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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Hepatitis / November 2004regarding dragons
I realize I may be fighting yet another loosing battle but I wish people wouldn't call this thing a dragon. Dragons are beautiful beneficent warrior creatures. I love them. Just had to say it Zoe > I realize I may be fighting yet another loosing battle but I wish people >wouldn't call this thing a dragon. Dragons are beautiful beneficent warrior >creatures. I love them. Just had to say it > Zoe T---I think it is a ridiculous term to use too. The virus isn't even strictly-speaking a living organism, just an its-bitsy, teenie-weenie parasitic thing that kills and makes ill many people. It is to me rather arrogant to have to imagine a smaller than microscopic parasitic virus as a big fearsome creature just because it kills human beings. >> I realize I may be fighting yet another loosing battle but I wish people >>wouldn't call this thing a dragon. Dragons are beautiful beneficent warrior [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >parasitic virus as a big fearsome creature just because it kills human >beings. I think it is just a metaphor for a very difficult, but defeatable illness that caught on and stuck. Nothing more. Dismissing microorganisms because they are small just doesn't make sense. They are as deadly as any large creature and far more difficult to defeat. When you undertake TX you're off on a difficult battle with a formidable adversary. Don >>> I realize I may be fighting yet another loosing battle but I wish people >>>wouldn't call this thing a dragon. Dragons are beautiful beneficent warrior [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Don T----I have done 40 odd weeks of the combo over 99/00 and have started another round this week and I have geno 1 and cirrhosis. Its just a deadly virus, I do not need to mythologise a disease in order to bolster my human and mortal ego. [...] > T----I have done 40 odd weeks of the combo over 99/00 and have started > another round this week and I have geno 1 and cirrhosis. Its just a > deadly virus, I do not need to mythologise a disease in order to > bolster my human and mortal ego. Then don't. It seems to be helpful for other people, though. What's the problem? > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Then don't. It seems to be helpful for other people, though. What's > the problem? It's like painting witches as broom riding ugly hags that turn little children into toads. When you demonize something that someone else see's differently than they are going to want to defend it. I understand both sides. I like dragons (loved the Ann McCaffrey books) and can't think of the virus as "a dragon" but I just accept the reference from everyone else. I say use whatever you need to get through it. AG > > [...] > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > someone else see's differently than they are going to want to > defend it. But dragons don't exist. > I understand both sides. I like dragons (loved the Ann McCaffrey > books) and can't think of the virus as "a dragon" but I just accept > the reference from everyone else. I say use whatever you need to > get through it. Perhaps those who are invested in this can invent the categories of "bad dragon" and "good dragon" and make HepC a "bad dragon". How's that? Gordo > But dragons don't exist. says you :-) > > But dragons don't exist. > says you :-) There's a wonderful commercial for a TV show called "Reno 911" that shows what happens when a fantasy-role-playing geek confronts a police officer with his list of "immunities". Turns out he's not immune to mace. It's an interesting lesson in keeping the lines between fantasy and reality unblurred. Hi Gordo National Geographic Mag. will be interested to know that you think dragons dont exist. They have dune both print and telivision articals on them. "The Kimodo Dragon". Other than that most myths have a kernil of trooth in them that started the story. I through out this bit origanly because of my afection for the mythical creature. The responce has been interesting. Zoe > > > But dragons don't exist. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > mace. It's an interesting lesson in keeping the lines between fantasy > and reality unblurred. > Hi Gordo National Geographic Mag. will be interested to know that you think > dragons dont exist. They have dune both print and telivision articals on > them. "The Kimodo Dragon". Kimodo Dragons are lizards. > Other than that most myths have a kernil of > trooth in them that started the story. I think that most myths come from what humans need to believe in order to explain a confusing, uncontrollable, dangerous world. All it takes is one person with a good imagination to come up with an idea that appeals to others. > I through out this bit origanly > because of my afection for the mythical creature. The responce has been > interesting. I don't question your affection or your right to create a version of the mythological dragon that you like. I think if you did more research you'd see that your version is as valid as the one that some people use in this newsgroup - the traditional "loathsome beasts and evil enemies to humankind". > Zoe > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > mace. It's an interesting lesson in keeping the lines between fantasy > > and reality unblurred. > > > But dragons don't exist. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > mace. It's an interesting lesson in keeping the lines between fantasy > and reality unblurred. Actually dragons do exist. Maybe not the fire breathing winged creatures of mythology but what about Kimodo dragons? And if you're so concerned with keeping everything firmly based in reality (what a boring existence that would be for me <g>) than why refer to a very real very deadly disease in mythical terms? Isn't that blurring the lines too? I said I understood people referring to the virus as a dragon that need to be slain but I also understand people who love the "myth" of dragons being disturbed at having them portrayed as beasts. That's why I just see it as it is. A virus. AG > > > > But dragons don't exist. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Actually dragons do exist. Maybe not the fire breathing winged > creatures of mythology but what about Kimodo dragons? Lizards. They're big lizards. > And if you're so concerned with keeping everything firmly > based in reality..... [....] AG, I just give up. There's nothing I'm ever going to post in this newsgroup that you're not going to twist into something you object to. I really don't feel any need to play (or play into) that role for you, so good luck with your SVR and the rest of your life. I hope you become less of a bitch as the meds wear off. Gordo "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ga_mondragon-> > AG, I just give up. There's nothing I'm ever going to post in this > newsgroup that you're not going to twist into something you object to. > I really don't feel any need to play (or play into) that role for you, > so good luck with your SVR and the rest of your life. I hope you become > less of a bitch as the meds wear off. And you too Gordo. I am hoping that it's the tx that is making you such a self serving judgmental a.shole. I was keeping this debate light but I should have known you would come out lashing and frothing at the mouth. Your a class a jerk. One of the reasons I stopped participating in this group is because it became more a source of irritation than support with people like you force feeding their dogma down everyone's throat. You don't have to believe in anything except what you can touch you imagineless moron but telling others what's "good for them" to believe is the epitome of arrogance. So f.ck you too Godo.... AG Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 4:11pm (CST-2) From: uknown@spamblock.net (Agua Girl) "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondragon@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ga_mondragon-> AG, I just give up. There's nothing I'm ever going to post in this newsgroup that you're not going to twist into something you object to. I really don't feel any need to play (or play into) that role for you, so good luck with your SVR and the rest of your life. I hope you become less of a bitch as the meds wear off. And you too Gordo. I am hoping that it's the tx that is making you such a self serving judgmental a.shole. I was keeping this debate light but I should have known you would come out lashing and frothing at the mouth. Your a class a jerk. One of the reasons I stopped participating in this group is because it became more a source of irritation than support with people like you force feeding their dogma down everyone's throat. You don't have to believe in anything except what you can touch you imagineless moron but telling others what's "good for them" to believe is the epitome of arrogance. So f.ck you too Godo.... AG //////////// I thought you said you stopped posting in this group, you venomnous twat!!! Get lost again, Hoof!! Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >And you too Gordo. I am hoping that it's the tx that is making >you such a self serving judgmental a.shole. I was keeping this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >So f.ck you too Godo.... Ah, talking of arrogance... where exactly did Gordo tell anyone what's good for them to believe? He did just the opposite, claiming validity for both sides of the debate. For example here: "Perhaps those who are invested in this can invent the categories of "bad dragon" and "good dragon" and make HepC a "bad dragon". How's that?" or here: "I don't question your affection or your right to create a version of the mythological dragon that you like." Yet you accuse him of being "so concerned with keeping everything firmly based in reality", something that is nowhere in sight in any of his posts in this thread. You are completely distorting Gordo's posts, and then complaining about your distorted interpretation. And not for the first time. What's up with that? Thomas  SignatureTo reach me, complete my last name in the address. >>And you too Gordo. I am hoping that it's the tx that is making >>you such a self serving judgmental a.shole. I was keeping this [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Thomas My opinion: All AG started out with was: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's like painting witches as broom riding ugly hags that turn little children into toads. When you demonize something that someone else see's differently than they are going to want to defend it. I understand both sides. I like dragons (loved the Ann McCaffrey books) and can't think of the virus as "a dragon" but I just accept the reference from everyone else. I say use whatever you need to get through it. AG ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would be foolish to argue against this opinion and under normal circumstances this wouldn't be considered inflammatory. I didn't see any "twisting" or malice or distortion. She said personally she liked dragons but understood both viewpoints. What's to argue with that? This was frivolous and it was Gordo who got out of line with the insult. All this cause somebody says they like "dragons"? Ridiculous. Don > >Ah, talking of arrogance... where exactly did Gordo tell anyone what's > >good for them to believe? He did just the opposite, claiming validity [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >based in reality", something that is nowhere in sight in any of his > >posts in this thread. No Thomas, it went like this. Gordo said Dragons don't exist... I said "says you," with a big smiley face. His response was... "There's a wonderful commercial for a TV show called "Reno 911" that shows what happens when a fantasy-role-playing geek confronts a police officer with his list of "immunities". Turns out he's not immune to mace. It's an interesting lesson in keeping the lines between fantasy and reality unblurred" I took that to mean it's dangerous for me to blurr the lines of fantasy and reality. Not a big jump especially coming from someone who has argued that believing in a "god" is dangerous. My response was not derogatory. I just said if he is that concerned with blurring the lines of reality and fantasy than calling a real life