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Russ Tanner - 09 Sep 2005 05:00 GMT So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue has calmed down somewhat and I"m doing well.
Hard to keep up with all goings on with the news group, but I try. I finally got my new laptop back from CompUSA, and low and behold, right here at the RV campground some dummy has a unsecured wireless router I can log on and surf the net, hahahaha.... way cool.
Well wishes to everyone, next stop is Juneau for a month of work. Cool, get to see my nephew and ex-sis-inlaw. Lots of friends there as I lived there for 14 years.
Checking in and all is 5 by 5!
Russ
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 11:52 GMT > So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest of > the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue has > calmed down somewhat and I"m doing well. What makes you think anyone cares how cool you think you are?
> Hard to keep up with all goings on with the news group, but I try. I > finally got my new laptop back from CompUSA, and low and behold, right > here at the RV campground some dummy has a unsecured wireless router I can > log on and surf the net, hahahaha.... way cool. Cool to be a thief, eh?
> Well wishes to everyone, next stop is Juneau for a month of work. Cool, > get to see my nephew and ex-sis-inlaw. Lots of friends there as I lived [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Russ Don't bother.
Cody
ghibeluno - 09 Sep 2005 12:11 GMT Red Beard the Pirate ha scritto:
> [...] > > Cody "Red Beard the Pirate"? Now that is funny, Cody!
I didn't figure out it was a post of yours' until I read your signaure... It's good you put it as I was "concerned" that somebody else was blaming Russ as you're used to do!
Cheers, jeeb.
doogie - 09 Sep 2005 13:20 GMT >> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue >> has calmed down somewhat and I"m doing well. > > What makes you think anyone cares how cool you think you are? I care......... And BTW I really enjoy Russ's posts. Gets my mind down to earth and off this hep-c for awhile. doogie
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 13:41 GMT >>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I care......... And BTW I really enjoy Russ's posts. Gets my mind down > to earth and off this hep-c for awhile. doogie So you approve of Russ stealing bandwidth? You get off on his bragging about himself?
Cody
doogie - 09 Sep 2005 14:14 GMT >>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Cody You're wasting bandwidth now Cody. Discussion ended. doogie
Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 14:32 GMT >>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the >>>>> rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You're wasting bandwidth now Cody. Discussion ended. doogie Translation: "doogie" can't respond intelligently to questions asked because he knows he's wrong and can only dis me because he knows that's politically correct on this piss poor excuse for a support group.
Cody
Incantatrix - 09 Sep 2005 16:37 GMT "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> :
>>>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the >>>>>> rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >he knows he's wrong and can only dis me because he knows that's politically >correct on this piss poor excuse for a support group. if it is so piss poor, why do you keep reading it and post your own bullshit? you give buddhists a bad name, cody. caramba
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mhm 35x6 smeeter 37(?) wsd40
we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars wilde
Cody - 09 Sep 2005 16:42 GMT > "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> : [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > smeeter 37(?) > wsd40 I'm trying to improve the group is why. How come you have no comment regarding Russ bragging about stealing someone's bandwidth and can only diss me?
I guess, like "doogie", you want to be politically correct and not be ostrasized by the fart group.
Cody
Alan - 09 Sep 2005 17:50 GMT > > "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> > > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> : [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Cody Hey Cody, if you really want something to hammer the point home then you might try this:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
Alan
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Alan - 09 Sep 2005 18:11 GMT > > > "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> > > > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com> : [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm Oh and Cody, since my legal advisor gave me that link. and as the British Government has seen fit to outlaw "Preachers of Hate", I have done my duty as a citizen and faxed it to my M.P. and demanded that she uphold the law to it's full extent, and I emailed the newspaper, and one way or another I am going to get the law enforced regarding that religion.
Alan http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html
Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:19 GMT Alan, Thanks for the link to the "Dark Bible". Most interesting.
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> In article <w3iUe.88838$dr.18293@news.ono.com>, > nospam@nospam.comedunetcita ( [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Sep 2005 21:04 GMT I guess, like "doogie", you want to be politically correct and not be ostrasized by the fart group. Cody ////////// The 'fart group' are a bunch of loving, caring folk....only interested in helping others endure and thrive in a 'bad' situation. I've never smelled a fart that didn't bring a smile to my face, I don't care who you are....that's funny. Ostrasized by a farter? That IS funny! ahahahahahaha Now you're funny too, Cody. Pooooooootttt!! Elmo
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Alan - 09 Sep 2005 17:11 GMT > "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> > > <8agUe.95938$US.46541@news.ono.com: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars > wilde Hello "goddess". Would you like an introduction to MY real Goddess?
http://thanasis.com/modern/nemesis.htm
Nemesis - The Goddess of Divine Retribution, and believe me She is not finished yet.
This is The Hymn to Nemesis:
Nemesis, winged balancer of life, dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice, You who restrain with adamantine bridles the frivolous insolences of mortals, and spurning the destructive violence of mankind drive out black envy! Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit is spun the grey fortune of man and unnoticed You walk in his tracks, you bend the neck that is proud. Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom as You control the scales in Your hand. Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice, Nemesis, winged balancer of life. Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing, Victory with slender wings, all-powerful infallible, and the assistant to Justice, You who in displeasure at the pride of men carry it down into Tartarus.
In fact I made a special page full of goddesses:
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html
Or if, of course, you are more interested in what is coming you could try:
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/enigma.html
or
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
Do enjoy this lovely weekend goddess. I have this strange feeling that some people won't, especially those living in Alaska.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Quakes/quakes_big.html
Alan
Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:13 GMT How would you know? You admit you have never been through treatment. You say you have hep-C. But, have you ever been tested?
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>>>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the >>>>>> rest of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Cody Cody - 09 Sep 2005 19:37 GMT Yes, three times. All three came up with 1b.
