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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 05 Jan 2005 22:17 GMT
The American squirt gunners are thrashing the Canadian opposition at
many positions along the border.  Seems the Canadian leadership opted
for maple syrup to fill their guns which has resulted in malfunction in
nearly 100% of the Canadian weapons.  The Canadian fighters appear dazed
and confused, defiantly yelling something about "BC Bud" as the American
Super Soakers bear down on them in a deadly crossfire of cherry and lime
flavored Kool-Aids.  
A.E. Newman (war correspondent)
Cactus Jammies - 05 Jan 2005 23:14 GMT
True North News Report
Dateline International Bridge Windsor Ontario
Despite the less than accurate information that corporate America tried to
use to discredit their adversaries (as seen below), the Yanqui red and green
coloured sweet water coalition faced brutal maple syrup action at the bridge
early this morning.  In a entrapping move meant to draw out the US
Squirties, the outnumbered and out-soaker equipped Canucks oozed
semi-congealed maple syrup fudge on the deck of bridge, secretly flown in
the night before by the Red Leaf Squadron 445 RCAF, out of Bagotville,
Quebec, in CF 18A's disguised as Canada Geese looking for a patch of peace.
The flood move, first learned in a Hockey rink in Timmins, effectively
immobilized the rash invaders.

The jubilant Canadian sub-lieutenant who led the defiant stand off by the
True North forces at the bridge wondered why the fire-power crazed yanks
didn't go all out and use blueberry Kool-Aid, the true WMD of the General
Foods arsenal.  "They would have had us snookered for sure, right behind the
eight ball, know what I mean, eh?" and "The guys would have rubbed it in
their hair and lain about like a bunch of BC Budders." commented Sub-Lt.
Jammies, a penal battalion regular.  He went on to mumble:  "Also this here
bridge might be too close to Toronto to be using blue, which is the name of
a favourite and revered beverage of my guys' youths...which would have shut
us down for sure."

The ceremonial Colonel-In-Chief of the Read Leafs, Group Captain Waterspider
is believed to be stuck in traffic west of Hamilton.  The squaddies
did finally break out the bud and invited the demoralized and depressed
watersoakers over for a toke and a sweet snack of victory!  Fudge takes
about two hours to congeal properly commented Lt. Jammies.  A tactical
secret that we relied on heavily this morning.

From the real front, the True North
continuing strong and free!

> The American squirt gunners are thrashing the Canadian opposition at
> many positions along the border.  Seems the Canadian leadership opted
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> flavored Kool-Aids.
> A.E. Newman (war correspondent)
Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro - 06 Jan 2005 12:03 GMT
Parsing is so much fun:

>... Seems the Canadian leadership opted for maple syrup to fill their *pant*s which has resulted in malfunction in
>nearly 100% of the Canadian weapons.  ...

Now why one earth would anybody, even Canucks, want to fill their
pants with maple syrup!!!!???!!!!

/ Nevermind.
// Not sure I really want an answer to that.  There *ARE* some things
that should remain a mystery.
Cactus Jammies - 06 Jan 2005 15:20 GMT
xfish you're practicing information control.  and you're believeing whatever
that goat-roper tosses out.  May be good for office stripes but not action
stripes.  Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously.

Cactus Jammies

> Parsing is so much fun:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> // Not sure I really want an answer to that.  There *ARE* some things
> that should remain a mystery.
Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro - 06 Jan 2005 17:44 GMT
>xfish you're practicing information control.  and you're believeing whatever
>that goat-roper tosses out.  May be good for office stripes but not action
>stripes.  Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously.

Alright then!  If that's the case, I'll go ahead and ask:  Why do you
fill your pants with maple syrup?  And does it have anything to do
with sheep?
Cactus Jammies - 06 Jan 2005 17:53 GMT
Don't take me as an authourity on the issue, but I think that in many cases,
the squaddies only *appear* to have maple syrup in their drawers.  Besides
there was the secret element of surprise that nobody on the Kool Aid gang
suspected was the plan all along.  The goose-sh.t connection that turned it
all into fudge on the bridge, trapped your soaker team in their sneaks and
made the  to your instigator hide his scrawny bones away in the shame of
defeat and frustration.   You know of whom I speak, the provocateur, the
bait tosser...The Goat Roper lies and then runs away.  Must have wet his
pampers thru to the plastic liner.

cactus jammies,

>>xfish you're practicing information control.  and you're believeing
>>whatever
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> fill your pants with maple syrup?  And does it have anything to do
> with sheep?
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Jan 2005 15:08 GMT
No, I didn't provoke anything, CJ.  I believe it was you that insulted
the good ole US of A before there was any good natured, friendly
declaration of war by us Yanks (I'm a southerner).  If you got your
knickers filled with maple syrup, it's not my fault.  ahahahahahaha
Which lie are you talking about, CJ?  Gee, I didn't realize you're as
much of an a.shole as you come across.  Paranoid, eh?
Elmo

Don't take me as an authourity on the issue, but I think that in many
cases, the squaddies only *appear* to have maple syrup in their drawers.
Besides there was the secret element of surprise that nobody on the Kool
Aid gang suspected was the plan all along. The goose-sh.t connection
that turned it all into fudge on the bridge, trapped your soaker team in
their sneaks and made the to your instigator hide his scrawny bones away
in the shame of defeat and frustration.   You know of whom I speak,
the provocateur, the bait tosser...The Goat Roper lies and then runs
away. Must have wet his pampers thru to the plastic liner.
cactus jammies,
"Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro" <xarlos_no_spam@fishbro.com> wrote
in message news:41dd7865.22297515@news.east.cox.net...
xfish you're practicing information control. and you're believeing
whatever
that goat-roper tosses out. May be good for office stripes but not
action stripes. Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously.
Alright then! If that's the case, I'll go ahead and ask: Why do you fill
your pants with maple syrup? And does it have anything to do with sheep?