virus after a mythical beast should also be of a concern. How is that horrible? He is the one who brought it up...with the Reno 911 analogy. > >You are completely distorting Gordo's posts, and then complaining about > >your distorted interpretation. And not for the first time. What's up > >with that? Go back and re-read the thread. HE SAID that there is a lesson to be learned about blurring the lines between reality and fantasy. You want to give me sh.t about not being nice to Gordo go ahead. It's a little hypocritical considering what has gone on in this news group in the 6 months that I was reading it but whatever. All I ask is that you get your story straight. I didn't distort anything, Gordo's message was quite clear. Just read the last line of the post I was actually responding too. AG >No Thomas, it went like this. Gordo said Dragons don't exist... >I said "says you," with a big smiley face. At the risk of beating a horse that's been dead for a while and is beginning to smell... I now see a bit better where your original remark was coming from. However, if you can't see how especially the "what a boring existence that would be for me" remark was incendiary, I have to wonder. >Go back and re-read the thread. I did, did you? If so, you should have noticed that there was a history to Gordo's post that said that dragons don't exist: you compared them to witches. However, there is a clear difference: witches do exist (at least persons calling themselves such), dragons do not. There is a difference between defending the rights of people not to be painted in a negative manner and defending the rights of mythical beings whose feelings hardly will be hurt by any aspersions. If you blur those lines, and insist that dragons should be considered real, things become quite ridiculous. From how I read the thread, that's all Gordo wanted to point out. Thomas SignatureTo reach me, complete my last name in the address. [....] > However, there is a clear difference: witches do exist (at > least persons calling themselves such), dragons do not. There is a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ridiculous. From how I read the thread, that's all Gordo wanted to point > out. I think the "kill the dragon" metaphor is really useful, and what Thomas writes is exactly what I had hoped to express. I like this quote: "Fairy tales are more than true - not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be beaten." G. K. Chesterton Gordo just like getting the golden fleece was it a 2 or 3 headed dragon which was slayed. ? Juanita >I didn't see any "twisting" or malice or distortion. She said >personally she liked dragons but understood both viewpoints. What's to >argue with that? This was frivolous and it was Gordo who got out of >line with the insult. All this cause somebody says they like >"dragons"? Ridiculous. Now you are twisting what Gordo reacted to. Go back and read Gordo's post that supposedly is "out of line", his attribution marks are very clear. He objected to AG making remarks about his personality (and her ridiculing it): "And if you're so concerned with keeping everything firmly based in reality (what a boring existence that would be for me <g>) [...]" Enough reason for Gordo's outburst when taken alone? Probably not, but there's a history. Thomas SignatureTo reach me, complete my last name in the address. Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Nov 11, 2004, 4:35pm (CST+1) From: tomw@capecod.com (Thomas Wagner) On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:11:29 -0800, "Agua Girl" <uknown@spamblock.net> wrote: And you too Gordo. I am hoping that it's the tx that is making you such a self serving judgmental a.shole. I was keeping this debate light but I should have known you would come out lashing and frothing at the mouth. Your a class a jerk. One of the reasons I stopped participating in this group is because it became more a source of irritation than support with people like you force feeding their dogma down everyone's throat. You don't have to believe in anything except what you can touch you imagineless moron but telling others what's "good for them" to believe is the epitome of arrogance. So f.ck you too Godo.... Ah, talking of arrogance... where exactly did Gordo tell anyone what's good for them to believe? He did just the opposite, claiming validity for both sides of the debate. For example here: "Perhaps those who are invested in this can invent the categories of "bad dragon" and "good dragon" and make HepC a "bad dragon". How's that?" or here: "I don't question your affection or your right to create a version of the mythological dragon that you like." Yet you accuse him of being "so concerned with keeping everything firmly based in reality", something that is nowhere in sight in any of his posts in this thread. You are completely distorting Gordo's posts, and then complaining about your distorted interpretation. And not for the first time. What's up with that? Thomas SignatureHey, look everyone!! When in the f.ck are you finally gonna believe me when I tell you that AG is really Hoof (in disguise)? They are the same person!!!!! AG just happened to show up again after covering fire from the only posters that don't hate her guts. Her 24 week treatment is really Hoof's assault on the NG. She made the whole thing up! Get it? If anyone in this group has been getting email or 'packages' from her, it's been to make herself appear real when in reality it's the same old Hoof-a.s! I'll bet if you got an email from her, she was putting someone here down. Right? Ahahahahahhah!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, it's me... Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum I think you may be on to something Elmo. Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the argumentative part reading in between the lines. Juanita > I think you may be on to something Elmo. > Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the > argumentative part reading in between the lines. Argumentative? Is that anyone who doesn't automatically agree? First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. Secondly, I wasn't being argumentative with Gordo. I was actually agreeing with both sides ...he's the one who went off the deep end (again, maybe the meds) first. Lastly, I do not nor have I ever posted as anyone here or anywhere with another log on or nick. Any idiot can check a post's source so why don't you just do that. Ohh wait...how would that fit into elmo's desire to be down right nasty. Enjoy yourselves. I will get better, and I will move on with my life no worse off for your cruelty...you on the other hand will still be here finding joy in hurting others....others on medication who come here for support. Nice. I'm sure your mother must be very proud. AG Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 4:55am (CST-2) From: uknown@spamblock.net (Agua Girl) "JV" <Meling333@webtv.net> wrote in message news:2069-419455AE-262@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net... I think you may be on to something Elmo. Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the argumentative part reading in between the lines. Argumentative? Is that anyone who doesn't automatically agree? First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. Secondly, I wasn't being argumentative with Gordo. I was actually agreeing with both sides ..he's the one who went off the deep end (again, maybe the meds) first. Lastly, I do not nor have I ever posted as anyone here or anywhere with another log on or nick. Any idiot can check a post's source so why don't you just do that. Ohh wait...how would that fit into elmo's desire to be down right nasty. Enjoy yourselves. I will get better, and I will move on with my life no worse off for your cruelty...you on the other hand will still be here finding joy in hurting others....others on medication who come here for support. Nice. I'm sure your mother must be very proud. AG /////////// Quit confusing irritablility with irrationality, AG (Hoof) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum LOLOLOLOLOLOL Juanita I'm not mad at anyone. I laughed and laughed about the dragon dispute. Wondered how something so simple got so out of hand not to mention hurtl. Just don't make sense to me. There are good dragons and evil dragons. just like anything else. Though I have changed my opinion on dragons since Hep c and tx. I now, I admit it I am prejudice against dragons. I think they should all be put into hard labor camps. LOL Every time I see one I want to crawl under by bed and hide or shoot them all with a 12 gage. See the damage that the dragon has done to me. I thought they were nice but I am convinced they make you sick. Juanita Right on Tom, like looking up an ID like that will take you any where. In 1 day AG first is on treatment and then she is all of a sudden done with tx. Just dosent add up. I just love discovery. Juanita ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ AG wrote First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. AG wrote shortly there after I am deeply disappointed and extremely thankful that I am done with tx and no longer have a "need" for support since there sure doesn't seem to be any found here. Right on Tom, like looking up an ID like that will take you any where. In 1 day AG first is on treatment and then she is all of a sudden done with tx. Just dosent add up. I just love discovery. Juanita ??????????????????????????????? AG wrote First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. AG wrote shortly there after I am deeply disappointed and extremely thankful that I am done with tx and no longer have a "need" for support since there sure doesn't seem to be any found here. ***** JV, if you had been reading for any length of time than you would I posted last monday that I had done shot 24 of 24. I still have the last of my Ribaviran to take, which will be finished by tomorrow. So I am still on treatment but essentially finished. I know it makes it more fun for you to harass people and treat everyone that dares to disagree as some sort of troll to be ignored but that is not the case. What do you want? My doctors number? How about the label from the Riba? Would offer the redipen too but they are gone. As for checking source code, most newsreaders allow you to first check the properties and then the message source. It shows the path a message takes from my isp to yours and will also tell you where to report abuse so while I munge my address to prevent spam, there is nothing stopping you from finding out that I am posting from an Adelphia server. I am going to bet that hoof doesn't since it's the local cable company. Like I said, you don't really want the truth..you want to pick on people, joing elmo's circus by deciding who gets treated with some modicom of compassion and who gets kicked around. Frankly I don't care. Those of you who are taking joy in all this nastiness should be ashamed. To do this to people in a support group is the lowest of lows...but like I said. For all intense purposes I am done and don't need the support...good thing since there is very little to be had from the likes of you. AG >Right on Tom, like looking up an ID like that will take you any where. >In 1 day AG first is on treatment and then she is all of a sudden done >with tx. Just dosent add up. I just love discovery. Well... she still has the riba-rage excuse, because she just completed treatment. It takes a while for the effects to wear off. Sort of like the twilight zone... ;-) Thomas SignatureTo reach me, complete my last name in the address. > > I think you may be on to something Elmo. > > Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > AG I agree with this post. I would like to warn you though, I have been in this NG and SMDH since 1998 or 1999. ( which is longer than either one of your assailants) you are fighting a losing battle with them. I have no clue why they would accuse you of being me, but I will tell you that this type of accusations have been made more than I care to even count. In fact there were posters to SMDH who were accused of being me, and their user names were posted to a URL ( Web Site). In fact, since I have a 1A dx. if I were to retreat, I would be on the 48 weeks protocol, not 24. They see pink elephants around here, must be a guilty conscious or something. Who knows, Neither Thomas nor elmer is in treatment, in