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Russ Tanner - 09 Sep 2005 05:00 GMT
So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest of
the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue has
calmed down somewhat and I"m doing well.

Hard to keep up with all goings on with the news group, but I try. I finally
got my new laptop back from CompUSA, and low and behold, right here at the
RV campground some dummy has a unsecured wireless router I can log on and
surf the net, hahahaha.... way cool.

Well wishes to everyone, next stop is Juneau for a month of work. Cool, get
to see my nephew and ex-sis-inlaw. Lots of friends there as I lived there
for 14 years.

Checking in and all is 5 by 5!

Russ
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 11:52 GMT
> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest of
> the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue has
> calmed down somewhat and I"m doing well.

What makes you think anyone cares how cool you think you are?

> Hard to keep up with all goings on with the news group, but I try. I
> finally got my new laptop back from CompUSA, and low and behold, right
> here at the RV campground some dummy has a unsecured wireless router I can
> log on and surf the net, hahahaha.... way cool.

Cool to be a thief, eh?

> Well wishes to everyone, next stop is Juneau for a month of work. Cool,
> get to see my nephew and ex-sis-inlaw. Lots of friends there as I lived
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Russ

Don't bother.

Cody
ghibeluno - 09 Sep 2005 12:11 GMT
Red Beard the Pirate ha scritto:
> [...]
>
> Cody

"Red Beard the Pirate"? Now that is funny, Cody!

I didn't figure out it was a post of yours' until I read your signaure...
It's good you put it as I was "concerned" that somebody else was blaming
Russ as you're used to do!

Cheers,
jeeb.
doogie - 09 Sep 2005 13:20 GMT
>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
>> has calmed down somewhat and I"m doing well.
>
> What makes you think anyone cares how cool you think you are?

I care.........   And BTW I really enjoy Russ's posts.  Gets my mind down to
earth and off this hep-c for awhile.   doogie
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 13:41 GMT
>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I care.........   And BTW I really enjoy Russ's posts.  Gets my mind down
> to earth and off this hep-c for awhile.   doogie

So you approve of Russ stealing bandwidth? You get off on his bragging about
himself?

Cody
doogie - 09 Sep 2005 14:14 GMT
>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Cody

You're wasting bandwidth now Cody.  Discussion ended.    doogie
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 14:32 GMT
>>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the
>>>>> rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You're wasting bandwidth now Cody.  Discussion ended.    doogie

Translation: "doogie" can't respond intelligently to questions asked because
he knows he's wrong and can only dis me because he knows that's politically
correct on this piss poor excuse for a support group.

Cody
Incantatrix - 09 Sep 2005 16:37 GMT
"Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>      <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> :


>>>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the
>>>>>> rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>he knows he's wrong and can only dis me because he knows that's politically
>correct on this piss poor excuse for a support group.

if it is so piss poor, why do you keep reading it and post your own bullshit?
you give buddhists a bad name, cody.
caramba

--  

mhm 35x6
smeeter 37(?)
wsd40

we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
wilde
Cody - 09 Sep 2005 16:42 GMT
> "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>
> <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> :
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> smeeter 37(?)
> wsd40

I'm trying to improve the group is why. How come you have no comment
regarding Russ bragging about stealing someone's bandwidth and can only diss
me?

I guess, like "doogie", you want to be politically correct and not be
ostrasized by the fart group.

Cody
Alan - 09 Sep 2005 17:50 GMT
> > "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>
> > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> :
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> Cody

Hey Cody, if you really want something to hammer the point home then you might
try this:

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm

Alan

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html
Alan - 09 Sep 2005 18:11 GMT
> > > "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>
> > > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> :
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm

Oh and Cody, since my legal advisor gave me that link. and as the British
Government has seen fit to outlaw "Preachers of Hate", I have done my duty as a
citizen and faxed it to my M.P. and demanded that she uphold the law to it's
full extent, and I emailed the newspaper, and one way or another I am going to
get the law enforced regarding that religion.


Alan

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html

Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:19 GMT
Alan, Thanks for the link to the "Dark Bible". Most interesting.
Signature

Shawn

> In article <w3iUe.88838$dr.18293@news.ono.com>,
> nospam@nospam.comedunetcita (
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
>
> http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html 
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Sep 2005 21:04 GMT
I guess, like "doogie", you want to be politically correct and not be
ostrasized by the fart group.
Cody
//////////
The 'fart group' are a bunch of loving, caring folk....only interested
in helping others endure and thrive in a 'bad' situation.  I've never
smelled a fart that didn't bring a smile to my face, I don't care who
you are....that's funny.  Ostrasized by a farter?  That IS funny!
ahahahahahaha  Now you're funny too, Cody.  Pooooooootttt!!
Elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Alan - 09 Sep 2005 17:11 GMT
> "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>      
> > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
> wilde

Hello "goddess". Would you like an introduction to MY real Goddess?

http://thanasis.com/modern/nemesis.htm

Nemesis - The Goddess of Divine Retribution, and believe me She is not finished
yet.

This is The Hymn to Nemesis:

Nemesis, winged balancer of life,
dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice,
You who restrain with adamantine bridles
the frivolous insolences of mortals,
and spurning the destructive violence of mankind
drive out black envy!
Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit
is spun the grey fortune of man
and unnoticed You walk in his tracks,
you bend the neck that is proud.
Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life
and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom
as You control the scales in Your hand.
Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice,
Nemesis, winged balancer of life.
Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing,
Victory with slender wings, all-powerful
infallible, and the assistant to Justice,
You who in displeasure at the pride of men
carry it down into Tartarus.

In fact I made a special page full of goddesses:

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

Or if, of course, you are more interested in what is coming you could try:

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/enigma.html

or

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

Do enjoy this lovely weekend goddess. I have this strange feeling that some
people won't, especially those living in Alaska.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Quakes/quakes_big.html

Alan
Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:13 GMT
How would you know? You admit you have never been through treatment. You say
you have hep-C. But, have you ever been tested?

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(use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.)

>>>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the
>>>>>> rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Cody
Cody - 09 Sep 2005 19:37 GMT
Yes, three times. All three came up with 1b.

