was scary. To
make a long story short, I am bandaged in something called uuni boot on
both legs from foot to knee.(at least the bandages are flesh colored).It
sucks,it's hot and itchy, and I can't wait to get it off(weeks from
now). Unfortunately while in the hospital in Honolulu, my Mom passed
away in Boston, and I couldn't be there for the end.I had to let my two
brothers handle all the details.So as you might imagine I feel guilty as
well as helpless. Thank goodness I have a shrink to help deal with all
this stuff.
Sorry if I overwhelmed you Sue, as I didn't mean to. But you asked.
Other than all this, things ore ok.
How are you feeling? Oh, yeah, by the way I've always loved liver of all
kinds, beef, calves, and best of all chicken livers wrapped in
bacon,(yum). What's going on with you?
John     (hot and sweaty in Honolulu, in the low 90's.)
"burningdaylight" <burningdaylight@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:97832c9232342fee6ff98d0240c10539@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com...
Hi John,
That's because you are used to seeing calves liver sliced with onions
and bacon with a side of mashed:-)
BTW how are you feeling?
Sue

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Red Dwarf - 19 Oct 2005 15:01 GMT
Thanks Elmo, on the plus side, there are some good things happening also.I'm
just having difficulty thinking of any right now.Oh yeah, my stepson Vic
called me yesterday from California. He is a new dad now, and I get to see
his pictures, and those of his wife and baby on the net. That reminds me
that all is not sh.t. :-) That is a good thing. One life ends, and another
begins. There is some kind of balance there.I guess I did some things right,
but man oh man am I in some pain. The hip, the knee and both legs and
feet.It should not hurt just to be alive should it? Both of my doctors tell
me I'm a very strong person dealing with the level of pure physical pain I'm
in. But I don't feel so strong right now.Recently I saw another orthopedic
surgeon , who said he really would like to replace my hip as soon as
possible, but not with these open wounds on my legs and feet, as they are
portals to infection. If they ever heal, I'll see him again and try to hold
him to his promise.
How is it going with the new puppy? Stepped on any poop bare foot lately?
That happened to me frequently with my last puppy. A Maltese. The carpet was
dark colored, and in the morning my eyes were not too focused before
coffee.Yuck..... the poo poo dance. lol.
John

Sorry to hear of your woes, John.  You shouldn't feel guilty over not
being able to do anything about your Mom from the hospital.  Hope things
get better for you.
elmo
/////////
Hi Sue, sorry for the lag in answering your question. I haven't been on
much lately. October has not been good to me I'm afraid. Actually I
really haven't felt well lately at all. But I don't think that my
physical problems have any direct connection to HCV(at least I don't
think so).I recently spent a week in the hospital in Honolulu with some
kind of leg infection, and was constantly given anti-biotic i.v. I think
they called it cellulitis, or something close.For a few days my right
leg was really swollen and sore, and hot to the touch as well as painful
to the touch.This was a couple of Sundays ago. By that evening I thought
I should mention it to someone. I called the advice nurse, who happened
to be in San Francisco, and after describing the symptoms I was told to
get to the emergency room within two hours.(I hate hospitals) It was so
busy there, I would have thought that a Sunday evening it would be quiet
there. It was not. After extensive tests and X-rays, they admitted me.
As far as hospitals go this one is well staffed, but as this was an Army
base and hospital, it just seemed strange to be treated by doctors and
nurses wearing B.D.U's.(that's army uniforms). I guess it was a good
thing going when I did, as the ramifications of not going was scary. To
make a long story short, I am bandaged in something called uuni boot on
both legs from foot to knee.(at least the bandages are flesh colored).It
sucks,it's hot and itchy, and I can't wait to get it off(weeks from
now). Unfortunately while in the hospital in Honolulu, my Mom passed
away in Boston, and I couldn't be there for the end.I had to let my two
brothers handle all the details.So as you might imagine I feel guilty as
well as helpless. Thank goodness I have a shrink to help deal with all
this stuff.
Sorry if I overwhelmed you Sue, as I didn't mean to. But you asked.
Other than all this, things ore ok.
How are you feeling? Oh, yeah, by the way I've always loved liver of all
kinds, beef, calves, and best of all chicken livers wrapped in
bacon,(yum). What's going on with you?
John (hot and sweaty in Honolulu, in the low 90's.)
Hi John,
That's because you are used to seeing calves liver sliced with onions
and bacon with a side of mashed:-)
BTW how are you feeling?
Sue

