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Writers/Artists lose creativity on Tx?

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Harald Sundt - 01 Apr 2005 05:39 GMT
I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative
impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor
(which suits me..it works)

At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's
regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin.

Tomorrow is promised no one.

Hal
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Apr 2005 14:10 GMT
Hal, you only need to take the meds for 12 weeks before you'll have a
pretty good indication whether the stuff is going to work for you.  At
that point, you can make the decision as to whether it's smart to
continue or not.  Oddly enough, I felt even more creative when I was
taking combo drugs.  Maybe it's because I had such bizarre thoughts.
:-)
Elmo
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I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative
impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor
(which suits me..it works)
At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's
regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin.
Tomorrow is promised no one.
Hal
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 01 Apr 2005 14:12 GMT
Tomorrow is for YOU, Hal!  Keep up the good fight!!!
Elmo
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Bri Kid - 08 Apr 2005 06:31 GMT
I agree completely. I'm a novice guitar player and used to write a lot.
These days I just don't have the love for these things  that used to
make me feel so alive. I used to deny a diagnosis of MDD and Anxiety
disorder. I said to the psyche "Of course I'm bummed out, I have a
disease that has proven to be incurable (for me), liver failure almost
killed me several times and I have maybe a week each month that I feel
OK. It's normal to be depressed. I don't deny it anymore. I know it's
true, but I go to bed at night proud that I never surrendered and never
will. With a little help from your friends Hal. brian
pajaritaflora - 01 Apr 2005 14:38 GMT
> I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative
> impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor
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Hey Hal
I felt the same as you for the first few weeks. It was very
frustrating. I have solved my problem by choosing different media. I'm
writing music on computer software (just sit in my chair and obsess) I
have also been hand quilting small peices on a 16 inch hoop that sits
on my lap. Normally I would be running here and there gathering and
creating (painting and sewing)...no energy or desire for that. I have
found medium that I can do and the flow is good. hmmm how can I explain
better?.....The focus seems to be very pointed and deep within myself.
I like it.
Good luck finding yours:)
Mary Ann
burningdaylight - 02 Apr 2005 03:30 GMT
Being tired from tx and preoccupied with this dragon will make anyone say
"What the f.ck!"
Why do today what you can put off till tomorrow!
For me, nothing that needs to get done seems important any more.
I am going to leave the dishes in the sink until they mold.
Sue
Gordo Mondragon - 02 Apr 2005 05:50 GMT
In article
<29481839fbf81d0da112974902ab4e21@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com>,

> Being tired from tx and preoccupied with this dragon will make anyone say
> "What the f.ck!"
> Why do today what you can put off till tomorrow!
> For me, nothing that needs to get done seems important any more.
> I am going to leave the dishes in the sink until they mold.

That's what I loved about ice cream - I could just rinse off a dirty
spoon and eat it out of the carton.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 02 Apr 2005 06:15 GMT

Re: Writers/Artists lose creativity on Tx?  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2005, 9:30pm (CST+1)
From: burningdaylight@private.com (burningdaylight)
Being tired from tx and preoccupied with this dragon will make anyone
say "What the f.ck!"
Why do today what you can put off till tomorrow! For me, nothing that
needs to get done seems important any more. I am going to leave the
dishes in the sink until they mold. Sue
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ahahahahahah!!!  I know exactly how you feel, Sue.  It's your
subconscious finally agreeing and/or submitting to the will of your
body.  Go with the flow and have a bowl of ice cream
Elmo

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Gordo Mondragon - 02 Apr 2005 05:49 GMT
> I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative
> impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor
> (which suits me..it works)

It didn't at first - I even found that spending hours with Photoshop was
fun - but then it was just all work and no joy so I stopped.

> At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's
> regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin.

It sucks to try to figure it out, but what's the trade-off?  One year
for how many more years?

Gordo
Russ - 02 Apr 2005 08:27 GMT
On tx sure, I wasn't as much into music and such, but it all came back. Even
though I relapsed quite a few of us do get the SVR. Even with type1a or b ,
and if you respond (vl free at week12) and take all your meds, the odds are
at least 80%. It's 50/50 out the gate, but you have to take in  the
percentage of people who stop treatment. It was 35% dropout rate at the
clinic where I did my treatment. Slug it out and you have a good shot at it.

Even though I relapsed, I learned something of myself  and a lot about
patience in 48 weeks.....

