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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / January 2005What a difference a day makes!
Today was just a complete turn around from what I have been experiencing. It was such a good day today, it felt good just to be alive, pain or no pain.I had an appt with my doc today,(not the hepc doc). After my appt. I had lunch on an outdoor patio there and it was spectacular.Imagine this. Tripler hospital is on top of a large hill overlooking Honolulu, Pearl Harbor, the airport, and Diamond Head, which is an extinct volcano.There was not a cloud in the sky, 80 degrees, slight breeze, a perfect day. While eating my sandwich, it hit me like a brick. God, I' so lucky to be here, now, and alive. Suddenly I paid attention to the birds feeding nearby(there are some beauties in Hawaii) the greenery, and a few butterflies, and I thought to myself, this must be what they mean when they say to stop and smell the roses.I did just that today, and it was good. Yes, my hip was throbbing from the walk, but it didn't seem so important.This was the kind of day that I'd like to see many more of. I know that I have shared some pretty heavy sh.t I have been dealing with lately, and so I wanted to share this with you all as well. Its funny that barely 24 hours ago I'd wished I was dead, and today I was blessed with this wonderful feeling.I wanted to capture this moment, and keep it forever. Yes I was stuck in 2 traffic jams today as well, and a long line at the post office,but somehow those things seemed so minor and trivial, it did not detract from the moment.Well, for me its been a long and satisfying day, and I'm tired. Time for a little Pakololo(literally crazy smoke in Hawaiian) some t.v. and then bed. My thanks to all of you who have put up with my bullshit, and showing me patience and understanding. Maholo(thanks) and aloha from Hawaii. John > Today was just a complete turn around from what I have been experiencing. > It [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Maholo(thanks) and aloha from Hawaii. > John Wow! Sounds neat. Are you actually living at Tripler? I took classes their in computer, years ago. I remember it being an awesome view. Funny the difference a day makes. : ) Susie Hi Susie, no, I do not live there. Though sometimes it seems that way. Remember this is where the VA is, so I must come here frequently. It is indeed an awesome view. Just being there is stimulating.It is where I go for a lot of test procedures, and it is where I spent a week in the hospital last February. Later! Hope you have a nice Thanksgiving. I've been invited to have dinner with a family over in Kailua. Looking foreword to it. John > Wow! Sounds neat. Are you actually living at Tripler? > I took classes their in computer, years ago. I remember it being an awesome > view. Funny the difference a day makes. > : ) > Susie You have alot to be thankful for, John, as do most of us. Your viral load is down and you get to spend Thanksgiving with people that care about you. What more could you ask for, unless that those less fortunate than you, or us, could be blessed too? Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday of the year. Aint nothing better than turkey, stuffing, yams and pie, unless it's the salt of the earth being tossed around so freely!!!!! Enjoy your holiday, John! Elmo ///////////// Hi Susie, no, I do not live there. Though sometimes it seems that way. Remember this is where the VA is, so I must come here frequently. It is indeed an awesome view. Just being there is stimulating.It is where I go for a lot of test procedures, and it is where I spent a week in the hospital last February. Later! Hope you have a nice Thanksgiving. I've been invited to have dinner with a family over in Kailua. Looking foreword to it. John Wow! Sounds neat. Are you actually living at Tripler? I took classes their in computer, years ago. I remember it being an awesome view. Funny the difference a day makes. Susie http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum :-) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum funny what that shitty chemo can teach you eh???  SignatureRuss Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > Today was just a complete turn around from what I have been experiencing. It > was such a good day today, it felt good just to be alive, pain or no pain.I [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Maholo(thanks) and aloha from Hawaii. > John Good to hear from you John. I was getting worried. Since i became laid back on tx I started watching birds. I still spend lots of hours bird watching, I lure them with seed, humming bird feeders, bread crumbs, I also still have Canadian Geese that are staying the winter. They are much a part of my life. Its the simple things that count and they are all around. Shot day is always a bummer. No 2 shots are the same. Some hit harder and some only knock lightly. I was always awake for 3 days after so I had lots of time to bird watch except at night then I would spend time trapping wild cats. Taking pictures of racoons, and Possums on the porch. Oh I met several bears that year on tx. It was Amazing all I missed when I sleeping. On tx I also watched the road and the insane oakey neighbors and all sorts of stuff going on all night long....... Hey Brian, if you reading or lurking. hehehehe