Cody
> How would you know? You admit you have never been through treatment. You > say you have hep-C. But, have you ever been tested? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Cody Incantatrix - 09 Sep 2005 16:40 GMT "Red Beard the Pirate" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> <aqfUe.95932$US.13247@news.ono.com> :
>>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >>>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >So you approve of Russ stealing bandwidth? You get off on his bragging about >himself? if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it properly, they harvest what they saw. you should know that as the 'computer expert' in the group. pity you just have to nag everytime you post.
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mhm 35x6 smeeter 37(?) wsd40
we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars wilde
Alan - 09 Sep 2005 20:03 GMT > if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it > properly, they harvest what they saw. > you should know that as the 'computer expert' in the group. > pity you just have to nag everytime you post. Talking of reaping what we sew, do you still go in the catholic church and light candles for all your old friends? How many candles must that be now? And some went so unexpectedly.
Now I would like to introduce you to some very special friends of mine who call themselves 700 Women.org.
http://www.700women.org/
Now these nice American Ladies have been abused and mistreated, and they sent me an email today thanking me for my efforts and asking me to ask all my friends to sign their petition. Now I know you have lots of friends who are interested in protecting women, and I do really think you should help them out.
It's strange how such bad things happened to all those old friends of yours isn't it?
Nemesis works in a very mysterious way, you know?
Alan
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Alan - 12 Sep 2005 08:32 GMT > > if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it > > properly, they harvest what they saw. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/ You seem to be avoiding me goddess? Was it my pretty blue eyes?
By the way, guess what I did with those items you left at my place?
Rev Alan of The Church of Nemesis.
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html
From "Demons of Cthulhu" (1959):
[....] Lightest of all are the slumbers of Narrathoth, who may be awakened by the veriest novice in the art. Narrathoth lies drowsing beyond the Great Gate, hideous in form, servant to the sleeping Old Ones who wait for their day once more to dawn. But Narrathoth may be summoned from his blasphemous dreams and forced to serve. One who achieves control over him has access to the wealth of the world; but great care must be exercised, for fear of Narrathoth's wrath, for even he shares the might of the Old Ones, and pity be upon him who summons him and loses control.
Narrathoth is called by simple incantations. The blood of a male cat is needed, and the undergarment of a woman and [....]
Gordo Mondragon - 10 Sep 2005 01:02 GMT [...]
> if someone is so stupid to set up a wireless network without protecting it > properly, they harvest what they saw. > you should know that as the 'computer expert' in the group. > pity you just have to nag everytime you post. I know a number of people who purposely leave open networks so that others can use them.
Gordo
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 03:13 GMT >[...] > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Gordo Including me: I have a wide-open, public 802.11g hotspot along with a totally locked-down private 802.11a wap. If I check the mac address log on the "g" wap, on average I get about a dozen log-ons each week these days - mostly repeaters.
And they've all been stealing my bandwidth ;-)
Cheers
/greyhackles
Gordo Mondragon - 10 Sep 2005 04:47 GMT > >[...] > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > And they've all been stealing my bandwidth ;-) It's not stealing if you were already sharing.
I know who uses my bandwidth. I have no problems with it.
G
Cody - 10 Sep 2005 10:22 GMT >> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon >> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > G The "dummy" that didn't know he was sharing got his bandwidth stolen by Russ but no one on this board thinks that isn't right. Must be the Christian upbringing.
Cody
Paul - 10 Sep 2005 14:27 GMT On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:22:26 +0200, " Cody" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>, in message ID <iBxUe.88917$dr.71863@news.ono.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
>The "dummy" that didn't know he was sharing got his bandwidth stolen by Russ >but no one on this board thinks that isn't right. Must be the Christian >upbringing. Nothing to do with religious philosophy but using bandwidth without permission is certainly not right. Especially as some people have a capped service and have to pay more once a certain data transfer limit has been exceeded. Not right but hardly crime of the century. I haven't always paid for shareware. That's wrong too but I've done it. However, it's OK for me to do it because I'm an agnostic :-) <ducks>
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Thomas Wagner - 10 Sep 2005 18:52 GMT >Nothing to do with religious philosophy but using bandwidth without >permission is certainly not right. Especially as some people have a >capped service and have to pay more once a certain data transfer limit >has been exceeded. Metered service is very rare in the US, I haven't seen it offered anywhere in a while. I doubt it's different in Alaska. So I'm wondering what exactly was supposed to be "stolen" from whom. The costly bandwidth from the poor cable company? As others have pointed out, some people DO leave their access points open on purpose.
I know metered service is more common in Europe, but it would be the exception here.
> Not right but hardly crime of the century. I >haven't always paid for shareware. That's wrong too but I've done it. >However, it's OK for me to do it because I'm an agnostic :-) <ducks> Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they want (including nothing) without interference from nutcases. But we've known that for a very long time, and nobody's going to change him. So I have to wonder why some folks still swallow his bait...
Thomas
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Alan - 10 Sep 2005 19:15 GMT > Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What > he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thomas So *pretty* *red* *shirt* boi, why is it that you call Cody a religious zealot, and none of these X-tians? Would it be because you are just a loser who likes to run with the crowd for approval?
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
Let us examine the religion of hate:
Godly Mass Murder
"And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." (I Samuel 6:19) Comment
Here we have just one more instance of God performing mass murder, a sadistic killer far worse than Hitler, Attila the Hun or Pol Pot.
These verses should insult the intelligence of any person who thinks that God possesses a loving nature.
One should not dismiss the Old Testament's repeated demand for the vilest atrocities as something peculiar to the early Hebrews. Even today, our most atrocious wars, terrorism and hate crimes occur around the world based on ancient religious beliefs, many of them coming directly from verses in the Old and New Testament.
Kill All Unbelievers
"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)
"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)
"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15) Comment
These severe laws commanded the members of the Hebrew religion to murder even their own children if they did not worship Yahweh (God).
