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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / October 2005NEW TOPIC
Hi all. Here's something worth reading. From the journal Gut [sic]. Another reason not to drink of yo liver bad, but at least it don't seem to promote viral replication. This constant background noise sure is annoying. I know how you feel, Daylight. Thinking of you all Kathy http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list _uids=16162952&query_hl=3 Gut. 2005 Oct;54(10):1468-72. Alcohol has no effect on hepatitis C virus replication: a meta-analysis. Anand BS, Thornby J. Digestive Diseases Section (111D), VA Medical Center, 2002 Holcombe Blvd., Houston, TX 77030, USA. ana0@flash.net. BACKGROUND: Patients with chronic hepatitis C virus (HCV) infection who consume large quantities of alcohol have more severe liver disease compared with HCV patients without a history of alcohol consumption. The mechanism by which alcohol worsens HCV related liver disease is not properly understood. One possibility is that alcohol stimulates HCV replication, and the present meta-analysis was performed to examine this issue.... ...CONCLUSIONS: The present study has failed to show an association between alcohol use and HCV viral titres. These observations raise the possibility that the hepatic damage caused by alcohol and HCV may be purely additive, involving different mechanisms and pathways. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. "Patients with chronic hepatitis C virus (HCV) infection who consume large quantities of alcohol have more severe liver disease compared with HCV patients without a history of alcohol consumption. The mechanism by which alcohol worsens HCV related liver disease is not properly understood. One possibility is that alcohol stimulates HCV replication, and the present meta-analysis was performed to examine this issue...." I gotta million questions about this, but none of them have to do with alcohol or hep. I'll put it this way...if this is a typical VA meta-analysis, I'd hate to see the analyses! It sorta reminds me of the funded study that discovered that there can be serious quality of life issues for those with hepc. And even more amazingly, they can be more extreme for nonresponders than responders. Maybe the UN should fund a study to discover whether it's worse for livers to drink a twelve pack of beer or 5 shots of tequila three times a week outside of the 18th parallel. jk >I don't know whether to laugh or cry. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > jk Hep C aside, drinking has never proven to be a very positive thing to do unless it's in very limited quantities. Cody cody is right about alcohol being bad! but hes still an a.s! What if I was to tell you there was a group of people (a cult) down the block that gets together all the time and injects little bits of cyanide for kicks. What would you think of this cult? Would you say they are a bunch of sick bastards? Well, what if I told you some of them drink the cyanide instead of injecting it. Would that change the way you think of this cult? Well, what if I told you they drank another lethal poison instead of cyanide. Would that change the way you think of this cult? And when I tell you that the replacement for the cyanide was ethyl alcohol. And it's pushed and promoted throughout this culture and society. Would that change the way you feel about this cult? It shouldn't. This culture is sick. And anyone who purposely poisons his own body for kicks, is a fool. And these are the people in charge of everything in this society (or cult in this case). And the piper WILL be paid. But justice never happens fast enough for the innocents. > What if I was to tell you there was a group of people (a cult) down > the block that gets together all the time and injects little bits of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > WILL be paid. But justice never happens fast enough for the > innocents. Immigrant Song Ah, ah, We come from the land of the ice and snow, >from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. The hammer of the gods Will drive our ships to new lands, To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming! On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore. Ah, ah, We come from the land of the ice and snow, >from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. How soft your fields so green, Can whisper tales of gore, Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords. On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore. So now you’d better stop and rebuild all your ruins, For peace and trust can win the day Despite of all your losing. http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/viking_kittens/viking_kittens.htm http://www.seaheartship.com/eng/ Live in *fear* Monkey Boy Lawyer. Alan, son of Nemesis. Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation. "We love your adherence to democratic principles." -- Vice President George Bush to Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/ http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm Nemesis, winged balancer of life, dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice, You who restrain with adamantine bridles the frivolous insolences of mortals, and spurning the destructive violence of mankind drive out black envy! Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit is spun the grey fortune of man and unnoticed You walk in his tracks, you bend the neck that is proud. Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom as You control the scales in Your hand. Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice, Nemesis, winged balancer of life. Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing, Victory with slender wings, all-powerful infallible, and the assistant to Justice, You who in displeasure at the pride of men carry it down into Tartarus. > > What if I was to tell you there was a group of people (a cult) down > > the block that gets together all the time and injects little bits of [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel > lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation. Normally I don't waste my precious time arguing with fools. But when they attack the newspaper boy because they don't like the news, I'll destroy them. Even if they are some cartoon character "son of nemesis". I was offering the best defense a man can have against ignorance. THE TRUTH. And you called me a "monkey boy lawyer". You better think again what it means to be human. And why you quoted a drunken poets laments (led zeppelin), I'll never know. They (by their own admissions) drank way too much. Ripped off people at concerts by being too drunk to even play worth a sh.t. Then trashed hotels and such. Wasting moneys that could have been used constructively. Thousands of children a day die of starvation. And they waste moneys that way. But helping other people was never their goal, was it? And the faith comment makes me chuckle. I have faith in the truth and myself. I don't give a flying f.ck what anyone or even everyone else thinks. If I stand alone, so be it. I will not be punked by deceit. But I don't live a fictitious world where I'm some sort of cartoon character. And I don't attack people who are trying to inform people of the truth when the truth shines a light on an ugly f.cked-up side of myself. But I guess we are all different. And that what makes the world an interesting place. But when you stand up against the truth, and help spread darkness and ignorance, you stand up for evil. And I WILL DESTROY EVEN CARTOON CHARACTERS without a second thought. Have a nice day with your drinking buddies, Alan. Or do you own stock in these companies that prosper off other peoples misery? What's ironic is people drink the poison to escape the misery of their lives. But it doesn't help at all and makes for even more serious misery. ps. You should listen to Plant's later offerings. Like "Ship Of Fools". Not the stuff when he was young, foolish and naive. Everybody knows how to be those things. It's innately human. cyanide?????? man that's crazy!!!!  SignatureRuss Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > What if I was to tell you there was a group of people (a cult) down > the block that gets together all the time and injects little bits of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > WILL be paid. But justice never happens fast enough for the > innocents. Hey Russ, (OT) Computer hassles continue. Just to let you know that I have been thinking of you and yours. Bob ------- aka cactus jammiesathotmaildot calm (may not be able to answer right back) ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > cyanide?????? man that's crazy!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> WILL be paid. But justice never happens fast enough for the >> innocents. Not weird for weirdos, some other group would fire up snake venom for fun!!! and rave about a particular poisonous type, I guess he really liked certain snakes venoms more from others. Sounds like a freak from a swamp. JV |
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