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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / May 2005Katie
Hi guys, I need some input to suggest for my Katie. She is so extremely tired all of the time. She's a real trooper and keeps plugging on but the fatigue is there and very real. Any suggestions on what she can do to lessen it would be appreciated. Mom I found that consuming as little animal fat as possible in conjunction with taking Milk Thistle helped reduce the fatigue considerably. I also recommend substituting soy milk for animal milk whenever possible. Alias > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mom Or is she on treatment? If so, scratch the milk thistle advice. Alias >I found that consuming as little animal fat as possible in conjunction with >taking Milk Thistle helped reduce the fatigue considerably. I also [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Mom >I found that consuming as little animal fat as possible in conjunction with >taking Milk Thistle helped reduce the fatigue considerably. I also >recommend substituting soy milk for animal milk whenever possible. > > Alias Thanks Cody. I will relay this to her. Mom >> Hi guys, >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Mom does she have things to do that get her out of the house, or constantly threaten to do so? I know that even anticipating a period in public, trying to cope in bank line ups and the like, can be extremely distressing before you set out. So it is nice to not have to consider mustering some kind of spunk to get out on the street, or else dread it, just the same. Be sure she gets her fruit and carbs in the mornings. And hang on, keep swimming. She is young, she should be able to handle this stuff and skateboard across Kansas, too! 8-) Cactus Jammies > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mom > does she have things to do that get her out of the house, or constantly > threaten to do so? I know that even anticipating a period in public, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cactus Jammies Hi CJ, She is very active, She works 40 hours a week and goes to AA meetings 5 nights a week. She sponsors 2 girls and meets with them on a regular basis. Like I said she is a real trooper but she is so tired all of the time. I'll suggest she look at her diet. Mom >> Hi guys, >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Mom Perhaps some depression going on????  SignatureRuss Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > > does she have things to do that get her out of the house, or constantly > > threaten to do so? I know that even anticipating a period in public, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >> > >> Mom Hi Russ, I really don't think that is it. She seems very happy but you never know................. Some thing to think about. Thanks. Mom > Perhaps some depression going on???? > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> >> >> Mom > Hi guys, > > I need some input to suggest for my Katie. She is so extremely tired all of > the time. She's a real trooper and keeps plugging on but the fatigue is > there and very real. Any suggestions on what she can do to lessen it would > be appreciated. Is she on treatment, or chronic Hep C? G >> Hi guys, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > G Hi Gordo, She is not on treatment yet. Chronis Hep-C at this point. Mom > "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ga_mondragon-79A04B.21530005052005@nyctyp01-ge0.rdc-nyc.rr.com... > >> Hi guys, > >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mom I'm sorry to hear that mom. Yogic breathing and movement help balance your energy. Propably some of the lying down poses and Twists, they are helpful for cleansing the liver. www.yogajournal.com there are also poses to relive fatigue also relax before bed. Peace, MaryANn "Mom" <mom@nospamplease.net> <L5OdnVUjl7riMuffRVn-uw@adelphia.com> : >Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Mom hi mom, acupuncture did a big deal for me, took away the pain in my lower back and shoulders and gave me my energy back. i have to go weekly though, if i miss a session for a week the fatigue comes back. i am going to start a chi kong (sp?) course as well, my acupuncturist suggested me to do that. it's a bit like tai chi and yoga. i also take milky thistle daily. since everyone is different i don't know if it would help her. lots of hugs to you and katie, i am pleased to hear she became stronger than her addiction. way to go katie!!!!!!!!! ((((((((((((((mom)))))))))))))))))) anja > Hi guys, > I need some input to suggest for my Katie. She is so extremely tired all > of the time. She's a real trooper and keeps plugging on but the fatigue is > there and very real. Any suggestions on what she can do to lessen it would > be appreciated. > Mom Hi Mom, Has she seen her doc about the fatigue? Is her fatigue from her busy schedule? Is she getting lots of sleep? Someone else suggested she look at her diet; this is a good place to start. Is her diet balanced? Lots of fresh fruit and veggies? Wouldn't hurt to cut out the red meat. Sugar gives a quick boost of energy but results in tiredness later on. Ditto caffiene. Warn her to stay away from commercial "energy" products that are just a quick sugar jolt. Spirulina, although high in iron, is a bit of an energy booster. Megavitamin dosing is something else that can be dangerous. If the fatigue is from her hep C, maybe it's time for her to have a serious rethink about treatment. All the best to Katie, and to you too. Spidey > > Hi guys, > > I need some input to suggest for my Katie. She is so extremely tired all [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > schedule? Is she getting lots of sleep? Someone else suggested she look at > her diet; this is a good place to start. It might not be applicable but when I'm running at full throttle I find I am MUCH better off eating small amounts of food all day long instead of three larger meals. Continuous energy and less after-meal tiredness. G > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mom Like Alias said, a low-fat diet can really help. Tell her to try the Weight Watcher's 25-point diet to help keep track of it at first. It's easy. A regular vitamin-mineral supplement with no iron. I take the Wal-Mart equivalent to Centrum Silver. Make it clear to friends, co-workers, and whoever else that her energy is limited due to the HCV. Take a stand and stick to it. People will quickly respect her requests not to give her too much to do. One of my favorite responses is, "I'll do my best, but I'm really running out of gas." They know I mean it. Conversely, I also tell them when I'm feeling really good and try to do a bit extra at those times. Since Katie doesn't seem to be one to shirk her responsibilities, I think it might be time to gently let others know she does have limitations. >> Hi guys, >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > seem to be one to shirk her responsibilities, I think it might be time to > gently let others know she does have limitations. Thank you all for your replies. I am forwarding them to her right now. They all were wonderful and really good ideas to help her combat this fatigue. As far as her starting treatment I know she is considering it and weighing it heavily. She knows her limitaions and what she can handle and I am sure she won't do it until she feels she is 100% ready emotionally. A few of her friends are going through it right now so she has the advantage of seeing first hand the side effects. Her boyfriends mother is dying of sinus cancer. She is younger than I am and found out last week it is spreading. Katie realizes right now her starting treatment could be more than her boyfriend can deal with and she will need his support. So, until she makes the ultimate decision to go through with this your suggestions will help lessen her exhaustion. WS, to your question does she get enough sleep? Yes, she sleeps a full night every night and generally takes a nap everyday. She has to. Her boyfriend is great. Even though he doesn't have Hep-C he takes her nap with her everyday. She does however keep a very busy schedule. Thank you all again and hugs back to you Anja. You always seem to pop in when I need you! You are all great. Mom On Sat, 7 May 2005 02:51:57 -0400, "Mom" <mom@nospamplease.net>, in message ID <VrKdnbORMssS-OHfRVn-qA@adelphia.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >Thank you all for your replies. I am forwarding them to her right now. They >all were wonderful and really good ideas to help her combat this fatigue. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >ultimate decision to go through with this your suggestions will help lessen >her exhaustion. From what I've seen of people doing tx, it's probably a good idea for her to be drug free for at least a couple of years before doing it. This doesn't apply if it's medically urgent that she does tx of course. Some people do tx while still using of course. No problem with that either IMO as long as they've been educated about not sharing equipment to avoid re-infection. SignaturePaul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email > On Sat, 7 May 2005 02:51:57 -0400, "Mom" <mom@nospamplease.net>, in > message ID <VrKdnbORMssS-OHfRVn-qA@adelphia.com>, in the newsgroup [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > either IMO as long as they've been educated about not sharing > equipment to avoid re-infection. Thanks Paul, That is something that scares me a bit too. She has only been clean for a little less than a year but I have full confidence that Katie will not do treatment until she feels 100% ready. When Katie is clean and sober she has a very good head on her shoulders. She must take after her old man. Ha! Mom > Use the reply by email facility in your > newsreader to send email On Sat, 7 May 2005 03:22:04 -0400, "Mom" <mom@nospamplease.net>, in message ID <ttadnXgvd_oD8eHfRVn-rw@adelphia.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >That is something that scares me a bit too. She has only been clean for a >little less than a year but I have full confidence that Katie will not do >treatment until she feels 100% ready. When Katie is clean and sober she has >a very good head on her shoulders. She must take after her old man. Ha! Maybe her mother has got something to do with that too. :-) SignaturePaul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mom Hello I had a very long wait between being diagnosed and actually atarting tratment, about 6 years. Early on I had really bad fatigue problems, to the extent that I had to stop driving. I made significant lifestyle changes, stopped smoking, drinking, got my diet in order and started a good exercise program. To get over the initial hump of the fatigue I visited a TCM practitioner, within three days of taking herbs I found that my energy levels had lifted. The TCM lifted my energy enough to enebale me to make the lifestyle changes. I stuck with herbs for a couple of months but eventually the lifestyle became self sustaining. If you are thinking about trying Traditional Chinese Medicine then make sure you find a pucka practitioner. Jonathan >> Hi guys, >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jonathan Thanks Jonathon, I'll pass this on. I agree quitting smoking would help tremendously. One thing at at time though. I'm just happy right now that she managed to quit the other thing. Thank God she doesn't drink. Hates the stuff. Mom |
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