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Russ

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sharon - 03 Apr 2005 13:10 GMT
Hal, I don't know you either, but can relate to losing joy.  The worst
for me was losing the gooooood taste of ice cream.  lol  Food kind of
took on the taste of cardboard, cooked different ways.  Funny, I only
lost about 20 pounds tho.. SIGH  Sharon
Robert  Tierney - 07 Apr 2005 15:33 GMT
Hey Howard, don't have dates on my reader so I'm hoping this is current. I
been around a long time, helped Elmo with the guitar while we were on the
combo. For me the first 2 months found me 4 tracking everyday, for as long
and as much as I could, I play just about any instrument, and it passed the
time, Iwas able to perform well into the 3rd mont. Then it all halted.
Couldn't stan, couldnt remeber, couldn't listen. Didn't want nuthin butthe
tv on. It took a year after treatment and a great balance of pharmacuticals
to get me back on stage, but man, I came back great. The joy music brought
back into my life after treatment failed was a gift. "Shoulda,
coulda's"....I was well on my way of making music an actual job, maybe even
full time, but I got cut off at a bad time in life......Just let things flow
and you will have a chance, if you lose it, to get it back, If you are a
writer, ya might wanna go the Bukowski or Thompson route, and artist, try
oils instead of waters, change the palate.

Bobby

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>impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor
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Cactus Jammies - 07 Apr 2005 18:55 GMT
Hi Bobby,
 Except for huge gaps in my ability to get anything done that takes more
that twenty minutes, music is still the only outlet for me that has the
purity and the focus to make me feel like my time is being spent doing
anything else besides enduring the tx effects.  Politics was my big escapade
for the last thirty years while not at my job of work, being a party ward
boss so to speak, only without the connections, just the credentials.  Thank
goodness that is over in my life.  Tx taught me to slow down my reasoning
and to try to not continuing to score rhetorical points like I have been
doing since the sixties.

On the music front, building three slimline telecasters, a rickenbacker
bass clone, an acoustic lap steel and a few Jumbo 185s are still on the
list, but thank goodness the post office and customs eats up a lot of time
getting all the parts so I am not pressed into doing things on demand right
now.  My taste in music spans everything, and I concentrate on the way the
music resolves itself inside the groove of the peice.  I have also learned
how to finger pick properly in the past six months since I started tx, and I
am now playing my electric lap steel in a brand new tuning, and I have
learned how to play a Rickenbacker 12 string to some effect, as well.  But
it took lots of concentration and lots of marahoochie to evolve this
behaviour into a chain of events that cause things to happen.  If you know
what I mean.  (I can't say I stuck to any plan except a CD course on
musicology)

My fave guitar is still my '70 Les Paul Deluxe.  And one other thing about
this fudge brain stuff in tx.  I despise any wire with more than one end.
The amps, the mixing board, the microphones, the stomp pedal power sources,
all that stuff just sticks together like a big hairball sometimes, in which
cases I usually get blitzed and just listen for a while.  Wires.  Man'n
undoing.  Just look at VCR controls.  We were not meant to know that stuff.
Not that I would deny anyone the ability to try and convince me we are.

8-)

Nice hearing about your experience,  hope you are staying well

Cactus Jammies

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> been around a long time, helped Elmo with the guitar while we were on the
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 08 Apr 2005 04:33 GMT
Good to see you, Bobby!  How's your friend doing?  I gave a friend that
pretty blue Oscar Schmidt I got from JC Penney way back when and bought
a cheap Martin.  It's got that 'high and lonesome' sound and is easy to
play.  Blue grass season is coming, I'm planning to hang out in Eureka
Springs for awhile this summer.  
Elmo
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Hey Howard, don't have dates on my reader so I'm hoping this is current.
I been around a long time, helped Elmo with the guitar while we were on
the combo. For me the first 2 months found me 4 tracking everyday, for
as long and as much as I could, I play just about any instrument, and it
passed the time, Iwas able to perform well into the 3rd mont. Then it
all halted. Couldn't stan, couldnt remeber, couldn't listen. Didn't want
nuthin butthe tv on. It took a year after treatment and a great balance
of pharmacuticals to get me back on stage, but man, I came back great.
The joy music brought back into my life after treatment failed was a
gift. "Shoulda, coulda's"....I was well on my way of making music an
actual job, maybe even full time, but I got cut off at a bad time in
life......Just let things flow and you will have a chance, if you lose
it, to get it back, If you are a writer, ya might wanna go the Bukowski
or Thompson route, and artist, try oils instead of waters, change the
palate.
Bobby
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I find my ability to desire and appreciate art or music and my creative
impulse in flatlined. It doesn't seen to be my anti-depressant, Effexor
(which suits me..it works)
At 54 I really don't like thinking of loosing a year to the relapser's
regimine of daily Interge/Ribavirin.
Tomorrow is promised no one.
Hal
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