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Mother Teresa - Where are her Millions?
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Alias - 18 Jun 2005 13:44 GMT The Following Feature Appeared in Germany's STERN magazine on 10 September 1998 on occasion on Mother Teresa's 1st death anniversary. It is worth pointing out here that STERN, one of Europe's highest selling magazines, is a conservative organ, not known for its anti-Catholic bias.
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MOTHER TERESA : WHERE ARE HER MILLIONS? by
Walter Wuellenweber
The Angel of the poor died a year ago. Donations still flow in to her Missionaries of Charity like to no other cause. But the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize vowed to live in poverty. What then, happened to so much money?
If there is a heaven, then she is surely there: Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu from Skopje in Macedonia, better known as Mother Teresa. She came to Calcutta on the 6th of Januray 1929 as an 18 year old sister of the Order of Loreto. 68 years later luminaries from all over the world assembled in Calcutta in order to honour her with a state funeral. In these 68 years she had founded the most successful order in the history of the Catholic church, received the Nobel Peace Prize and became the most famous Catholic of our time.
Are doubts permitted, regarding this "monument"?
In Calcutta, one meets many doubters.
For example, Samity, a man of around 30 with no teeth, who lives in the slums. He is one of the "poorest of the poor" to whom Mother Teresa was supposed to have dedicated her life. With a plastic bag in hand, he stands in a kilometre long queue in Calcutta's Park Street. The poor wait patiently, until the helpers shovel some rice and lentils into their bags. But Samity does not get his grub from Mother Teresa's institution, but instead from the Assembly of God, an American charity, that serves 18000 meals here daily.
"Mother Teresa?"says Samity, "We have not received anything from her here. Ask in the slums -- who has received anything from the sisters here -- you will find hardly anybody."
Pannalal Manik also has doubts. "I don't understand why you educated people in the West have made this woman into such a goddess!" Manik was born some 56 years ago in the Rambagan slum, which at about 300 years of age, is Calcutta's oldest. What Manik has achieved, can well be called a "miracle". He has built 16 apartment buildings in the midst of the slum -- living space for 4000 people. Money for the building materials -- equivalent to DM 10000 per apartment building -- was begged for by Manik from the Ramakrishna Mission [a Indian/Hindu charity], the largest assistance-organisation in India. The slum-dwellers built the buildings themselves. It has become a model for the whole of India. But what about Mother Teresa? "I went to her place 3 times," said Manik. "She did not even listen to what I had to say. Everyone on earth knows that the sisters have a lot of money. But no one knows what they do with it!"
In Calcutta there are about 200 charitable organisations helping the poor. Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity are not amongst the biggest helpers: that contradicts the image of the organisation. The name "Mother Teresa" was and is tied to the city of Calcutta. All over the world admirers and supporters of the Nobel Prize winner believe that it must be there that her organisation is particularly active in the fight against poverty. "All lies," says Aroup Chatterjee . The doctor who lives in London was born and brought up in Calcutta. Chatterjee who has been working for years on a book on the myth of Mother Teresa, speaks to the poor in the slums of Calcutta, or combs through the speeches of the Nobel Prize winner. "No matter where I search, I only find lies. For example the lies about schools. Mother T has often stated that she runs a school in Calcutta for more than 5000 children. 5000 children! -- that would have to be a huge school, one of the biggest in all of India. But where is this school? I have never found it, nor do I know anybody who has seen it!" says Chatterjee.
Compared to other charitable organisations in Calcutta, the nuns with the 3 blue stripes are ahead in two respects: they are world famous, and, they have the most money. But how much exactly, has always been a closely guarded secret of the organisation. Indian law requires charitable organisations to publish their accounts. Mother Teresa's organisation ignores this prescription! It is not known if the Finance Ministry in Delhi who would be responsible for charities' accounts, have the actual figures. Upon STERN's inquiry, the Ministry informed us that this particular query was listed as "classified information".