Cody
> How would you know? You admit you have never been through treatment. You
> say you have hep-C. But, have you ever been tested?
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>
>> Cody
Incantatrix - 09 Sep 2005 16:40 GMT
"Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>      <aqfUe.95932$US.13247@news.ono.com> :


>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>So you approve of Russ stealing bandwidth? You get off on his bragging about
>himself?

if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it
properly, they harvest what they saw.
you should know that as the 'computer expert' in the group.
pity you just have to nag everytime you post.

--  

mhm 35x6
smeeter 37(?)
wsd40

we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars
wilde
Alan - 09 Sep 2005 20:03 GMT
> if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it
> properly, they harvest what they saw.
> you should know that as the 'computer expert' in the group.
> pity you just have to nag everytime you post.

Talking of reaping what we sew, do you still go in the catholic church and
light candles for all your old friends? How many candles must that be now?
And some went so unexpectedly.

Now I would like to introduce you to some very special friends of mine who call
themselves 700 Women.org.

http://www.700women.org/

Now these nice American Ladies have been abused and mistreated, and they sent me
an email today thanking me for my efforts and asking me to ask all my friends to
sign their petition. Now I know you have lots of friends who are interested in
protecting women, and I do really think you should help them out.

It's strange how such bad things happened to all those old friends of yours
isn't it?

Nemesis works in a very mysterious way, you know?

Alan

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
Alan - 12 Sep 2005 08:32 GMT
> > if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it
> > properly, they harvest what they saw.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

You seem to be avoiding me goddess? Was it my pretty blue eyes?

By the way, guess what I did with those items you left at my place?

Rev Alan of The Church of Nemesis.

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

From "Demons of Cthulhu" (1959):

[....] Lightest of all are the slumbers of Narrathoth, who may be awakened by
the veriest novice in the art. Narrathoth lies drowsing beyond the Great Gate,
hideous in form, servant to the sleeping Old Ones who wait for their day once
more to dawn. But Narrathoth may be summoned from his blasphemous dreams and
forced to serve. One who achieves control over him has access to the wealth of
the world; but great care must be exercised, for fear of Narrathoth's wrath, for
even he shares the might of the Old Ones, and pity be upon him who summons him
and loses control.

Narrathoth is called by simple incantations. The blood of a male cat is needed,
and the undergarment of a woman and [....]
Gordo Mondragon - 10 Sep 2005 01:02 GMT
[...]

> if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it
> properly, they harvest what they saw.
> you should know that as the 'computer expert' in the group.
> pity you just have to nag everytime you post.

I know a number of people who purposely leave open networks so that
others can use them.  

Gordo
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 03:13 GMT
>[...]
>
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>
>Gordo

Including me: I have a wide-open, public 802.11g hotspot along with a totally
locked-down private 802.11a wap. If I check the mac address log on the "g"
wap, on average I get about a dozen log-ons each week these days - mostly
repeaters.

And they've all been stealing my bandwidth ;-)

Cheers

/greyhackles
Gordo Mondragon - 10 Sep 2005 04:47 GMT
> >[...]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> And they've all been stealing my bandwidth ;-)

It's not stealing if you were already sharing.

I know who uses my bandwidth.  I have no problems with it.

G
Cody - 10 Sep 2005 10:22 GMT
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon
>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> G

The "dummy" that didn't know he was sharing got his bandwidth stolen by Russ
but no one on this board thinks that isn't right. Must be the Christian
upbringing.

Cody
Paul - 10 Sep 2005 14:27 GMT
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:22:26 +0200, "  Cody"
<nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>, in message ID
<iBxUe.88917$dr.71863@news.ono.com>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>The "dummy" that didn't know he was sharing got his bandwidth stolen by Russ
>but no one on this board thinks that isn't right. Must be the Christian
>upbringing.

Nothing to do with religious philosophy but using bandwidth without
permission is certainly not right.  Especially as some people have a
capped service and have to pay more once a certain data transfer limit
has been exceeded.  Not right but hardly crime of the century.  I
haven't always paid for shareware.  That's wrong too but I've done it.
However, it's OK for me to do it because I'm an agnostic  :-)  <ducks>
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Thomas Wagner - 10 Sep 2005 18:52 GMT
>Nothing to do with religious philosophy but using bandwidth without
>permission is certainly not right.  Especially as some people have a
>capped service and have to pay more once a certain data transfer limit
>has been exceeded.

Metered service is very rare in the US, I haven't seen it offered
anywhere in a while. I doubt it's different in Alaska. So I'm wondering
what exactly was supposed to be "stolen" from whom. The costly bandwidth
from the poor cable company? As others have pointed out, some people DO
leave their access points open on purpose.

I know metered service is more common in Europe, but it would be the
exception here.

> Not right but hardly crime of the century.  I
>haven't always paid for shareware.  That's wrong too but I've done it.
>However, it's OK for me to do it because I'm an agnostic  :-)  <ducks>

Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What
he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they
want (including nothing) without interference from nutcases. But we've
known that for a very long time, and nobody's going to change him. So I
have to wonder why some folks still swallow his bait...

Thomas
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Alan - 10 Sep 2005 19:15 GMT
> Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What
> he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Thomas

So *pretty* *red* *shirt* boi, why is it that you call Cody a religious zealot,
and none of these X-tians? Would it be because you are just a loser who likes to
run with the crowd for approval?

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm

Let us examine the religion of hate:

Godly Mass Murder

"And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of
the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men:
and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a
great slaughter." (I Samuel 6:19)
Comment

Here we have just one more instance of God performing mass murder, a sadistic
killer far worse than Hitler, Attila the Hun or Pol Pot.

These verses should insult the intelligence of any person who thinks that God
possesses a loving nature.

One should not dismiss the Old Testament's repeated demand for the vilest
atrocities as something peculiar to the early Hebrews. Even today, our most
atrocious wars, terrorism and hate crimes occur around the world based on
ancient religious beliefs, many of them coming directly from verses in the Old
and New Testament.

Kill All Unbelievers

"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he
hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife
of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly,
saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy
fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)

"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye
pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou
shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death,
and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)

"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the
sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof,
with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
Comment

These severe laws commanded the members of the Hebrew religion to murder even
their own children if they did not worship Yahweh (God).

These Bible words can justify, to a fanatical fundamentalist believer, the
killing of friends or family simply because they may fail to change their
beliefs.

Why anyone today would accept these words, much less allow them to exist in a
sacred book goes against the nature of any tolerant and loving people.

