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Good Luck Susie!!!!

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Kim - 14 Aug 2004 04:00 GMT
Only 4 more to go. My good thoughts are with you.
I didn't even realize you were on treatment, you've been so easy
going. I have good feelings that you will clear, and hope you have no
lasting sides!!

All the best,

Kim
buster - 14 Aug 2004 05:12 GMT
Yes Saipan Susie, we are all pulling for you!
buster
> Only 4 more to go. My good thoughts are with you.
> I didn't even realize you were on treatment, you've been so easy
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> Kim
Susie Quill - 14 Aug 2004 10:55 GMT
LOL  Thanks, it is 8 p.m. in the evening here, and I don't even know for
sure what day it is.  LOL  Just woke up.
So, the support is apporeciated.
Susie

> Yes Saipan Susie, we are all pulling for you!
> buster
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> > Kim
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 14 Aug 2004 13:45 GMT
This calls for a bowl of ice cream!!
Yipppeeeee!!!!!!!
Elmo
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LOL Thanks, it is 8 p.m. in the evening here, and I don't even know for
sure what day it is. LOL Just woke up.
So, the support is apporeciated.
Susie
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Yes Saipan Susie, we are all pulling for you! buster
"Kim" <hepautomagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Only 4 more to go. My good thoughts are with you. I didn't even realize
you were on treatment, you've been so easy going. I have good feelings
that you will clear, and hope you have no lasting sides!!
All the best,
Kim

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Susie Quill - 14 Aug 2004 11:36 GMT
> Only 4 more to go. My good thoughts are with you.
> I didn't even realize you were on treatment, you've been so easy
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> Kim

Thanks Kim.  I just try not to say much usually if I'm in a bad mood.  I
know I can have a bad temper.  I really hate having to go back and apologize
later.  You weren't posting when I first started.  Guess you were taking
some time out from the list.
I just woke up and wasn't sure if it was a.m. or p.m. or what day it was.
Head hurts.  Stomach up-set.  I had left over Indian food that I ate
earlier.  I don't think that was very smart.
I'm looking forward to finishing.  I think I'm going to feel some guilt
though.  I just admire these people that have to go 48 weeks, or that have
gone thru this two or three times.
Julie will only be half way thru when I finish.  I'm not sure how I could
have gone in to this if I'd had that much to go.
I've got just enough sick time left to get me thru this I think, although I
might have to borrow a little.  I'm usually out of work now every Monday and
Tuesday.  At first, I only had to take Mondays off.  On Wednesday, I go in
the front office with no windows and hypernate for a while if I need to.
At 4 weeks I was negative.  Just took another test a few weeks ago and still
waiting for the results..  I am hopeful.....still there is always that
lurking thought, "What if it doesn't work".
I just want a good nights sleep again.

Thanks, susie
ares - 14 Aug 2004 23:03 GMT
I haven't been following the group lately and was wondering how it's going
for you; are you quitting early?  Is it working?
ares

> > Only 4 more to go. My good thoughts are with you.
> > I didn't even realize you were on treatment, you've been so easy
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Hepautornagic - 15 Aug 2004 01:12 GMT
Susie Wrote:

>Thanks Kim.  I just try not to say much usually if I'm in a bad mood.  I
>know I can have a bad temper.

I tend to say more when in a temper :). I don't mean to, don't want to, it's
just in my genes I guess????? I dunno. So, cudos for you for control.

I really hate having to go back and apologize
>later.  You weren't posting when I first started.  Guess you were taking
>some time out from the list.

Last summer I was away much, travelling. Then here and there during the regular
months, I am busy, busy here and there, so  I don't have tons idle time on my
hands. I could have just been working or away.

>I just woke up and wasn't sure if it was a.m. or p.m. or what day it was.
>Head hurts.  Stomach up-set.  I had left over Indian food that I ate
>earlier.  I don't think that was very smart.
>I'm looking forward to finishing.  I think I'm going to feel some guilt
>though.  I just admire these people that have to go 48 weeks, or that have
>gone thru this two or three times.

I can't even imagine doing it once! From what you guys say, it sounds like a
very rough go. Still though, I have high hopes for all those who endure it, so
they will never have to endure it again. For those who don't clear, I sure hope
that theraputic vaccine comes through fast!

>Julie will only be half way thru when I finish.

I should send her some encouragement too. ~~Waves Hi Julie, GOOD LUCK!!!