The organisation has 6 branches in Germany. Here too financial matters are a strict secret. "It's nobody's business how much money we have, I mean to say how little we have," says Sr Pauline, head of the German operations. Maria Tingelhoff had had handled the organisation's book-keeping on a voluntary basis until 1981. "We did see 3 million a year," she remembers. But Mother Teresa never quite trusted the worldly helpers completely. So the sisters took over the financial management themselves in 1981. "Of course I don't know how much money went in, in the years after that, but it must be many multiples of 3 million," estimates Mrs Tingelhoff. "Mother was always very pleased with the Germans."
Perhaps the most lucrative branch of the organisation is the "Holy Ghost" House in New York's Bronx. Susan Shields served the order there for a total of nine and a half years as Sister Virgin. "We spent a large part of each day writing thank you letters and processing cheques," she says. "Every night around 25 sisters had to spend many hours preparing receipts for donations. It was a conveyor belt process: some sisters typed, others made lists of the amounts, stuffed letters into envelopes, or sorted the cheques. Values were between $5 and $100.000. Donors often dropped their envelopes filled with money at the door. Before Christmas the flow of donations was often totally out of control. The postman brought sackfuls of letters -- cheques for $50000 were no rarity." Sister Virgin remebers that one year there was about $50 million in a New York bank account. $50 million in one year! -- in a predominantly non-Catholic country. How much then, were they collecting in Europe or the world? It is estimated that worldwide they collected at least $100 million per year -- and that has been going on for many many years.
While the income is utter secret, the expenditures are equally mysterious. The order is hardly able to spend large amounts. The establishments supported by the nuns are so tiny (inconspicuous) that even the locals have difficulty tracing them. Often "Mother Teresa's Home" means just a living accomodation for the sisters, with no charitable funstion. Conspicuous or useful assistance cannot be provided there. The order often receives huge donations in kind, in addition to the monetary munificence. Boxes of medicines land at Indian airports. Donated foograins and powdered milk arrive in containers at Calcutta port. Clothing donations from Europe and the US arrive in unimaginable quantities. On Calcutta's pavement stalls, traders can be seen sellin used western labels for 25 rupees (DM1) apiece. Numerous traders call out, "Shirts from Mother, trousers from Mother."
Unlike with other charities, the Missionaries of Charity spend very little on their own management, since the organisation is run at practically no cost. The approximately 4000 sisters in 150 countries form the most treasured workforce of all global multi-million dollar operations. Having taken vows of poverty and obedience, they work for no pay, supported by 300,000 good citizen helpers.
By their own admission, Mother Teresa's organisation has about 500 locations worldwide. But for purchase or rent of property, the sisters do not need to touch their bank accounts. "Mother always said, we don't spend for that," remembers Sunita Kumar, one the richest women in Calcutta and supposedly Mother T's closest associate outside the order. "If Mother needed a house, she went straight to the owner, whether it was the State or a private person, and worked on him for so long that she eventually got it free."
Her method was also successful in Germany.In March the "Bethlehem House" was dedicated in Hamburg, a shelter for homeless women. Four sisters work there. The archtecturally conspicuous building cost DM2.5 million. The fortunes of the order have not spent a penny toward the amount. The money was collected by a Christian association in Hamburg. With Mother T as figure head it was naturally short work to collect the millions.
Mother Teresa saw it as as her God given right never to have to pay anyone for anything. Once she bought food for her nuns in London for GB£500. When she was told she'd have to pay at the till, the diminutive seemingly harmless nun showed her Balkan temper and shouted, "This is for the work of God!" She raged so loud and so long that eventually a businessman waiting in the queue paid up on her behalf.
England is one of the few countries where the sisters allow the authorities at least a quick glance at their accounts. Here the order took in DM5.3 million in 1991. And expenses (including charitable expenses)? -- around DM360,000 or less than 7%. Whatever happened to the rest of the money? Sister Teresina, the head for England, defensively states, "Sorry we can't tell you that." Every year, according to the returns filed with the British authorities, a portion of the fortune is sent to accounts of the order in other countries. How much to which countries is not declared. One of the recipients is however, always Rome. The fortune of this famous charitable organistaion is controlled from Rome, -- from an account at the Vatican bank. And what happens with monies at the Vatican Bank is so secret that even God is not allowed to know about it. One thing is sure however -- Mother's outlets in poor countries do not benefit from largesse of the rich countries. The official biographer of Mother Teresa, Kathryn Spink, writes, "As soon as the sisters became established in a certain country, Mother normally withdrew all financial support." Branches in very needy countries therefore only receive start-up assistance. Most of the money remains in the Vatican Bank.