Kill Man, Woman, Infant

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how
he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite
Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay
both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and a.s." (I Samuel
15:2-3)
Comment

No matter how one can justify possible crimes from adults, suckling infants have
no means of acting out crimes. And what evil against God could the animals have
possibly performed? Only an evil entity could kill innocent infants and animals,
no matter what their parents and owners may have done.

King David's Holocaust

"And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and
under harrows of iron, and under the axes of iron, and made them pass through
the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So
David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem." (II Samuel 12:31)
Comment

From the sacred scripts from the Bible we learn that the great King David
carried out atrocities that rivaled the cruel acts from the holocaust of World
War II. If we condemn the Nazi's for their atrocities, why should we not do the
same for David's bloodthirsty actions?

Moses' Mass Murder

"Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to
commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all
the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for
yourselves." (Numbers 31:16-18)
Comment

Moses commands the murder of approximately 100,000 young males and, roughly,
68,000 helpless women.

Consider women and children of your own family: No matter how sick they may lay,
or how they may go against a religion, how would you feel if a man named Moses,
claiming to speak for God, sent men into your house and hacked to pieces the
women and male children? Also, how would you react if they spotted a female
child, dragged her off with them to do as they please with her? Note that these
innocent virgins served for their own sexual pleasures.

Midian, the land of the Midianites, did not reside in an area regarded as a
natural enemy of Israel for centuries, and in fact lay hundreds of miles away
from the Israelite encampment. Moses, himself, had lived in Midian as fugitive
after committing his first murder. In short, Midian presented no threat to God's
"Chosen People."

Nail His Head!

"Then Jael Heber's wife took a nail of the tent, and took an hammer in her hand,
and went softly unto him, and smote the nail into his temples, and fastened it
into the ground: for he was fast asleep and weary. So he died." (Judges 4:21)
Comment

In verse 16 the Israelites surprise Sisera's army and that "there was not a man
left," except Sisera who deserts his army and flees, a deed punishable by court
martial today. Sisera then goes to the tent of Jael, the wife of Heber. Jael
takes him in, hides him under a blanket, gives him milk to quench his thirst,
and promises to stand guard at the door while he sleeps. Then Jael kills Sisera!

We see no telling of the slightest shame, but rather, Jael proudly flaunts her
kill. The author of this piece of Scripture makes it clear that the passage
represents a deed, not only as grand and heroic but also consistent with the
will of God (see Judges 4:23).

Raping And Killing

"Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined
unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."
(Isaiah 13:15-16)
Comment

These verses foretold the deaths of the people of Babylon. Fortunately not
everyone in Babylon (now modern Iraq) fell by the sword or had their children
dashed to pieces or their wives raped (just another instance of errors in the
Bible). How some people who believe in an infallible Bible can accept these
verses as God inspired, or morally uplifting can only give evidence to the
blinding nature of belief. For if we believe these words as God inspired, then
the killing of children and the raping of wives must also come as an inspiration
from the Supreme Being.

Shed The Blood

"And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast
will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother
will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his
blood be shed: for in the image of God made the man." (Genesis 9:5-6)
Comment

Some anti-abortionists have used these words to justify the killing of
abortionists. As such, these words helped inspire Michael Griffin to kill Doctor
David Gunn on March 10, 1993.

Consider that the Bible never directly addresses abortion, much the less the
condemnation of it. On the contrary, God himself has condoned, not only
miscarriages, but has personally called for the killing of suckling infants and
the bashing of children against the rocks.

(See Numbers 5:26-27, I Samuel 15:2-3, and Psalm 137:9)

Slaughter Of Innocents

"And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the
women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain." (Deuteronomy
2:34)

"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly
destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and
the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves." (Deuteronomy 3:6-7)
Comment

Such words helped give justification to mediaeval Crusaders who slaughtered men,
women and children along their way to Jerusalem and stole the spoils of the
cities. Even today, many Christian military men use Scripture to justify their
actions. If any soldier harbors doubt about killing his fellow humans, he need
only consult a military chaplain or read the Bible to calm their worries. Even
George Bush (the First), with Billy Graham beside him, proclaimed the Gulf War
as "moral." George Bush (the Second) continued in his father's steps by killing
thousands of Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi war. Such moral wars result in
thousands of "utterly destroyed" innocent men, women and children.;

(For a few more examples [but not all] see also Deuteronomy 3:3, 7:2, 20:16-17 ,
25:19; Joshua 6:21, 8:26, 10-28-40; Numbers 31:17-18; I Samuel 15:3; Isaiah
13:16; and Hosea 13:16)

Slay Old And Young

"And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city,
and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and
young, both maids, and little children, and woman: but come not near any man
upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient
men which were before the house." (Ezekiel 9:5-6)
Comment

These words, commanded by God, orders the slaying of not only women and the old,
but of little children. These accounts of cold-blooded massacres occurred simply
because people refused to accept Yahweh. These phrases should give warning to
anyone who knows a person who believes every word in the Bible.

For what sense of moral reasoning should we allow ourselves to admire such
Biblical verses?

The Survivors

"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed
the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which
were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all
the tribes of the children of Israel." (Revelation 7:3-4)

"And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given
power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that
they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither
any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads."
(Revelation 9:3-4)
Comment

Here we have the great future destruction where millions of people will die.
Only 144,000 Jews with a protective mark on their heads will survive.

Now do get back in your cage *pretty* *red* *shirt* boi, where you belong.

Alan

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 19:20 GMT
[snipped]

>Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What
>he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Thomas

I blame my combo drugs ;-)

Well, that, and the reflexive need to stomp on a cockroach...

ahahahahahahahah!  (<= ©Elmo ;-)

/greyhackles
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 12 Sep 2005 13:12 GMT

Re: Seward Alaska  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Sep 10, 2005, 2:20pm (CDT+1)
From: greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo.com (greyhackles)
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:52:31 -0400, Thomas Wagner <tomw@capecod.com>
wrote: [snipped]
Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What
he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they
want (including nothing) without interference from nutcases. But we've
known that for a very long time, and nobody's going to change him. So I
have to wonder why some folks still swallow his bait...
Thomas
I blame my combo drugs ;-)
Well, that, and the reflexive need to stomp on a cockroach...
ahahahahahahahah! (<= ©Elmo ;-)
/greyhackles  
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Alan - 10 Sep 2005 19:56 GMT
> Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot.
>
> Thomas

And what does the bible say about *women*?