LOL You called that cat frazzelpuss. Right. Any way I am rambling on as usual. Glad to hear you doing better John. Birds always cheer me up. Hugs Juanita I'm almost afraid to ask Juanita, but curiosity compels me, what do you mean when you say you trap wildcats? What becomes of these animals you have trapped? I'm sure you are not a cruel person, so I assume you release them somewhere nearby. You are lucky to have so many animals in your area. That is one thing I loved about California. The diversity of wildlife there. Do you do this to protect the birds that you watch? Is there any practical way you can share some of your better photographs of critters you have taken pictures of? That would be so neat. John > Good to hear from you John. I was getting worried. Since i became laid > back on tx I started watching birds. I still spend lots of hours bird [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > doing better John. Birds always cheer me up. Hugs > Juanita She likes to shoot beaver, John. ahahahahhhahah sorry, JV, you know I'm just kidding. I've been told there can be bears hanging around and that after dark you shoot to kill. eh? Elmo ///////// I'm almost afraid to ask Juanita, but curiosity compels me, what do you mean when you say you trap wildcats? What becomes of these animals you have trapped? I'm sure you are not a cruel person, so I assume you release them somewhere nearby. You are lucky to have so many animals in your area. That is one thing I loved about California. The diversity of wildlife there. Do you do this to protect the birds that you watch? Is there any practical way you can share some of your better photographs of critters you have taken pictures of? That would be so neat. John "JV" <Meling333@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5241-419E5320-84@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net... Good to hear from you John. I was getting worried. Since i became laid back on tx I started watching birds. I still spend lots of hours bird watching, I lure them with seed, humming bird feeders, bread crumbs, I also still have Canadian Geese that are staying the winter. They are much a part of my life. Its the simple things that count and they are all around. Shot day is always a bummer. No 2 shots are the same. Some hit harder and some only knock lightly. I was always awake for 3 days after so I had lots of time to bird watch except at night then I would spend time trapping wild cats. Taking pictures of racoons, and Possums on the porch. Oh I met several bears that year on tx. It was Amazing all I missed when I sleeping. On tx I also watched the road and the insane oakey neighbors and all sorts of stuff going on all night long....... Hey Brian, if you reading or lurking. hehehehe LOL You called that cat frazzelpuss. Right. Any way I am rambling on as usual. Glad to hear you doing better John. Birds always cheer me up. Hugs Juanita http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Hi John sorry I took so long to answer posts. Been a long weekend and today I was in Sac with my old tx Dr. Pimstone. He also referred me to a Ufologist in UC in Sacramento. I'm still keeping my UC San Francisco apt 12/1 for this kidney deal. I've had this going on since interferon cooked a hole in my kidney. 1 in a half centimeter, a lesion 2 years ago with continued problems since. So I guess I have to really dig deep find a second wind to see MORE Drs. I'm so sick of them all. Presently I have a urinary track infection and started taking Septra today for it. It never ends. When it comes to wild cats, these are cats that come after your own personal pets. This Frazzelpuss was not happy sharing the food with my cats it wanted my cats dead. Especially PeanutButter he is my baby fat cat of almost 8 years and a dear friend of mine. Frazzlepuss wanted to kill my kitties even the girls. It got so bad I couldn't hardly let Peanut out no more. Frazelpuss was a killer and I had to stop him. Or my Peanut wasn't going to be around long and I was on tx and needed my cat with me all the time. I got all the kitties feeding in a steal cage for a week. Even Frazelpuss started going in the cage to eat too. One nite I wired the cage with fishing line and waited in my recliner and here came Frazelpuss at 1am, I pulled the fishing line and door slammed shut. I jumped up went out to the porch an flipped the cage upside down I wired it shut with about 10 pipe cleaners. Frazzle went round and round making weird noises, all my cats came to watch and sat down for the show. That cat smelled as bad as a bear it was bad. I called a neighbor who later shot the thing. Sometimes their half bobcat and regular house cat. These are even worse and I had 1 or 2 of them back in 1997. I have just got my camera out and will take some pictures. :). See ya round Juanita > I got all the kitties feeding in a steal cage for a week. Even > Frazelpuss started going in the cage to eat too. One nite I wired the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > These are even worse and I had 1 or 2 of them back in 1997. I have just > got my camera out and will take some pictures. :). See ya round Juanita OMG.....you're neighbor shot the cat??? That's horrible. First off, the cat was not a "killer"...it was feral. Even bob cats, lions etc are not "killers". They are wild. The instinct is to protect your territory (and the food it provides). It's not just killing for the fun of it...it's doing what cats do naturally. Curious? do your cats kill birds, mice etc when they are out? if so, do you consider them "killers"? Secondly...we starting infringing on their territory long before they started infringing on ours. I keep my cats in at night and when I am not home. It's safer for them and I don't have to kill all the local wild life. Lastly...there are rescue groups that will "relocate" feral cats. They usually spay or neuter them first which cuts down on the feral cat population without having to destroy the animal. I'm sorry, I know you were doing what you felt needed to be done to protect your own and am not "judging" you for it but there are better more humane ways to handle this kind of problem. Just the opinion of an animal lover (and a cat owner). AG A normal wild cat would not move in on 5 cats. This one was deranged. When my animals are ripped and torn and bleeding, from being attacked some one has to do something about it. Animal control just laughs because the problem is so great they never even come out. all they do is provide you with a cage.. Its people dumping cats off on dirt roads that become wild, in the form of kill off all compitation for a food bowl cause they are starving. This cat was weird and moved in on 5 other cats. It was not happy to share the food it wanted it all. Not to mention the disease's it carries also. Same as for when a bear makes a home destroying you green house, cars, buildings, fruit trees, and garden. and more. it gets shot too. No one wants to shot them it just gets dangerous out in the sticks and expensive. Same goes for mountain lions, when they start hanging around where children play, well they go to. Its just the pecking order of the forest. The cat dumping issue is one of the worst up here. My cats should not have to put up with misfits like that they are all nice and loving and still alive thanks to me. Juanita Feral cats? They're all feral as far as I'm concerned. Get my gun, I'll shoot all the little bastards. I lived in a housing development on a lake in Jersey. When some of the residents moved in, they brought their 'outside' cats with them. In the beginning, the cats were merely a nuisance peeing on bushes and the lawn and such. The real wildlife around the lake began to suffer. The 'outside' cats developed a taste for duck eggs and chicks. Now there are hardly any ducks that hang around the lake, the only ones that come around are in transit. The predatory cats aren't part of the natural ecology, yet have a major impact on the environment. I can't let my dog run loose, why should cats be allowed to? There must be a dozen cats running around my neighborhood, Heidi barks at em almost every time I let her out (fenced in yard). If I didn't live inside the city limits, all those 'outside' cats would be history. LOL. Blam, blam, blam!!!!!! Elmo (devoted environmentalist) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Hi I know just how you feel Elmo when cats run wild. Cat problems. Never ending. Peanut and his brother are well educated cats with degrees. They know right from wrong.LOLOLOL The cat was a killer, AG any male cat that wants female cats dead and out of the way is not normal. Yes the cat was shot. Quick and no suffering. There was no getting near it. I gave it a few weeks of food but it insisted on being the only cat to the point where mine could not eat outside or go outside without getting beat up. Mine were willing to share. But the demented one was not. Normal wild cats don't try to move in they got better things to do. If you don't have some control over where you live you wont have your special pets around. A few years back a mountain lion killed a lady jogging in Auburn lake trails. She left children behind and a hole family who needed her. That cat was hunted down by fish an game and shot. My cats seldom kill birds, their too fat and lazy and would rather have real food. They are very spoiled socialized cats. I also keep them in at nite and when I am gone. If these strays showed up at your place wanting to eat your pets, I know or hope you wouldn't exposure them to getting their a.s whipped by some mean killer inbred cat. I'm not infringing on their territory they are dumped by humans. There are no rescue groups that will deal with such a problem they don't got time. They are interested in Bald Eagles, and animals on the edge of extinction. If i thought there was another way I would take it. Its just the law of the land out here. Any way there is always sacrifice and 1 deranged cats life is not worth 5 good cats who stay home. Juanita > Hi > I know just how you feel Elmo when cats run wild. Cat problems. Never [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > you don't have some control over where you live you wont have your > special pets around. Actually normal wild cats do exactly what this one was doing. They don't know when they are going to eat again, aren't used to a constant source of food like your pets are so they stake out their territory and protect the food within it by killing off the competition. This is typical animal behaviour. You keep compaing it to your cats but your cats are domestic....this cat is wild. Not demented, not "a killer"..just wild. I understand you wanting to protect your cats and I don't have