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Cactus Jammies - 07 Jan 2005 15:28 GMT
could be, but as you say you are no expert.  Ya you're right, though,
probably a little fearful.  Not Paranoid.

Cactus Jammies

No, I didn't provoke anything, CJ.  I believe it was you that insulted
the good ole US of A before there was any good natured, friendly
declaration of war by us Yanks (I'm a southerner).  If you got your
knickers filled with maple syrup, it's not my fault.  ahahahahahaha
Which lie are you talking about, CJ?  Gee, I didn't realize you're as
much of an a.shole as you come across.  Paranoid, eh?
Elmo

Don't take me as an authourity on the issue, but I think that in many
cases, the squaddies only *appear* to have maple syrup in their drawers.
Besides there was the secret element of surprise that nobody on the Kool
Aid gang suspected was the plan all along. The goose-sh.t connection
that turned it all into fudge on the bridge, trapped your soaker team in
their sneaks and made the to your instigator hide his scrawny bones away
in the shame of defeat and frustration. You know of whom I speak,
the provocateur, the bait tosser...The Goat Roper lies and then runs
away. Must have wet his pampers thru to the plastic liner.
cactus jammies,
"Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro" <xarlos_no_spam@fishbro.com> wrote
in message news:41dd7865.22297515@news.east.cox.net...
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:20:30 GMT, "Cactus Jammies"
<not@joshuatree.nemor> wrote:
xfish you're practicing information control. and you're believeing
whatever
that goat-roper tosses out. May be good for office stripes but not
action stripes. Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously.
Alright then! If that's the case, I'll go ahead and ask: Why do you fill
your pants with maple syrup? And does it have anything to do with sheep?

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Jan 2005 21:56 GMT
You didn't answer my question about which lie you're referring to.  
Elmo
////////
could be, but as you say you are no expert. Ya you're right, though,
probably a little fearful. Not Paranoid.
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA5D3-881@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... No, I didn't
provoke anything, CJ. I believe it was you that insulted the good ole US
of A before there was any good natured, friendly declaration of war by
us Yanks (I'm a southerner). If you got your knickers filled with maple
syrup, it's not my fault. ahahahahahaha Which lie are you talking about,
CJ? Gee, I didn't realize you're as much of an a.shole as you come
across. Paranoid, eh? Elmo
Don't take me as an authourity on the issue, but I think that in many
cases, the squaddies only *appear* to have maple syrup in their drawers.
Besides there was the secret element of surprise that nobody on the Kool
Aid gang suspected was the plan all along. The goose-sh.t connection
that turned it all into fudge on the bridge, trapped your soaker team in
their sneaks and made the to your instigator hide his scrawny bones away
in the shame of defeat and frustration. You know of whom I speak, the
provocateur, the bait tosser...The Goat Roper lies and then runs away.
Must have wet his pampers thru to the plastic liner. cactus jammies,
"Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro" <xarlos_no_spam@fishbro.com> wrote
in message news:41dd7865.22297515@news.east.cox.net... On Thu, 06 Jan
2005 15:20:30 GMT, "Cactus Jammies" <not@joshuatree.nemor> wrote:
xfish you're practicing information control. and you're believeing
whatever
that goat-roper tosses out. May be good for office stripes but not
action stripes. Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously. Alright
then! If that's the case, I'll go ahead and ask: Why do you fill your
pants with maple syrup? And does it have anything to do with sheep?
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Cactus Jammies - 07 Jan 2005 22:42 GMT
The first one was that you signed the piece as being from an Alfred E
Neuman.
I hope we are still just joking around.

CJ

> You didn't answer my question about which lie you're referring to.
> Elmo
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 08 Jan 2005 15:56 GMT
Nope on both counts.  The news releases were signed A.E. Newman, as in
Anthony Elvis Newman.  This is no longer a laughing matter, it's become
a serious issue affecting international relations between our two
countries of historic proportions.  If you don't release ALL the beavers
you're holding as political prisoners, you're risking economic sanctions
and possible invasion by a coallition of forces.
Elmo
/////////
The first one was that you signed the piece as being from an Alfred E
Neuman.
I hope we are still just joking around.
CJ
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9751-41DF0573-912@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
You didn't answer my question about which lie you're referring to. Elmo
////////
could be, but as you say you are no expert. Ya you're right, though,
probably a little fearful. Not Paranoid.
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA5D3-881@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... No, I didn't
provoke anything, CJ. I believe it was you that insulted the good ole US
of A before there was any good natured, friendly declaration of war by
us Yanks (I'm a southerner). If you got your knickers filled with maple
syrup, it's not my fault. ahahahahahaha Which lie are you talking about,
CJ? Gee, I didn't realize you're as much of an a.shole as you come
across. Paranoid, eh? Elmo
Don't take me as an authourity on the issue, but I think that in many
cases, the squaddies only *appear* to have maple syrup in their drawers.
Besides there was the secret element of surprise that nobody on the Kool
Aid gang suspected was the plan all along. The goose-sh.t connection
that turned it all into fudge on the bridge, trapped your soaker team in
their sneaks and made the to your instigator hide his scrawny bones away
in the shame of defeat and frustration. You know of whom I speak, the
provocateur, the bait tosser...The Goat Roper lies and then runs away.
Must have wet his pampers thru to the plastic liner. cactus jammies,
"Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro" <xarlos_no_spam@fishbro.com> wrote
in message news:41dd7865.22297515@news.east.cox.net... On Thu, 06 Jan
2005 15:20:30 GMT, "Cactus Jammies" <not@joshuatree.nemor> wrote: xfish
you're practicing information control. and you're believeing whatever
that goat-roper tosses out. May be good for office stripes but not
action stripes. Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously. Alright
then! If that's the case, I'll go ahead and ask: Why do you fill your
pants with maple syrup? And does it have anything to do with sheep?
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Cactus Jammies - 08 Jan 2005 17:51 GMT
and what do you think would happen to all those beaver that suddenly got
released?  whooz beavers are they anyways?  Lake Superior ones are Canuck
beaves and Lack Champlain ones belong to Vermont?   Where they make lots of
good (almost as good) maple syrup which they stick in their pipes and dream
of Coral Gables.  And get plugged sinuses along the way.