The Biblical view of women

The God of the Bible decrees that woman must submit to the dominance of man.

"The social and legal position of an Israelite wife was inferior to the position
a wife occupied in the great countries round about... all the texts show that
Israelites wanted mainly sons to perpetuate the family line and fortune, and to
preserve the ancestral inheritance... A husband could divorce his wife; women on
the other hand could not ask for divorce... the wife called her husband Ba'al or
master; she also called him adon or lord; she addressed him, in fact, as a slave
addressed his master or subject, his king. The Decalogue includes a man's wife
among his possessions... all her life she remains a minor. The wife does not
inherit from her husband, nor daughters from their father, except when there is
no male heir. A vow made by a girl or married woman needs, to be valid, the
consent of the father or husband and if this consent is withheld, the vow is
null and void. A man had a right to sell his daughter. Women were excluded from
the succession."

-Roland de Vaux, archaeologist and priest

Blue words represent Bible quotes

Burn The Daughter!

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore,
she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
Comment

A priest's daughter, if found to have lost her virginity without marriage, can
receive the death penalty, but in the form of incineration.

How many fundamentalist priests who so easily condemn others would carry out the
burning of their daughters if they found them "whoring"?

(See also Genesis 38:24)

Cut Off Her Hand!

"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near
for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth
forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand,
thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)
Comment

A wife would naturally wish to come to the aid of her husband in any way she
could if he desperately struggled with an opponent, but the Hebrew law
specifically forbade a wife to help her husband in distress if that support
consisted of her grabbing the enemy's genitals in an effort to stifle his
onslaught. The penalty? Amputation of the hand that fondled the genitals!

Only in an overly obsessive male dominated culture could men create such
atrocious laws. As such, the penis ranked sacrosanct in the minds of men (as it
still stands today). If a male lost his penis for any reason, he would lose the
right to enter a congregation of God. (See Deuteronomy 23:1)

Female Births Get Penalty

"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and
born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of
the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her
separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and
six days." (Leviticus 12:5)
Comment

A woman who gives birth to a child must undergo a purification ritual lest her
"uncleanness" contaminate others. This not only entails her isolation, but also
payments to priests for the ritual acts. Thus the male dominators had even made
birth dirty.

Notice here that if a woman bears a female child, her isolation must last twice
as long as that if she gives birth to a male child!

(See also Psalms 51:3-5)

   "The Bible and the church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way
of woman's emancipation."

   --Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Female Inferiority

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head
of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man
created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)
Comment

The Bible's decree of male supremacy has kept woman inferior to men for
centuries. For the religious, it comes as a sad fact that a human must have a
penis to receive any respect or power within the Church.

All woman should realize that such phrases in the Bible has justified for many
Christian men, not only their supremacy but a reason to sexually abuse women.

(See also I Cor. 14:34-36, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24,
Col. 3:18-19)

Jesus Will Kill Children

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into
great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her
children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which
searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according
to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)
Comment

If anyone thinks Jesus represents only a peaceful loving soul, then think again.
For an act of adultery, Jesus would kill innocent children for the adultery of
others; hardly fair justice, love, or the concern for human beings.

Some apologists claim that "children" refers to the followers of a cult of
Jezebel and not to children birthed from Jezebel. However, if this proved the
case, the situation would appear even more horrific, for a cult of believers
could number in the dozens, hundreds, thousands, or more. The deaths of these
multitude of cult believers (which would include children within its membership)
would only make the moralistic problem far more atrocious.

   "It's interesting to speculate how it developed that in two of the most
anti-feminist institutions, the church and the law court, the men are wearing
the dresses."

   --Flo Kennedy

Kill The Witches!

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely
be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he
shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)
Comment

These verses attest to the power of belief as they led to the slaughter of
thousands of defenseless people throughout Europe and the rest of the world.

Understand that these verses not only authorize the executions but they
explicitly command them.

Verse 18 justified the burning of women in Europe judged as witches. In early
America, the Salem witch trials resulted in the deaths of women and men.

Verse 19 refers to bestiality, a sin considered worthy of death. Christians used
verse 20 to justify religious wars, Crusades and the slaughter of unbelievers
throughout Europe. And the condemnation of heretics still goes on.

Rape My Daughter

"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out
now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto
this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the
man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and
abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring,
they let her go." (Judges 19:24-25)
Comment

Judges 19 describe a father who offers his virgin daughter to a drunken mob.
When the father says "unto this man do not so vile a thing," he makes clear that
sexual abuse should never befall a man (meaning him), yet a woman, even his own
flesh and blood, or a concubine belonging to a perfect stranger, can receive
punishment from men to do what they wish. This attitude against women still
persists to this day and we have the Bible, in large part, to thank for this
attitude against women.

Verse 25 describes the hours long gang rape of the poor concubine. The Bible
gives not one hint of passion or concern for the raped girl. Considering that
many people believe that every word in the Bible comes from God, it should not
surprise anyone why people still use these verses to justify such atrocities.

Silence The Woman!

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to
teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was
first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived
was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)
Comment

Another case where the Bible makes it quite clear that women live for man and
must submit to them.

   "Man enjoys the great advantage of having a god endorse the code he writes;
and since man exercises a sovereign authority over women it is especially
fortunate that this authority has been vested in him by the Supreme Being. For
the Jews, Mohammedans and Christians among others, man is master by divine
right; the fear of God will therefore repress any impulse towards revolt in the
downtrodden female."

   --Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex 1949

(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Cor. 14:34-36, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24,
Col. 3:18-19.)

Stone The Woman!

"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her
in the city, and lie with her;" (Deuteronomy 22:22)

"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall
stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being
in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou
shalt put away evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 22:24)
Comment

(Read also Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

The discovery of a bride lying with another man can yield disastrous results.

If the wife's parents can produce tokens of the damsel's virginity and spread
the cloth before the elders of the city, the husband has to pay the bride's
father one hundred silver shekels and he may not send his wife back to her
parents as long as she lives. But if the bride's virginity does not satisfy the
requirements, the husband can get rid of her by letting the men of the city
stone her to death.

From a practical level, these designed laws regulating women's virginity
protected economic transactions between men rather than for the sake of
morality. (See Virgin's Worth below)

"Virgin" Mistranslation

"Therefore the LORD himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall
conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14)
Comment

Perhaps the most famous mistranslation of the Bible, the word virgin here comes
from a mistranslated Greek word for virgin.