STERN asked the Missionaries of Charity numerous times for information about location of the donations, both in writing as well in person during a visit to Mother Teresa's house in Calcutta. The order has never answered.
"You should visit the House in New York, then you'll understand what happens to donations," sayssays Eva Kolodziej. The Polish lady was a Missionary of Charity for 5 years. "In the cellar of the homeless shelter there are valuable books, jewellery and gold. What happens to them? -- The sisters receive them with smiles, and keep them. Most of these lie around uselessly forever."
The millions that are donated to the order have a similar fate. Susan Shields (formerly Sr Virgin) says, "The money was not misused, but the largest part of it wasn't used at all. When there was a famine in Ethiopia, many cheques arrived marked 'for the hungry in Ethiopia'. Once I asked the sister who was in charge of accounts if I should add up all those very many cheques and send the total to Ethiopia. The sister answered, 'No, we don't send money to Africa.' But I continued to make receipts to the donors, 'For Ethiopia'."
By the accounts of former sisters, the finances are a one way street. "We were always told, the fact that we receive more than other orders, shows that God loves Mother Teresa more. ," says Susan Shields. Donations and hefty bank balances are a measure of God's love. Taking is holier than giving.
The sufferers are the ones for whom the donations were originally intended. The nuns run a soup kitchen in New York's Bronx. Or, to put in straight, they have it run for them, since volunteer helpers organise everything, including food. The sisters might distribute it. Once, Shields remembers, the helpers made an organisational mistake, so they could not deliver bread with their meals. The sisters asked their superior if they could buy the bread. "Out of the question -- we are a poor organisation." came the reply. "In the end, the poor did not get their bread," says Shields. Shields has experienced countless such incidents. One girl from communion class did not appear for her first communion because her mothet could not buy her a white communion dress. So she had to wait another year; but as that particular Sunday approached, she had the same problem again. Shields (Sr Virgin) asked the superior if the order could buy the girl a white dress. Again, she was turned down -- gruffly. The girl never had her first communion.
Because of the tightfistedness of the rich order, the "poorest of the poor" -- orphans in India -- suffer the most. The nuns run a home in Delhi, in which the orphans wait to be adopted by, in many cases, by foreigners. As usual, the costs of running the home are borne not by the order, but by the future adoptive parents. In Germany the organisation called Pro Infante has the monopoly of mediation role for these children. The head, Carla Wiedeking, a personal friend of Mother Teresa's, wrote a letter to Donors, Supporters and Friends which ran:
"On my September vist I had to witness 2 or 3 children lying in the same cot, in totally overcrowded rooms with not a square inch of playing space. The behavioural problems arising as a result cannot be overlooked." Mrs Wiedeking appeals to the generosity of supporters in view of her powerlessness in the face of the children's great needs. Powerlessness?! In an organisation with a billion-fortune, which has 3 times as much money available to it as UNICEF is able to spend in all of India? The Missionaries of Charity has have the means to buy cots and build orphanages, -- with playgrounds. And they have enoungh money not only for a handful orphans in Delhi but for many thousand orphans who struggle for survival in the streets of Delhi, Bombay and Calcutta.
Saving, in Mother Teresa's philosophy, was a central value in itself. All very well, but as her poor organisation quickly grew into a rich one, what did she do with her pictures, jewels, inherited houses, cheques or suitcases full of money? If she wished to she could now cater to people not by obsessively indulging in saving, but instead through well thought-out spending. But the Nobel Prize winner did not want an efficient organisation that helped people efficiently. Full of pride, she called the Missionaries of Charity the "most disorganised organisation in the world". Computers, typewriters, photocopiers are not allowed. Even when they are donated, they are not allowed to be installed. For book-keeping the sisters use school notebooks, in which they write in cramped pencilled figures. Until they are full. Then everything is erased and the notebook used again. All in order to save.
