Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / April 2005
Writers/Artists lose creativity on Tx?
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Harald Sundt - 01 Apr 2005 05:39 GMT I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor (which suits me..it works)
At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin.
Tomorrow is promised no one.
Hal
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Apr 2005 14:10 GMT Hal, you only need to take the meds for 12 weeks before you'll have a pretty good indication whether the stuff is going to work for you. At that point, you can make the decision as to whether it's smart to continue or not. Oddly enough, I felt even more creative when I was taking combo drugs. Maybe it's because I had such bizarre thoughts.
:-) Elmo ////////////
I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor (which suits me..it works) At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin. Tomorrow is promised no one. Hal ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Apr 2005 14:12 GMT Tomorrow is for YOU, Hal! Keep up the good fight!!! Elmo /////// Tomorrow is promised no one. Hal
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Bri Kid - 08 Apr 2005 06:31 GMT I agree completely. I'm a novice guitar player and used to write a lot. These days I just don't have the love for these things that used to make me feel so alive. I used to deny a diagnosis of MDD and Anxiety disorder. I said to the psyche "Of course I'm bummed out, I have a disease that has proven to be incurable (for me), liver failure almost killed me several times and I have maybe a week each month that I feel OK. It's normal to be depressed. I don't deny it anymore. I know it's true, but I go to bed at night proud that I never surrendered and never will. With a little help from your friends Hal. brian
pajaritaflora - 01 Apr 2005 14:38 GMT > I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative > impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Hey Hal I felt the same as you for the first few weeks. It was very frustrating. I have solved my problem by choosing different media. I'm writing music on computer software (just sit in my chair and obsess) I have also been hand quilting small peices on a 16 inch hoop that sits on my lap. Normally I would be running here and there gathering and creating (painting and sewing)...no energy or desire for that. I have found medium that I can do and the flow is good. hmmm how can I explain better?.....The focus seems to be very pointed and deep within myself. I like it. Good luck finding yours:) Mary Ann
burningdaylight - 02 Apr 2005 03:30 GMT Being tired from tx and preoccupied with this dragon will make anyone say "What the f.ck!" Why do today what you can put off till tomorrow! For me, nothing that needs to get done seems important any more. I am going to leave the dishes in the sink until they mold. Sue
Gordo Mondragon - 02 Apr 2005 05:50 GMT In article <29481839fbf81d0da112974902ab4e21@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com>,
> Being tired from tx and preoccupied with this dragon will make anyone say > "What the f.ck!" > Why do today what you can put off till tomorrow! > For me, nothing that needs to get done seems important any more. > I am going to leave the dishes in the sink until they mold. That's what I loved about ice cream - I could just rinse off a dirty spoon and eat it out of the carton.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 02 Apr 2005 06:15 GMT Re: Writers/Artists lose creativity on Tx? Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2005, 9:30pm (CST+1) From: burningdaylight@private.com (burningdaylight) Being tired from tx and preoccupied with this dragon will make anyone say "What the f.ck!" Why do today what you can put off till tomorrow! For me, nothing that needs to get done seems important any more. I am going to leave the dishes in the sink until they mold. Sue //////////// ahahahahahah!!! I know exactly how you feel, Sue. It's your subconscious finally agreeing and/or submitting to the will of your body. Go with the flow and have a bowl of ice cream Elmo
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Gordo Mondragon - 02 Apr 2005 05:49 GMT > I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative > impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor > (which suits me..it works) It didn't at first - I even found that spending hours with Photoshop was fun - but then it was just all work and no joy so I stopped.
> At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's > regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin. It sucks to try to figure it out, but what's the trade-off? One year for how many more years?
Gordo
Russ - 02 Apr 2005 08:27 GMT On tx sure, I wasn't as much into music and such, but it all came back. Even though I relapsed quite a few of us do get the SVR. Even with type1a or b , and if you respond (vl free at week12) and take all your meds, the odds are at least 80%. It's 50/50 out the gate, but you have to take in the percentage of people who stop treatment. It was 35% dropout rate at the clinic where I did my treatment. Slug it out and you have a good shot at it.
Even though I relapsed, I learned something of myself and a lot about patience in 48 weeks.....