The original Hebrew version uses the word "almah" which means "young woman"
which may or may not refer to a virgin. Of course the context of the original
Hebrew Isaiah does not refer to a virgin at all, as scholars the world over
agree, but only refers to a young woman.

Later, the author of Matthew 1:22-23, quoted from the mistranslated Isaiah
version, and thus the error turned into a world-wide belief.

Today a few of the modern bibles such as the Revised Standard Version, have
corrected this mistranslation and have replaced the word virgin with "young
woman." (Isaiah 7:14, RSV)

Apparently either God makes errors or the Bible does not come from god, but
rather from fallible men.

Virgin's Worth

"If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold
on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her
shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silvers, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days."
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
Comment

The belief some get about the Biblical law leads them to think that it
represented a great advancement in morality. However, if we look at this law in
the social and economic context, it becomes evident that it did not come from
any moral ground, but rather to protect men's property rights of their wives and
daughters.

This law says that since an unmarried girl, a non-virgin, no longer serves as an
economically valuable asset, her father must receive compensation. As for the
legal requirement of the man that caused the economic problem, his marriage in
that society gave him practically unlimited power over their wives. Such forced
marriage can hardly serve as a concern for the poor girl's welfare.

Wives, Submit Yourselves!

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the
husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and
he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ,
so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Comment

These words of Paul describe another instance for the calling of the submission
of women to their husbands. Note that the all inclusive "everything" could allow
husbands to submit their wives to anything, including rape, beatings, slavery,
etc.

(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Cor. 14:34-36, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Col.
3:18-19.)

Women Shall Not Speak

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them
to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is
a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
Comment

If one ever wishes to find an explanation of woman's inferiority to men, one
only has to look in the Bible. Paul makes clear and delineates the importance of
woman recognizing her place, "ad nauseam."

(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24,
Col. 3:18-19.)

   "The bible teaches that women brought sin and death into the world, that she
precipitated the fall of the race, that she was arraigned before the judgment
seat of Heaven, tried, condemned and sentenced. Marriage for her was to be a
condition of bondage, maternity a period suffering and anguish, and in silence
and subjection, she was to play the role of a dependent on man's bounty for all
her material wants, and for all the information she might desire... Here is the
Bible position of woman briefly summed up."

   --Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Women's Sorrow

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy
husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16)
Comment

Not only does the Woman get blamed for the Fall, but God decides to multiply her
sorrow, plus, she must submit to her husband like a slave.

Religionists have used this verse as justification and "reason" for the pain and
punishment (sin) of childbirth and the sin of mankind. And to this day many
Christians, Jews and Islamics place women lower then men in the ranking of Godly
order. If ever there existed a more cruel justification against women, it could
not have done as much damage as from belief in Genesis 3:16. Because of the
belief in the Fall, countless Christians have branded the entire human race as
depraved.

Before the advent of male dominated religions, cultures around the world
respected women and worshipped goddesses. The Old Testament records the brutal
slaughter of surrounding cultures and slowly throughout the centuries, the
goddess religions faded away in place of the belief-system of a jealous,
scatological, male war god.

   "Christianity teaches that the human race is depraved, fallen, and sinful."
   --D. James Kennedy (Why I Believe, World Publishing, 1980)

Rip Up Pregnant Women

"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they
shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16)
Comment

Throughout the Bible, God smites those who do not believe in him or those who do
not follow his commands. Here we have the grotesque description of infants
dashed to pieces and pregnant women ripped up. Whatever rebellious nature an
infant's father or mother may have had, it bears no justice to an innocent child
or to an unborn fetus who could not possibly have rebelled against God, much
less understood him.

Anyone who claims to love such a God, must accept infanticide as one of God's
ugly revenges.

(See also Psalms 137:9)

The Wicked Woman

"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the
wickedness of a woman." (Eccles. 25:13)

"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles.
25:22)

"If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give
her a bill of divorce, and let her go." (Eccles. 25: 26)

"The whoredom of a woman may be known in her haughty looks and eyelids. If thy
daughter be shameless, keep her in straitly, lest she abuse herself through
overmuch liberty." (Eccles. 26:9-10)

"A silent and loving woman is a gift of the Lord: and there is nothing so much
worth as a mind well instructed. A shamefaced and faithful woman is a double
grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued." (Eccles. 26:14-15)

"A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will
fear the Lord." (Eccles.26:25)

"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the
churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth
shame and reproach." (Eccles. 42:13-14)
Comment

Ecclesiasticus of the Apocrypha does not appear in most Bibles. However, in
Catholic Bibles, the inferiority of woman still appears in the verses of
Ecclesiasticus. These verses give only a sampling from this book that lowers the
status of women.

Women oppressed and I know all about oppressed American women. These are some
very special friends of mine:

http://www.700women.org/

Every day in the United States, 700 America Women are assaulted or raped by
their partners. Every day an average of four women are murdered by their
husbands or boyfriends. We can stop these tragedies but we urgently need your
help.
Join hundreds of thousands of women and men across the country in making sure
that the Violence Against Women Act is reauthorized by Congress before it
expires in September. Please help! Millions "that's right, MILLIONS" of women,
children and families will be better off as a result!

The 700 Women e-mailed me and said:

In the midst of this difficult time for our country, we have good news to report
in our efforts to protect women from violence, and we wanted to share it with
you right away.

The Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) was just voted out of the Senate Judiciary
Committee where it now needs to move to the full Senate floor for a vote. While
this indicates great momentum to protect women from violence, we must continue
to keep the pressure on Congress to pass VAWA before the end of September.

Now it's crunch time! It is critical that we show the broadest possible support
before the full Senate vote! You can help:

Simply ask seven friends -- or more -- to sign the petition to stop violence
against women. It will only take a minute or two. Click here.

Your request to your friends and family is more powerful than any other kind of
request. People listen to their friends much more closely than they would an
advertisement or request by even a celebrity. That's why your voice, your action
today is so important. Just remember, if you tell seven friends only one or two
will sign the petition. So tell as many people as possible!

And I am telling you now Wagner, in the name of Nemesis, that you really should
sign their petition, and before you say any more, think very carefully about
what has befallen each and every X-tian who lied about me, and I warned Elmo
that Nemesis was coming several weeks ago, and I bet you all laughed so loudly.