For a sustainable charitable system, it would have been sensible to train the nuns to become nurses, teachers or managers. But a Missionary of Charity nun is never trained for anything further.
Fueklled by her desire for un-professionalism, Mother Teresa decisions from year to year became even more bizarre. Once, says Susan Shields, the order bought am empty building from the City of New York in order to look after AIDS patients. Purchase price: 1 dollar. But since handicapped people would also be using the house, NY City management insisted on the installation of a lift (elevator). The offer of the lift was declined: to Mother they were a sign of wealth. Finally the nuns gave the building back to the City of New York.
While the Missionaries of Charity have already witheld help from the starving in Ethiopia or the orphans in India -- despite having received donations in their names -- there are others who are being actively harmed by the organisation's ideology of disorganisation. In 1994, Robin Fox, editor of the prestigious medical journal Lancet, in a commentary on the catastrophic conditions prevailing in Mother Teresa's homes, shocked the professional world by saying that any systematic operation was foreign to the running of the homes in India: TB patients were not isolated, and syringes were washed in lukewarm water before being used again. Even patients in unbearable pain were refused strong painkillers, not because the order did not have them, but on principle. "The most beautiful gift for a person is that he can participate in the suffering of Christ," said Mother Teresa. Once she had tried to comfort a screaming sufferer, "You are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing you." The sufferer screamed back, furious, "Then tell your Jesus to stop kissing me."
The English doctor Jack Preger once worked in the home for the dying. He says, "If one wants to give love, understanding and care, one uses sterile needles. This is probably the richest order in the world. Many of the dying there do not have to be dying in a strictly medical sense." The British newspaper Guardian described the hospice as an "organised form of neglectful assistance".
It seems that the medical care of the orphans is hardly any better. In 1991 the head of Pro Infante in Germany sent a newsletter to adoptive parents:"Please check the validity of the vaccinations of your children. We assume that in some case they have been vaccinated with expired vaccines, or with vaccines that had been rendered useless by improper strotage conditions." All this points to one thing, something that Mother Teresa reiterated very frequently in her speeches and addresses -- that she far more concerened with life after death than the mortal life.
Mother Teresa's business was : Money for a good conscience. The donors benefitted the most from this. The poor hardly. Whosoever believed that Mother Teresa wanted to cahnge the world, eliminate suffering or fight poverty, simply wanted to believe it for their own sakes. Such people did not listen to her. To be poor, to suffer was a goal, almost an ambition or an achievement for her and she imposed this goal upon those under her wings; her actual ordained goal was the hereafter.
With growing fame, the founder of the order became somewhat conscious of the misconceptioons on which the Mother Teresa phenomenon was based. She wrote a few words and hung them outside Mother House:
"Tell them we are not here for work, we are here for Jesus. We are religious above all else. We are not social workers, not teachers, not doctors. We are nuns."
One question then remains: For what, in that case, do nuns need so much money?
Alan - 18 Jun 2005 14:29 GMT <snip>
Would you like to know what else pissed me off so that I trolled this newsgroup?
People saying bad things about people who have passed away.
Sister Theresa isn't here to defend herself anymore, and she therefore can't defend herself. She's dead, and if she thought she could "save" anybody then that was her problem, and quite frankly I have no time for people who sit around complaining about how they didn't get a hand-out from so and so, because they usually aren't worth spending the time of day on either.
So why is it that you persist in trying to piss everybody off, and for that matter why don't they all do what they said they were going to do and put you in a kill-file?
In fact, why the hell am I bothering to answer you anyway?
Hey, I could act the big drama queen here and say <plonk> LMAO.
Hey Elmo, you "Stupid Texan" I made you such pretty icons on my web-site, but I guess the wedding has started now so I'll take your e-mail address off now. Hee-Hee.
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Alias - 18 Jun 2005 14:32 GMT > In fact, why the hell am I bothering to answer you anyway? Good question. It certainly wasn't because you had anything intelligent to say.