fact Elmer's did three rounds of treatment and has a SVR. Why he remains here only god knows, but he seems to think he is a big fish in this rather upside down and small pond on Usenet. Good luck with your treatment. Hoof Elmer: knock it off, I have no reason to change my user name especially at this late date. Just because you use a fake user name over in SMDH and now have a computer which allows ;you to post almost anon, doesn't mean that everyone else is of the same ilk as you and the other feral cave dwellers. Or you have a very 'guilty' conscious and regret the abysmal way you have treated me in the past. And FYI: I am the one who told chukker about Delphi and Usenet. He came over here because I told him it was another haven for HCV'rs and he wanted to get away from the HEPV-L where they made fun of him using webtv. Now f.ck off!!! and Get lost!! You refuse to support anyone who doesn't follow your suit, and I have it in your own posted writing. Hoof Signature{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.} {If you have a problem with that, take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.} A Free Thinker. Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 14, 2004, 4:49pm (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) Agua Girl wrote: "JV" <Meling333@webtv.net> wrote in message news:2069-419455AE-262@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net... I think you may be on to something Elmo. Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the argumentative part reading in between the lines. Argumentative? Is that anyone who doesn't automatically agree? First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. Secondly, I wasn't being argumentative with Gordo. I was actually agreeing with both sides ..he's the one who went off the deep end (again, maybe the meds) first. Lastly, I do not nor have I ever posted as anyone here or anywhere with another log on or nick. Any idiot can check a post's source so why don't you just do that. Ohh wait...how would that fit into elmo's desire to be down right nasty. Enjoy yourselves. I will get better, and I will move on with my life no worse off for your cruelty...you on the other hand will still be here finding joy in hurting others....others on medication who come here for support. Nice. I'm sure your mother must be very proud. AG I agree with this post. I would like to warn you though, I have been in this NG and SMDH since 1998 or 1999. ( which is longer than either one of your assailants) you are fighting a losing battle with them. I have no clue why they would accuse you of being me, but I will tell you that this type of accusations have been made more than I care to even count. In fact there were posters to SMDH who were accused of being me, and their user names were posted to a URL ( Web Site). In fact, since I have a 1A dx. if I were to retreat, I would be on the 48 weeks protocol, not 24. They see pink elephants around here, must be a guilty conscious or something. Who knows, Neither Thomas nor elmer is in treatment, in fact Elmer's did three rounds of treatment and has a SVR. Why he remains here only god knows, but he seems to think he is a big fish in this rather upside down and small pond on Usenet. Good luck with your treatment. Hoof Elmer: knock it off, I have no reason to change my user name especially at this late date. Just because you use a fake user name over in SMDH and now have a computer which allows ;you to post almost anon, doesn't mean that everyone else is of the same ilk as you and the other feral cave dwellers. Or you have a very 'guilty' conscious and regret the abysmal way you have treated me in the past. And FYI: I am the one who told chukker about Delphi and Usenet. He came over here because I told him it was another haven for HCV'rs and he wanted to get away from the HEPV-L where they made fun of him using webtv. Now f.ck off!!! and Get lost!! You refuse to support anyone who doesn't follow your suit, and I have it in your own posted writing. Hoof Signature{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.} {If you have a problem with that, take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.} A Free Thinker. ??????? You're still nuts, Hoof. I'm not going anywhere. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Re: regarding dragons > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > You're still nuts, Hoof. I'm not going anywhere. > Elmo Two words describe the Feral Cave dwellers. Mentally Deranged. Good Day, Elmer. You have been attacking someone who is on treatment, which is par for the course in this NG. I hope you finally have it straight. hoof > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Signature{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.} {If you have a problem with that, take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.} A Free Thinker. Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 6:41am (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 14, 2004, 4:49pm (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) Agua Girl wrote: I think you may be on to something Elmo. Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the argumentative part reading in between the lines. Argumentative? Is that anyone who doesn't automatically agree? First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. Secondly, I wasn't being argumentative with Gordo. I was actually agreeing with both sides ..he's the one who went off the deep end (again, maybe the meds) first. Lastly, I do not nor have I ever posted as anyone here or anywhere with another log on or nick. Any idiot can check a post's source so why don't you just do that. Ohh wait...how would that fit into elmo's desire to be down right nasty. Enjoy yourselves. I will get better, and I will move on with my life no worse off for your cruelty...you on the other hand will still be here finding joy in hurting others....others on medication who come here for support. Nice. I'm sure your mother must be very proud. AG I agree with this post. I would like to warn you though, I have been in this NG and SMDH since 1998 or 1999. ( which is longer than either one of your assailants) you are fighting a losing battle