I'm not sure how I could
>have gone in to this if I'd had that much to go.
>I've got just enough sick time left to get me thru this I think, although I
>might have to borrow a little.  I'm usually out of work now every Monday and
>Tuesday.  At first, I only had to take Mondays off.  On Wednesday, I go in
>the front office with no windows and hypernate for a while if I need to.
>At 4 weeks I was negative.

Very positive, they say if you are clear at 12 and 24 weeks that you'll likely
remain clear. Are you a geno 2-3 or something? Is that why your doing only 24
wks?

Just took another test a few weeks ago and still
>waiting for the results..  I am hopeful.....still there is always that
>lurking thought,

"What if it doesn't work".
>I just want a good nights sleep again.

It sounds like you've already responded and I sure hope you get your sleep and
get out of that fibro pain fast. Rememeber to ask a specialist about Meridia,
people I know in Jersey who have fibro and were prescribed this by a
neurologist, have raved about the results!!

In Health,

Kim

Thanks, susie

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Susie Quill - 15 Aug 2004 04:23 GMT
I snapped at a shop lady about the time I started all this.
Afterwards, I realized I was dead wrong.  Bought her a little gift and took
it in and apologized.  I hate humble pie.  It was one of the worst things
I've ever had to do.  She was so
gracious.  She grabbed me and gave me the biggest hug.
I obviously had really hurt her feelings.  I'm not always in
control.....maybe being sick makes me too sick to fight so much now.

I'm type 2b.  I thought you had already gone thru treatment.
Have you rejected the idea of going thru with treatment.
I assume that you do have HCV.

Susie

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Hepautornagic - 15 Aug 2004 06:47 GMT
>From: "Susie Quill" susieq@vzpacifica.net
>Date: 14/08/2004 11:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <411ed729_6@corp.newsgroups.com>

Hi Susie,

Yes you assume correctly, I am HCV postitive. Got it from a blood transfusion
in 86. Confirmed HCV + in 91. Verified it was the blood in 98. (I live in
Canada) There was compensation pay out to victims who got it from blood
transfusions, so they had to trace every transfusion case in the HCV scandal.  
In 96 had a viral load. (I was pregnant though) Haven't had a detectable viral
load for a long time. There was a screw up typo on one report that indicated a
positive viral load a couple of years ago, but when the doctor got the report,
it was evident that the arrow was incorrectly typed and that I didn't. Nobody
knows why. At one point my doc had me tested bi weekly for six months to be
sure I wasn't in a trough phase. He can't explain it.  My liver is not damaged
in anyway shape or form, so I don't need treatment. If I did, I probably would
reject the gold standard, either wait for something better, or try something
else. Thats just me, it scares me more then HCV. So far... anyway. I guess I am
lucky! But anyone who is brave enough to go through with it, has my absolute
admiration and obvious best wishes in recovery!

Kim

>I snapped at a shop lady about the time I started all this.
>Afterwards, I realized I was dead wrong.  Bought her a little gift and took
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>I'm type 2b.  I thought you had already gone thru treatment.
>Have you rejected the idea of going thru with treatment.
I assume that you do have HCV.

>Susie
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Susie Quill - 15 Aug 2004 10:01 GMT
Maybe your going negative was in the genes too.
How blessed you are.
Susie

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Thomas Wagner - 15 Aug 2004 18:06 GMT
>Yes you assume correctly, I am HCV postitive. Got it from a blood transfusion
>in 86. Confirmed HCV + in 91. Verified it was the blood in 98. (I live in
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>knows why. At one point my doc had me tested bi weekly for six months to be
>sure I wasn't in a trough phase. He can't explain it.  

Well, there is a simple explanation: you cleared on your own. Very rare,
but not unheard of, especially in conjunction with pregnancy. I find it
rather strange that you still consider yourself "HCV positive". You
aren't, not after being virus free for "a couple of years". If you're
undetectable for two years then you're generally considered "cured". You
may still have antibodies for HCV, but those don't go away even when
you're cured, just as having antibodies for HBV after vaccination
doesn't mean you're "HBV positive". Consider yourself lucky, VERY lucky
indeed, but not "HCV positive".

Thomas
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Hepautornagic - 15 Aug 2004 18:25 GMT
>From: Thomas Wagner tomw@capecod.com
>Date: 15/08/2004 1:06 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>Well, there is a simple explanation: you cleared on your own.