a problem with that. It's just there are other ways. You said you trapped it and then your neighbor shot it. Once it is trapped the preferred method is to find a rescue group that deals with feral cats and ask them to come and get it. Not the local humane society...they don't have the means...but there are groups in a lot of areas that do. Maybe you don't have one near you and then I suppose humanely destroying the animal is the only solution but it should be after exhausting all other possibilities. This animal has as much "right" to do what comes natural as any other. > A few years back a mountain lion killed a lady jogging in Auburn lake > trails. She left children behind and a hole family who needed her. That > cat was hunted down by fish an game and shot. Again, we moved into their territory. Mountain lions were roaming the hills around me long before they decided to build housing tracts. We are pushing them out of their "homes". I am sorry about the woman jogger, sorry for her kids...also sorry for the cat. It's a shame that we have to make the decision of them versus us. Sorry that there aren't enough open areas left so that these problem animals can't be relocated to an area where they won't come in contact with people. It's a different issue than feral cats though who don't pose the same kind of threat to humans and can be relocated. > My cats seldom kill birds, their too fat and lazy and would rather have > real food. They are very spoiled socialized cats. I also keep them in at > nite and when I am gone. Seldom? So they have? The reason I asked about the birds is because stalking them, killing them...even eating them (yech) is what cats do naturally. I don't like it when my cat does it but I accept it's her natural instinct. There are however bird lovers (cat haters) out there that would shoot my cat to protect those birds....which of course is basically what you had to do with that feral cat. > If these strays showed up at your place wanting to eat your pets, I know > or hope you wouldn't exposure them to getting their a.s whipped by some > mean killer inbred cat. I'm not infringing on their territory they are > dumped by humans. Again...it's not a killer inbred deranged psycho cat. That's what wild animals do. They stake out a territory and protect the food within that territory from the competition. Don't give it human traits and don't compare it to your domestic cats. They are willing to share because they know the food source will always be there. They haven't had to develop their survival instincts. And for the record, most cats that are "dumped" are just stray. They will fight but then so will most non neutered domestic cats and even some that are.. but they aren't as territorial and can usually be "reminded" of what it is like to be a pet. I have actually tamed wild strays, fostered them until they were used to being handled (maybe not liking it but at least accepting it) and then rehomed them. What you are describing is a feral cat. They usually have never had human contact. Maybe the off spring of some cat that was dumped but unlikely to have been dumped itself. I know you didn't build your house their where the cat used to live, but the human population is indeed taking over all the open areas and not leaving a lot of room for wild animals (like feral cats and mountain lions) to survive. Wild animals are only a problem when they come in contact with us...and the more we spread out the greater the chance is for that to happen. > There are no rescue groups that will deal with such a problem they don't > got time. > They are interested in Bald Eagles, and animals on the edge of > extinction. Did you look? Where do you live? We have several rescue groups that will not only take a trapped feral cat but will provide you with the trap. You would be surprised at the number of different types of rescue groups out there. They aren't all saving bald eagles and manatees. > If i thought there was another way I would take it. Its just the law of > the land out here. Any way there is always sacrifice and 1 deranged cats > life is not worth 5 good cats who stay home. Juanita Well, I was just offering the suggestion that if you ever face a similar situation there may indeed be another way. I quick search on the internet for Feral Cat Rescue might turn up one in your area. I understand you putting your cats welfare above the wild ones. I am not sure you realize that the wild cat was doing what cats do naturally.. just like when your cat kills a bird. AG Re: What a difference a day makes! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2004, 9:46am (CST-2) From: uknown@spamblock.net (Agua Girl) "JV" <Meling333@webtv.net> wrote in message news:10267-41A38C1C-173@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... Hi I know just how you feel Elmo when cats run wild. Cat problems. Never ending. Peanut and his brother are well educated cats with degrees. They know right from wrong.LOLOLOL The cat was a killer, AG any male cat that wants female cats dead and out of the way is not normal. Yes the cat was shot. Quick and no suffering. There was no getting near it. I gave it a few weeks of food but it insisted on being the only cat to the point where mine could not eat outside or go outside without getting beat up. Mine were willing to share. But the demented one was not. Normal wild cats