Alias
JV - 18 Jun 2005 17:58 GMT Cactus Jammies - 18 Jun 2005 22:24 GMT JV spaced today, eh?
you feel that earthquake out in the Pacific off the coast of Cresent City or what have ya?
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cactus jammies not plannin on gettin hit by a fallin bear nowhere. ///////
JV - 19 Jun 2005 03:40 GMT Hi CJ Actually Russ is now the bear expert. I haven't seen one in 1 year since I moved down the hill a bit. Though I did see a bear up the road down here in 2000 he was a blond one and light in color. Have felt no earthquakes up here in Northern Calif but 4 this week and a 6.6 at midnight is not good. Southern Calif has been falling apart first floods, homes are still sliding down hills there as of last week..and it is dry.. I got sick of earthquakes in SF. being born and raised there I always found them disturbing as in school, having drills making little kids scared, it worked. So I left when i was 21. I did feel the quake in SF up here in 91 that took out all the old over pass's. Now I have a hell of a time getting on the Bay bridge to come home since their all gone. I can remember another earthquake. there is so many!!! my mom grabbed me from the tub I was really little. Watching the chandelier swing back and forth was common. such a creepy place that city. I spent most of all my time in Golden Gate park running wild, a hundred things to do and working at the Palace of Fine Arts known as the Exploratorium for Dr. Opinhymer Brilliant people those Opinhymer scientists. Growing up living next to the park was such a fun place to be. I had to move to a park like setting such as the mountains and be surrounded by trees and animals after my experience in the city. Then the park got scarier. Around 12 we found a body in the park one day, we never told no one. And the Zodiac killer was lose and running around back then. Any way that my 2 cents. On quakes and bears. Juanita
Red Dwarf - 19 Jun 2005 11:12 GMT Juanita, I clearly remember that quake. It was called the Loma Prieta quake, after the mtn. it was centered under. I was on my home from work in Sunnyvale, stopped at a red light and my car started rocking big time, and the utility poles were oscillating back and forth. It was scary, and about 60 people lost their lives. I'll never forget the news footage of those folks caught in the Cypress structure in Oakland, and when it collapsed and fell on them, the cars were crushed down to just a few inches. My family was spared, though some neighbors near my home in San Jose had some damage. In my house, the only sign of anything amiss was the globes of the chandeliers were tilted out of place. That was during the world series baseball game, in which San Francisco played Oakland. The first earthquake I ever experienced was just after I had arrived in California. In early 1984 I was working for Mcdonnell Douglas Information System Group on N. 1st street in San José, and as our biggest just completed computers/communications processors were rolling around the plant floor(they were on wheels for ease of moving from place to place).We had to dodge then, or be hurt. What really blew me away though was the Venetian blinds on the shop floor were wildly swinging back and forth, and somebody explained that the blinds were just hanging there, and it was the building that was moving. Earthquakes, who needs them. The noise alone is enough to scare the hell out of you. Incidentally, I was in the same place with co-workers crowded around the tv watching the ill fated shuttle lift-off, that when it exploded killing the crew, and a civilian teacher from New Hampshire named Krista McAuliffe. It was one of things that one remembers exactly where one was and we doing at the time. Kinda of when Kennedy was assassinated I was in class in Junior High school, and when man walked on the moon for the first time, I was in San Diego watching it on tv. John
> Hi CJ > Actually Russ is now the bear expert. I haven't seen one in 1 year since [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > one. And the Zodiac killer was lose and running around back then. Any > way that my 2 cents. On quakes and bears. Juanita Russ - 19 Jun 2005 16:59 GMT We get those all the time up here, usually just little shakers. 2-3 years ago we had a 7.5 up near Tok, I guess they did a great job on the oil pipeline because it was built to withstand a 7.5 and it held up. I went hunting up there a couple a weeks later and you could see where the straight section of the road had shifted a full 15 feet from the center line. Big cracks on the hills and stuff. Up there it really tore up the road. In Palmer where I live I remember it started to shake, the gal I was living with and I were in the front room and I said, "Were having a earthquake!". It just kept getting stronger, I was holding up these oil lamps up on the wall, it went on for over 2 minutes. As soon as it quit I called my brother in Juneau and told him we just had a strong shaker, then he pauses and says, "sh.t, I can feel it". In the seconds after it quit here I called him and like a wave in the ocean it hit Juneau a minute later. I guess it shook up the water in Lake Ponchtrain (sp?) in Louisiana!!