These Bible words can justify, to a fanatical fundamentalist believer, the killing of friends or family simply because they may fail to change their beliefs.
Why anyone today would accept these words, much less allow them to exist in a sacred book goes against the nature of any tolerant and loving people.
Kill Man, Woman, Infant
"Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and a.s." (I Samuel 15:2-3) Comment
No matter how one can justify possible crimes from adults, suckling infants have no means of acting out crimes. And what evil against God could the animals have possibly performed? Only an evil entity could kill innocent infants and animals, no matter what their parents and owners may have done.
King David's Holocaust
"And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under the axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem." (II Samuel 12:31) Comment
From the sacred scripts from the Bible we learn that the great King David carried out atrocities that rivaled the cruel acts from the holocaust of World War II. If we condemn the Nazi's for their atrocities, why should we not do the same for David's bloodthirsty actions?
Moses' Mass Murder
"Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." (Numbers 31:16-18) Comment
Moses commands the murder of approximately 100,000 young males and, roughly, 68,000 helpless women.
Consider women and children of your own family: No matter how sick they may lay, or how they may go against a religion, how would you feel if a man named Moses, claiming to speak for God, sent men into your house and hacked to pieces the women and male children? Also, how would you react if they spotted a female child, dragged her off with them to do as they please with her? Note that these innocent virgins served for their own sexual pleasures.
Midian, the land of the Midianites, did not reside in an area regarded as a natural enemy of Israel for centuries, and in fact lay hundreds of miles away from the Israelite encampment. Moses, himself, had lived in Midian as fugitive after committing his first murder. In short, Midian presented no threat to God's "Chosen People."
Nail His Head!
"Then Jael Heber's wife took a nail of the tent, and took an hammer in her hand, and went softly unto him, and smote the nail into his temples, and fastened it into the ground: for he was fast asleep and weary. So he died." (Judges 4:21) Comment
In verse 16 the Israelites surprise Sisera's army and that "there was not a man left," except Sisera who deserts his army and flees, a deed punishable by court martial today. Sisera then goes to the tent of Jael, the wife of Heber. Jael takes him in, hides him under a blanket, gives him milk to quench his thirst, and promises to stand guard at the door while he sleeps. Then Jael kills Sisera!
We see no telling of the slightest shame, but rather, Jael proudly flaunts her kill. The author of this piece of Scripture makes it clear that the passage represents a deed, not only as grand and heroic but also consistent with the will of God (see Judges 4:23).
Raping And Killing
"Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:15-16) Comment
These verses foretold the deaths of the people of Babylon. Fortunately not everyone in Babylon (now modern Iraq) fell by the sword or had their children dashed to pieces or their wives raped (just another instance of errors in the Bible). How some people who believe in an infallible Bible can accept these verses as God inspired, or morally uplifting can only give evidence to the blinding nature of belief. For if we believe these words as God inspired, then the killing of children and the raping of wives must also come as an inspiration from the Supreme Being.
Shed The Blood
"And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made the man." (Genesis 9:5-6) Comment
Some anti-abortionists have used these words to justify the killing of abortionists. As such, these words helped inspire Michael Griffin to kill Doctor David Gunn on March 10, 1993.
Consider that the Bible never directly addresses abortion, much the less the condemnation of it. On the contrary, God himself has condoned, not only miscarriages, but has personally called for the killing of suckling infants and the bashing of children against the rocks.
(See Numbers 5:26-27, I Samuel 15:2-3, and Psalm 137:9)
Slaughter Of Innocents
"And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain." (Deuteronomy 2:34)
"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves." (Deuteronomy 3:6-7) Comment
Such words helped give justification to mediaeval Crusaders who slaughtered men, women and children along their way to Jerusalem and stole the spoils of the cities. Even today, many Christian military men use Scripture to justify their actions. If any soldier harbors doubt about killing his fellow humans, he need only consult a military chaplain or read the Bible to calm their worries. Even George Bush (the First), with Billy Graham beside him, proclaimed the Gulf War as "moral." George Bush (the Second) continued in his father's steps by killing thousands of Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi war. Such moral wars result in thousands of "utterly destroyed" innocent men, women and children.;
(For a few more examples [but not all] see also Deuteronomy 3:3, 7:2, 20:16-17 , 25:19; Joshua 6:21, 8:26, 10-28-40; Numbers 31:17-18; I Samuel 15:3; Isaiah 13:16; and Hosea 13:16)
Slay Old And Young
"And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and woman: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house." (Ezekiel 9:5-6) Comment
These words, commanded by God, orders the slaying of not only women and the old, but of little children. These accounts of cold-blooded massacres occurred simply because people refused to accept Yahweh. These phrases should give warning to anyone who knows a person who believes every word in the Bible.
For what sense of moral reasoning should we allow ourselves to admire such Biblical verses?
The Survivors
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel." (Revelation 7:3-4)
"And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads." (Revelation 9:3-4) Comment
Here we have the great future destruction where millions of people will die. Only 144,000 Jews with a protective mark on their heads will survive.
Now do get back in your cage *pretty* *red* *shirt* boi, where you belong.
Alan
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 19:20 GMT [snipped]
>Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What >he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Thomas I blame my combo drugs ;-)
Well, that, and the reflexive need to stomp on a cockroach...
ahahahahahahahah! (<= ©Elmo ;-)
/greyhackles
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 12 Sep 2005 13:12 GMT Re: Seward Alaska Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Sep 10, 2005, 2:20pm (CDT+1) From: greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo.com (greyhackles) On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:52:31 -0400, Thomas Wagner <tomw@capecod.com> wrote: [snipped] Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. So it's not OK for him. What he just can't fathom is that others have a right to believe in what they want (including nothing) without interference from nutcases. But we've known that for a very long time, and nobody's going to change him. So I have to wonder why some folks still swallow his bait... Thomas I blame my combo drugs ;-) Well, that, and the reflexive need to stomp on a cockroach... ahahahahahahahah! (<= ©Elmo ;-) /greyhackles ///////////// ahahahahahahah!!!