How is the woman who was so fond of praying for me to *her* god, by the way?

Alan.

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
MCody - 10 Sep 2005 20:38 GMT
>>Nothing to do with religious philosophy but using bandwidth without
>>permission is certainly not right.  Especially as some people have a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I know metered service is more common in Europe, but it would be the
> exception here.

The fact that Russ was bragging about it was what I was pointing out, how he
took advantage of some "dummy".

>> Not right but hardly crime of the century.  I
>>haven't always paid for shareware.  That's wrong too but I've done it.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thomas

Pointing out the fallacies of believing in a god is not being a religious
zealot. I don't notice you taking any of the many Christian zealots to task
but, like Alan said, you want to be a member in good standing of the god
fearing in group.

Cody


Russ - 16 Sep 2005 05:24 GMT
I have metered service, but it's a pretty big amount of gigabytes. I never
come close to using it up. It's 10 gigs/month and then you pay more, but I
never get over 2 gigs in a month and that's with my daughter downloading and
carrying on ( BUT NOT ON MY COMPUTER!!!!). I have a second computer for the
kids to use and get it all goofed up.

BTW, I cruised around Seward with my laptop on, there were hot spots all
over the place. But then Alaskans are pretty friendly people and don't mind
sharing.

Signature

Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:22:26 +0200, "  Cody"
> <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>, in message ID
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> haven't always paid for shareware.  That's wrong too but I've done it.
> However, it's OK for me to do it because I'm an agnostic  :-)  <ducks>
Alan - 16 Sep 2005 17:27 GMT
> I have metered service, but it's a pretty big amount of gigabytes. I never
> come close to using it up. It's 10 gigs/month and then you pay more, but I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> over the place. But then Alaskans are pretty friendly people and don't mind
> sharing.

*snigger*

Yes, there are quite a few *hot-spots* around America, but they are nowhere near
you. What you really have to worry about is the Juan de Fuca trench:

http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/JuanDeFucaRidge/description_juan_de_fuca.htm
l

And do you know what I find most enjoyable?

The fact that you have me kill-filed and won't be reading a single thing I say.

But Spidey does.

Alan, son of Nemesis.

Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel
lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation.

"We love your adherence to democratic principles."

-- Vice President George Bush to Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm

Nemesis, winged balancer of life,
dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice,
You who restrain with adamantine bridles
the frivolous insolences of mortals,
and spurning the destructive violence of mankind
drive out black envy!

Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit
is spun the grey fortune of man
and unnoticed You walk in his tracks,
you bend the neck that is proud.
Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life
and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom
as You control the scales in Your hand.

Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice,
Nemesis, winged balancer of life.
Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing,
Victory with slender wings, all-powerful
infallible, and the assistant to Justice,
You who in displeasure at the pride of men
carry it down into Tartarus.
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 16:45 GMT
>>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon
>>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com>
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>
>Cody

"Cody, you ignorant slut."

How exactly do you know that - just as I do - the wifi cell that Russ used
*wasn't being offered?

Viral load devouring your liver this week, eh? It shows...

/greyhackles ("messenger"? LMAO. It's spelled "utter fucktard", Cody...)
doogie - 10 Sep 2005 17:33 GMT
>>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon
>>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Cody
Must be the Christian
> upbringing.   ......   You are right Cody and The translation of that is
> *forgiveness*.   doogie
MCody - 10 Sep 2005 18:20 GMT
>>>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon
>>>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>> upbringing.   ......   You are right Cody and The translation of that is
>> *forgiveness*.   doogie

Tell that to all the people in prison who are there due to stealing in order
to eat.

Alias
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 16:42 GMT
>> Including me: I have a wide-open, public 802.11g hotspot along with a totally
>> locked-down private 802.11a wap. If I check the mac address log on the "g"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>I know who uses my bandwidth.  I have no problems with it.

Did you miss the emoticon? Did my sarcasm escape notice?

/greyhackles (ok, I'll bring the dialog down a notch next time ;-)
Red Dwarf - 10 Sep 2005 11:35 GMT
Same here Doogie, that's the way I feel also. I enjoy reading Russ's posts.
Frequently I "read the mail", without actively posting myself, and sort of
imagine what it must be like way up there in Alaska, and travel from job to
job. Something I'm unable to do in my physical condition.I do keep putting
this fool in my kill file, but just like a bad penny, he just keeps turning
up, and up, and up.Life must really suck for him, and if my heart breaks for
him, I'll swallow a band-aid.
John

>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I care.........   And BTW I really enjoy Russ's posts.  Gets my mind down
> to earth and off this hep-c for awhile.   doogie
doogie - 10 Sep 2005 17:42 GMT
> Same here Doogie, that's the way I feel also. I enjoy reading Russ's
> posts. Frequently I "read the mail", without actively posting myself, and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> heart breaks for him, I'll swallow a band-aid.
> John

Yeah I feel sorry for Cody sometimes too.  But the 'campo el turdo' stuff is
soooo funny.  And Russ's life reminds me of someone that Robert W. Service
might  have written about.  This group is enjoyable.   doogie
Russ Tanner - 09 Sep 2005 14:47 GMT
stealing bandwith???? yea I can see it now, some guys going to be destitute
and poor because I "borrowed" his wi-fi for a few minutes a day... oh the
horror, the horror........ course I could pay the $16 an hour down at the
harbour for the same thing, nannnnn don't think so.

yea the bandwith you waste with your sh.t spewing mouth is trivial to the
few minutes a day on line I use here.

besides, who cares what "you" think cody.....
nobody here....

>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Cody
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 15:21 GMT
> stealing bandwith???? yea I can see it now, some guys going to be
> destitute and poor because I "borrowed" his wi-fi for a few minutes a
> day... oh the horror, the horror........ course I could pay the $16 an
> hour down at the harbour for the same thing, nannnnn don't think so.

So you admit being a thief.

> yea the bandwith you waste with your sh.t spewing mouth is trivial to the
> few minutes a day on line I use here.

Lovely.

> besides, who cares what "you" think cody.....
> nobody here....

You speak for everyone? And, what, exactly, makes you think I care what
people think?

"As the saying goes, "Be careful of where you point your finger, because you
have three pointed right back at you!" and yes ali-a.s, I am and can be the
biggest prick and a.shole you would ever meet if we were face to face!!! The
guy in the black robe didn't send me to anger management for a year because
I was a nice guy!!!!