Vermontese Red Leaf sprinkles on their Maple Milk Duds?!.  War is Hell!

Cactus Jammies

> Nope on both counts.  The news releases were signed A.E. Newman, as in
> Anthony Elvis Newman.  This is no longer a laughing matter, it's become
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Jan 2005 15:17 GMT
They should be allowed to integrate into normal society and given the
right to vote. Milk Duds with red mape leaf sprinkles?  Sounds like a
communist conspiracy to me.  Back to the front.    
Elmo
//////////
and what do you think would happen to all those beaver that suddenly got
released? whooz beavers are they anyways? Lake Superior ones are Canuck
beaves and Lack Champlain ones belong to Vermont?   Where they make
lots of good (almost as good) maple syrup which they stick in their
pipes and dream of Coral Gables. And get plugged sinuses along the way.
Vermontese Red Leaf sprinkles on their Maple Milk Duds?!. War is Hell!
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24437-41E002CA-9@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
Nope on both counts. The news releases were signed A.E. Newman, as in
Anthony Elvis Newman. This is no longer a laughing matter, it's become a
serious issue affecting international relations between our two
countries of historic proportions. If you don't release ALL the beavers
you're holding as political prisoners, you're risking economic sanctions
and possible invasion by a coallition of forces. Elmo
/////////
The first one was that you signed the piece as being from an Alfred E
Neuman.
I hope we are still just joking around.
CJ
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9751-41DF0573-912@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... You didn't answer
my question about which lie you're referring to. Elmo
////////
could be, but as you say you are no expert. Ya you're right, though,
probably a little fearful. Not Paranoid.
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA5D3-881@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... No, I didn't
provoke anything, CJ. I believe it was you that insulted the good ole US
of A before there was any good natured, friendly declaration of war by
us Yanks (I'm a southerner). If you got your knickers filled with maple
syrup, it's not my fault. ahahahahahaha Which lie are you talking about,
CJ? Gee, I didn't realize you're as much of an a.shole as you come
across. Paranoid, eh? Elmo
Don't take me as an authourity on the issue, but I think that in many
cases, the squaddies only *appear* to have maple syrup in their drawers.
Besides there was the secret element of surprise that nobody on the Kool
Aid gang suspected was the plan all along. The goose-sh.t connection
that turned it all into fudge on the bridge, trapped your soaker team in
their sneaks and made the to your instigator hide his scrawny bones away
in the shame of defeat and frustration. You know of whom I speak, the
provocateur, the bait tosser...The Goat Roper lies and then runs away.
Must have wet his pampers thru to the plastic liner. cactus jammies,
"Xarlos - the xrazy fish - Fishbro" <xarlos_no_spam@fishbro.com> wrote
in message news:41dd7865.22297515@news.east.cox.net... On Thu, 06 Jan
2005 15:20:30 GMT, "Cactus Jammies" <not@joshuatree.nemor> wrote: xfish
you're practicing information control. and you're believeing whatever
that goat-roper tosses out. May be good for office stripes but not
action stripes. Up here, we take our Maple Syrup very seriously. Alright
then! If that's the case, I'll go ahead and ask: Why do you fill your
pants with maple syrup? And does it have anything to do with sheep?
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Waterspider - 09 Jan 2005 03:54 GMT
> Nope on both counts.  The news releases were signed A.E. Newman, as in
> Anthony Elvis Newman.  This is no longer a laughing matter, it's become
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and possible invasion by a coallition of forces.
> Elmo

Some sobering news from the battlefield in Pender Harbour...
The beaver you've been reading about are missing, presumed dead. It was
suggested that death was caused by ingestion of "heavy metal".
We fear retaliation.

Spidey
JV - 09 Jan 2005 04:23 GMT
The beaver are safe and sound now. I rounded them all up and have all of
them in training for a new occupations in protective custody.
Serious Dam Building, this is needed in Northern Calif on the American
River. Seems that LA is going to start stealing water in mischievous
manners. These Canada beavers are the most rugged enduring hard working
beavers I ever seen. A dozen of the new beavers are going to help set up
the Space ship for departure for those on tx, and for those who want to
get away from their lives for a little while. The deserts took 4 days of
loading with a crane. Now I have 500lbs of pot but i know those Canadian
beavers are heavy smokers hehe so i cant let them do it. I'm getting the
space ship,
ship shape for the flight. All aboard.
Juanita
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Jan 2005 15:42 GMT
Space ship?  Are you kidding?  We're at war!!!!!  Duty calls.....I don't
care how much weed you've got on board.  I'm not going anywhere til the
hostilities have ended.  
Elmo
///////////
Re: News From The Front  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2005, 8:23pm (CST-2)
From: Meling333@webtv.net (JV)
The beaver are safe and sound now. I rounded them all up and have all of
them in training for a new occupations in protective custody. Serious
Dam Building, this is needed in Northern Calif on the American River.
Seems that LA is going to start stealing water in mischievous manners.
These Canada beavers are the most rugged enduring hard working beavers I
ever seen. A dozen of the new beavers are going to help set up the Space
ship for departure for those on tx, and for those who want to get away
from their lives for a little while. The deserts took 4 days of loading
with a crane. Now I have 500lbs of pot but i know those Canadian beavers
are heavy smokers hehe so i cant let them do it. I'm getting the space
ship,
ship shape for the flight. All aboard.
Juanita