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Alan - 10 Sep 2005 19:56 GMT > Well, Cody isn't, he's a religious zealot. > > Thomas And what does the bible say about *women*?
The Biblical view of women
The God of the Bible decrees that woman must submit to the dominance of man.
"The social and legal position of an Israelite wife was inferior to the position a wife occupied in the great countries round about... all the texts show that Israelites wanted mainly sons to perpetuate the family line and fortune, and to preserve the ancestral inheritance... A husband could divorce his wife; women on the other hand could not ask for divorce... the wife called her husband Ba'al or master; she also called him adon or lord; she addressed him, in fact, as a slave addressed his master or subject, his king. The Decalogue includes a man's wife among his possessions... all her life she remains a minor. The wife does not inherit from her husband, nor daughters from their father, except when there is no male heir. A vow made by a girl or married woman needs, to be valid, the consent of the father or husband and if this consent is withheld, the vow is null and void. A man had a right to sell his daughter. Women were excluded from the succession."
-Roland de Vaux, archaeologist and priest
Blue words represent Bible quotes
Burn The Daughter!
"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9) Comment
A priest's daughter, if found to have lost her virginity without marriage, can receive the death penalty, but in the form of incineration.
How many fundamentalist priests who so easily condemn others would carry out the burning of their daughters if they found them "whoring"?
(See also Genesis 38:24)
Cut Off Her Hand!
"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12) Comment
A wife would naturally wish to come to the aid of her husband in any way she could if he desperately struggled with an opponent, but the Hebrew law specifically forbade a wife to help her husband in distress if that support consisted of her grabbing the enemy's genitals in an effort to stifle his onslaught. The penalty? Amputation of the hand that fondled the genitals!
Only in an overly obsessive male dominated culture could men create such atrocious laws. As such, the penis ranked sacrosanct in the minds of men (as it still stands today). If a male lost his penis for any reason, he would lose the right to enter a congregation of God. (See Deuteronomy 23:1)
Female Births Get Penalty
"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)
"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5) Comment
A woman who gives birth to a child must undergo a purification ritual lest her "uncleanness" contaminate others. This not only entails her isolation, but also payments to priests for the ritual acts. Thus the male dominators had even made birth dirty.
Notice here that if a woman bears a female child, her isolation must last twice as long as that if she gives birth to a male child!
(See also Psalms 51:3-5)
"The Bible and the church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of woman's emancipation."
--Elizabeth Cady Stanton
Female Inferiority
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9) Comment
The Bible's decree of male supremacy has kept woman inferior to men for centuries. For the religious, it comes as a sad fact that a human must have a penis to receive any respect or power within the Church.
All woman should realize that such phrases in the Bible has justified for many Christian men, not only their supremacy but a reason to sexually abuse women.
(See also I Cor. 14:34-36, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24, Col. 3:18-19)
Jesus Will Kill Children
"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23) Comment
If anyone thinks Jesus represents only a peaceful loving soul, then think again. For an act of adultery, Jesus would kill innocent children for the adultery of others; hardly fair justice, love, or the concern for human beings.
Some apologists claim that "children" refers to the followers of a cult of Jezebel and not to children birthed from Jezebel. However, if this proved the case, the situation would appear even more horrific, for a cult of believers could number in the dozens, hundreds, thousands, or more. The deaths of these multitude of cult believers (which would include children within its membership) would only make the moralistic problem far more atrocious.
"It's interesting to speculate how it developed that in two of the most anti-feminist institutions, the church and the law court, the men are wearing the dresses."
--Flo Kennedy
Kill The Witches!
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20) Comment
These verses attest to the power of belief as they led to the slaughter of thousands of defenseless people throughout Europe and the rest of the world.
Understand that these verses not only authorize the executions but they explicitly command them.
Verse 18 justified the burning of women in Europe judged as witches. In early America, the Salem witch trials resulted in the deaths of women and men.
Verse 19 refers to bestiality, a sin considered worthy of death. Christians used verse 20 to justify religious wars, Crusades and the slaughter of unbelievers throughout Europe. And the condemnation of heretics still goes on.
Rape My Daughter
"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go." (Judges 19:24-25) Comment
Judges 19 describe a father who offers his virgin daughter to a drunken mob. When the father says "unto this man do not so vile a thing," he makes clear that sexual abuse should never befall a man (meaning him), yet a woman, even his own flesh and blood, or a concubine belonging to a perfect stranger, can receive punishment from men to do what they wish. This attitude against women still persists to this day and we have the Bible, in large part, to thank for this attitude against women.
Verse 25 describes the hours long gang rape of the poor concubine. The Bible gives not one hint of passion or concern for the raped girl. Considering that many people believe that every word in the Bible comes from God, it should not surprise anyone why people still use these verses to justify such atrocities.
Silence The Woman!
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14) Comment
Another case where the Bible makes it quite clear that women live for man and must submit to them.
"Man enjoys the great advantage of having a god endorse the code he writes; and since man exercises a sovereign authority over women it is especially fortunate that this authority has been vested in him by the Supreme Being. For the Jews, Mohammedans and Christians among others, man is master by divine right; the fear of God will therefore repress any impulse towards revolt in the downtrodden female."
--Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex 1949
(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Cor. 14:34-36, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24, Col. 3:18-19.)
Stone The Woman!
"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;" (Deuteronomy 22:22)
"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 22:24) Comment
(Read also Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
The discovery of a bride lying with another man can yield disastrous results.
If the wife's parents can produce tokens of the damsel's virginity and spread the cloth before the elders of the city, the husband has to pay the bride's father one hundred silver shekels and he may not send his wife back to her parents as long as she lives. But if the bride's virginity does not satisfy the requirements, the husband can get rid of her by letting the men of the city stone her to death.
