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The Thyroid Chronicles

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kjoh - 26 Aug 2005 20:15 GMT
Well here's my latest data folks.  Midway thru week 27 my doc called and
said stop tx.  Seems my TSH thyroid and WBC are unacceptable to him.  WBC
is at 2.4 (normal is 4.5-11) and TSH is at 0.20 (normal is
.27-4.2).Neupogen is prescribed for the WBC, but will take days to happen
because I must go thru my mailorder pharmacy or pay 500$/mo for it
(insured!) locally.  So we make lots of phone calls and wait.  The thyroid
number is pretty extreme.  Because of an inverse correlation, the very low
number indicates high hyperthyroid.  Oddly, I don't feel as awful as I did
the first six months of tx, when thyroid was *controlled* with synthroid.
I'm new at the chinese puzzle of thyroid numbers and it is a very boring
subject to everyone, including my endocrinologist, but my tx doc seems to
think that this number will get her attention, so I wait also for her
call.  No real indication of how long this lag might take.  I am most
unhappy about it because i had reached a kind of equilibrium with tx.  To
recap, I'm geno 1b, was hypothyroid for years before tx, now 27 weeks into
tx, but with a 4 week lapse also at week 12 because of vision troubles.
Undetectable at week 12 and week 24 :) which is what keeps me going.  My
riba and Infer dose have been at about 80% of recommended for some time,
partly because my weight dropped 25 pound to 120 in the first few months
and i was having one heck of a time.  I'll be making phone calls every day
and holding sit-ins at the docs until we get this rolling again. Comments
on the numbers?

Beautiful friday evening here in the Rockies. How's that pooch Elmo?
Kathy
kjoh - 26 Aug 2005 20:56 GMT
Well crap i typed that thyroid number wrong.  My TSH is 0.020 and the
normal range is 0.27 - 4.2.  So it is way out of range. I should be
bouncing off the walls but i'm sitting here quietly.  Who knows?  Kathy
P.S. Today's stuck-in-my-head tune:
(in Lyle's voice)
I lit out from Reno
I was trailed by twenty hounds
Didn't get to sleep that night
Till the morning came around
I set out running but I take my time
A friend of the Devil is a friend of mine
If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight
I ran into the Devil, babe
He loaned me twenty bills
I spent that night in Utah
In a cave up in the hills
I set out running but I take my time
A friend of the devil is a friend of mine
If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight
JV - 27 Aug 2005 02:17 GMT
I don't know why he stopped your tx. My TSH was 0.01 when i went hyper
on tx. They put me on tapazole and then I went hypo with a TSH of
150.00. I still continued tx. Interferon really plays the thyroid for a
fool. If you cleared at 12 weeks thats a very good sign. My wbc was 4.7
and rbc was 4.36 at the lowest. If your not feeling real screwed up from
being hyper you may already have passed this part and returning to hypo.
When are you going to see the Endo? and how many weeks do you have left?
More than likely you will become hypo again the average for women is
hypo on tx and after tx, and only a few become hyper after its all over
mostly men. Russ is hyper from tx and his thyroid will probably burn its
self out in time. Hang in there and wait for the stuff in the mail. TX
is full of surprises.
                                     Juanita

Aug 26, 2005, 3:56pm (PDT+3) From: kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh)
Well crap i typed that thyroid number wrong. My TSH is 0.020 and the
normal range is 0.27 - 4.2. So it is way out of range. I should be
bouncing off the walls but i'm sitting here quietly. Who knows? Kathy
P.S. Today's stuck-in-my-head tune:
(in Lyle's voice)
I lit out from Reno
I was trailed by twenty hounds
Didn't get to sleep that night
Till the morning came around
I set out running but I take my time
A friend of the Devil is a friend of mine If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight
I ran into the Devil, babe
He loaned me twenty bills
I spent that night in Utah
In a cave up in the hills
I set out running but I take my time
A friend of the devil is a friend of mine If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight
Russ - 03 Sep 2005 06:03 GMT
>Russ is hyper from tx and his thyroid will probably burn its
> self out in time.