 Signature Russ
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> I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative > impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- sharon - 03 Apr 2005 13:10 GMT Hal, I don't know you either, but can relate to losing joy. The worst for me was losing the gooooood taste of ice cream. lol Food kind of took on the taste of cardboard, cooked different ways. Funny, I only lost about 20 pounds tho.. SIGH Sharon
Robert Tierney - 07 Apr 2005 15:33 GMT Hey Howard, don't have dates on my reader so I'm hoping this is current. I been around a long time, helped Elmo with the guitar while we were on the combo. For me the first 2 months found me 4 tracking everyday, for as long and as much as I could, I play just about any instrument, and it passed the time, Iwas able to perform well into the 3rd mont. Then it all halted. Couldn't stan, couldnt remeber, couldn't listen. Didn't want nuthin butthe tv on. It took a year after treatment and a great balance of pharmacuticals to get me back on stage, but man, I came back great. The joy music brought back into my life after treatment failed was a gift. "Shoulda, coulda's"....I was well on my way of making music an actual job, maybe even full time, but I got cut off at a bad time in life......Just let things flow and you will have a chance, if you lose it, to get it back, If you are a writer, ya might wanna go the Bukowski or Thompson route, and artist, try oils instead of waters, change the palate.
Bobby
>I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative >impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- Cactus Jammies - 07 Apr 2005 18:55 GMT Hi Bobby, Except for huge gaps in my ability to get anything done that takes more that twenty minutes, music is still the only outlet for me that has the purity and the focus to make me feel like my time is being spent doing anything else besides enduring the tx effects. Politics was my big escapade for the last thirty years while not at my job of work, being a party ward boss so to speak, only without the connections, just the credentials. Thank goodness that is over in my life. Tx taught me to slow down my reasoning and to try to not continuing to score rhetorical points like I have been doing since the sixties.
On the music front, building three slimline telecasters, a rickenbacker bass clone, an acoustic lap steel and a few Jumbo 185s are still on the list, but thank goodness the post office and customs eats up a lot of time getting all the parts so I am not pressed into doing things on demand right now. My taste in music spans everything, and I concentrate on the way the music resolves itself inside the groove of the peice. I have also learned how to finger pick properly in the past six months since I started tx, and I am now playing my electric lap steel in a brand new tuning, and I have learned how to play a Rickenbacker 12 string to some effect, as well. But it took lots of concentration and lots of marahoochie to evolve this behaviour into a chain of events that cause things to happen. If you know what I mean. (I can't say I stuck to any plan except a CD course on musicology)
My fave guitar is still my '70 Les Paul Deluxe. And one other thing about this fudge brain stuff in tx. I despise any wire with more than one end. The amps, the mixing board, the microphones, the stomp pedal power sources, all that stuff just sticks together like a big hairball sometimes, in which cases I usually get blitzed and just listen for a while. Wires. Man'n undoing. Just look at VCR controls. We were not meant to know that stuff. Not that I would deny anyone the ability to try and convince me we are.
8-)
Nice hearing about your experience, hope you are staying well
Cactus Jammies
> Hey Howard, don't have dates on my reader so I'm hoping this is current. I > been around a long time, helped Elmo with the guitar while we were on the [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >> =---- elmoemerson@webtv.net - 08 Apr 2005 04:33 GMT Good to see you, Bobby! How's your friend doing? I gave a friend that pretty blue Oscar Schmidt I got from JC Penney way back when and bought a cheap Martin. It's got that 'high and lonesome' sound and is easy to play. Blue grass season is coming, I'm planning to hang out in Eureka Springs for awhile this summer. Elmo ///////// Hey Howard, don't have dates on my reader so I'm hoping this is current. I been around a long time, helped Elmo with the guitar while we were on the combo. For me the first 2 months found me 4 tracking everyday, for as long and as much as I could, I play just about any instrument, and it passed the time, Iwas able to perform well into the 3rd mont. Then it all halted. Couldn't stan, couldnt remeber, couldn't listen. Didn't want nuthin butthe tv on. It took a year after treatment and a great balance of pharmacuticals to get me back on stage, but man, I came back great. The joy music brought back into my life after treatment failed was a gift. "Shoulda, coulda's"....I was well on my way of making music an actual job, maybe even full time, but I got cut off at a bad time in life......Just let things flow and you will have a chance, if you lose it, to get it back, If you are a writer, ya might wanna go the Bukowski or Thompson route, and artist, try oils instead of waters, change the palate. Bobby "Harald Sundt" <h_sundt@efn.org> wrote in message news:1112330331_19084@news-east.n... I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor (which suits me..it works) At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin. Tomorrow is promised no one. Hal ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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