From a practical level, these designed laws regulating women's virginity protected economic transactions between men rather than for the sake of morality. (See Virgin's Worth below)
"Virgin" Mistranslation
"Therefore the LORD himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14) Comment
Perhaps the most famous mistranslation of the Bible, the word virgin here comes from a mistranslated Greek word for virgin.
The original Hebrew version uses the word "almah" which means "young woman" which may or may not refer to a virgin. Of course the context of the original Hebrew Isaiah does not refer to a virgin at all, as scholars the world over agree, but only refers to a young woman.
Later, the author of Matthew 1:22-23, quoted from the mistranslated Isaiah version, and thus the error turned into a world-wide belief.
Today a few of the modern bibles such as the Revised Standard Version, have corrected this mistranslation and have replaced the word virgin with "young woman." (Isaiah 7:14, RSV)
Apparently either God makes errors or the Bible does not come from god, but rather from fallible men.
Virgin's Worth
"If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silvers, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days." (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) Comment
The belief some get about the Biblical law leads them to think that it represented a great advancement in morality. However, if we look at this law in the social and economic context, it becomes evident that it did not come from any moral ground, but rather to protect men's property rights of their wives and daughters.
This law says that since an unmarried girl, a non-virgin, no longer serves as an economically valuable asset, her father must receive compensation. As for the legal requirement of the man that caused the economic problem, his marriage in that society gave him practically unlimited power over their wives. Such forced marriage can hardly serve as a concern for the poor girl's welfare.
Wives, Submit Yourselves!
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24) Comment
These words of Paul describe another instance for the calling of the submission of women to their husbands. Note that the all inclusive "everything" could allow husbands to submit their wives to anything, including rape, beatings, slavery, etc.
(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Cor. 14:34-36, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Col. 3:18-19.)
Women Shall Not Speak
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35) Comment
If one ever wishes to find an explanation of woman's inferiority to men, one only has to look in the Bible. Paul makes clear and delineates the importance of woman recognizing her place, "ad nauseam."
(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24, Col. 3:18-19.)
"The bible teaches that women brought sin and death into the world, that she precipitated the fall of the race, that she was arraigned before the judgment seat of Heaven, tried, condemned and sentenced. Marriage for her was to be a condition of bondage, maternity a period suffering and anguish, and in silence and subjection, she was to play the role of a dependent on man's bounty for all her material wants, and for all the information she might desire... Here is the Bible position of woman briefly summed up."
--Elizabeth Cady Stanton
Women's Sorrow
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16) Comment
Not only does the Woman get blamed for the Fall, but God decides to multiply her sorrow, plus, she must submit to her husband like a slave.
Religionists have used this verse as justification and "reason" for the pain and punishment (sin) of childbirth and the sin of mankind. And to this day many Christians, Jews and Islamics place women lower then men in the ranking of Godly order. If ever there existed a more cruel justification against women, it could not have done as much damage as from belief in Genesis 3:16. Because of the belief in the Fall, countless Christians have branded the entire human race as depraved.
Before the advent of male dominated religions, cultures around the world respected women and worshipped goddesses. The Old Testament records the brutal slaughter of surrounding cultures and slowly throughout the centuries, the goddess religions faded away in place of the belief-system of a jealous, scatological, male war god.
"Christianity teaches that the human race is depraved, fallen, and sinful." --D. James Kennedy (Why I Believe, World Publishing, 1980)
Rip Up Pregnant Women
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16) Comment
Throughout the Bible, God smites those who do not believe in him or those who do not follow his commands. Here we have the grotesque description of infants dashed to pieces and pregnant women ripped up. Whatever rebellious nature an infant's father or mother may have had, it bears no justice to an innocent child or to an unborn fetus who could not possibly have rebelled against God, much less understood him.
Anyone who claims to love such a God, must accept infanticide as one of God's ugly revenges.
(See also Psalms 137:9)
The Wicked Woman
"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman." (Eccles. 25:13)
"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles. 25:22)
"If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give her a bill of divorce, and let her go." (Eccles. 25: 26)
"The whoredom of a woman may be known in her haughty looks and eyelids. If thy daughter be shameless, keep her in straitly, lest she abuse herself through overmuch liberty." (Eccles. 26:9-10)
"A silent and loving woman is a gift of the Lord: and there is nothing so much worth as a mind well instructed. A shamefaced and faithful woman is a double grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued." (Eccles. 26:14-15)
"A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord." (Eccles.26:25)
"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach." (Eccles. 42:13-14) Comment
Ecclesiasticus of the Apocrypha does not appear in most Bibles. However, in Catholic Bibles, the inferiority of woman still appears in the verses of Ecclesiasticus. These verses give only a sampling from this book that lowers the status of women.
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And I am telling you now Wagner, in the name of Nemesis, that you really should sign their petition, and before you say any more, think very carefully about what has befallen each and every X-tian who lied about me, and I warned Elmo that Nemesis was coming several weeks ago, and I bet you all laughed so loudly.
How is the woman who was so fond of praying for me to *her* god, by the way?
Alan.
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MCody - 10 Sep 2005 20:38 GMT >>Nothing to do with religious philosophy but using bandwidth without >>permission is certainly not right. Especially as some people have a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I know metered service is more common in Europe, but it would be the > exception here. The fact that Russ was bragging about it was what I was pointing out, how he took advantage of some "dummy".
>> Not right but hardly crime of the century. I >>haven't always paid for shareware. That's wrong too but I've done it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thomas Pointing out the fallacies of believing in a god is not being a religious zealot. I don't notice you taking any of the many Christian zealots to task but, like Alan said, you want to be a member in good standing of the god fearing in group.
Cody
Russ - 16 Sep 2005 05:24 GMT I have metered service, but it's a pretty big amount of gigabytes. I never come close to using it up. It's 10 gigs/month and then you pay more, but I never get over 2 gigs in a month and that's with my daughter downloading and carrying on ( BUT NOT ON MY COMPUTER!!!!). I have a second computer for the kids to use and get it all goofed up.