don't try to move in they got better things to do. If you don't have some control over where you live you wont have your special pets around. Actually normal wild cats do exactly what this one was doing. They don't know when they are going to eat again, aren't used to a constant source of food like your pets are so they stake out their territory and protect the food within it by killing off the competition. This is typical animal behaviour. You keep compaing it to your cats but your cats are domestic....this cat is wild. Not demented, not "a killer"..just wild. I understand you wanting to protect your cats and I don't have a problem with that. It's just there are other ways. You said you trapped it and then your neighbor shot it. Once it is trapped the preferred method is to find a rescue group that deals with feral cats and ask them to come and get it. Not the local humane society...they don't have the means...but there are groups in a lot of areas that do. Maybe you don't have one near you and then I suppose humanely destroying the animal is the only solution but it should be after exhausting all other possibilities. This animal has as much "right" to do what comes natural as any other. A few years back a mountain lion killed a lady jogging in Auburn lake trails. She left children behind and a hole family who needed her. That cat was hunted down by fish an game and shot. Again, we moved into their territory. Mountain lions were roaming the hills around me long before they decided to build housing tracts. We are pushing them out of their "homes". I am sorry about the woman jogger, sorry for her kids...also sorry for the cat. It's a shame that we have to make the decision of them versus us. Sorry that there aren't enough open areas left so that these problem animals can't be relocated to an area where they won't come in contact with people. It's a different issue than feral cats though who don't pose the same kind of threat to humans and can be relocated. My cats seldom kill birds, their too fat and lazy and would rather have real food. They are very spoiled socialized cats. I also keep them in at nite and when I am gone. Seldom? So they have? The reason I asked about the birds is because stalking them, killing them...even eating them (yech) is what cats do naturally. I don't like it when my cat does it but I accept it's her natural instinct. There are however bird lovers (cat haters) out there that would shoot my cat to protect those birds....which of course is basically what you had to do with that feral cat. If these strays showed up at your place wanting to eat your pets, I know or hope you wouldn't exposure them to getting their a.s whipped by some mean killer inbred cat. I'm not infringing on their territory they are dumped by humans. Again...it's not a killer inbred deranged psycho cat. That's what wild animals do. They stake out a territory and protect the food within that territory from the competition. Don't give it human traits and don't compare it to your domestic cats. They are willing to share because they know the food source will always be there. They haven't had to develop their survival instincts. And for the record, most cats that are "dumped" are just stray. They will fight but then so will most non neutered domestic cats and even some that are.. but they aren't as territorial and can usually be "reminded" of what it is like to be a pet. I have actually tamed wild strays, fostered them until they were used to being handled (maybe not liking it but at least accepting it) and then rehomed them. What you are describing is a feral cat. They usually have never had human contact. Maybe the off spring of some cat that was dumped but unlikely to have been dumped itself. I know you didn't build your house their where the cat used to live, but the human population is indeed taking over all the open areas and not leaving a lot of room for wild animals (like feral cats and mountain lions) to survive. Wild animals are only a problem when they come in contact with us...and the more we spread out the greater the chance is for that to happen. There are no rescue groups that will deal with such a problem they don't got time. They are interested in Bald Eagles, and animals on the edge of extinction. Did you look? Where do you live? We have several rescue groups that will not only take a trapped feral cat but will provide you with the trap. You would be surprised at the number of different types of rescue groups out there. They aren't all saving bald eagles and manatees. If i thought there was another way I would take it. Its just the law of the land out here. Any way there is always sacrifice and 1 deranged cats life is not worth 5 good cats who stay home. Juanita Well, I was just offering the suggestion that if you ever face a similar situation there may indeed be another way. I quick search on the internet for Feral Cat Rescue might turn up one in your area. I understand you putting your cats welfare above the wild ones. I am not sure you realize that the wild cat was doing what cats do naturally.. just like when your cat kills a bird. AG /////////// BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!!! AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum and the human was doing what it does naturaly Blam Blam Blam Blam!!!! Did you get it Elmo? Ahhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm I think you did. Lets go look. hehe Almost certainly, JV. I rarely miss. I started shooting a target rifle when I was 10. Wait a minute, I think I see another one. Blam! Yeeehaww!! In a few more days, we'll have enough to make you a cat skin coat. Gotta go and take these dead ones over to the Chinese restaurant. They make General Chao's chicken out of em. Elmo //////// and the human was doing what it does naturaly Blam Blam Blam Blam!!!! Did you get it Elmo? Ahhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm I think you did. Lets go look. hehe http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum I'm looking foreward to my coat. I presume once it is cleaned the smell will leave. I would prefer full length so it might take a extra 20 or so cause I will be wearing nothing under it just for you. Happy T Day................ Hugs Juanita It should be waist length if you're not going to have anything on underneath it, JV. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Don't forget about that old acoustic in the closet. It may need some new "Cat Gut" strings!!! haahhahahaha!!!! SignatureShawn > Almost certainly, JV. I rarely miss. I started shooting a target rifle > when I was 10. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum I guess it would work if I shoved the cat's tail and back feet into the bridge and wind it's ears and whiskers onto the tuning pegs. Should I kill the cat first? Elmo ////// Don't forget about that old acoustic in the closet. It may need some new "Cat Gut" strings!!! haahhahahaha!!!! SignatureShawn <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16180-41A5EA1C-882@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... Almost certainly, JV. I rarely miss. I started shooting a target rifle when I was 10. Wait a minute, I think I see another one. Blam! Yeeehaww!! In a few more days, we'll have enough to make you a cat skin coat. Gotta go and take these dead ones over to the Chinese restaurant. They make General Chao's chicken out of em. Elmo //////// and the human was doing what it does naturaly Blam Blam Blam Blam!!!! Did you get it Elmo? Ahhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm I think you did. Lets go look. hehe http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum I think I am going to be a non-responder on this string. Bait away you pistoleros! Juanita, I now accept you for what you say you are, an ambusher of small beasts with big hearts! Cat hat size 7 1/2 available at all big rig outlets. Cactus Jammies >I guess it would work if I shoved the cat's tail and back feet into the > bridge and wind it's ears and whiskers onto the tuning pegs. Should I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Don't forget about that old acoustic in the closet. It may need some new > "Cat Gut" strings!!! haahhahahaha!!!! I didn't live inside the city limits, all those 'outside' cats would be history. LOL. Blam, blam, blam!!!!!! Elmo (devoted ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ I strongly suggest you get a cage and start trapping. It will make such a difference for restablishing the natural ecology of the environment. If you live near a animal shelter you can drop them off. If you hadn't just moved there I am sure there are neighbors that also hate the cat problem. Poor baby ducks never had a chance. Not to mention all the eggs in trees too that them cats got.., lake frogs, anything that moves. See this is what out of control cats do to a environment. Its everywhere my friends work for Animal Control down south. They are so swamped with so many lose running around animals. So many get youthinized she says it really sad. :( A nice balance is best. Juanita Re: What a difference a day makes! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 12:24pm (CST-2) From: Meling333@webtv.net (JV) I didn't live inside the city limits, all those 'outside' cats would be history. LOL. Blam, blam, blam!!!!!! Elmo (devoted ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ I strongly suggest you get a cage and start trapping. It will make such a difference for restablishing the natural ecology of the environment. If you live near a animal shelter you can drop them off. If you hadn't just moved there I am sure there are neighbors that also hate the cat problem. Poor baby ducks never had a chance. Not to mention all the eggs in trees too that them cats got.., lake frogs, anything that moves. See this is what out of control cats do to a environment. Its everywhere my friends work for Animal Control down south. They are so swamped with so many lose running around animals. So many get youthinized she says it really sad. :( A nice balance is best. Juanita //////////// Maybe I'll look into a silencer for the old .22. :-) Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Most of those rescue groups wont take the time to mess with an aggressive older mail. They euthinise it. Shooting is a lot less painful for the poor thing than most of the so called"humane" methods used. I have tamed Farrell cats, sorta. the odds are better for young ones. older toms are sometimes quite viscous. The best thing is to catch and release them your self if you can, if not well. As much as I love all cats me and mine would come first. zoe > > I got all the kitties feeding in a steal cage for a week. Even > > Frazelpuss started going in the