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> Juanita, I clearly remember that quake. It was called the Loma Prieta quake, > after the mtn. it was centered under. I was on my home from work in [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > one. And the Zodiac killer was lose and running around back then. Any > > way that my 2 cents. On quakes and bears. Juanita Red Dwarf - 19 Jun 2005 17:28 GMT One of the scary things about earthquakes, is that once it starts, you don't know how long it will last, nor how big it's going to be. It's kind of like when Adam and Eve were together, and as Adam starts to get an erection for the first time, he said to Eve"better stand back woman, I don't know big this thing is going to get". John
> We get those all the time up here, usually just little shakers. 2-3 years > ago we had a 7.5 up near Tok, I guess they did a great job on the oil [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] >> > one. And the Zodiac killer was lose and running around back then. Any >> > way that my 2 cents. On quakes and bears. Juanita elmoemerson@webtv.net - 20 Jun 2005 00:04 GMT Wow!! Double jeopardy.....I would imagine with all the earthquakes, you wouldn't want to be standing under a tree when it happened for fear it would shake a bear out of the tree and onto you. Freaky, man! Really freaky! Elmo
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 19 Jun 2005 13:18 GMT Re: Do Not Feed, Do not Post Self Controll Needed. Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2005, 9:24pm (CDT+5) From: not@joshuatree.nemor (Cactus Jammies) JV spaced today, eh? you feel that earthquake out in the Pacific off the coast of Cresent City or what have ya? ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha cactus jammies not plannin on gettin hit by a fallin bear nowhere. /////// Yeah, I worry about falling bears all the time. That tree falling on my house this past week has got me thinking that perhaps I should cut down ALL the trees in the yard. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting crushed by a falling black bear. Geez, why can't things be easier? Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it. Elmo
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Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2005, 9:24pm (CDT+5) From: not@joshuatree.nemor (Cactus Jammies) JV spaced today, eh? you feel that earthquake out in the Pacific off the coast of Cresent City or what have ya? ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha cactus jammies not plannin on gettin hit by a fallin bear nowhere. /////// Yeah, I worry about falling bears all the time. That tree falling on my house this past week has got me thinking that perhaps I should cut down ALL the trees in the yard. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting crushed by a falling black bear. Geez, why can't things be easier? Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it. Elmo //////////////////////////////////// did you just fart?
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 20 Jun 2005 00:00 GMT Re: Do Not Feed, Do not Post Self Controll Needed. Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Jun 19, 2005, 2:21pm (CDT+5) From: not@joshuatree.nemor (Cactus Jammies) <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message news:20292-42B5627F-64@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... Re: Do Not Feed, Do not Post Self Controll Needed. Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2005, 9:24pm (CDT+5) From: not@joshuatree.nemor (Cactus Jammies) JV spaced today, eh? you feel that earthquake out in the Pacific off the coast of Cresent City or what have ya? ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha cactus jammies not plannin on gettin hit by a fallin bear nowhere. /////// Yeah, I worry about falling bears all the time. That tree falling on my house this past week has got me thinking that perhaps I should cut down ALL the trees in the yard. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting crushed by a falling black bear. Geez, why can't things be easier? Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it. Elmo //////////////////////////////////// did you just fart? H ah aahahhahhaha cj /////////////////////// How did you know? BBQ pork and cole slaw for dinner. (brrrrrrtttt) Elmo
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Cactus Jammies - 20 Jun 2005 00:46 GMT you coulda jumped in the tub and played motor boat and if you got any on ya, it would have gone down the drain. a very clean elmo for the cake portion. There was cake? Cmon, there has to be cake! OK, no cake, then collard greens, ya, collard greens with garlic and arsenic. keep ya beeping. ha ha