YES MAMN I AM I AM!!    I had the antibodies test, I have both for Graves
and Hashimoto. Sort of a tug a war...... funny, harder I work, the more
hyper, no work I crash like an atom bomb and sleep and sleep.... yea maybe
someday, but not for now. I'm really doing ok, as long as I can get my
sleep.

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> I don't know why he stopped your tx. My TSH was 0.01 when i went hyper
> on tx. They put me on tapazole and then I went hypo with a TSH of
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> A friend of the devil is a friend of mine If I get home before daylight
> I might get some sleep tonight
JV - 03 Sep 2005 23:31 GMT
I have been wondering about how your doing, Lovely Russ just lovely,
there is tx for you with tapazole or PTU (thyroid inhibitors) it comes
in as little as 5mg on up which will stop the madness of the hyper, if
you get the thyroid under control and put it to sleep with tapazole then
the lacking of T4-T3 can be replaced with thyroid hormones if you need
them. A common treatment for Graves until the thyroid shuts it self
down.
Your thyroid is a mess from hell, like mine. Graves/hashimoto's what
F---ing fun. This hyper situation is not good it accelerates liver
disease and other stuff, your sounding like your getting beyond the
atenolol and xanax for relief. Eventually their not going to have any
effect on you.
I was hyper before tx and found great relief from only 5mg of tapazole
along with atenolol. Valium had no effect after a while. It isn't
strange the more and harder you work the more your thyroid will over
produce. Not fun at all when you cant sleep. Now, don't keep this risky
hyper thyroid business going. Do something before you end up with a
heart attack.
What are your type & numbers on the abs tests?
so far I got
Thyroid stimulating Immunoblobin  95
cut off >129 this is the graves one.
Anti Thyroglobulin 20  cut off  is >25
Antithyroid Peroxidase will be done 9-9 still in the dark on this one.
Selenium backs off abs and lowers them, so I am taking 200mcg a day. I
am at last, getting better. The last dose raise of Armour about killed
me but brought me up at last. This has taken 4 months so far and will
probably need to raise it 2 more times. grrrrr. You take care Russ and
keep calm.
                                             Juanita

sourdo55 at yahoo.com (Russ)
Russ is hyper from tx and his thyroid will probably burn its self out in
time.
YES MAMN I AM I AM!!   I had the antibodies test, I have both for
Graves and Hashimoto. Sort of a tug a war...... funny, harder I work,
the more hyper, no work I crash like an atom bomb and sleep and
sleep.... yea maybe someday, but not for now. I'm really doing ok, as
long as I can get my sleep.
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"JV" <Meling333@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I don't know why he stopped your tx. My TSH was 0.01 when i went hyper
on tx. They put me on tapazole and then I went hypo with a TSH of
150.00. I still continued tx. Interferon really plays the thyroid for a
fool. If you cleared at 12 weeks thats a very good sign. My wbc was 4.7
and rbc was 4.36 at the lowest. If your not feeling real screwed up from
being hyper you may already have passed this part and returning to hypo.
When are you going to see the Endo? and how many weeks do you have left?
More than likely you will become hypo again the average for women is
hypo on tx and after tx, and only a few become hyper after its all over
mostly men. Russ is hyper from tx and his thyroid will probably burn its
self out in time. Hang in there and wait for the stuff in the mail. TX
is full of surprises.
                                                                              Juanita

Russ - 04 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
Juanita- I haven't a clue what my test results were as I've been working and
haven't been back to the doc's yet. But I gotta eat and pay the rent so that
will have to wait a bit, maybe in a couple of weeks I'll get in there and
see what's up with the blood work. And get a hard copy. I can't get it
across them to MAIL ME THE f.cking TEST RESULTS. I'm going to lay down the
law there. A couple a months ago I had a TSH and a Free T-4, they did mail
me the results. A note on the test, "Everything is looking normal". I had to
look up the ranges, I was above the normal range for T-4. I caught the Dr.
on that the next time I saw him, he didn't have much to say. That's when I
quit taking levothyroxin. A month later I quit the Cymbalta (over a month
ago), I feel more like my old self then ever before. Man that treatment
really kick the snot out of me, but lately I am doing ok. I'm going to stick
with what I'm doing for now as it works and I feel pretty f.cking good.
Maybe when I get done with work some time off might help to settle things
down.