Hi Thomas,

Both Dr. Jenny Heathcotes whose studies can be found all over pub med (my
hepatologist) and my Gastro Dr. Anand are keeping an  eye on my personal
medical progress in terms of HCV. Both agree that it is either lucky, unusual
and/or rare. Both want me tested every 2-5 years anyhow, and I'll go with what
they say. I do consider myself very lucky after all these years to have such
concerned and cautious doctors.  Of course lucky that I'm in a non detectable
state right now. As are you... which is a great feeling isn't it! I wish
everyone ends up in that state asap!

Take care,

Kim

I do test postitive for HCV antibodies, and below detection limit for viral
load.

Very rare,
>but not unheard of, especially in conjunction with pregnancy. I find it
>rather strange that you still consider yourself "HCV positive". You
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>Thomas
Thomas Wagner - 15 Aug 2004 18:32 GMT
>Both Dr. Jenny Heathcotes whose studies can be found all over pub med (my
>hepatologist) and my Gastro Dr. Anand are keeping an  eye on my personal
>medical progress in terms of HCV. Both agree that it is either lucky, unusual
>and/or rare. Both want me tested every 2-5 years anyhow, and I'll go with what
>they say.

Yes, until there's a test that can determine with absolute certainty
that nothing remains, it's a good idea to re-test from time to time. But
that's really a CYA-precaution, the chance of the virus hiding somewhere
for all that time is about zero.

> I do consider myself very lucky after all these years to have such
>concerned and cautious doctors.  Of course lucky that I'm in a non detectable
>state right now. As are you... which is a great feeling isn't it! I wish
>everyone ends up in that state asap!

Yes, a very good feeling. I haven't had my two years yet, so I'm still a
bit cautious (there's a tiny chance of relapse within the first two
years), but if '96 was the last time they found a viral load in you, I
think you have a good reason to celebrate your cure.

Thomas
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Hepautornagic - 15 Aug 2004 18:36 GMT
I don't know if this is of any use or concern to you, I think it may be one of
the reasons they tested me so often.

Normal
No HCV RNA is found in the blood sample. This usually means there is no active
HCV infection. However, false-negative results are possible, and HCV infection
should not be ruled out when a single qualitative HCV RNA test is negative. You
may need to repeat the test or have a supplemental antibody test if your health
professional thinks it is likely that you have hepatitis C.

A negative qualitative HCV RNA test does not necessarily mean you have never
been infected with HCV; it means only that you do not currently have an active
infection.
http://my.webmd.com/hw/hepatitus_c/hw144321.asp

Since at one point, pregnant or not, viral particles were present, that is
probably the reason both doctors wish to continue testing. Erring on the side
of caution maybe, studying me, I don't know? In anycase, that is what I am
under thier medical advice/obligation to do, and I do it.

In Health, good health to all,

Kim

Kim
heppiechik - 14 Aug 2004 15:40 GMT
Yippee Susie!!
You can do it!!!!
hc

> Only 4 more to go. My good thoughts are with you.
> I didn't even realize you were on treatment, you've been so easy
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> Kim
Jim - 14 Aug 2004 22:27 GMT
Hi Susie!

Really rooting for you!!!  Sorry you're still having those darn headaches,
though.  Did you ever get a chance to try Topomax???

Always keeping you in my prayers,

Jim
Agua Girl - 14 Aug 2004 22:19 GMT
> Hi Susie!
>
> Really rooting for you!!!  Sorry you're still having those darn headaches,
> though.  Did you ever get a chance to try Topomax???

What's Topomax?  I'd do almost anything to have a couple of days
a week headache free.
Jim - 15 Aug 2004 00:00 GMT
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>From: "Agua Girl" uknown@spamblock.net
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>What's Topomax?  I'd do almost anything to have a couple of days
>a week headache free.

AG,

Like many meds, they may be made for one thing but are found to help another.
In my case, I had/have chronic headaches that started mid-way through my tx.  I
took endocet for my joint/muscle pain but it did not touch the headaches.  My
doc prescribed Topomax (25 mg 1 in am and 1 in pm) and it stopped the
headaches.  The med was initially designed as an anticonvulsant used with other
meds to control certain types of seizures.  I don't get seizures, never have,
but the drug did stop the pounding, sharp headaches.  It was a great relief
that the endocet would not touch.

Jim
Susie Quill - 14 Aug 2004 23:18 GMT
> Hi Susie!
>
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> Jim

Hi Jim,
No, I've been using endocet, which knocks me out for several hours of
inadequate sleep.  Thanks for the suggestion again.
Susie
 
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