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Coughing, and Crying

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Gordo Mondragon - 22 Oct 2004 13:01 GMT
Suzanne recently posted a funny/true story that included uncontrollable
crying.  For me, being on the verge of tears was common from the
beginning but didn't get out of control until week 12, when I started on
a fast-acting antidepressant.  I'm just about to jab myself with shot
#18 and I almost never feel like crying now except when I'm really
really mentally tired (which is after about 2 hours of working.)

Question: does the crying come back even if you're taking anti-d's?

Also, I've been noticing that I'm developing a wet cough - what comes
out is clear and could be just drainage from change-of-season runny
nose, it could be from my herb smoking (but that's much less since I've
been on the anti-d) or it could be from the tx.  Anyone have any
experience with it?  I'm not worried about infection because it's
completely clear and will check with my doc next week when I see him,
but I'm thinking this is yet another fun side effect.

Gordo
Susie Quill - 22 Oct 2004 13:57 GMT
> Suzanne recently posted a funny/true story that included uncontrollable
> crying.  For me, being on the verge of tears was common from the
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> Gordo

I developed that cough.  It is a side effect of treatment after a while.  I
think it is from the riba, but I'm not sure.
I sucked on lozengers, hard candy,  and something called Hold seemed to help
the most.

Crying just made my head hurt more, but I did do some of it anyway.
Susie
Russ - 22 Oct 2004 15:22 GMT
oh yea, I had the "cough" too. It went away after tx.

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ghibeluno - 22 Oct 2004 14:13 GMT
> Also, I've been noticing that I'm developing a wet cough - what comes
> out is clear and could be just drainage from change-of-season runny
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> completely clear and will check with my doc next week when I see him,
> but I'm thinking this is yet another fun side effect.

My doc clearly stated that this is one of the side effect of rebetol.

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Gordo Mondragon - 22 Oct 2004 14:22 GMT
> > Also, I've been noticing that I'm developing a wet cough - what comes
> > out is clear and could be just drainage from change-of-season runny
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> My doc clearly stated that this is one of the side effect of rebetol.

New side effects, one a week.  The next seven weeks should be
interesting.

What I've had to learn to compensate for is that my simple throat
clearing can sometimes bring up a big wad of wet stuff.  The first time
it happened it was like in slow motion - I was talking to someone,
turned my head to the side to emit a small cough, and felt this big wad
flinging itself from my throat to my mouth to my chin and hang there,
swinging.

Kind of a conversation stopper.  Their quote: "isn't it nice to know
that even at your age you can still win a gross-out contest".

I now carry tissues and always cover my mouth for even the smallest
cough.

Gordo
Suzanne - 22 Oct 2004 16:03 GMT
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O.K. Gordo, you have to put a warning on these kind of posts. I don't have a
strong stomach in the mornings, never have, but I've been lucky that tx
hasn't produced any nausea. Until this morning. Your post was so graphic
that I was coughing, gagging, throwing up and crying. My husband was saying
oh baby it's just the drugs, and I couldn't tell him it was my SUPPORT
GROUP. Thanks a lot. :)

Suzanne
Gordo Mondragon - 22 Oct 2004 16:12 GMT
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> GROUP. Thanks a lot. :)

Oh dear.  Very sorry.  I'll be more careful in the future.
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> Oh dear.  Very sorry.  I'll be more careful in the future.

Nah, just put somewhere that I can't read it until after 10:00 am. <grin>
Any other time I would have been howling.

Suzanne
Russ - 22 Oct 2004 15:21 GMT
gordo- When I started tx over a year ago, they put me on 50mg/day of Zoloft.
But about 2 months into tx I too had the "crying" jags. Over stupid little
thoughts. For instance, I was driving to work one morning and because I
hadn't talked to my friend Karen for a couple of days, I had the thought
"maybe she was in the hospital, or maybe she had died!!!". I instantly
started bawling so hard I had to pull over.

the doc raised my Zoloft to 100mg/day and the crying stopped. Then I was
just pissed off and ornery for the rest of the tx. But the crying mostly
stopped.

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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 22 Oct 2004 16:50 GMT
Yeah, I got both those sides too, Gordo.  I forget what silly tv show
brought me to tears, but it certainly wasn't worth shedding tears over.
(kind of embarrassing, really, and I'm glad noone was around to see me
that way.  hahah)

As far as the cough goes, don't worry much about it unless you start to
get a fever along with it.  It'll go away when you're done with tx.  