One thing I have noticed, I feel more like I used to feel, I've always been
very energetic and a hard worker. Perhaps I have had a slight over active
thyroid all along?? My TSH when I started this mess was 2.09.

Anyway, as long as I sleep, I'm ok. Xanax work great, I sleep good and the
atenolol work well to keep the heart rate down and BP in normal range. I'll
deal with this later this fall when work grinds to a halt. Fall is here, the
smell of the cranberries and the coolness of the nights are upon us, in a
month it will be close to winter. I love it here!!

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I have been wondering about how your doing, Lovely Russ just lovely,
there is tx for you with tapazole or PTU (thyroid inhibitors) it comes
in as little as 5mg on up which will stop the madness of the hyper, if
you get the thyroid under control and put it to sleep with tapazole then
the lacking of T4-T3 can be replaced with thyroid hormones if you need
them. A common treatment for Graves until the thyroid shuts it self
down.
Your thyroid is a mess from hell, like mine. Graves/hashimoto's what
F---ing fun. This hyper situation is not good it accelerates liver
disease and other stuff, your sounding like your getting beyond the
atenolol and xanax for relief. Eventually their not going to have any
effect on you.
I was hyper before tx and found great relief from only 5mg of tapazole
along with atenolol. Valium had no effect after a while. It isn't
strange the more and harder you work the more your thyroid will over
produce. Not fun at all when you cant sleep. Now, don't keep this risky
hyper thyroid business going. Do something before you end up with a
heart attack.
What are your type & numbers on the abs tests?
so far I got
Thyroid stimulating Immunoblobin  95
cut off >129 this is the graves one.
Anti Thyroglobulin 20  cut off  is >25
Antithyroid Peroxidase will be done 9-9 still in the dark on this one.
Selenium backs off abs and lowers them, so I am taking 200mcg a day. I
am at last, getting better. The last dose raise of Armour about killed
me but brought me up at last. This has taken 4 months so far and will
probably need to raise it 2 more times. grrrrr. You take care Russ and
keep calm.
                                             Juanita

sourdo55 at yahoo.com (Russ)
Russ is hyper from tx and his thyroid will probably burn its self out in
time.
YES MAMN I AM I AM!! I had the antibodies test, I have both for
Graves and Hashimoto. Sort of a tug a war...... funny, harder I work,
the more hyper, no work I crash like an atom bomb and sleep and
sleep.... yea maybe someday, but not for now. I'm really doing ok, as
long as I can get my sleep.
Signature

Russ
Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com
"JV" <Meling333@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3832-430FBF26-243@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net...
I don't know why he stopped your tx. My TSH was 0.01 when i went hyper
on tx. They put me on tapazole and then I went hypo with a TSH of
150.00. I still continued tx. Interferon really plays the thyroid for a
fool. If you cleared at 12 weeks thats a very good sign. My wbc was 4.7
and rbc was 4.36 at the lowest. If your not feeling real screwed up from
being hyper you may already have passed this part and returning to hypo.
When are you going to see the Endo? and how many weeks do you have left?
More than likely you will become hypo again the average for women is
hypo on tx and after tx, and only a few become hyper after its all over
mostly men. Russ is hyper from tx and his thyroid will probably burn its
self out in time. Hang in there and wait for the stuff in the mail. TX
is full of surprises.
Juanita

Wendela - 27 Aug 2005 02:36 GMT
Kjoh,
Larry has been on Neupogen all along. His white count is 2.2 now and
drops .3 every month, even while on the Neupogen. But his platelets
have gone up. They also seem to focus on Neutraphil (spell?) levels.
The MD offices absolutly have some of this to give out so try pleading
with your MD to allow you to stay on.  I would ask the doctor's office
to call your pharmacy mail order house on your behalf. The people at
Roche (call the nurse) hotline will also contact the company for you,
provided you take the Pegasys product. Someone just quoted a song for
me "all the roads of life are winding, all that leads you are
blinding".  I don't necessarily get into this, but I must admit it's
catchy. I've never heard the song.  Hang in there!