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 21 Oct 2005 02:03 GMT
It's sort of like the cup being half empty or half full 'thing'.  You
can choose to look at life's dealt cards being alright or look at them
as being shitty.  Either way, it's a state of mind.  Nothing other than
time will take away the hurt of losing your mother, but seeing the
pictures of your son's (step or not) new baby has to bring you joy.      
I remember giving you sh.t because you were so down on yourself, that
you couldn't see any light at the end of the tunnel because of all your
medical problems.  Now that you seem to have beaten the dragon to death,
it's time to work on the rest.  Once your legs heal, get that hip
replaced.  I've got a feeling you'll enjoy living in paradise more once
you can get around better and feel more like getting some exercise.  You
ARE strong, John!  It's not every swinging dick that can get thru a year
of tx like you just did.  My hat's off to you!!
Buddy is doing great!  Naw, I haven't stepped in any poo poos (I"m not
talking about appetizers, LOL)  Buddy wouldn't think about sh.tting in
the house, never has pooped in here.  He did pee in the house once, but
I rubbed his cute little face in it and spanked him.  Hasn't peed in
here since.  :-)  Pleasing the 'old man' seems to be a priority.  Gotta
love the kid!!
Take care, bro.  
Elmo
///////////
Thanks Elmo, on the plus side, there are some good things happening
also.I'm just having difficulty thinking of any right now.Oh yeah, my
stepson Vic called me yesterday from California. He is a new dad now,
and I get to see his pictures, and those of his wife and baby on the
net. That reminds me that all is not sh.t. :-) That is a good thing. One
life ends, and another begins. There is some kind of balance there.I
guess I did some things right, but man oh man am I in some pain. The
hip, the knee and both legs and feet.It should not hurt just to be alive
should it? Both of my doctors tell me I'm a very strong person dealing
with the level of pure physical pain I'm in. But I don't feel so strong
right now.Recently I saw another orthopedic surgeon , who said he really
would like to replace my hip as soon as possible, but not with these
open wounds on my legs and feet, as they are portals to infection. If
they ever heal, I'll see him again and try to hold him to his promise.
How is it going with the new puppy? Stepped on any poop bare foot
lately? That happened to me frequently with my last puppy. A Maltese.
The carpet was dark colored, and in the morning my eyes were not too
focused before coffee.Yuck..... the poo poo dance. lol.
John
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24520-43563721-8@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... Sorry to hear of
your woes, John. You shouldn't feel guilty over not being able to do
anything about your Mom from the hospital. Hope things get better for
you.
elmo
/////////
Hi Sue, sorry for the lag in answering your question. I haven't been on
much lately. October has not been good to me I'm afraid. Actually I
really haven't felt well lately at all. But I don't think that my
physical problems have any direct connection to HCV(at least I don't
think so).I recently spent a week in the hospital in Honolulu with some
kind of leg infection, and was constantly given anti-biotic i.v. I think
they called it cellulitis, or something close.For a few days my right
leg was really swollen and sore, and hot to the touch as well as painful
to the touch.This was a couple of Sundays ago. By that evening I thought
I should mention it to someone. I called the advice nurse, who happened
to be in San Francisco, and after describing the symptoms I was told to
get to the emergency room within two hours.(I hate hospitals) It was so
busy there, I would have thought that a Sunday evening it would be quiet
there. It was not. After extensive tests and X-rays, they admitted me.
As far as hospitals go this one is well staffed, but as this was an Army
base and hospital, it just seemed strange to be treated by doctors and
nurses wearing B.D.U's.(that's army uniforms). I guess it was a good
thing going when I did, as the ramifications of not going was scary. To
make a long story short, I am bandaged in something called uuni boot on
both legs from foot to knee.(at least the bandages are flesh colored).It
sucks,it's hot and itchy, and I can't wait to get it off(weeks from
now). Unfortunately while in the hospital in Honolulu, my Mom passed
away in Boston, and I couldn't be there for the end.I had to let my two
brothers handle all the details.So as you might imagine I feel guilty as
well as helpless. Thank goodness I have a shrink to help deal with all
this stuff.
Sorry if I overwhelmed you Sue, as I didn't mean to. But you asked.
Other than all this, things ore ok.
How are you feeling? Oh, yeah, by the way I've always loved liver of all
kinds, beef, calves, and best of all chicken livers wrapped in
bacon,(yum). What's going on with you?
John (hot and sweaty in Honolulu, in the low 90's.) "burningdaylight"
<burningdaylight@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:97832c9232342fee6ff98d0240c10539@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com...
Hi John,
That's because you are used to seeing calves liver sliced with onions
and bacon with a side of mashed:-)
BTW how are you feeling?
Sue
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
kjoh - 21 Oct 2005 04:43 GMT
Hey John.  What Elmo said.  I've been thinking of you too :) Hug.
Kathy