cage to eat too. One nite I wired the [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > AG Mind if I come goose hunting over at your place, Juanita? I'll only shoot a few of em. :-) Elmo ///////// Good to hear from you John. I was getting worried. Since i became laid back on tx I started watching birds. I still spend lots of hours bird watching, I lure them with seed, humming bird feeders, bread crumbs, I also still have Canadian Geese that are staying the winter. They are much a part of my life. Its the simple things that count and they are all around. Shot day is always a bummer. No 2 shots are the same. Some hit harder and some only knock lightly. I was always awake for 3 days after so I had lots of time to bird watch except at night then I would spend time trapping wild cats. Taking pictures of racoons, and Possums on the porch. Oh I met several bears that year on tx. It was Amazing all I missed when I sleeping. On tx I also watched the road and the insane oakey neighbors and all sorts of stuff going on all night long....... Hey Brian, if you reading or lurking. hehehehe LOL You called that cat frazzelpuss. Right. Any way I am rambling on as usual. Glad to hear you doing better John. Birds always cheer me up. Hugs Juanita http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Glad to hear you had a good day. Hope many more are coming your way. I am not 100% yet but there is such a big jump after that first week of being off tx that it almost seems like it. I went and got what hair I have left cut again. The stylist was running way late, I ended up sitting around the salon for 45 minutes after the conditioning waiting for the cut. 3 weeks ago 5 minutes would have sent me over the edge but I was perfectly fine just chillin...watching the crowd pass by. It wasn't until I was driving home that I realized how much better I am...after just 1 week of no drugs. Sadly...the hair is still falling out. What we need is Sinead to bring back the shaven head style for women :-) AG (still waiting for results) give a month, your hair will grow back healthy. Mine hair was like coarse gray straw. 6 months later LOTS of the gray went away and the coarseness went away. My fingernails were really soft and weak for a while too, but they are getting stronger. SignatureRuss Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > Glad to hear you had a good day. Hope many > more are coming your way. I am not 100% yet [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > AG (still waiting for results) > Today was just a complete turn around from what I have been experiencing. It > was such a good day today, it felt good just to be alive, pain or no pain.I [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Maholo(thanks) and aloha from Hawaii. > John Hey! Long time, sorry John. I do get so caught up in my work when I'm off the sabatical. Anyway glad to see your doing better. I will be in touch soon. For my EM just add an s to kim and the rest is the same. (elmo, FYI as well) John, you're in my good thoughts and I wish the best for you. As for the itch- though may not be the best thing for you, try a histamine or ask if it would be alright. Oatmeal, calamine. I dunno what to suggest???? Just hope it goes away. Good Luck with all your going through, and don't worry, I didn't forget you or anyone else. Take Care, Kim Elmo what a bout a potato silencer, also a night vision sight would be nice also. Their quite interesting to look through at night. All the animals eyes glow like a full moons. Vigilante LOL It does seem like your work is cut out for ya. hehe Juanita Yeah, Elmo the cat vigilante! I got it figured out, Juanita. A crossbow and night vision goggles along with cammys and a blackened face and stocking cap and leather gloves like OJ's. It's going to be cloudy tonight....no moon. Elmo //////////// Elmo what a bout a potato silencer, also a night vision sight would be nice also. Their quite interesting to look through at night. All the animals eyes glow like a full moons. Vigilante LOL It does seem like your work is cut out for ya. hehe Juanita http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum grinding your gears again, eh Elmo? You leave those freaking cats alone! Cactus Jammies Yeah, Elmo the cat vigilante! I got it figured out, Juanita. A crossbow and night vision goggles along with cammys and a blackened face and stocking cap and leather gloves like OJ's. It's going to be cloudy tonight....no moon. Elmo //////////// Elmo what a bout a potato silencer, also a night vision sight would be nice also. Their quite interesting to look through at night. All the animals eyes glow like a full moons. Vigilante LOL It does seem like your work is cut out for ya. hehe Juanita http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum It's great sport, CJ! Elmo ///////// grinding your gears again, eh Elmo? You leave those freaking cats alone! Cactus Jammies <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message news:13327-41A4C181-790@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... Yeah, Elmo the cat vigilante! I got it figured out, Juanita. A crossbow and night vision goggles along with cammys and a blackened face and stocking cap and leather gloves like OJ's. It's going to be cloudy tonight....no moon. Elmo //////////// Elmo what a bout a potato silencer, also a night vision sight would be nice also. Their quite interesting to look through at night. All the animals eyes glow like a full moons. Vigilante LOL It does seem like your work is cut out for ya. hehe Juanita http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum On the next full moon we be camo clothed, and pretend the things were hunting are Hepatitis C virus's. About the coat I shal now be fully clothed if it makes the coat longer. Now that I thought about it all day I want it floor length now. Is that ok? Juanita Re: What a difference a day makes! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Nov 25, 2004, 4:29pm (CST-2) From: Meling333@webtv.net (JV) On the next full moon we be camo clothed, and pretend the things were hunting are Hepatitis C virus's. About the coat I shal now be fully clothed if it makes the coat longer. Now that I thought about it all day I want it floor length now. Is that ok? Juanita /////////////// Sure it's ok! Pass the ammo, please. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Its really heavy were gonna need a bucket loader to haul it over to our bunker. We got 10,000 rounds of assorted. 30/30 ,12 Gage, 38, 22s, 44s, 380s, 20/20,357mag. There is soooo much I cant remember the rest. Im looking forward to my coat. See U at dusk. Juanita Re: What a difference a day makes! Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Nov 25, 2004, 10:08pm (CST-2) From: Meling333@webtv.net (JV) Its really heavy were gonna need a bucket loader to haul it over to our bunker. We got 10,000 rounds of assorted. 30/30 ,12 Gage, 38, 22s, 44s, 380s, 20/20,357mag. There is soooo much I cant remember the rest. Im looking forward to my coat. See U at dusk. Juanita /////////// Just bring the .22 ammo. That's what my pop-gun uses. Besides, if we gun em with anything bigger, your coat will be pretty 'airy'. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Just bring the .22 ammo. That's what my pop-gun uses. Besides, if we gun em with anything bigger, your coat will be pretty 'airy'. Elmo ¬ ¬¬ ¬¬ ¬¬ ¬ ¬ ¬¬ ¬¬ ¬¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ Airy i dont want no stinking airy coat. an I dont need no f.cking badges either. I thought they were 20Lb or better cats. I am shocked I will exchange all the stuff for 22s. Any thing else befor I go. L J stop pissing around and use the 12, already! Boom Boom both barrels Talking turkey and dead kitties is a travesty. Cactus Jammies in a fit of sarcasm Just bring the .22 ammo. That's what my pop-gun uses. Besides, if we gun em with anything bigger, your coat will be pretty 'airy'. Elmo ? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Airy i dont want no stinking airy coat. an I dont need no f.cking badges either. I thought they were 20Lb or better cats. I am shocked I will exchange all the stuff for 22s. Any thing else befor I go. L J You know, you guys would be amazed, there are many feral cats right here in Hawaii. I can only speak for Oahu, but there is a disused Navy Air Station at Barbers Point called, yup you guessed it, the Barbers Point Navy base. Now it is the main base for the Coast Guard helicopter rescue squad.Well there are hundreds of feral cats in that area ,and in more places here. In this case, you know that many were pets of military folk that have been xferred out, and all I can guess is that many were just abandoned. Sad, but true. Many times I have seen people go over there and feed these guys.They are really undomesticated, and look really ratty, and I'm sure diseased.Hawaii has a history of introduced species, there are many examples of this. Just the other day a mongoose casually walked past my front walk. There are many of them. Originally introduced to control the rat population. Unfortunately, rats are mostly nocturnal, and the mongooses are daytime critters. We also have a lot of cane toads,(the poisonous kind), and on some islands, especially Kauai, there are wild chickens everywhere. What scares the hell out of Hawaiians is the possibility that the poisonous brown tree snake may be introduced from Guam. All planes are carefully checked for any hitchhikers. Supposedly there are no snakes in Hawaii.These snakes wiped out all of the native birds on Guam, and the thought of that happening here is scary , because Hawaii has some beautiful birds.These are just a few examples of humans screwing around with nature. California is overrun with wild pigs. When I was younger and healthier I hunted them in the Santa Cruz mountains. They were introduced to CA from the east coast in the late 1800's by some private hunting clubs.There are some places, like Mt. Madonna state park, where you would swear the ground has been plowed. Well it was, but by pigs.Hawaii has many critters introduced here. Snails, they were not native,well the list goes on and on. Hawaii has some really nasty centipedes, and I know some folks that have been bitten by them. Ugh!We also have the cane spider, which is quite aggressive when disturbed. These cane spiders are scary looking as well.Well, even roses have thorns.My only point is that the mainland has no monopoly on feral animals.Once domesticated, now wild. John > stop pissing around and use the 12, already! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I am shocked I will exchange all the stuff for 22s. Any thing else befor > I go. L J |
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