Russ, reformed prick!! hahahahah

Now go back to your sand box like a good boy and leave us adults alone to
talk."
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Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

yea, he sat on a log and has a stick up his ali-a.s....

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Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

haha, getting ali-a.s mad is like hitting the side of a barn with a 12 gauge
shotgun!! LOL..... he must have a little prick and is insecure.... a
girlyman for sure..

--
Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

cody, your so pathetic....  go get yourself a life somewhere if you know
what that is....

--
Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

I tried that but he changes his email addy as often as he changes his
diapers..... bring it on tater tot, I'll never tire of telling you to f.ck
OFF!!!!!!!!

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Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

GO f.ck YOURSELF WITH A LOG a.shole.......... YES THIS IS A f.cking CHAT
ROOM, WHAT THE f.ck IS IT TO YOU, YOU SOME KIND OF INTERNET COP HERE OR
WHAT?????

GO AWAY FUCKSTICK....

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Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
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>>
>> Cody
Russ - 16 Sep 2005 05:26 GMT
how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago
and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!!

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Russ

Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com

> > stealing bandwith???? yea I can see it now, some guys going to be
> > destitute and poor because I "borrowed" his wi-fi for a few minutes a
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> >>
> >> Cody
Cody - 16 Sep 2005 11:22 GMT
> how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago
> and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!!

And you're not ashamed of such behaviour and can only diss me for posting
them?

I didn't go back and look. I copied them as you posted them. They are,
however, archived by Google for your grandchildren to read.

Cody

> Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com
>
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>> >>
>> >> Cody
Alan - 16 Sep 2005 17:34 GMT
> > how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago
> > and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!!
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>
> Cody

Sadly I doubt that Russ will be having any grandchildren. But we can watch it
all go down on here:

http://www.anchorageweathercam.com/

Alan, son of Nemesis.

Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel
lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation.

"We love your adherence to democratic principles."

-- Vice President George Bush to Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm

Nemesis, winged balancer of life,
dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice,
You who restrain with adamantine bridles
the frivolous insolences of mortals,
and spurning the destructive violence of mankind
drive out black envy!

Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit
is spun the grey fortune of man
and unnoticed You walk in his tracks,
you bend the neck that is proud.
Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life
and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom
as You control the scales in Your hand.

Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice,
Nemesis, winged balancer of life.
Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing,
Victory with slender wings, all-powerful
infallible, and the assistant to Justice,
You who in displeasure at the pride of men
carry it down into Tartarus.
Alan - 16 Sep 2005 17:32 GMT
> how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago
> and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!!

Hey look, a whole load of web-cams, just so we can all watch as Nemesis pops in
for Her appointment with you:

http://www.anchorageweathercam.com/

Alan, son of Nemesis.

Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel
lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation.

"We love your adherence to democratic principles."

-- Vice President George Bush to Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm

Nemesis, winged balancer of life,
dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice,
You who restrain with adamantine bridles
the frivolous insolences of mortals,
and spurning the destructive violence of mankind
drive out black envy!

Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit
is spun the grey fortune of man
and unnoticed You walk in his tracks,
you bend the neck that is proud.
Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life
and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom
as You control the scales in Your hand.

Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice,
Nemesis, winged balancer of life.
Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing,
Victory with slender wings, all-powerful
infallible, and the assistant to Justice,
You who in displeasure at the pride of men
carry it down into Tartarus.
Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:10 GMT
Cody, I rarely say anything to you about your rudeness on this NG. But, that
was really uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself. I really thought
you were a better person than that.
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Shawn

>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest
>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue
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>
> Cody
Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:24 GMT
Hey Russ!! Nice to hear from you as always. Glad to hear you're havin' a
good time!! Hugs from us!
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Shawn

> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest of
> the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue has
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>
> Russ
Russ Tanner - 10 Sep 2005 01:27 GMT
Same back at ya Shawn, and give Randi a big hug for me. I'm glad to see you
on the 'puter and posting.

Well wishes to you both!

Russ

> Hey Russ!! Nice to hear from you as always. Glad to hear you're havin' a
> good time!! Hugs from us!
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>>
>> Russ
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Sep 2005 21:15 GMT
Right on, Russ!!!
Elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
burningdaylight - 10 Sep 2005 02:28 GMT
Hi Russ,
Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts,
they make me feel warm on a cool night. I have never been to Alaska, and I
hear your thoughts of how beautiful it is, but I guess it can be pretty
rough up there in the winter. I can't imagine how you handle the cold and
still love it. I hate the winters in Pennsylvania and think of Florida.
Hope all is well and keep stealing the bandwidth just to piss off Cody aka
red beard the 'pirate' hahahahaha!
Sue
Alan - 10 Sep 2005 03:23 GMT
> Hi Russ,
> Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts,
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> red beard the 'pirate' hahahahaha!
> Sue

Yes, Alaska is such a pretty place. Here is a picture for you.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/AK10/55.65.-160.-140_eqs.html

and this is fun reading too:

http://www.avo.alaska.edu/release.php

This too:

http://www.ess.washington.edu/tsunami/index.html

and here is a pretty web-cam of washington state:

http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/mshvolcanocam.jpg

But hey, don't you go worrying about no science. Condi will come and tell you
that "God is coming" after the day it happens, but I am telling you that it
ain't God that is coming. It's Nemesis, the Goddess of Divine Retribution.

Alan

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

You ride around your white castle,
On your little white horse
You lie to your people,
and blame it on your war of course

You call yourself a Christian,
I call you a hypocrite
You call yourself a patriot,
well I think you're full of sh.t

Oh, sweet Neo Con,
What path have you led them on?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
Is it time for the atom bomb?

You parade around in costume,
Expecting to be believed
But as the body bags stack up,
We believe we've been deceived

The horror you've unleased,
Will backfire with more grief
When will you ever learn,
Sweet Neo Con, as the world burns?

Oh, sweet Neo Con,
What path have you led them on?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
Is it time for the atom bomb?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
What path have you led them on?
Oh, sweet Neo Con,
Is it time to drop the bomb?