                Wendy
kjoh - 27 Aug 2005 03:04 GMT
Hey Juanita, Sue, Wendy, thanks for your posts, and the numbers you were
able to provide for quick comparison.  I also just got a call from my
Endocrinologist, she said the TSH number was no reason to pull me off Tx
and she clarified that today with my tx doc.  Amazmo. Something good just
happened here. The cosmos momentarily aligned  :)
So except for waiting (a week maybe?) for the Neupogen to arrive, there's
really no reason for me to interrupt tx...  I'll go over this with my doc
early next week.  In the meantime I feel so confused I might accidentally
continue my regular dosing...   :)
Many thanks for the swift contact.

Wendy welcome back.  I'm newish here.  We're always interested in hearing
other folks data, even yours (we all have a variation on chronic fatigue
in this group) So anytime you have the energy to share your stories, we
are interested.

Doing better now. Think I'll have some fat.
Kathy
burningdaylight - 28 Aug 2005 01:01 GMT
Wow!! Glad that you are still on tx, good luck with your tsh and wbc. Hang
in there until they cut you down!
Sue
greyhackles - 27 Aug 2005 03:29 GMT
>Kjoh,
>Larry has been on Neupogen all along. His white count is 2.2 now and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>                 Wendy

You have it right, Neutrophil counts are clearly the key for dose modification
and/or intervention with human growth factors. WBC counts aren't even
mentioned in the product information sheets for Roche's combo therapy, they
key on Absolute Neutrophil Counts, and recommend modification of therapy if it
goes below 0.5 10^3/ml.

I've noticed if I'm having a good RBC/HGB week, my plates and whites are down,
and vice versa. I ought to try to find out if this is expected, I really don't
know enough about bone marrow considering how much I've been hammering mine
over the last 43 weeks...

Cheers

/greyhackles
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 27 Aug 2005 15:25 GMT

Re: The Thyroid Chronicles  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 3:56pm (CDT+1)
From: kjohyayhoo@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh)
Well crap i typed that thyroid number wrong. My TSH is 0.020 and the
normal range is 0.27 - 4.2. So it is way out of range. I should be
bouncing off the walls but i'm sitting here quietly. Who knows? Kathy
P.S. Today's stuck-in-my-head tune:
(in Lyle's voice)
I lit out from Reno
I was trailed by twenty hounds
Didn't get to sleep that night
Till the morning came around
I set out running but I take my time
A friend of the Devil is a friend of mine If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight
I ran into the Devil, babe
He loaned me twenty bills
I spent that night in Utah
In a cave up in the hills
I set out running but I take my time
A friend of the devil is a friend of mine If I get home before daylight
I might get some sleep tonight
///////
Lyle?  Or do you mean "Jerry'? :-)
elmo

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burningdaylight - 27 Aug 2005 02:19 GMT
I'm not the expert here, but in my opinion WBC isn't that low, at least not
low enough to stop tx. I was 1.7 WBC from week one, when it fell to 1.3 at
6 weeks I was taken off tx instead of being put on Neupogen. Have your doc
rethink this as you have a lot of time and effort invested in fighting this
thing.
Sue
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 27 Aug 2005 15:22 GMT
Sorry to hear you had to stop.  I would have argued with the doc about
that in spite of the numbers as long as I felt ok.  
With a little luck, you still may very well have beaten the dragon.