Elmo

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Gordo Mondragon - 22 Oct 2004 17:48 GMT
> Yeah, I got both those sides too, Gordo.  I forget what silly tv show
> brought me to tears, but it certainly wasn't worth shedding tears over.
> (kind of embarrassing, really, and I'm glad noone was around to see me
> that way.  hahah)

Since I've been on the anti-d I don't cry much at all.

> As far as the cough goes, don't worry much about it unless you start to
> get a fever along with it.  It'll go away when you're done with tx.  

Thanks to everyone for the feedback, I'll just tell my doc about it next
time I go in, and not worry about it.
Cactus Jammies - 25 Oct 2004 01:56 GMT
I have developed the same wet cough and succumb to fits of intertia and
weepiness.  I also have the shortness of breath thing, too which is
transitory and makes be feel as though I should not get into something that
would take more than ten minutes of my precious attention to either mess up
or whatever.  I was wondering about the MJ and cough connection, but I don't
smoke a whole lot anyway.  Only as required when contemplating feeding.
(glorp!)  Into shot 4 this coming week.  No serious side from that yet.  I
just eat Tylenol and don't expect to get much done for two days.  I now have
simplified my morining Ribavirin dosage to eating a bit of cheddar cheese
just as I chase that and the capsules with water.  I have that persistent
gnawing feeling in the pit of my stomach, slightly dispepsic.  Livable but
miserable.

Cactus Jammies

>> Yeah, I got both those sides too, Gordo.  I forget what silly tv show
>> brought me to tears, but it certainly wasn't worth shedding tears over.
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> Thanks to everyone for the feedback, I'll just tell my doc about it next
> time I go in, and not worry about it.
Gordo Mondragon - 25 Oct 2004 03:59 GMT
> I have developed the same wet cough and succumb to fits of intertia and
> weepiness.  I also have the shortness of breath thing, too which is
> transitory and makes be feel as though I should not get into something that
> would take more than ten minutes of my precious attention to either mess up
> or whatever.

That was me around the same time.  It doesn't get great, but for me at
shot 18 I'm nowhere near as miserable.  It just didn't pass very
quickly, or as quickly as I thought/hoped.

> I was wondering about the MJ and cough connection, but I don't
> smoke a whole lot anyway.  Only as required when contemplating feeding.

No connection there for me.  I should have had it the whole 17 weeks
then.

> (glorp!)  Into shot 4 this coming week.  No serious side from that yet.  I
> just eat Tylenol and don't expect to get much done for two days.  I now have
> simplified my morining Ribavirin dosage to eating a bit of cheddar cheese
> just as I chase that and the capsules with water.  I have that persistent
> gnawing feeling in the pit of my stomach, slightly dispepsic.  Livable but
> miserable.

I took my Riba on an empty stomach for the first time yesterday (I'm
really good about drug protocol, don't want more resistance) and I got
that gnawing feeling.  It was awful.  

> Cactus Jammies
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> > Thanks to everyone for the feedback, I'll just tell my doc about it next
> > time I go in, and not worry about it.
Susie Quill - 22 Oct 2004 23:26 GMT
> Suzanne recently posted a funny/true story that included uncontrollable
> crying.  For me, being on the verge of tears was common from the
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> Gordo

Gosh, I never realized that the crying was a side effect of treatment.  I
was crying all the time about stupid stuff.  I started avoiding sad tv
shows.  Didn't matter what it was.  Feed the children campaigns, love
stories, I was crying all the time. I cry over really sad movies anyway, but
it was getting to the point where I couldn't watch much of anything without
bawling.  I was awfyk,.  I thought it was just me.  So, now I realize I
haven't been doing that for the last month.  What a relief that it was
temporary.
Susie


Gordo Mondragon - 23 Oct 2004 07:10 GMT
No matter what your political leanings, I think some of us have in
common the joy at being in tx during a presidential election period
where emotions are running really high.

I can't watch the news.  It's too difficult.

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Lookout - 23 Oct 2004 13:51 GMT
The president has the same problem. He can't read the papers. Or
won't.

>No matter what your political leanings, I think some of us have in
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Susie Quill - 25 Oct 2004 10:01 GMT
Even for those that aren't in treatment, watching the politics on tv is
painful.  I imagine that if I was still on treatment, I'd be bawling.
Susie

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