Wow did I have anxiety waiting for his appointment. As you know I was
diagnosed with geno type 1b. I love my Doctor. He was such a straight
shooter - and I didn't cry. He was impressed with the research that I have
done. We had a few amusing moments. I asked about liver transplants since
I was in the transplant unit of the hospital. My mother is the same blood
type as I am and he said I would kill her to take the majority of her
liver! He then laughed and said that liver transplants were for people who
were dying and I am the poster child of health from what he can see. He
stated that I didnt have any symptons of HEP C. My alt was 60 and AST 66.
Norms can go to 42ish. He is hoping that I don't have too much damage to my
liver. He has scheduled me for a biopsy in July and I can start treatment
in August - 48 weeks. He stated I could probably work during the whole
treatment that Friday nights are good for treatment and I should be fine by
Monday. He has clients who have climbed Mt. Kilamajaro (sp) and ran
marathons on the treatment plan.
He also said there are 2 treatments by differnet companies. The cost is
$25,000 for 48 weeks of treatment but well worth it in my opinion. The one
treatment (older one is peginterferon afla 2a) and the newest one is peg
something or other. What is the opinion of you savvy people out there. I
get a choice and I want to make the best one.
Where would I be without you guys - thanks so much for easing my fears and
making me more knowledgeable.
Mags
ps he hinted that my wine drinking days will be curtailed even if I clear -
bummer
Gordo Mondragon - 01 Jun 2005 00:46 GMT
[...] He stated I could probably work during the whole
> treatment that Friday nights are good for treatment and I should be fine by
> Monday. He has clients who have climbed Mt. Kilamajaro (sp) and ran
> marathons on the treatment plan.
I think that doctors say that to keep people from getting worried, and
also because after a point there's just no point in complaining to them
about how you feel.
Hopefully you won't have bad side effects but for some of us that wasn't
the case. If I was you I'd make sure that you had everthing covered
just in case you couldn't work, or needed help.
> He also said there are 2 treatments by differnet companies. The cost is
> $25,000 for 48 weeks of treatment but well worth it in my opinion. The one
> treatment (older one is peginterferon afla 2a) and the newest one is peg
> something or other. What is the opinion of you savvy people out there. I
> get a choice and I want to make the best one.
PegIntron is 2b; Pegasys is 2a.
From my reading, it looks like the PegIntron might have a somewhat
better outcome for people who weigh more because the dosing is
weight-based. The Pegasys is a standard dose for everyone.
It also appears that people have more side-effects from the PegIntron.
I didn't have a choice, and I'm glad I didn't have to make one :)
> ps he hinted that my wine drinking days will be curtailed even if I clear -
> bummer
If you don't have liver damage and you clear the virus I can't think of
any reason why you couldn't have alcohol.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Jun 2005 01:28 GMT
I like Pegasys over PegIntron. Pegasys (Roche) was part of the regimen
that got me an SVR on my 3rd attempt after using Intron, then PegIntron
(both Scherring-Plough products). Pegasys is said to have a couple of
percentage point advantage on PegIntron as far as SVR is concerned.
Elmo
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
JV - 01 Jun 2005 02:50 GMT
I did pegintron was a 1a been rid of it since dec 01. Pegasys is the
other one used now days also. Since there are more sides with Pegintron,
Pegasys might be the better option. Many people were having more thyroid
problems on pegintron in the clinical trial I joined, compared to less
thyroid problems of the trial before mine which was Pegasys.
good luck Juanita
Waterspider - 01 Jun 2005 03:08 GMT
Top posted, comments interspersed:
Hi Mags,
Glad to hear your appointment went well; you sound a lot more relaxed.
> Wow did I have anxiety waiting for his appointment. As you know I was
> diagnosed with geno type 1b. I love my Doctor. He was such a straight
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> blood type as I am and he said I would kill her to take the majority of
> her liver!
LOL!
He then laughed and said that liver transplants were for people who
> were dying and I am the poster child of health from what he can see.
Biopsy is the only accurate of liver damage.