Heidi isn't doing very well.  The vet has me giving her antibiotics as
well as the prednisone.  If she hasn't improved in the next week or so
or if she continues to decline, I'll have a tough decision to make.
Elmo

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kjoh - 27 Aug 2005 17:37 GMT
Hey Elmo, I'm sorry to hear that Heidi is still hurting.  I am pulling for
her. I bet you'll be surprised.  My old fat cat is still pretty spry.  She
can sprint all the way across the yard when I rattle the kibble can.  It's
a downhill slope and she builds up so much speed and her back end is so
fat that she almost goes into a headlong tumble every time.  

Friend of the Devil in Lyle's voice is from a collection album by various
artists called Deadicated.  It's a lovely version of the song.  Mellow and
poignant.  Check it out.  I was a little bit late coming into the rock and
roll scene so I didn't evolve with the Dead and Jimmy and Janis the way
others did, but I did loop in early enough to understand the magnitude.
I'm still a major fan of Janis.  I got really serious about rock about the
time I laid eyes on Bruce touring for Born to Run in a small hall in
Portland called the Paramount.  I saw amazing things in that Hall.  Waylon
with Willie, Jackson with Warren, Robin Trower on his Birthday! Fogelburg
and Kotke and Doc Watson and Bill Monroe... Pink floyd was at the helm in
those days.  How can it be that I was so fortunate?  But I ramble.  Hugs
for you and Heidi from me and Smelly Cat :)   :)

P.S. I don't think I'll be breaking in  tx after all.
eileen - 27 Aug 2005 20:40 GMT
> Heidi isn't doing very well.  The vet has me giving her antibiotics as
> well as the prednisone.  If she hasn't improved in the next week or so
> or if she continues to decline, I'll have a tough decision to make.
> Elmo

Sorry Elmo, I have been there before, and it's not easy. I'll still be
saying a few.
eileen
JV - 29 Aug 2005 02:17 GMT
Dont give up on Heidi yet she is not a old dog hopefully this is just a
bump in the road and I sure hope she can recover from this. What is
wrong with her??, last post I read she had back problems?
Sorry to hear she is not doing well.  Juanita

Aug 27, 2005, 9:22am (PDT+2) From: elmoemerson@webtv.net
Sorry to hear you had to stop. I would have argued with the doc about
that in spite of the numbers as long as I felt ok. With a little luck,
you still may very well have beaten the dragon.
Heidi isn't doing very well. The vet has me giving her antibiotics as
well as the prednisone. If she hasn't improved in the next week or so or
if she continues to decline, I'll have a tough decision to make. Elmo
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 29 Aug 2005 04:03 GMT
I'm not giving up on my little girl unless it becomes obvious she's
either in unbearable pain, which she's not, or til she doesn't want to
go on.  I haven't the faintest idea what the f.ck is wrong with her, nor
does it seem like the vets know.  She's been diagnosed with everything
from  pancreatitis to arthritis to some sort of tick borne illness in
the past few weeks. Heidi is eating alright, a pound of steak and her
dried food.  I've been giving her medicine in a bowl of ice cream the
last couple of days.  She always has enjoyed her ice cream as well as
hugs and kisses.  Getting her up to go outside is a real chore.  Her
limbs just don't seem to work.  She's very alert, you'd not know she was
sick looking into her eyes, but she just doesn't move.  Sort of like me
on treatment.  :-)  I'm not giving up on her, Juanita, too many cats and
squirrels to chase yet.  
Thanks, gal!  
Love you,
Elmo
////////////
  Dont give up on Heidi yet she is not a old dog hopefully this is
just a bump in the road and I sure hope she can recover from this. What
is wrong with her??, last post I read she had back problems? Sorry to
hear she is not doing well. Juanita
Aug 27, 2005, 9:22am (PDT+2) From: elmoemerson@webtv.net Sorry to hear
you had to stop. I would have argued with the doc about that in spite of
the numbers as long as I felt ok. With a little luck, you still may very
well have beaten the dragon. Heidi isn't doing very well. The vet has me
giving her antibiotics as well as the prednisone. If she hasn't improved
in the next week or so or if she continues to decline, I'll have a tough
decision to make. Elmo
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JV - 29 Aug 2005 04:29 GMT
She should be getting her antibiotics on an empty stomach absorption can
be less with dairy foods. Was the tick borne illness in her blood tests?
She sounds rather stiff and soar. Hope she gets better soon. If its
arthritis, glucosamine has done wonder for dogs with arthritis, makes a
big difference.. There is also allot of thyroid problems with dogs and
cats now days has her thyroid been checked? In the alt.thyroid.support
its quite interesting learning about humans and dogs and their thyroid
problems.  Good luck with her.
                                     Juanita        
Dwight - 29 Aug 2005 04:57 GMT
> I'm not giving up on my little girl unless it becomes obvious she's
> either in unbearable pain, which she's not, or til she doesn't want to
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>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Elmo, maybe the prenisone is causing hallucinations as it has on me and
on others as well (no I'm not joking). Or maybe it's the heat has gotten
her down, or a combination of both. If it is arthritis I can sure
empathize with her, if I get down on the floor to play with my daughter
or cats, I have an extremely har time getting back up. Hope she starts
to feel better soon and that difficult decision won't have to made for
years to come.