with them. I have no clue why they would accuse you of being me, but I will tell you that this type of accusations have been made more than I care to even count. In fact there were posters to SMDH who were accused of being me, and their user names were posted to a URL ( Web Site). In fact, since I have a 1A dx. if I were to retreat, I would be on the 48 weeks protocol, not 24. They see pink elephants around here, must be a guilty conscious or something. Who knows, Neither Thomas nor elmer is in treatment, in fact Elmer's did three rounds of treatment and has a SVR. Why he remains here only god knows, but he seems to think he is a big fish in this rather upside down and small pond on Usenet. Good luck with your treatment. Hoof Elmer: knock it off, I have no reason to change my user name especially at this late date. Just because you use a fake user name over in SMDH and now have a computer which allows ;you to post almost anon, doesn't mean that everyone else is of the same ilk as you and the other feral cave dwellers. Or you have a very 'guilty' conscious and regret the abysmal way you have treated me in the past. And FYI: I am the one who told chukker about Delphi and Usenet. He came over here because I told him it was another haven for HCV'rs and he wanted to get away from the HEPV-L where they made fun of him using webtv. Now f.ck off!!! and Get lost!! You refuse to support anyone who doesn't follow your suit, and I have it in your own posted writing. Hoof Signature{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.} {If you have a problem with that, take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.} A Free Thinker. ??????? You're still nuts, Hoof. I'm not going anywhere. Elmo Two words describe the Feral Cave dwellers. Mentally Deranged. Good Day, Elmer. You have been attacking someone who is on treatment, which is par for the course in this NG. I hope you finally have it straight. hoof //////// Who was I attacking that's on treatment? I didn't know they were treating you for your mental illness. Tell your shrink your anti-insanity drugs aren't working. I AM proud to be one of the mentally deranged Feral Cave Dwellers. Thank you very much. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Re: regarding dragons > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > //////// > Who was I attacking that's on treatment? AG AKA Agua Girl. That's who. <SNIP> > Elmo > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 7:31am (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 6:41am (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 14, 2004, 4:49pm (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) Agua Girl wrote: I think you may be on to something Elmo. Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the argumentative part reading in between the lines. Argumentative? Is that anyone who doesn't automatically agree? First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. Secondly, I wasn't being argumentative with Gordo. I was actually agreeing with both sides ..he's the one who went off the deep end (again, maybe the meds) first. Lastly, I do not nor have I ever posted as anyone here or anywhere with another log on or nick. Any idiot can check a post's source so why don't you just do that. Ohh wait...how would that fit into elmo's desire to be down right nasty. Enjoy yourselves. I will get better, and I will move on with my life no worse off for your cruelty...you on the other hand will still be here finding joy in hurting others....others on medication who come here for support. Nice. I'm sure your mother must be very proud. AG I agree with this post. I would like to warn you though, I have been in this NG and SMDH since 1998 or 1999. ( which is longer than either one of your assailants) you are fighting a losing battle with them. I have no clue why they would accuse you of being me, but I will tell you that this type of accusations have been made more than I care to even count. In fact there were posters to SMDH who were accused of being me, and their user names were posted to a URL ( Web Site). In fact, since I have a 1A dx. if I were to retreat, I would be on the 48 weeks protocol, not 24. They see pink elephants around here, must be a guilty conscious or something. Who knows, Neither Thomas nor elmer is in treatment, in fact Elmer's did three rounds of treatment and has a SVR. Why he remains here only god knows, but he seems to think he is a big fish in this rather upside down and small pond on Usenet. Good luck with your treatment. Hoof Elmer: knock it off, I have no reason to change my user name especially at this late date. Just because you use a fake user name over in SMDH and now have a computer which allows ;you to post almost anon, doesn't mean that everyone else is of the same ilk as you and the other feral cave dwellers. Or you have a very 'guilty' conscious and regret the abysmal way you have treated me in the past. And FYI: I am the one who told chukker about Delphi and Usenet. He came over here because I told him it was another haven for HCV'rs and he wanted to get away from the HEPV-L where they made fun of him using webtv. Now f.ck off!!! and Get lost!! You refuse to support anyone who doesn't follow your suit, and I have it in your own posted writing. Hoof Signature{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.} {If you have a problem with that, take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.