BTW, I cruised around Seward with my laptop on, there were hot spots all over the place. But then Alaskans are pretty friendly people and don't mind sharing.
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> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:22:26 +0200, " Cody" > <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita>, in message ID [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > haven't always paid for shareware. That's wrong too but I've done it. > However, it's OK for me to do it because I'm an agnostic :-) <ducks> Alan - 16 Sep 2005 17:27 GMT > I have metered service, but it's a pretty big amount of gigabytes. I never > come close to using it up. It's 10 gigs/month and then you pay more, but I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > over the place. But then Alaskans are pretty friendly people and don't mind > sharing. *snigger*
Yes, there are quite a few *hot-spots* around America, but they are nowhere near you. What you really have to worry about is the Juan de Fuca trench:
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/JuanDeFucaRidge/description_juan_de_fuca.htm l
And do you know what I find most enjoyable?
The fact that you have me kill-filed and won't be reading a single thing I say.
But Spidey does.
Alan, son of Nemesis.
Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation.
"We love your adherence to democratic principles."
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Nemesis, winged balancer of life, dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice, You who restrain with adamantine bridles the frivolous insolences of mortals, and spurning the destructive violence of mankind drive out black envy!
Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit is spun the grey fortune of man and unnoticed You walk in his tracks, you bend the neck that is proud. Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom as You control the scales in Your hand.
Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice, Nemesis, winged balancer of life. Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing, Victory with slender wings, all-powerful infallible, and the assistant to Justice, You who in displeasure at the pride of men carry it down into Tartarus.
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 16:45 GMT >>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon >>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >Cody "Cody, you ignorant slut."
How exactly do you know that - just as I do - the wifi cell that Russ used *wasn't being offered?
Viral load devouring your liver this week, eh? It shows...
/greyhackles ("messenger"? LMAO. It's spelled "utter fucktard", Cody...)
doogie - 10 Sep 2005 17:33 GMT >>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon >>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Cody Must be the Christian
> upbringing. ...... You are right Cody and The translation of that is > *forgiveness*. doogie MCody - 10 Sep 2005 18:20 GMT >>>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:14 GMT, Gordo Mondragon >>>> <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> upbringing. ...... You are right Cody and The translation of that is >> *forgiveness*. doogie Tell that to all the people in prison who are there due to stealing in order to eat.
Alias
greyhackles - 10 Sep 2005 16:42 GMT >> Including me: I have a wide-open, public 802.11g hotspot along with a totally >> locked-down private 802.11a wap. If I check the mac address log on the "g" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I know who uses my bandwidth. I have no problems with it. Did you miss the emoticon? Did my sarcasm escape notice?
/greyhackles (ok, I'll bring the dialog down a notch next time ;-)
Red Dwarf - 10 Sep 2005 11:35 GMT Same here Doogie, that's the way I feel also. I enjoy reading Russ's posts. Frequently I "read the mail", without actively posting myself, and sort of imagine what it must be like way up there in Alaska, and travel from job to job. Something I'm unable to do in my physical condition.I do keep putting this fool in my kill file, but just like a bad penny, he just keeps turning up, and up, and up.Life must really suck for him, and if my heart breaks for him, I'll swallow a band-aid. John
>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I care......... And BTW I really enjoy Russ's posts. Gets my mind down > to earth and off this hep-c for awhile. doogie doogie - 10 Sep 2005 17:42 GMT > Same here Doogie, that's the way I feel also. I enjoy reading Russ's > posts. Frequently I "read the mail", without actively posting myself, and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > heart breaks for him, I'll swallow a band-aid. > John Yeah I feel sorry for Cody sometimes too. But the 'campo el turdo' stuff is soooo funny. And Russ's life reminds me of someone that Robert W. Service might have written about. This group is enjoyable. doogie
Russ Tanner - 09 Sep 2005 14:47 GMT stealing bandwith???? yea I can see it now, some guys going to be destitute and poor because I "borrowed" his wi-fi for a few minutes a day... oh the horror, the horror........ course I could pay the $16 an hour down at the harbour for the same thing, nannnnn don't think so.
yea the bandwith you waste with your sh.t spewing mouth is trivial to the few minutes a day on line I use here.
besides, who cares what "you" think cody..... nobody here....
>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cody Red Beard the Pirate - 09 Sep 2005 15:21 GMT > stealing bandwith???? yea I can see it now, some guys going to be > destitute and poor because I "borrowed" his wi-fi for a few minutes a > day... oh the horror, the horror........ course I could pay the $16 an > hour down at the harbour for the same thing, nannnnn don't think so. So you admit being a thief.
> yea the bandwith you waste with your sh.t spewing mouth is trivial to the > few minutes a day on line I use here. Lovely.
> besides, who cares what "you" think cody..... > nobody here.... You speak for everyone? And, what, exactly, makes you think I care what people think?
"As the saying goes, "Be careful of where you point your finger, because you have three pointed right back at you!" and yes ali-a.s, I am and can be the biggest prick and a.shole you would ever meet if we were face to face!!! The guy in the black robe didn't send me to anger management for a year because I was a nice guy!!!!
Russ, reformed prick!! hahahahah
Now go back to your sand box like a good boy and leave us adults alone to talk."
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yea, he sat on a log and has a stick up his ali-a.s....
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haha, getting ali-a.s mad is like hitting the side of a barn with a 12 gauge shotgun!! LOL..... he must have a little prick and is insecure.... a girlyman for sure..
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cody, your so pathetic.... go get yourself a life somewhere if you know what that is....
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I tried that but he changes his email addy as often as he changes his diapers..... bring it on tater tot, I'll never tire of telling you to f.ck OFF!!!!!!!!