Re: Liver size
by elmoemerson@webtv.net Oct 20, 2005 at 08:03 PM


It's sort of like the cup being half empty or half full 'thing'.  You
can choose to look at life's dealt cards being alright or look at them
as being shitty.  Either way, it's a state of mind.  Nothing other than
time will take away the hurt of losing your mother, but seeing the
pictures of your son's (step or not) new baby has to bring you joy.      
I remember giving you sh.t because you were so down on yourself, that
you couldn't see any light at the end of the tunnel because of all your
medical problems.  Now that you seem to have beaten the dragon to death,
it's time to work on the rest.  Once your legs heal, get that hip
replaced.  I've got a feeling you'll enjoy living in paradise more once
you can get around better and feel more like getting some exercise.  You
ARE strong, John!  It's not every swinging dick that can get thru a year
of tx like you just did.  My hat's off to you!!


sami X-No-Archive - 19 Oct 2005 16:10 GMT
> Hi Sue, sorry for the lag in answering your question. I haven't been on much
> lately. October has not been good to me I'm afraid. Actually I really
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> well as helpless. Thank goodness I have a shrink to help deal with all this
> stuff.

John,
I am sorry to hear about your mother.  I hope your legs heal quickly.
Red Dwarf - 20 Oct 2005 05:13 GMT
Thank You.
John

>> Hi Sue, sorry for the lag in answering your question. I haven't been on
>> much
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> John,
> I am sorry to hear about your mother.  I hope your legs heal quickly.
burningdaylight - 27 Oct 2005 00:14 GMT
Sorry for my lag also! You have been through some deep sh.t :-(  Sorry to
hear about your Mom.  If there is an after life, I hope that she is
looking over you.  
I'm okay, nothing bad enough to talk about.
Be well and strong,
Sue
Bri Kid - 19 Oct 2005 20:48 GMT
The liver is the second largest organ in the body ( after the skin ) It
performs over 500 functions. A good topic to research is "liver
functions" at Google or Ask Jeeves. The South Pacific huh? Ya lucky so
and so. Take care . Bri
Red Dwarf - 20 Oct 2005 05:33 GMT
Yeah. Thanks Bri. At least I don't have to shovel snow any more, I've done
more than my share.It is nice to be here in Hawaii. I was here in the late
60's and early 70's, and  knew I was destined to come back, but I also
thought I would be able to enjoy the beaches and water. It has it's good
points and bad.The roads and traffic system suck, and the political system
is archaic. The same families that exploited the island are mostly still
here and own much of the land. Being a white male I'm in the minority, and
have experienced some subtle racism. Nearly everything that can be consumed
is brought in by ship or plane and is much more expensive than the
mainland.I knew this was the case before coming here nearly four years ago.
Sometimes I long for a change of seasons, but one can plan things in advance
without the weather being much of a factor. The other thing is drugs,
ice(speed or methamphetamine) is every where, making for a lot of property
crimes. Especially car theft.
One can hardly believe that the liver performs over 500 functions. Can you
list them in alphabetical order for us please? Just joking.Thanks for
writing.
John in Honolulu

> The liver is the second largest organ in the body ( after the skin ) It
> performs over 500 functions. A good topic to research is "liver
> functions" at Google or Ask Jeeves. The South Pacific huh? Ya lucky so
> and so. Take care . Bri
 
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