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Please Explain This To Me, Alis?

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Firebird - 01 Jan 2005 21:16 GMT
Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:

PATONG BEACH, Thailand (Reuters) - People held candles and white roses on the
tsunami-hit island of Phuket, tearfully embracing as they grieved, in a
poignant symbol of the mood which darkened New Year celebrations across the
globe.

Now can you explain this to me, Alis, yaknow what with these folks being
Buddhists and believing in re-incarnation, what are they grieving about? Don't
they know that these dead folks will be re-incarnated as Cholera germs and will
surely thrive during their next incarnation.

Can you explain this cunundrum to me, Alis? After all, you are so good at these
questions of faith.
tiresias - 01 Jan 2005 21:27 GMT
>Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
>
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>Can you explain this cunundrum to me, Alis? After all, you are so good at these
>questions of faith.

T----A professed English buddhist I know fulfilled his lif's dream a
couple of years ago by travelling around India visiting religious
bodies of all kinds on a research of environmentalism and
spirituality. He was deeply impressed with the practical charitable
projects that were being worked at by the christian groups, ashrams
and communities and was disillusioned that his idealised "spiritual"
buddhists and hindus were not doing anything to help alleviate the
awesome suffering and privation. There were one or two hindu groups
that actaully did helpful things and they modelled themselves on the
christians.

Personally I believe that belief is stupefying.
Susie Quill - 02 Jan 2005 00:44 GMT
>>Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
>>
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>
> Personally I believe that belief is stupefying.

I think you are right.  These are beautiful religions, however, they seem to
believe that whatever they are born in to is what they are supposed to go
thru and the persons choice.  Therefore, their cultures have not progressed
in
to making their whole society better for everyone.
Also, it never made sense to me to honor cattle and not eat them when people
are going hungry.  Not sure which one of
those religions that is.  They are doing a lot more with milking and
distributing the milk now though.
Susie
Alias - 01 Jan 2005 23:04 GMT
: Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
: Can you explain this cunundrum to me, Alis? After all, you are so good at these
: questions of faith.

People who believe that you go to heaven grieve their lost ones too. Do you
always ask rhetorical questions like "Have you stopped beating your wife
yet?" Do you have any idea how that makes you look?
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Waterspider - 02 Jan 2005 00:42 GMT
> Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
>
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> the
> globe.

Yeah, CNN featured it too... I wondered how those people could find all
those perfect white roses when most of the country can't find drinking
water.
Susie Quill - 03 Jan 2005 10:30 GMT
In Thailand, it isn't "most" of the country that can't find drinking water.
It is just along the coast that they had problems and Thailand is a big
country with a big interior that wasn't touched by the tsunami directly.
They are all affected though, because it is still a big disaster, but the
only ones whose homes and businesses are gone and those that died, were
along the coast.  Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Susie

>> Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> those perfect white roses when most of the country can't find drinking
> water.
Agua Girl - 03 Jan 2005 16:45 GMT
> In Thailand, it isn't "most" of the country that can't find drinking water.
> It is just along the coast that they had problems and Thailand is a big
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> along the coast.  Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
> Susie

No, you are right.  Unfortunately as with most countries,
the coastline is heavily populated.  It's a huge
source of income, it's where the largest percentage of
the resorts are so they lost a huge tourism income.  When
I took oceanography in college (quite a few years ago)
there was a staggering percentage of the worlds population
that lived within 2 miles of the coastline.

BTW...drinking water is a large part of the relief aid so
while it's not coming out of the tap, it is becoming
available as fast as humanely possible.  The difficulty
lies in getting anything into the remote villages.  Roads
into them weren't much more than trails to begin
with..now they have to clear tons of debris just to
the trucks (and aid) close enough to help.

Maybe what we should be sending is jet skis?

AG
Waterspider - 03 Jan 2005 21:50 GMT
> In Thailand, it isn't "most" of the country that can't find drinking
> water. It is just along the coast that they had problems and Thailand is a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that died, were along the coast.  Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
> Susie

Okay, but if, anywhere in Thailand, they have water to keep those white
roses so fresh, don't you see a bit of irony?

Waterspider

>>> Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> those perfect white roses when most of the country can't find drinking
>> water.
Susie Quill - 04 Jan 2005 09:09 GMT
>> In Thailand, it isn't "most" of the country that can't find drinking
>> water. It is just along the coast that they had problems and Thailand is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Waterspider

I get what you are saying.  However, If the first two miles along the edge
of California were swept clean by a tsunami, I'm sure they would still have
drinking water in Omaha.
Florist in Omaha would be busy sending flowers out to all of the people in
Omaha that had relatives living along the coast line in California.
Getting the drinking water from Omaha to the California
coast line might be a problem..

I lived in Texas for several years, and hurricanes that hit the Gulf don't
have any affect on the Texas Panhandle.

In other areas though, such as the Maldives (did I spell that right) small
flat islands lost almost everybody, because the tsunamis swept over the
whole land mass, apparently..
Susie

>>>> Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
>>>>
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>>> those perfect white roses when most of the country can't find drinking
>>> water.
Alias - 02 Jan 2005 15:00 GMT
We just received a report from the affected area and no member of our sect
of Buddhism perished and all are accounted for ...
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: Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
: Can you explain this cunundrum to me, Alis? After all, you are so good at these
: questions of faith.
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 02 Jan 2005 15:06 GMT
Since your sect is based on intolerance of others that don't think they
way they do, this would be a good time for them to massacre the rest of
the Buddhists, Muslims and other religions in Thailand and Sumatra.  You
could volunteer yourself as a suicide bomber, Cody.  
Elmo
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Hey Alis, while browsing Reuters News I came across this article:
PATONG BEACH, Thailand (Reuters) - People held candles and white roses
on the tsunami-hit island of Phuket, tearfully embracing as they
grieved, in a poignant symbol of the mood which darkened New Year
celebrations across the globe.
Now can you explain this to me, Alis, yaknow what with these folks being
Buddhists and believing in re-incarnation, what are they grieving about?
Don't they know that these dead folks will be re-incarnated as Cholera
germs and will surely thrive during their next incarnation.
Can you explain this cunundrum to me, Alis? After all, you are so good
at these questions of faith.

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Alias - 02 Jan 2005 15:28 GMT
: Since your sect is based on intolerance of others that don't think they
: way they do, this would be a good time for them to massacre the rest of
: the Buddhists, Muslims and other religions in Thailand and Sumatra.  You
: could volunteer yourself as a suicide bomber, Cody.
: Elmo
: /////////

Um, we do tolerate other religions, even if we think they are misleading
and/or false. I personally believe in religious freedom and so does the sect
I belong to. We do not believe in killing like Bush and your ilk does, nor
do we believe in being suicide bombers so you were saying?
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: We just received a report from the affected area and no member of our
: sect of Buddhism perished and all are accounted for ...
Waterspider - 02 Jan 2005 22:04 GMT
<snippage>

. I personally believe in religious freedom

Cody, I was gonna nail you on this one. Then I realized that religious
freedom theoretically includes the right to dis someone else's religion.

Spidey
Alias - 02 Jan 2005 22:57 GMT
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: Spidey

Yep, so does Freedom of Speech, something else I believe in.
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tobeesure@webtv.net - 04 Jan 2005 04:05 GMT
in regards to your "Sect" , Alias. You should have been surfing over
there, dude! Randy
 
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