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Does anyone understand why there is spontaneous  recovery  for some people with hep c?

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Lone Ranger - 12 Aug 2004 02:17 GMT
Why do some people heal themselves of hep c and others do not? does
anyone know of trials that talk about this
Hepautornagic - 12 Aug 2004 03:51 GMT
Lone Ranger Wrote:

>Why do some people heal themselves of hep c and others do not? does
>anyone know of trials that talk about this

It has just recently been discovered it is genes. They will be working on both
a preventative and theraputic vaccine for it. When they are finished milking
the interferon cash cow, they might have a real cure. See below.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/08/06/hepatitis.recovery.ap/index.html

Genes might be key to hepatitis C
Friday, August 6, 2004 Posted: 3:47 PM EDT (1947 GMT)

Source: abcnews.com

More on this can be found at
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/506394

Certain Genes Fight Hepatitis C Better
Scientists Say Certain Genes Make It Easier for Some People to Fight
Hepatitis C

The Associated Press



WASHINGTON Aug. 5, 2004 — Scientists may have figured out why some
people infected with liver-destroying hepatitis C essentially cure
themselves: Their genes seem to unleash a faster immune attack.
The research, reported Thursday in the journal Science, may point to
new ways to prevent or treat hepatitis C, widely considered the most
serious of a family of liver viruses.

About 20 percent of people infected with hepatitis C somehow clear the
virus from their bodies without treatment. But about 3 million
Americans and 180 million people worldwide remain chronically
infected, at risk of eventually developing liver cancer or failure.
The virus claims 10,000 to 12,000 U.S. lives annually.

Doctors have long hoped that learning why some people are lucky enough
to spontaneously recover might help them create a vaccine to prevent
hepatitis C.

Now research by a team of U.S. and British scientists suggests one key
to that recovery is genes that take the brakes off the body's
front-line immune defense, so-called natural killer cells.

The work won't benefit patients any time soon.

However, "It brings us closer to understanding how the virus works,"
said Dr. Chloe Thio of Johns Hopkins University, who co-authored the
study with researchers from Britain's Southampton University and the
U.S. National Cancer Institute.

"In the long term, whether we can use this information to modulate the
body's immune system to improve therapeutics or vaccine design that is
the ultimate goal," she said.

Hepatitis C studies in chimpanzees suggested natural killer cells were
more active in animals that recovered. To find the genes involved in
that immune response, the researchers analyzed the DNA of 1,037
hepatitis C patients, 352 of whom spontaneously recovered.

Natural killer cells are continually poised to attack if a virus
strikes. Inhibitory receptors called KIRs (pronounced "keers") keep
them in check between infections, to ensure they don't attack healthy
tissue.

The scientists discovered a particular gene combination that controls
one KIR receptor, and the molecule attached to it was twice as common
in recovered patients than in the still-infected.

But how would an immune-inhibiting system fight hepatitis?

When the body senses viral infection, it has to activate the natural
killer cells by switching off inhibiting receptors, Thio explained.
This KIR combination seems weak, "so it's easier to overcome," she
said.

There's a caveat: The genetic protection was found only in patients
thought to have received an initial low dose of hepatitis C, because
they were infected by contaminated drug or tattoo needles instead of a
blood transfusion. It may be that the extra virus from tainted blood
long a common cause of hepatitis C was simply too much for those
patients' first-line defenses to handle, Thio said.

Since 1992, the U.S. blood supply has been strictly tested for
hepatitis C, so new transfusion-related cases have plummeted. Today
the disease is most commonly spread here through injecting drug use.

Other factors also play a role in spontaneous hepatitis C recovery,
Dr. Peter Parham of Stanford University said in an accompany
editorial.

But he noted that doctors already help treat a type of leukemia by
releasing natural killer cells from a different KIR receptor, so the
question now is whether a similar strategy could be developed for
hepatitis.

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Gordo Mondragon - 12 Aug 2004 15:50 GMT
> Lone Ranger Wrote:
>
> >Why do some people heal themselves of hep c and others do not? does
> >anyone know of trials that talk about this
>
> It has just recently been discovered it is genes.

If you read the article you'll see that it's very carefully worded
with qualifiers like "may", "seems to be", "may point to", "suggests",
and "there's a caveat".  Also "Other factors also play a role in
spontaneous hepatitis C recovery."

So it's incorrect to say "it is genes", and more correct to say
"there's some interesting new research that suggests there may be a
genetic component".

[...]

> http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/08/06/hepatitis.recovery.ap/index.html
>
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>
> Hepatitis C information:
Hepautornagic - 12 Aug 2004 16:42 GMT
>Date: 12/08/2004 10:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <1183950d.0408120650.853b301@posting.google.com>
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>
>So it's incorrect to say

Post Editor now?

> and more correct to say

Maybe I should just e-mail my posts to you and others likeminded and have you
edit them all before I click send. Perhaps when I find a study, I should send
it to you for decryption, and you could confer with   your pal and everyone can
be contented knowing you had an oversight on the matter and ASH-C would be a
perfect world.  Maybe when I pop my co-Q10 in the morning, I should consult
with you professionals who know better then my doctors, natural therapists and
everyone else.... pleace dew me da kydlee fabour... KILLFILE ME.

Kim

Kim

lol.

Kim
Gordo Mondragon - 12 Aug 2004 19:52 GMT
> >Date: 12/08/2004 10:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <1183950d.0408120650.853b301@posting.google.com>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Maybe I should just e-mail my posts to you and others likeminded and have you
> edit them all before I click send.

Kim - do you believe that your interpretation of the study was correct
and mine was wrong?  I'd be more than glad to hear some content from you
if you think that's the case.

Otherwise, you're just whining about having your publicly-posted errors
pointed out in the same public forum.  That you'll have to take up with
whoever's left who will listen to you.

> pleace dew me da kydlee fabour... KILLFILE ME.

Killfiles are too metaphorical.

Gordo
Hepautornagic - 12 Aug 2004 22:18 GMT
Gordo wrote:

>Kim - do you believe that your interpretation of the study was correct
>and mine was wrong?  

Dumbass, it was a news article published by a journalist not a study. Do the 2
links provided give you a hint? CNN & ABC?

okaythanxbye.

Kim
Gordo Mondragon - 12 Aug 2004 22:19 GMT
> Gordo wrote:
>
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> Dumbass, it was a news article published by a journalist not a study. Do the 2
> links provided give you a hint? CNN & ABC?

Cow, you said "It has just recently been discovered it is genes".  Your
interpretation.  As usual, it was wrong.  

> okaythanxbye.
>
> Kim
Hepautornagic - 12 Aug 2004 23:01 GMT
>: Gordo Mondragon ga_mondragon@yahoo.com
>Date: 12/08/2004 5:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Cow, you said "It has just recently been discovered it is genes".  Your
>interpretation.  As usual, it was wrong.  

Have you read the actual studies dorko?

Kim

>> okaythanxbye.
>>
>> Kim
Gordo Mondragon - 12 Aug 2004 23:04 GMT
> >: Gordo Mondragon ga_mondragon@yahoo.com
> >Date: 12/08/2004 5:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>
> Have you read the actual studies dorko?

Yeh.  You didn't.
Hepautornagic - 13 Aug 2004 01:04 GMT
>From: Gordo Mondragon ga_mondragon@yahoo.com
>Date: 12/08/2004 6:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Yeh.  You didn't.

did too!

nana!

Kim
 
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