Dwight
doogie - 30 Aug 2005 01:22 GMT
Elmo, If that was our girl and I couldn't get a proper dx/handle on the
cause I would first try antibiotics (a doxycillin type) remember paralysis
ticks and lyme ticks and hell knows what else.  If there was no improvement
I would then try  steroids and remember some vets are way better than others
(like liver docs).  I really hope she gets better.  doogie

I'm not giving up on my little girl unless it becomes obvious she's
either in unbearable pain, which she's not, or til she doesn't want to
go on.  I haven't the faintest idea what the f.ck is wrong with her, nor
does it seem like the vets know.  She's been diagnosed with everything
from  pancreatitis to arthritis to some sort of tick borne illness in
the past few weeks. Heidi is eating alright, a pound of steak and her
dried food.  I've been giving her medicine in a bowl of ice cream the
last couple of days.  She always has enjoyed her ice cream as well as
hugs and kisses.  Getting her up to go outside is a real chore.  Her
limbs just don't seem to work.  She's very alert, you'd not know she was
sick looking into her eyes, but she just doesn't move.  Sort of like me
on treatment.  :-)  I'm not giving up on her, Juanita, too many cats and
squirrels to chase yet.
Thanks, gal!
Love you,
Elmo
////////////
Dont give up on Heidi yet she is not a old dog hopefully this is
just a bump in the road and I sure hope she can recover from this. What
is wrong with her??, last post I read she had back problems? Sorry to
hear she is not doing well. Juanita
Aug 27, 2005, 9:22am (PDT+2) From: elmoemerson@webtv.net Sorry to hear
you had to stop. I would have argued with the doc about that in spite of
the numbers as long as I felt ok. With a little luck, you still may very
well have beaten the dragon. Heidi isn't doing very well. The vet has me
giving her antibiotics as well as the prednisone. If she hasn't improved
in the next week or so or if she continues to decline, I'll have a tough
decision to make. Elmo
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 30 Aug 2005 13:40 GMT
She's been taking prednisone, started her on doxycillin last Saturday.
She's in a tailspin, won't get up except maybe twice a day to move from
my entertainment room where I hang out to the bedroom when I crash at
night.  To get her out to the bathroom, I have to catch her on one of
those two moments.  She wouldn't eat or take her meds yesterday.  At
least she's drinking water if I set the bowl next to her.  My vets are
excellent.
Thanks for your concern.  It's heartbreaking seeing my gal not getting
better.  
Elmo
//////////
Elmo, If that was our girl and I couldn't get a proper dx/handle on the
cause I would first try antibiotics (a doxycillin type) remember
paralysis ticks and lyme ticks and hell knows what else. If there was no
improvement I would then try steroids and remember some vets are way
better than others (like liver docs). I really hope she gets better.
doogie
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:665-43127AEA-238@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... I'm not giving up
on my little girl unless it becomes obvious she's either in unbearable
pain, which she's not, or til she doesn't want to go on. I haven't the
faintest idea what the f.ck is wrong with her, nor does it seem like the
vets know. She's been diagnosed with everything from pancreatitis to
arthritis to some sort of tick borne illness in the past few weeks.
Heidi is eating alright, a pound of steak and her dried food. I've been
giving her medicine in a bowl of ice cream the last couple of days. She
always has enjoyed her ice cream as well as hugs and kisses. Getting her
up to go outside is a real chore. Her limbs just don't seem to work.
She's very alert, you'd not know she was sick looking into her eyes, but
she just doesn't move. Sort of like me on treatment. :-) I'm not giving
up on her, Juanita, too many cats and squirrels to chase yet.
Thanks, gal!
Love you,
Elmo
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Dont give up on Heidi yet she is not a old dog hopefully this is just a
bump in the road and I sure hope she can recover from this. What is
wrong with her??, last post I read she had back problems? Sorry to hear
she is not doing well. Juanita
Aug 27, 2005, 9:22am (PDT+2) From: elmoemerson@webtv.net Sorry to hear
you had to stop. I would have argued with the doc about that in spite of
the numbers as long as I felt ok. With a little luck, you still may very
well have beaten the dragon. Heidi isn't doing very well. The vet has me
giving her antibiotics as well as the prednisone. If she hasn't improved
in the next week or so or if she continues to decline, I'll have a tough
decision to make. Elmo
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Brian - 30 Aug 2005 17:46 GMT