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Jan 2005 15:37 GMT

Re: News From The Front  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2005, 7:54pm (CST-2)
From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider)
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24437-41E002CA-9@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
Nope on both counts. The news releases were signed A.E. Newman, as in
Anthony Elvis Newman. This is no longer a laughing matter, it's become a
serious issue affecting international relations between our two
countries of historic proportions. If you don't release ALL the beavers
you're holding as political prisoners, you're risking economic sanctions
and possible invasion by a coallition of forces. Elmo
Some sobering news from the battlefield in Pender Harbour... The beaver
you've been reading about are missing, presumed dead. It was suggested
that death was caused by ingestion of "heavy metal". We fear
retaliation.
Spidey
////////
Our largest battleship, the USS Thunderslake, is steaming toward Pender
Harbour as we speak.  'Heavy metal", eh? Perhaps a week of Barry Manilow
broadcast over loudspeakers from the deck of the Thunderslake will teach
the Canadians a lesson.  
Elmo

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Waterspider - 09 Jan 2005 19:16 GMT
> Re: News From The Front
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> the Canadians a lesson.
> Elmo

Further investigation revealed that the heavy metal came from a .22 calibre
rifle.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Jan 2005 22:37 GMT

Re: News From The Front  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Jan 9, 2005, 11:16am (CST-2)
From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider)
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: News From The Front
Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2005, 7:54pm (CST-2)
From: waterspider@moonlight.net (Waterspider)
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24437-41E002CA-9@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... Nope on both
counts. The news releases were signed A.E. Newman, as in Anthony Elvis
Newman. This is no longer a laughing matter, it's become a serious issue
affecting international relations between our two countries of historic
proportions. If you don't release ALL the beavers you're holding as
political prisoners, you're risking economic sanctions and possible
invasion by a coallition of forces. Elmo Some sobering news from the
battlefield in Pender Harbour... The beaver you've been reading about
are missing, presumed dead. It was suggested that death was caused by
ingestion of "heavy metal". We fear retaliation.
Spidey
////////
Our largest battleship, the USS Thunderslake, is steaming toward Pender
Harbour as we speak. 'Heavy metal", eh? Perhaps a week of Barry Manilow
broadcast over loudspeakers from the deck of the Thunderslake will teach
the Canadians a lesson.
Elmo
Further investigation revealed that the heavy metal came from a .22
calibre rifle.
/////////
I figured it was lead.......  bastards!!!!!!
Elmo

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Fsplink - 31 Jan 2005 05:22 GMT
I just want some of that syrup on my pancakes if ya don't mind!

>Re: News From The Front  
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
>http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Jan 2005 14:57 GMT
Millions of Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup
warriors from the North.  It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have
misjudged their supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of
running out.  Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of
fresh troops clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns
at the outmanned enemy at all major border crossings.  Many can be seen
standing just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing.
President Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that
would drop millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time.  The bombs were
being loaded onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning.
A.E. Newman (on-the-scene reporter)
Cactus Jammies - 07 Jan 2005 15:39 GMT
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions?  What next after
the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the Red Leaf
goose pond?  I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of  "collateral packing"
in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting on the fudge-mired bridge
at the Canadian border (so they can get married with each other).   (These
wouldn't be regular force, Elmo?...)

8-)

Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really sets
me off  - CJ   )

> Millions of Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup
> warriors from the North.  It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> being loaded onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning.
> A.E. Newman (on-the-scene reporter)
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 07 Jan 2005 22:09 GMT
Us Americans could always pack up the country and move it somewhere
else.  Then you'd have to fend for yourself.  It'd be tough, but you
could do it.  buh, buh, Bush?  You're almost making me like the
son-of-a-bitch.  ahahahahahahah
Elmo
//////////
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions? What next
after the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the
Red Leaf goose pond? I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of
"collateral packing" in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting
on the fudge-mired bridge at the Canadian border (so they can get
married with each other).   (These wouldn't be regular force,
Elmo?...)
8-)
Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really
sets
me off - CJ   )
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA33E-876@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net...
Millions of Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup
warriors from the North. It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have
misjudged their supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of
running out. Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of
fresh troops clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns
at the outmanned enemy at all major border crossings. Many can be seen
standing just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing.
President Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that
would drop millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time. The bombs were
being loaded onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning. A.E.
Newman (on-the-scene reporter)

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
Cactus Jammies - 07 Jan 2005 22:51 GMT
Elmo you know very well that our economies are the two largest trading
together in the world.  Not many Americans know that.  Yes your economy
could overcome that committment, but at what price?  Canada's raw material
proximity to the USA reduces the impact that China and other developing
economies have over the over-spent US economy.  The fearful aspect is that
the US Americans in various entities throughout the centuries have tried to
include the Canadian territory as part of their own. So fearful is rational.
Paranoia is for shnooks.

And I don't blame the Russians for watching nervously as the old Europe
become the new Europe.   Ukraine at one time had been a very willing partner
to the USSR and their attempt to keep Hitler out, back in '43.  Even if the
Russians appear to be crude, they have all the resources that we don't and
they can ship it to CHINA if they want and that would be that.

hanging solid

Cactus Jammies

Us Americans could always pack up the country and move it somewhere
else.  Then you'd have to fend for yourself.  It'd be tough, but you
could do it.  buh, buh, Bush?  You're almost making me like the
son-of-a-bitch.  ahahahahahahah
Elmo
//////////
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions? What next
after the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the
Red Leaf goose pond? I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of
"collateral packing" in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting
on the fudge-mired bridge at the Canadian border (so they can get
married with each other). (These wouldn't be regular force,
Elmo?...)
8-)
Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really
sets
me off - CJ )
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA33E-876@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net...
Millions of Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup
warriors from the North. It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have
misjudged their supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of
running out. Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of
fresh troops clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns
at the outmanned enemy at all major border crossings. Many can be seen
standing just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing.
President Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that
would drop millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time. The bombs were
being loaded onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning. A.E.
Newman (on-the-scene reporter)