} A Free Thinker. ??????? You're still nuts, Hoof. I'm not going anywhere. Elmo Two words describe the Feral Cave dwellers. Mentally Deranged. Good Day, Elmer. You have been attacking someone who is on treatment, which is par for the course in this NG. I hope you finally have it straight. hoof //////// Who was I attacking that's on treatment? AG AKA Agua Girl. That's who. <SNIP> ////////// If you had read the posts, you would see that it's the other way around. I was merely responding to her outrageous comments. Elmo ("You can't argue with a sick mind.") http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum > Re: regarding dragons > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > ////////// > If you had read the posts, you would see that it's the other way around. I am not interested in your excuses for your insane possessed thought process. > I was merely responding to her outrageous comments. Are you saying that *your* comments are *not* outrageous?? Want to rethink that statement? hoof > Elmo > ("You can't argue with a sick mind.") > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 8:31am (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 7:31am (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2004, 6:41am (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 14, 2004, 4:49pm (CST-2) From: equsphotogophr@hotmail.com (hoofprints) Agua Girl wrote: I think you may be on to something Elmo. Oh, AG is Hoof n mouth????. LOL It makes since. Especially the argumentative part reading in between the lines. Argumentative? Is that anyone who doesn't automatically agree? First off, I am on tx, something known to cause irritability. Not sure what elmo's excuse is or yours for that matter. Secondly, I wasn't being argumentative with Gordo. I was actually agreeing with both sides ..he's the one who went off the deep end (again, maybe the meds) first. Lastly, I do not nor have I ever posted as anyone here or anywhere with another log on or nick. Any idiot can check a post's source so why don't you just do that. Ohh wait...how would that fit into elmo's desire to be down right nasty. Enjoy yourselves. I will get better, and I will move on with my life no worse off for your cruelty...you on the other hand will still be here finding joy in hurting others....others on medication who come here for support. Nice. I'm sure your mother must be very proud. AG I agree with this post. I would like to warn you though, I have been in this NG and SMDH since 1998 or 1999. ( which is longer than either one of your assailants) you are fighting a losing battle with them. I have no clue why they would accuse you of being me, but I will tell you that this type of accusations have been made more than I care to even count. In fact there were posters to SMDH who were accused of being me, and their user names were posted to a URL ( Web Site). In fact, since I have a 1A dx. if I were to retreat, I would be on the 48 weeks protocol, not 24. They see pink elephants around here, must be a guilty conscious or something. Who knows, Neither Thomas nor elmer is in treatment, in fact Elmer's did three rounds of treatment and has a SVR. Why he remains here only god knows, but he seems to think he is a big fish in this rather upside down and small pond on Usenet. Good luck with your treatment. Hoof Elmer: knock it off, I have no reason to change my user name especially at this late date. Just because you use a fake user name over in SMDH and now have a computer which allows ;you to post almost anon, doesn't mean that everyone else is of the same ilk as you and the other feral cave dwellers. Or you have a very 'guilty' conscious and regret the abysmal way you have treated me in the past. And FYI: I am the one who told chukker about Delphi and Usenet. He came over here because I told him it was another haven for HCV'rs and he wanted to get away from the HEPV-L where they made fun of him using webtv. Now f.ck off!!! and Get lost!! You refuse to support anyone who doesn't follow your suit, and I have it in your own posted writing. Hoof Signature{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.} {If you have a problem with that, take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.} A Free Thinker. ??????? You're still nuts, Hoof. I'm not going anywhere. Elmo Two words describe the Feral Cave dwellers. Mentally Deranged. Good Day, Elmer. You have been attacking someone who is on treatment, which is par for the course in this NG. I hope you finally have it straight. hoof //////// Who was I attacking that's on treatment? AG AKA Agua Girl. That's who. <SNIP> ////////// If you had read the posts, you would see that it's the other way around. I am not interested in your excuses for your insane possessed thought process. I was merely responding to her outrageous comments. Are you saying that *your* comments are *not* outrageous?? Want to rethink that statement? hoof ////////// OK! So I have a sick mind and outrageous thoughts. At least I'm sane! ahahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!! Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum [...] > OK! So I have a sick mind and outrageous thoughts. At least I'm sane! > ahahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!! No doubt about it, this newsgroup gets pretty bumpy sometimes. Not unexpected, all things considered. Elmo, you're a wack job (as most of my friends are) but you've done two quality things since I've been here: - consistently posted supportive responses to people's both good and bad events - several times admitted when you've gone over the top, and apologized In my time reading usenet, I've learned that people who do these things with any regularity are rare. You're not a f.cking saint by any means, but all people are here is the sum of what they've written. In the time I've been here that's what I've seen. And fart jokes. Groups of gay men don't usually tell fart jokes - some butch lesbians do, but they're usually the butch lesbians who don't like being around men - and you've reminded me of what I learned when I was a kid: farts are just basically funny and a good fart story can always make me laugh. Gordo Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 12:25pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondragon@yahoo.com (Gordo Mondragon) In article <11129-41997A3E-398@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote: [...] OK! So I have a sick mind and outrageous thoughts. At least I'm sane! ahahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!! No doubt about it, this newsgroup gets pretty bumpy sometimes. Not unexpected, all things considered. Elmo, you're a wack job (as most of my friends are) but you've done two quality things since I've been here: - consistently posted supportive responses to people's both good and bad events - several times admitted when you've gone over the top, and apologized In my time reading usenet, I've learned that people who do these things with any regularity are rare. You're not a f.cking saint by any means, but all people are here is the sum of what they've written. In the time I've been here that's what I've seen. And fart jokes. Groups of gay men don't usually tell fart jokes - some butch lesbians do, but they're usually the butch lesbians who don't like being around men - and you've reminded me of what I learned when I was a kid: farts are just basically funny and a good fart story can always make me laugh. Gordo ///////// ahahahahah!!! Thanks, Gordo. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum We have a St. Elmo's steak house in downtown Indy. :) Mark Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 9:45am (CST+1) From: irp3181@comcast.net (Mark Emerson) We have a St. Elmo's steak house in downtown Indy. :) Mark ////////////// It's true! Father Elmo's status has been raised to sainthood by the Vatican. He was then commissioned by the Pope to open a steak house in Indy. I've been told that the women customers get 50% off if they're clad only in red high-heel shoes. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 9:45am (CST+1) From: irp3181@comcast.net (Mark Emerson) We have a St. Elmo's steak house in downtown Indy. :) Mark ////////////// It's true! Father Elmo's status has been raised to sainthood by the Vatican. He was then commissioned by the Pope to open a steak house in Indy. I've been told that the women customers get 50% off if they're clad only in red high-heel shoes. Elmo There is also St. Elmo's fire that aught to burn out those nasty little virus demons. Burn on, brother, the only sain people end up in the nut house because you have to be insain to deal with reality. Now hows that for mispelled, esoteric philosiphy? Zoe http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2004, 2:27am (CST+6) From: pozozoe@earthlink.net (zoe wright) <elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5852-419A1B19-447@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... Re: regarding dragons Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2004, 9:45am (CST+1) From: irp3181@comcast.net (Mark Emerson) We have a St. Elmo's steak house in downtown Indy. :) Mark ////////////// It's true! Father Elmo's status has been raised to sainthood by the Vatican. He was then commissioned by the Pope to open a steak house in Indy. I've been told that the women customers get 50% off if they're clad only in red high-heel shoes. Elmo There is also St. Elmo's fire that aught to burn out those nasty little virus demons. Burn on, brother, the only sain people end up in the nut house because you have to be insain to deal with reality. Now hows that for mispelled, esoteric philosiphy? Zoe ///////// Yeah, how bout that? hehe Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Whataya say we quit fighting dragons for awhile and take on the beavers instead. Personally, I'm sick of dragons. Fighting beaver is more fun anyway. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Ok I'll bite, coming from Oregon I find that our two state collage football teams have the inspiring names,(The Beavers & The Ducks) This is embarrassing. Zoe > Whataya say we quit fighting dragons for awhile and take on the beavers > instead. Personally, I'm sick of dragons. Fighting beaver is more fun [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum My point is that I'd rather wrestle a beaver than fight with a dragon. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum Godzilla was a dragon too. ahahahahahah!!!!!! Yuppers, with big feet,and bad breath, Godzilla didn't stand a chance > Godzilla was a dragon too. ahahahahahah!!!!!! There is an excellent picture of the hepc virus on page 3 of my doc elmos hepfile below. It dispels the rumor that the virus is a dragon. Elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >T----I have done 40 odd weeks of the combo over 99/00 and have started >another round this week and I have geno 1 and cirrhosis. Its just a >deadly virus, I do not need to mythologise a disease in order to >bolster my human and mortal ego. Sorry to hear that. But perhaps you have other ways you prefer to bolster your human and mortal ego. For me it is just the difference between being dull and creative. Don The seven headed dragon that Hercules killed wasn't a very a friendly fellow. These types burn our flesh and eat if leaving scar tissue that eventually cause us to die. My this dragon reveal its self to you so you can fight, 17 more weeks, cried my eyes out today after I talked to my shrink. The Dragon is loosing, being hacked into harmless pieces, Visualizatation is a very powerful weapon we have. Use it! The dragon sleeps, but he will sought and destroyed so we might live!! Julie > I realize I may be fighting yet another loosing battle but I wish people > wouldn't call this thing a dragon. Dragons are beautiful beneficent warrior > creatures. I love them. Just had to say it > Zoe I agree with the "visualations" of defeating this. KILL THE BEAST!! SignatureRuss Visit Alaska @ http://www.tannersacre.com > The seven headed dragon that Hercules killed wasn't a very a friendly > fellow. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > creatures. I love them. Just had to say it > > Zoe I agree with Russ.....KILL THE BEAST!!!!! Julie answered: > The seven headed dragon that Hercules killed wasn't a very a friendly > fellow. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The dragon sleeps, but he will sought and destroyed so we might live!! > Julie Very well said..... KILL THE DRAGON! Julie: I support you all in your fight to kill the beast. I had no idea I was going to stir up such vehemence. Or that I would be responsible for Gordo's vitriol. I understand that visualization is a powerful tool in healing. with this powerful image of the devouring dragon may I suggest that a reverence for St. George might be helpful. Let us not take this whole issue as anything more than what it was intended to be, a light hearted diversion. Zoe > The seven headed dragon that Hercules killed wasn't a very a friendly > fellow. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > creatures. I love them. Just had to say it > > Zoe |
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