cactus jammies <envious> not responsible for misprints or fuzzy screens or hairy earlobes ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in Re: Do Not Feed, Do not Post Self Controll Needed. /////// Yeah, I worry about falling bears all the time. That tree falling on my house this past week has got me thinking that perhaps I should cut down ALL the trees in the yard. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting crushed by a falling black bear. Geez, why can't things be easier? Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it. Elmo //////////////////////////////////// did you just fart? Hah hahahahhahhaha cj /////////////////////// How did you know? BBQ pork and cole slaw for dinner. (brrrrrrtttt) Elmo
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 20 Jun 2005 13:17 GMT Wow, I haven't played motor boat since I was a kid, probably for the reason that you mentioned. 'Fromps' were always my specialty in the tub. Cut loose a big one, hear the FROMP, watch the large bubble rise from underneath you, then get a waft of it as it breaks the suface. Those were the good ole days. Showers are 'in' these days, no more bathtubs. It almost takes all the fun out of farting. Yes, there was cake. My mom brought it over. It was quite the F's Day feast of smoked ribs and brisket, baked beans, corn on the cob, cole slaw and potato salad. Heidi sat and cried, begging from my mom til she became a big enough pain in the a.s that I fed her brisket. My folks looked at me like I was nuts while I cut up a bunch of it for her and gave it to her with her dried food. Heidi had more brisket than any of us. I wasn't about to tell her how good the ribs were. :-) Elmo (I was gonna sue over the hairy earlobes til I read your disclaimer... damn!) /////////// you coulda jumped in the tub and played motor boat and if you got any on ya, it would have gone down the drain. a very clean elmo for the cake portion. There was cake? Cmon, there has to be cake! OK, no cake, then collard greens, ya, collard greens with garlic and arsenic. keep ya beeping. ha ha cactus jammies <envious> not responsible for misprints or fuzzy screens or hairy earlobes ////////////////////////////////////////////// <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in Re: Do Not Feed, Do not Post Self Controll Needed. /////// Yeah, I worry about falling bears all the time. That tree falling on my house this past week has got me thinking that perhaps I should cut down ALL the trees in the yard. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting crushed by a falling black bear. Geez, why can't things be easier? Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it. Elmo //////////////////////////////////// did you just fart? Hah hahahahhahhaha cj /////////////////////// How did you know? BBQ pork and cole slaw for dinner. (brrrrrrtttt) Elmo
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JV - 20 Jun 2005 20:34 GMT Every day is a spaced day CJ. Of course I am spacing it hasn't stopped since tx. Now than I am running on a little more than half a tank last week. I had to increase my Armour Thyroid. 1 month on Armour and my Free T4 took a dive down to 1.01 before Armour pills it was 1.30 range is .80-1.80 Want to be 1.50+ish or more. By George!!!!!! I do believe I found yet another lab error says myXendo just like when it was .28 LOLOLOLOL Glad she is gone. Burden of proof of a failing thyroid continuing to go down hill even on thyroid hormones, thank my lucky stars this time that Armour was there to pick me up on my way down. :) Free T3 used to be 170 a year ago its 119 now, I have a hell of a way to go to get back up there. grrrrr but I am now sure about my lab errors NOT being lab errors at all. The only Lab Error was the Endo in error. Haven't felt any earth quakes and there was one yesterday in Eureka calif. thats 5 this week. I imagine Mt.St Helen will be next. Cheers Juanita
¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ From: not@joshuatree.nemor (Cactus Jammies) spaced today, eh? you feel that earthquake out in the Pacific off the coast of Cresent City or what have ya? ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha trust me ha ha ha cactus jammies not plannin on gettin hit by a fallin bear nowhere. /////// Yeah, I worry about falling bears all the time. That tree falling on my house this past week has got me thinking that perhaps I should cut down ALL the trees in the yard. At least I wouldn't have to worry about getting crushed by a falling black bear. Geez, why can't things be easier? Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it. Elmo //////////////////////////////////// did you just fart? H ah aahahhahhaha cj
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