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 08 Jan 2005 16:19 GMT
Are you saying that Canadians fear that the US wants to take them over,
invade them?  ahahahahaha  I believe the view by Americans is that the
Canadian citizens share many of the same values as we do and view Canada
as an important partner and ally.  Yeah, it's understandable that Russia
is nervous about all their former satellites joining the European bloc.
Fact is, it's their own damn fault.  The world order is changing at a
rapid pace and is a dangerous place.  elmo
///////////    
Elmo you know very well that our economies are the two largest trading
together in the world. Not many Americans know that. Yes your economy
could overcome that committment, but at what price? Canada's raw
material proximity to the USA reduces the impact that China and other
developing economies have over the over-spent US economy. The fearful
aspect is that the US Americans in various entities throughout the
centuries have tried to include the Canadian territory as part of their
own. So fearful is rational. Paranoia is for shnooks.
And I don't blame the Russians for watching nervously as the old Europe
become the new Europe.   Ukraine at one time had been a very willing
partner to the USSR and their attempt to keep Hitler out, back in '43.
Even if the Russians appear to be crude, they have all the resources
that we don't and they can ship it to CHINA if they want and that would
be that.
hanging solid
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9751-41DF0898-915@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... Us Americans
could always pack up the country and move it somewhere else. Then you'd
have to fend for yourself. It'd be tough, but you could do it. buh, buh,
Bush? You're almost making me like the son-of-a-bitch. ahahahahahahah
Elmo
//////////
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions? What next
after the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the
Red Leaf goose pond? I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of
"collateral packing" in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting
on the fudge-mired bridge at the Canadian border (so they can get
married with each other). (These wouldn't be regular force, Elmo?...)
8-)
Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really
sets
me off - CJ )
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA33E-876@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... Millions of
Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup warriors from
the North. It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have misjudged their
supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of running out.
Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of fresh troops
clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns at the
outmanned enemy at all major border crossings. Many can be seen standing
just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing. President
Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that would drop
millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time. The bombs were being loaded
onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning. A.E. Newman
(on-the-scene reporter)
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

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Cactus Jammies - 08 Jan 2005 18:05 GMT
No I am not saying that I fear it is going to happen, per se, so much as
take a look at history and see what the past dredges up.  I think that
history is a ring of cycles of human adaptation and there are lessons that
need learning throughout human historical time.  The historical past creates
the environment in which we are existing right now.  All it takes is the
right conditions and the Right leaders for it to happen all over again.  Of
course we share many values, and I can't think of any that we don't share,
to tell you the truth.   We do have a sense of history that has the USA as
the cornerstone, because of the proximity and the great expansiveness
portrayed day after day after day.  We generally do feel a little taken for
granted in this perspective I think, in this major-minor twice-bitten
anxiety we have about American ambitions or unilateral acts.  The things
Americans would not see is that Canada's border has provided ease of
transportation, access to unlimited energy supplies, complete integration in
many world-scale enterprises and that our countries provide stability to
each other's populations.  Very Important.

cheers
Cactus Jammies

Are you saying that Canadians fear that the US wants to take them over,
invade them?  ahahahahaha  I believe the view by Americans is that the
Canadian citizens share many of the same values as we do and view Canada
as an important partner and ally.  Yeah, it's understandable that Russia
is nervous about all their former satellites joining the European bloc.
Fact is, it's their own damn fault.  The world order is changing at a
rapid pace and is a dangerous place.  elmo
///////////
Elmo you know very well that our economies are the two largest trading
together in the world. Not many Americans know that. Yes your economy
could overcome that committment, but at what price? Canada's raw
material proximity to the USA reduces the impact that China and other
developing economies have over the over-spent US economy. The fearful
aspect is that the US Americans in various entities throughout the
centuries have tried to include the Canadian territory as part of their
own. So fearful is rational. Paranoia is for shnooks.
And I don't blame the Russians for watching nervously as the old Europe
become the new Europe. Ukraine at one time had been a very willing
partner to the USSR and their attempt to keep Hitler out, back in '43.
Even if the Russians appear to be crude, they have all the resources
that we don't and they can ship it to CHINA if they want and that would
be that.
hanging solid
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9751-41DF0898-915@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... Us Americans
could always pack up the country and move it somewhere else. Then you'd
have to fend for yourself. It'd be tough, but you could do it. buh, buh,
Bush? You're almost making me like the son-of-a-bitch. ahahahahahahah
Elmo
//////////
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions? What next
after the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the
Red Leaf goose pond? I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of
"collateral packing" in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting
on the fudge-mired bridge at the Canadian border (so they can get
married with each other). (These wouldn't be regular force, Elmo?...)
8-)
Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really
sets
me off - CJ )
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA33E-876@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... Millions of
Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup warriors from
the North. It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have misjudged their
supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of running out.
Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of fresh troops
clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns at the
outmanned enemy at all major border crossings. Many can be seen standing
just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing. President
Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that would drop
millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time. The bombs were being loaded
onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning. A.E. Newman
(on-the-scene reporter)
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 09 Jan 2005 15:28 GMT
Yes, I'm aware of the history.  I can't imagine a scenario that would
involve the US invading Canada, tho.  LOL.  I remember riding a bus with
Canadian Air Force personnel on board into Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD)
where they worked side by side with our guys.  
Elmo
////////  
No I am not saying that I fear it is going to happen, per se, so much as
take a look at history and see what the past dredges up. I think that
history is a ring of cycles of human adaptation and there are lessons
that need learning throughout human historical time. The historical past
creates the environment in which we are existing right now. All it takes
is the right conditions and the Right leaders for it to happen all over
again. Of course we share many values, and I can't think of any that we
don't share, to tell you the truth.   We do have a sense of history
that has the USA as the cornerstone, because of the proximity and the
great expansiveness portrayed day after day after day. We generally do
feel a little taken for granted in this perspective I think, in this
major-minor twice-bitten anxiety we have about American ambitions or
unilateral acts. The things Americans would not see is that Canada's
border has provided ease of transportation, access to unlimited energy
supplies, complete integration in many world-scale enterprises and that
our countries provide stability to each other's populations. Very
Important.
cheers
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24437-41E00801-12@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... Are you saying
that Canadians fear that the US wants to take them over, invade them?
ahahahahaha I believe the view by Americans is that the Canadian
citizens share many of the same values as we do and view Canada as an
important partner and ally. Yeah, it's understandable that Russia is
nervous about all their former satellites joining the European bloc.
Fact is, it's their own damn fault. The world order is changing at a
rapid pace and is a dangerous place. elmo
///////////
Elmo you know very well that our economies are the two largest trading
together in the world. Not many Americans know that. Yes your economy
could overcome that committment, but at what price? Canada's raw
material proximity to the USA reduces the impact that China and other
developing economies have over the over-spent US economy. The fearful
aspect is that the US Americans in various entities throughout the
centuries have tried to include the Canadian territory as part of their
own. So fearful is rational. Paranoia is for shnooks. And I don't blame
the Russians for watching nervously as the old Europe become the new
Europe. Ukraine at one time had been a very willing partner to the USSR
and their attempt to keep Hitler out, back in '43. Even if the Russians
appear to be crude, they have all the resources that we don't and they
can ship it to CHINA if they want and that would be that.
hanging solid
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9751-41DF0898-915@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... Us Americans
could always pack up the country and move it somewhere else. Then you'd
have to fend for yourself. It'd be tough, but you could do it. buh, buh,
Bush? You're almost making me like the son-of-a-bitch. ahahahahahahah
Elmo
//////////
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions? What next
after the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the
Red Leaf goose pond? I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of
"collateral packing" in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting
on the fudge-mired bridge at the Canadian border (so they can get
married with each other). (These wouldn't be regular force, Elmo?...)
8-)
Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really
sets
me off - CJ )
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA33E-876@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... Millions of
Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup warriors from
the North. It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have misjudged their
supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of running out.
Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of fresh troops
clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns at the
outmanned enemy at all major border crossings. Many can be seen standing
just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing. President
Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that would drop
millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time. The bombs were being loaded
onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning. A.E. Newman
(on-the-scene reporter)
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http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum
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Paul - 09 Jan 2005 16:25 GMT
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:28:04 -0600, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message
ID <20582-41E14D84-17@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>Yes, I'm aware of the history.  I can't imagine a scenario that would
>involve the US invading Canada, tho.  LOL.  I remember riding a bus with
>Canadian Air Force personnel on board into Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD)
>where they worked side by side with our guys.