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GO f.ck YOURSELF WITH A LOG a.shole.......... YES THIS IS A f.cking CHAT ROOM, WHAT THE f.ck IS IT TO YOU, YOU SOME KIND OF INTERNET COP HERE OR WHAT?????
GO AWAY FUCKSTICK....
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>>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >>> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Cody Russ - 16 Sep 2005 05:26 GMT how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!!
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> > stealing bandwith???? yea I can see it now, some guys going to be > > destitute and poor because I "borrowed" his wi-fi for a few minutes a [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >> > >> Cody Cody - 16 Sep 2005 11:22 GMT > how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago > and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!! And you're not ashamed of such behaviour and can only diss me for posting them?
I didn't go back and look. I copied them as you posted them. They are, however, archived by Google for your grandchildren to read.
Cody
> Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> >> >> >> Cody Alan - 16 Sep 2005 17:34 GMT > > how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago > > and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cody Sadly I doubt that Russ will be having any grandchildren. But we can watch it all go down on here:
http://www.anchorageweathercam.com/
Alan, son of Nemesis.
Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation.
"We love your adherence to democratic principles."
-- Vice President George Bush to Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos
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http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
Nemesis, winged balancer of life, dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice, You who restrain with adamantine bridles the frivolous insolences of mortals, and spurning the destructive violence of mankind drive out black envy!
Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit is spun the grey fortune of man and unnoticed You walk in his tracks, you bend the neck that is proud. Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom as You control the scales in Your hand.
Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice, Nemesis, winged balancer of life. Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing, Victory with slender wings, all-powerful infallible, and the assistant to Justice, You who in displeasure at the pride of men carry it down into Tartarus.
Alan - 16 Sep 2005 17:32 GMT > how sad of a life you have, going through all those post's from months ago > and reposting them, man you really need to get a life!!!!! Hey look, a whole load of web-cams, just so we can all watch as Nemesis pops in for Her appointment with you:
http://www.anchorageweathercam.com/
Alan, son of Nemesis.
Anyone who doubts that I am the son of Nemesis is obviously an infidel lacking in faith whose soul is in peril of everlasting damnation.
"We love your adherence to democratic principles."
-- Vice President George Bush to Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html
http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
Nemesis, winged balancer of life, dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice, You who restrain with adamantine bridles the frivolous insolences of mortals, and spurning the destructive violence of mankind drive out black envy!
Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit is spun the grey fortune of man and unnoticed You walk in his tracks, you bend the neck that is proud. Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom as You control the scales in Your hand.
Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice, Nemesis, winged balancer of life. Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing, Victory with slender wings, all-powerful infallible, and the assistant to Justice, You who in displeasure at the pride of men carry it down into Tartarus.
Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:10 GMT Cody, I rarely say anything to you about your rudeness on this NG. But, that was really uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself. I really thought you were a better person than that.
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>> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest >> of the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Cody Shawn - 09 Sep 2005 19:24 GMT Hey Russ!! Nice to hear from you as always. Glad to hear you're havin' a good time!! Hugs from us!
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> So my friends, here I am in beautiful Seward, Alaska again for the rest of > the week. Job is going well, my spirits are well. The thyroid issue has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Russ Russ Tanner - 10 Sep 2005 01:27 GMT Same back at ya Shawn, and give Randi a big hug for me. I'm glad to see you on the 'puter and posting.
Well wishes to you both!
Russ
> Hey Russ!! Nice to hear from you as always. Glad to hear you're havin' a > good time!! Hugs from us! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Russ elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Sep 2005 21:15 GMT Right on, Russ!!! Elmo
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
burningdaylight - 10 Sep 2005 02:28 GMT Hi Russ, Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts, they make me feel warm on a cool night. I have never been to Alaska, and I hear your thoughts of how beautiful it is, but I guess it can be pretty rough up there in the winter. I can't imagine how you handle the cold and still love it. I hate the winters in Pennsylvania and think of Florida. Hope all is well and keep stealing the bandwidth just to piss off Cody aka red beard the 'pirate' hahahahaha! Sue
Alan - 10 Sep 2005 03:23 GMT > Hi Russ, > Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > red beard the 'pirate' hahahahaha! > Sue Yes, Alaska is such a pretty place. Here is a picture for you.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/AK10/55.65.-160.-140_eqs.html
and this is fun reading too:
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/release.php
This too:
http://www.ess.washington.edu/tsunami/index.html
and here is a pretty web-cam of washington state:
http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/mshvolcanocam.jpg
But hey, don't you go worrying about no science. Condi will come and tell you that "God is coming" after the day it happens, but I am telling you that it ain't God that is coming. It's Nemesis, the Goddess of Divine Retribution.
Alan
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
You ride around your white castle, On your little white horse You lie to your people, and blame it on your war of course
You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of sh.t
Oh, sweet Neo Con, What path have you led them on? Oh, sweet Neo Con, Is it time for the atom bomb?
You parade around in costume, Expecting to be believed But as the body bags stack up, We believe we've been deceived
The horror you've unleased, Will backfire with more grief When will you ever learn, Sweet Neo Con, as the world burns?
Oh, sweet Neo Con, What path have you led them on? Oh, sweet Neo Con, Is it time for the atom bomb? Oh, sweet Neo Con, What path have you led them on? Oh, sweet Neo Con, Is it time to drop the bomb?
My Sweet Neocon - Rolling Stones, Summer of 2005
Alan - 10 Sep 2005 09:02 GMT > > Hi Russ, > > Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/AK10/55.65.-160.-140_eqs.html and another:
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/activity.php
> and this is fun reading too: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/mshvolcanocam.jpg and two pretty Alaskan Web-cams
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/webcam/veni.php
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/webcam/spurr.php
> But hey, don't you go worrying about no science. Condi will come and tell you > that "God is coming" after the day it happens, but I am telling you that it [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > My Sweet Neocon - Rolling Stones, Summer of 2005 Now isn't that good of Nemesis sending me in here to give you such pretty Alaskan pictures?