> He stated that I didnt have any symptons of HEP C.
Most people don't
> My alt was 60 and AST 66. Norms can go to 42ish. He is hoping that I
> don't have too much damage to my liver. He has scheduled me for a biopsy
> in July and I can start treatment in August - 48 weeks. He stated I could
> probably work during the whole treatment
Oh, man, is he ever optimistic!!! Some people manage to do it, but I haven't
found even one who said it was easy.
> that Friday nights are good for treatment and I should be fine by Monday.
Just in case, prepare for having to take off some extra time. Just in case.
> He has clients who have climbed Mt. Kilamajaro (sp) and ran marathons on
> the treatment plan.
My doc told me similar stories, yeah, "some flu-like symptoms" and all that
crap. I would have loved to jab a needleful of interferon into his flabby
a.s and say, "Yeah, and how are you feeling *now* with those flu-like
symptoms, eh?" <g>
Seriously, some people have very mild side-effects, but they are rare. My
strategy was to expect the worst and anything less than that was a bonus.
> He also said there are 2 treatments by differnet companies. The cost is
> $25,000 for 48 weeks of treatment but well worth it in my opinion. The
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> Where would I be without you guys - thanks so much for easing my fears and
> making me more knowledgeable.
Thank yourself, Mags. The fact that you gained some knowledge, did your own
research, is exactly why your fears were eased. Know your enemy. Knowledge
is power. sh.t, it took me months before I could even say out loud,
"hepatitis C" because it scared me so much. But, the more I said it the
braver I became.
> ps he hinted that my wine drinking days will be curtailed even if I
> clear - bummer
If you clear, and odds are that you will, and if you have minimal or no
liver damage, reasonable consumption of good wine should not be a problem.
Good luck, keep up the good work!
Waterspider
p.s. I completed the alpha 2a about two years ago and am all clear.
Unfortunately I had hep C about 20 years before diagnosis and loved to drink
wine, lots of wine, so I have cirrhosis. No biggie, I look after myself now,
and even allow myself a glass or two of fine wine on very special occasions
once or twice a year.
You'll do fine. Keep us posted and keep asking questions.
Thomas Wagner - 01 Jun 2005 15:36 GMT
>He has scheduled me for a biopsy in July and I can start treatment
>in August - 48 weeks. He stated I could probably work during the whole
>treatment that Friday nights are good for treatment and I should be fine by
>Monday. He has clients who have climbed Mt. Kilamajaro (sp) and ran
>marathons on the treatment plan.
It's nice of your doc to try to build you up, but whether lying is a
good strategy... Someone who'd run a marathon or climb mountains during
treatment would be a complete and utter fool, and would probably fail to
be cured (extreme sports are damaging to the liver). It is very possible
that your sides will be mild, and that you can work through treatment.
But it's a good idea to also prepare for the possibility that things may
not go that smoothly, that you may need additional medication such as an
anti-depressant to combat the very common "riba-rage" and treatment
fatigue, or Procrit and/or Neupogen to boost your white and red blood
cells (rather than dose reduction) when tx brings them dangerously low.
Optimism is great, and maintaining a positive attitude during tx is
extremely important, but realism is a virtue, too.
>He also said there are 2 treatments by differnet companies. The cost is
>$25,000 for 48 weeks of treatment but well worth it in my opinion. The one
>treatment (older one is peginterferon afla 2a) and the newest one is peg
>something or other. What is the opinion of you savvy people out there. I
>get a choice and I want to make the best one.
There's no clear picture yet. A number of studies had relatively similar
results, with a slight advantage for Peg-Intron (alfa-2b) over Pegasys
(alfa-2a) on the SVR side, and a slight advantage of Pegasys on the side
effects side. The big study comparing the two isn't complete, but you
can't really go wrong with either of them.
>ps he hinted that my wine drinking days will be curtailed even if I clear -
>bummer
That seems overly cautious. If you don't have significant damage, and
you do achieve SVR, your liver likely will be as good as new. With
significant damage (you'll know after your biopsy) the picture may be
different.
Thomas

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