Tell me something here as I don't know the history of it.  I was
wondering how come Alaska looks like it's under the USA on the world
map when it would make more sense geographically to be part of Canada.
I guess it must be something to do with oil but was this stuff
negotiated peacefully or what?  I ask because if the USA already have
some degree of control over the Alaskan oil revenue, then there would
not be any need to invade Canada anyway.  I'm just grateful that here
in the UK we don't have enough oil left to be invaded over.  I notice
that Scotland now has a greater degree of independence from England.
It's a bit like the government in London realised that they had milked
the oil revenue (the oil was mainly of the Scottish coast) so they
said to Scotland.  "OK, Piss off. We don't need you now"  :-)

Maybe I'm just a cynic :-)
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From: dontspamme@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk (Paul)
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:28:04 -0600, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message ID
<20582-41E14D84-17@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:
Yes, I'm aware of the history. I can't imagine a scenario that would
involve the US invading Canada, tho. LOL. I remember riding a bus with
Canadian Air Force personnel on board into Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD)
where they worked side by side with our guys.
Tell me something here as I don't know the history of it. I was
wondering how come Alaska looks like it's under the USA on the world map
when it would make more sense geographically to be part of Canada. I
guess it must be something to do with oil but was this stuff negotiated
peacefully or what? I ask because if the USA already have some degree of
control over the Alaskan oil revenue, then there would not be any need
to invade Canada anyway. I'm just grateful that here in the UK we don't
have enough oil left to be invaded over. I notice that Scotland now has
a greater degree of independence from England. It's a bit like the
government in London realised that they had milked the oil revenue (the
oil was mainly of the Scottish coast) so they said to Scotland. "OK,
Piss off. We don't need you now" :-)
Maybe I'm just a cynic :-)
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////////
ahahahaahahaha!!!  It has absolutely nothing to do with Alaska.  It goes
back to the French and Indian Wars (18th century) and to a small
invasion of British Columbia by the Yanks almost a couple hundred years
ago.  The Canadians kicked our butts, so we left em alone ever since.
Let me know if I've got it wrong, CJ.  Us Americans have our own view of
how things went, let me know what your commie propaganda mill taught
you, eh CJ  Brits are ok by me.  LOL  Paul, I once had a Brit instructor
teaching me photo recon intelligence while I was in the Air Force.  The
British were the undisputed champs at getting good pics.  Big balls!!!
Elmo    

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Cactus Jammies - 09 Jan 2005 23:32 GMT
History is written by the victors.  See my version below!

Cactus Jammies
//////////////////////////////////////
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
re:
> ////////
> ahahahaahahaha!!!  It has absolutely nothing to do with Alaska.  It goes
> back to the French and Indian Wars (18th century) and to a small
> invasion of British Columbia

and

> The Canadians kicked our butts, so we left em alone ever since.
> Let me know if I've got it wrong, CJ.  Us Americans have our own view of
> how things went, let me know what your commie propaganda mill taught
> you, eh CJ  Brits are ok by me.