And look, here is one of those "Keyword searches" that *pretty* *red* *shirt* boi is so good at using himself.
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/downloads/searchimg.php
Hey, I hope you all have a pleasant weekend.
Alan
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
Russ Tanner - 11 Sep 2005 02:30 GMT Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to coast with the Aleutian Islands thrown in. If split into three equal pieces Texas would be the 4th largest state. No offense to you Texans.
It cracks me up, I write a little hello to everyone and such a thread, thanks to the "camp turd", hehe.....
Yea I have the virus, but it doesn't stop me from living and enjoying life. It took me a while to come to terms with the failure of the treatment but I'm ok today and that is all that counts. I'll battle the dragon another day.
Yesterday it rained buckets, but woke up this morning to a nice blue pre-dawn morning. The daylight is going fast now, loosing over 5 minutes a day. I think its what I love about this place, the extremes of seasons. Plus I can always go somewhere warm for a while if I want to. Use up those Alaska Airline miles. I have a credit card, I get a mile for every dollar I spend. I pay for everything with it and pay it off every month. What a deal for $75 a year. I have over 70,000 miles, at 20, 000 miles a ticket I can go anywhere they fly for free. Whooooo hooooo...
Hey CJ, I'll be down that way sometime this winter, I'll have to look you up, I have a good friend in Scottsdale I go and visit. I love going to the desert. My folks live near Palm Springs and that makes a handy launching pad for some "cold relief".
Cody, you worry too much about what others are doing, worry about yourself for a while ok?
EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT DAY, I AM!!!!!
Russ
> Hi Russ, > Just read some of the crap Cody started. I also like reading your posts, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > red beard the 'pirate' hahahahaha! > Sue Alan - 11 Sep 2005 07:50 GMT > Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big > place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to coast > with the Aleutian Islands thrown in. If split into three equal pieces Texas > would be the 4th largest state. No offense to you Texans. It's funny you should mention being split into three? Doesn't your Bible say something about that in one of those prophetical parts?
And apart from Mt St Helens still glowing in the darkness at this time, as you can see at http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/mshvolcanocam.jpg
if you look at this map you can actually see prophesy being fulfilled:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/quakes_all_frames.html
And now that Nemesis has bound your god for a thousand years, Condi can wait as long as she likes, but he is still not coming, and all preachers of hate will now fall.
But of course, you're da man, and you aren't going to click on any links I provide are you, and when the one that matters hits Adak, you won't even know what hit you. Poor little monkey boy who thinks he is so smart.
"Do you want to go to war, boy?"
"Oh yes, please sir!"
(Courtesy of The Edgar Broughton Band)
Alan
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html
Russ Tanner - 11 Sep 2005 18:01 GMT > In article <11i726krskp03b3@corp.supernews.com>, sourdo55@yahoo.com > > It's funny you should mention being split into three? Doesn't your Bible [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF???
Alan - 11 Sep 2005 18:25 GMT > > In article <11i726krskp03b3@corp.supernews.com>, sourdo55@yahoo.com > > > It's funny you should mention being split into three? Doesn't your Bible [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF??? Voodoo Child Well, I stand up next to a mountain And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
Yeah
Well, I stand up next to a mountain And I chop it down with the edge of my hand Well, I pick up all the pieces and make an island Might even raise a little sand
Yeah
’cause I’m a voodoo child Lord knows I’m a voodoo child baby I want to say one more last thing I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time I’ll give it right back to ya one of these days
Hahaha
I said I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time I’ll give it right back one of these days
Oh yeah
If I don’t meet you no more in this world then uh I’ll meet ya on the next one And don’t be late Don’t be late
’cause I’m a voodoo child voodoo child Lord knows I’m a voodoo child
Hey hey hey
I’m a voodoo child baby I don’t take no for an answer
Alan
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
http://www.700women.org/
Dwight - 11 Sep 2005 08:08 GMT > Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big > place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to coast [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Russ Russ, glad to hear everything is going well for you and you have such a good outlook on the dragon. Personally, I'm not quite ready to get back into battle, it's taking a little longer to build up strength than it used to. Oh well, gives me more time to play a little guitar without forgetting everything I learn along the way. Maybe one day we can all get together and do a little jamming. I think we all play a little different styles of guitar and should make for an interesting sound.
For what it's worth, I hate this damned virus too and would love to just forget about it for a while and live life as a normal person again, whatever that may be.
Dwight
Russ Tanner - 11 Sep 2005 18:04 GMT Dwight, I think you said it best, "Just forget about the virus for now". Worrying about it isn't going to make it go away, so why let it get you down?? Worry just makes stress and stress just makes our live's harder...
Yea, the heppers jam festivel, haha, that would be fun...
Take care buddy
Russ
>> Thanks Sue, it's a great place to live. A land of extremes. Such a big >> place, if placed over a map of the usa it would stretch from coast to [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Dwight Alan - 11 Sep 2005 18:32 GMT > Dwight, I think you said it best, "Just forget about the virus for now". > Worrying about it isn't going to make it go away, so why let it get you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Russ There is always the War Child gig.
http://www.warchild.org/
Alan
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
http://www.700women.org/
Voodoo Child Well, I stand up next to a mountain And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
Yeah
Well, I stand up next to a mountain And I chop it down with the edge of my hand Well, I pick up all the pieces and make an island Might even raise a little sand
Yeah
’cause I’m a voodoo child Lord knows I’m a voodoo child baby I want to say one more last thing I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time I’ll give it right back to ya one of these days
Hahaha
I said I didn’t mean to take up all your sweet time I’ll give it right back one of these days
Oh yeah
If I don’t meet you no more in this world then uh I’ll meet ya on the next one And don’t be late Don’t be late
’cause I’m a voodoo child voodoo child Lord knows I’m a voodoo child
Hey hey hey
I’m a voodoo child baby I don’t take no for an answer
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