My Sweet Neocon - Rolling Stones, Summer of 2005
Alan - 10 Sep 2005 09:02 GMT
> > Hi Russ,
> > Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts,
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>
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/AK10/55.65.-160.-140_eqs.html

and another:

http://www.avo.alaska.edu/activity.php

> and this is fun reading too:
>
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>
> http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/mshvolcanocam.jpg

and two pretty Alaskan Web-cams

http://www.avo.alaska.edu/webcam/veni.php

http://www.avo.alaska.edu/webcam/spurr.php

> But hey, don't you go worrying about no science. Condi will come and tell you
> that "God is coming" after the day it happens, but I am telling you that it
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>
> My Sweet Neocon - Rolling Stones, Summer of 2005

Now isn't that good of Nemesis sending me in here to give you such pretty
Alaskan pictures?

And look, here is one of those "Keyword searches" that *pretty* *red* *shirt*
boi is so good at using himself.

http://www.avo.alaska.edu/downloads/searchimg.php

Hey, I hope you all have a pleasant weekend.

Alan

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
Russ Tanner - 11 Sep 2005 02:30 GMT
Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big
place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to coast
with the Aleutian Islands thrown in. If split into three equal pieces Texas
would be the 4th largest state. No offense to you Texans.

It cracks me up, I write a little hello to everyone and such a thread,
thanks to the "camp turd", hehe.....

Yea I have the virus,  but it doesn't stop me from living and enjoying life.
It took me a while to come to terms with the failure of the treatment but
I'm ok today and that is all that counts. I'll battle the dragon another
day.

Yesterday it rained buckets, but woke up this morning to a nice blue
pre-dawn morning. The daylight is going fast now, loosing over 5 minutes a
day. I think its what I love about this place, the extremes of seasons. Plus
I can always go somewhere warm for a while if I want to. Use up those Alaska
Airline miles. I have a credit card, I get a mile for every dollar I spend.
I pay for everything with it and pay it off every month. What a deal for $75
a year. I have over 70,000 miles, at 20, 000 miles a ticket I can go
anywhere they fly for free. Whooooo hooooo...

Hey CJ, I'll be down that way sometime this winter, I'll have to look you
up, I have a good friend in Scottsdale I go and visit. I love going to the
desert. My folks live near Palm Springs and that makes a handy launching pad
for some "cold relief".

Cody, you worry too much about what others are doing, worry about yourself
for a while ok?

EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT DAY, I AM!!!!!

Russ

> Hi Russ,
> Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> red beard the 'pirate' hahahahaha!
> Sue
Alan - 11 Sep 2005 07:50 GMT
> Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big
> place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to coast
> with the Aleutian Islands thrown in. If split into three equal pieces Texas
> would be the 4th largest state. No offense to you Texans.

It's funny you should mention being split into three? Doesn't your Bible say
something about that in one of those prophetical parts?

And apart from Mt St Helens still glowing in the darkness at this time, as you
can see at http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/mshvolcanocam.jpg

if you look at this map you can actually see prophesy being fulfilled:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/quakes_all_frames.html

And now that Nemesis has bound your god for a thousand years, Condi can wait as
long as she likes, but he is still not coming, and all preachers of hate will
now fall.

But of course, you're da man, and you aren't going to click on any links I
provide are you, and when the one that matters hits Adak, you won't even know
what hit you. Poor little monkey boy who thinks he is so smart.

"Do you want to go to war, boy?"

"Oh yes, please sir!"

(Courtesy of The Edgar Broughton Band)

Alan

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html
Russ Tanner - 11 Sep 2005 18:01 GMT
> In article <11i726krskp03b3@corp.supernews.com>, sourdo55@yahoo.com >
> It's funny you should mention being split into three? Doesn't your Bible
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>
> http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF???
Alan - 11 Sep 2005 18:25 GMT
> > In article <11i726krskp03b3@corp.supernews.com>, sourdo55@yahoo.com >
> > It's funny you should mention being split into three? Doesn't your Bible
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF???

Voodoo Child
    
     Well, I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand

Yeah

Well, I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
Well, I pick up all the pieces and make an island
Might even raise a little sand

Yeah

’cause I’m a voodoo child
Lord knows I’m a voodoo child baby
I want to say one more last thing
I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time
I’ll give it right back to ya one of these days

Hahaha

I said I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time
I’ll give it right back one of these days

Oh yeah

If I don’t meet you no more in this world then uh
I’ll meet ya on the next one
And don’t be late
Don’t be late

’cause I’m a voodoo child voodoo child
Lord knows I’m a voodoo child

Hey hey hey

I’m a voodoo child baby
I don’t take no for an answer

Alan

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

http://www.700women.org/
Dwight - 11 Sep 2005 08:08 GMT
> Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big
> place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to coast
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>
> Russ

Russ, glad to hear everything is going well for you and you have such a
good outlook on the dragon. Personally, I'm not quite ready to get back
into battle, it's taking a little longer to build up strength than it
used to. Oh well, gives me more time to play a little guitar without
forgetting everything I learn along the way. Maybe one day we can all
get together and do a little jamming. I think we all play a little
different styles of guitar and should make for an interesting sound.

For what it's worth, I hate this damned virus too and would love to just
forget about it for a while and live life as a normal person again,
whatever that may be.

Dwight
Russ Tanner - 11 Sep 2005 18:04 GMT
Dwight, I think you said it best, "Just forget about the virus for now".
Worrying about it isn't going to make it go away, so why let it get you
down?? Worry just makes stress and stress just makes our live's harder...

Yea, the heppers jam festivel, haha, that would be fun...

Take care buddy

Russ

>> Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big
>> place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to
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>
> Dwight
Alan - 11 Sep 2005 18:32 GMT
> Dwight, I think you said it best, "Just forget about the virus for now".
> Worrying about it isn't going to make it go away, so why let it get you
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Russ

There is always the War Child gig.

http://www.warchild.org/

Alan

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

http://www.700women.org/

Voodoo Child
    
     Well, I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand

Yeah

Well, I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
Well, I pick up all the pieces and make an island
Might even raise a little sand

Yeah

’cause I’m a voodoo child
Lord knows I’m a voodoo child baby
I want to say one more last thing
I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time
I’ll give it right back to ya one of these days

Hahaha

I said I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time
I’ll give it right back one of these days

Oh yeah

If I don’t meet you no more in this world then uh
I’ll meet ya on the next one
And don’t be late
Don’t be late

’cause I’m a voodoo child voodoo child
Lord knows I’m a voodoo child

Hey hey hey

I’m a voodoo child baby
I don’t take no for an answer
 
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