Well, for one, it was the revolutionary war in 1777, and the attempted
invasions by Gen. Benedict Arnold on Montreal and Quebec.  They failed
because of a number of problems, including the fact that not even the
Quebecquois (Habitants) were willing to join in popular support of the
Anti-Brits.  The Quebecquois basically ignored them and they went away in
the depths of winter.  The troopers in the New York Militia or whatever
outfit they were then were waiting for pay and were grumpy and did not want
to go blowing up a city full of their business customers, as there was lots
of trading going up and down the rivers.  And they would not have succeeded
anyways.

Nobody got really whupped except Gen Arnold a few years later.  He lost a
large number of deserters (Maple Syrup addicts) and deaths due to extreme
weather and no food provisions.  Talk about priorities, eh?  Not everyone
can survive on maple syrup alone.

Then again there were some rather major war skirmishes along the great lakes
with the British and the American Navies doing most of the fighting,
followed by invasions of each other's capitols,  Washington by sea, and
York, by land.  These forces all were including Native Nations allies which
peed off both the canuck and the Northern New Yorkers and Pennsylvanians (?)
no end, and more importantly, their rivals for tribal ownership of
traditional regions and watersheds.  That was the War of 1812, what we call
it, what you call it is I believe the French and Indian War.  There were
lots of battles Canadians are supposed to know are special in our history
like Queenstown's Heights and Lundy's Lane, near Niagra Falls where the
invasion forces from the USA were stonewalled.  Not whupped.  The true
whupping in that conflict, was the defeat of Cornwallis at New Orleans where
davey crocket gave him a lashin' or whatever those disney guys got you
believing back in your wonderbread days.

Then there was the Invasion of the Fenian raiders who were actually state
Militias disbanded back to the Northern border states after the US-CS Civil
War. They were whupped.  As usual with most army tactical moves those days,
they were stodgey and unpredicatable from either side at any time.

cactus jammies
lotus lander
rick nelson - 10 Jan 2005 04:37 GMT
>  That was the War of 1812, what we call
> it, what you call it is I believe the French and Indian War.  

 We call the War of 1812 just that. The French and Indian War, on the
other hand, was from 1755 to 1764. The title of this war refers to the
foes England faced. The Treaty of Paris in 1763 gave all of North
America east of the Mississippi, except New Orleans, to the English. The
Spanish got all the rest. Western Indians continued hostilities against
the Brits for a year after Paris was signed. No "Americans" fought in
this war because they still considered themselves British subjects at
this time. Geo. Washington led the British troops, in the first battle
in the as yet undeclared war, against Fort Duquense.

This will all be on the test.

    rick
Cactus Jammies - 10 Jan 2005 05:10 GMT
OK Rick, and wrong century no less, eh?  I never did understand what the
French and Indian Wars in American versions of history actually were, I
guess.   Until someone else mentioned the name before me in this string, I
had actually forgotten about it, but I may have used the term none the less.
I now remember that I once got it mixed up years ago on a test, with the US
Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.  But I forgot completely about the
actual French and Indian war which we knew in Grade 5 history as the Seven
Years War and was for the colonies in Canada, definitive, because it stopped
French colonial activity in Quebec.  The biggest battle in Canada took place
for Quebec City in 1755, and was atwixt the French, the British and some
irregulars.  The Redcoats regulars were supplemented with some American
colonial troops.

In 1812, the English were busy with Bonaparte in Europe and did not have the
garrisons to deal effectively with the American / French liaison until after
Napoleon was defeated but it was too late for the Brits in any case.  And
I'm pretty sure about the Revolutionary War, the 1812 and the Fenian
invasion attempts.

We have two strikes against me, both short and long term memory loss.
What's left now?

cheers

Cactus Jammies
////////////////////////////////////////////////

>>  That was the War of 1812, what we call it, what you call it is I believe
>> the French and Indian War.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> rick
Cactus Jammies - 10 Jan 2005 16:51 GMT
Hi Paul,
The United States bought the Alaskan territories (Seward's Folly) from the
Russian Throne in the nineteenth century.  That's were I got that Tovarich
hat in the family gallery at doc elmo's place, when we were up in Juneau
last September  That part of the world was previously inhabited for trading
purposes by Russian sea otter trappers and whalers, I think.  And of course
before them, the Innu and the Coast Indian tribes.  The British explorers
were mostly ocean based, and the interior of  BC territory was trampled by
traders and surveyors, miners coming later.  The British explorers never
sailed that far up the map.  They were looking for the shortest western sea
route between Europe and the Orient.  The Russians had already come down the
map from their direction and there must have been some detente over setting
arbitrary territorial limits, because I don't recall in my limited
understanding of why there was no sabre rattling between the Russians and
the Brits over this concession.

There was a companion drive following that to expand according to the
Manifest Destiny edicts  declaring that because of the sheer might of the
American system it was necessary and natural to move borders up in British
Columbia to 54th parallel rather than the 49th.  (Oregon Territory)  They
pretty much did that during the minor gold rushes in the interior, anyways,
until the railways came to town, bringing the settlers and the immigrant
workers, and thereby keeping American expansionist chances down to a dull
roar.  Cause that's the way settlements happen.  People settle. The Brits
claimed the whole columbia river drainage system which comes out at Fort
Astoria, Oregon.  These claims were all based on which fur trading company
with the compliance of State Departments, managed to keep facilities running
along the Columbia River.  There was some sabre rattling, but mostly a lot
of natural disaster avoidance or sufferage.

The following was found at
http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/gahff/html/ff_003500_alaskapurcha.htm
Alaska Purchase
(1867), treaty negotiated by Secretary of State William H. Seward under
which the United States purchased Alaska from Russia for $7.2 million. The
acquisition was made to eliminate Russian influence in the Western
Hemisphere and to expand the U.S. territories. Many Americans, including the
Radical Republicans, Seward's political opponents, derided the purchase,
calling it "Seward's Icebox" and "Seward's Folly." Alaska at the time seemed
to be only a great Arctic wasteland.