Elmo,My heart goes out to you.I feel your pain.I had to have my cat Sara put
to sleep a few month's ago and it really f.cked me up.Although she was 20
years old that didn't make any difference to me.I still miss her with all my
heart.Know that my thoughts are with you and your little girl.

BrianD

> She's been taking prednisone, started her on doxycillin last Saturday.
> She's in a tailspin, won't get up except maybe twice a day to move from
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Russ - 03 Sep 2005 05:58 GMT
ha, I was  .01 on my TSH , 3 weeks later it was 49..... that was about
midway. Now here I am over a year after 48 weeks for 1a, and my thyroid is
more HYPER then HYPO. I have had a lot of blood work on this but have yet to
have the chance to see the Doc about it. Doc took me off of the synthroid.
I've been off of them for almost 2 months. The harder I work the hyper I
get, and insomnia is a real issue. Try working 14 hours and not sleep a
second. Then the next day worked 15 hours. We were in Kodiak 30 miles south
of the city, no cell phones, couldn't get ahold of my doc for more xanax and
atenolol, BP running over 150/90, pulse 100+, sleeping was a f.cking
bitch!!!! Forget Excedrin PM, worthless.

Anyway, long story short, I got ahold of my doc's office over a cell that
was on two bars of signal and was screaming to be heard, SEND ME A SCRIPT OF
90 25MG ATENOLOL AND 90 .5MG XANAX PLEASE SAFEWAY IN KODIAK CITY... phone
bleeps out. To my surprise he sent those scripts and with the two I finally
started to sleep good and work was possible. NO work, no pay, no insurance,
no nothing. I was in-between a rock and a hard place.

For now I'm doing good as long as I get my sleep. It's funny, the harder I
work, the more HYPER my thyroid gets. I have 4 days off this weekend and
hopefully will get some rest. BTW, I got a gravy job. Paving, easiest job
I've had in years. No stress, no back breaking work, just run the paver....
in some great country too..

WHHHOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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> Well here's my latest data folks.  Midway thru week 27 my doc called and
> said stop tx.  Seems my TSH thyroid and WBC are unacceptable to him.  WBC
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> Beautiful friday evening here in the Rockies. How's that pooch Elmo?
> Kathy
 
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