You can find out more about Manifest Destiny and Fifty - Four Forty or Fight
at:
http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa031600a.htm

Fifty-Four Forty or Fight!

In 1818, the United States and the United Kingdom (controlling British
Canada) established a joint claim over the Oregon Territory - the region
west of the Rocky Mountains and between 42? North and 54?40' North (the
southern boundary of Russia's Alaska territory).

Joint control worked for over a decade and a half but ultimately, the
parties decided that joint occupancy wasn't working well so they set about
to divide Oregon.

The 1844 Democratic presidential candidate James K. Polk ran on a platform
of taking control over the entire Oregon Territory and used the famous
campaign slogan, "Fifty-four Forty or Fight!" (after the line of latitude
serving as the northern boundary of Oregon at 54?40'). Polk's plan was to
claim and go to war over the entire territory for the United States.

President James K. Polk
Polk won the election with a popular vote of 1,337,243 to Henry Clay's
1,299,068 (the electoral vote yielded Polk 170 votes vs. 105 for Clay).

Through negotiations with the British after Polk's inauguration, the
boundary between the U.S. and British Canada was established at 49? with the
Treaty of Oregon in 1846. The exception to the 49th parallel boundary is
that it turns south in the channel separating Vancouver Island with the
mainland and then turns south through the Juan de Fuca Strait. This maritime
portion of the boundary wasn't officially demarcated until 1872.

The boundary established by the Oregon Treaty still exists today between the
United States and independent Canada.

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Hope this helped, you see there is a history, unimagined and certainly
memorable.

Cactus Jammies

> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:28:04 -0600, elmoemerson@webtv.net, in message
> ID <20582-41E14D84-17@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>, in the newsgroup
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Maybe I'm just a cynic :-)
Cactus Jammies - 09 Jan 2005 17:44 GMT
we do have our bus riding skills to keep the homefires burning long after
the fickle koolaid gang has pulled up stakes and moved their sideshow to
albania or somewheres not near here.  Like to Sodium and Ghonnorea.  don't
forget to pack your bananas. they don't grow in Albania.

Cactus Jammies
waving bye bye
...........................................
Yes, I'm aware of the history.  I can't imagine a scenario that would
involve the US invading Canada, tho.  LOL.  I remember riding a bus with
Canadian Air Force personnel on board into Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD)
where they worked side by side with our guys.
Elmo
////////
No I am not saying that I fear it is going to happen, per se, so much as
take a look at history and see what the past dredges up. I think that
history is a ring of cycles of human adaptation and there are lessons
that need learning throughout human historical time. The historical past
creates the environment in which we are existing right now. All it takes
is the right conditions and the Right leaders for it to happen all over
again. Of course we share many values, and I can't think of any that we
don't share, to tell you the truth. We do have a sense of history
that has the USA as the cornerstone, because of the proximity and the
great expansiveness portrayed day after day after day. We generally do
feel a little taken for granted in this perspective I think, in this
major-minor twice-bitten anxiety we have about American ambitions or
unilateral acts. The things Americans would not see is that Canada's
border has provided ease of transportation, access to unlimited energy
supplies, complete integration in many world-scale enterprises and that
our countries provide stability to each other's populations. Very
Important.
cheers
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24437-41E00801-12@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... Are you saying
that Canadians fear that the US wants to take them over, invade them?
ahahahahaha I believe the view by Americans is that the Canadian
citizens share many of the same values as we do and view Canada as an
important partner and ally. Yeah, it's understandable that Russia is
nervous about all their former satellites joining the European bloc.
Fact is, it's their own damn fault. The world order is changing at a
rapid pace and is a dangerous place. elmo
///////////
Elmo you know very well that our economies are the two largest trading
together in the world. Not many Americans know that. Yes your economy
could overcome that committment, but at what price? Canada's raw
material proximity to the USA reduces the impact that China and other
developing economies have over the over-spent US economy. The fearful
aspect is that the US Americans in various entities throughout the
centuries have tried to include the Canadian territory as part of their
own. So fearful is rational. Paranoia is for shnooks. And I don't blame
the Russians for watching nervously as the old Europe become the new
Europe. Ukraine at one time had been a very willing partner to the USSR
and their attempt to keep Hitler out, back in '43. Even if the Russians
appear to be crude, they have all the resources that we don't and they
can ship it to CHINA if they want and that would be that.
hanging solid
Cactus Jammies
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9751-41DF0898-915@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... Us Americans
could always pack up the country and move it somewhere else. Then you'd
have to fend for yourself. It'd be tough, but you could do it. buh, buh,
Bush? You're almost making me like the son-of-a-bitch. ahahahahahahah
Elmo
//////////
who wouldn't be a little fearful at these over-reactions? What next
after the electric flying water bombs but perhaps an Acid attack on the
Red Leaf goose pond? I wonder if that wouldn't create lots of
"collateral packing" in the ranks of the millions of Americans waiting
on the fudge-mired bridge at the Canadian border (so they can get
married with each other). (These wouldn't be regular force, Elmo?...)
8-)
Cactus Jammies
(and Elmo used the 'Buh...buh..buh..' .word too, which he knows really
sets
me off - CJ )
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26648-41DEA33E-876@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... Millions of
Americans have joined the fight against the maple syrup warriors from
the North. It's a war of attrition, the Canadians have misjudged their
supply of the gooey substance and are in danger of running out.
Meanwhile, on the American side, hundreds of thousands of fresh troops
clad in raincoats and ball caps fire up their squirt guns at the
outmanned enemy at all major border crossings. Many can be seen standing
just a few feet apart locked in mortal combat, guns blazing. President
Bush has authorized the use of special 'hydro' bombs that would drop
millions of gallons of Kool-Aid at one time. The bombs were being loaded
onto strategic bombers and ICBM's early this morning. A.E. Newman
(on-the-scene reporter)
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Cactus Jammies
waving bye bye
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hasta la vista.........
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