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Booger - 11 Aug 2004 00:32 GMT
Hi All,

Elmo had mentioned that I should go get my teeth cleaned before I start. I
have made that appointment.
Is there anything else I should do that my doctor might not inform me of?

I am type 2 diabetic under control with diet and exercise if that matters.

I have changed my NG name to the nick-name my wife bestowed upon me.

My best to you all,

Dan Perlman
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 11 Aug 2004 01:56 GMT
It's recommended you also see an optamologist and get an EKG besides
getting yourself a haircut.  :-)
Elmo

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Booger - 11 Aug 2004 04:42 GMT
Thanks again Elmo!

Will do.

Dan

> It's recommended you also see an optamologist and get an EKG besides
> getting yourself a haircut.  :-)
> Elmo
>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 11 Aug 2004 17:24 GMT
Yep, the haircut is especially important.
Elmo
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Thanks again Elmo!
Will do.
Dan
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It's recommended you also see an optamologist and get an EKG besides
getting yourself a haircut. :-)
Elmo
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elmoemerson@webtv.net - 11 Aug 2004 01:57 GMT
ooops, it's spelled opthamologst (i teenk)
Elmo

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Julie - 11 Aug 2004 03:10 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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>
> Dan Perlman

I'm a type II diabetic also and was told to monitor my blood sugar three
times a day.  Seems that the stress of treatment can cause your liver to
dump plenty of glucose that it wouldn't normally create.   I was also given
some fast acting insulin to have availible just to make sure I could control
my glucose levels.
Welcome to the Dragon Slayers club,
Julie
Booger - 11 Aug 2004 04:45 GMT
Hi Julie,

I was taking Glucophage & Avandia up until last February. I wonder if I
should talk to the doc about going back on it temporarily.

Sure is nice to have all of you around.

Have a nice evening.

Dan

> > Hi All,
> >
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> Welcome to the Dragon Slayers club,
> Julie
Julie - 12 Aug 2004 01:30 GMT
So your blood sugar has been manageable since February without meds?
That's terrific, but you should talk to your doctor about having the
medication on hand in case you need it.  TX caused mine to go on a real
rollercoaster ride.
Kill the dragon,
Julie

> Hi Julie,
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> > Welcome to the Dragon Slayers club,
> > Julie
Booger - 12 Aug 2004 01:41 GMT
Yep.
My last A1C in June was 5.6
the range is 6.0 or less.
I used to have 9's and 10's on 2000 mg glucophage and 8 mg avandia. Lost 50
pounds on a low carb diet.

Now all I have to do is fix my liver.

Best,

Dan
> So your blood sugar has been manageable since February without meds?
> That's terrific, but you should talk to your doctor about having the
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> > > Welcome to the Dragon Slayers club,
> > > Julie
Susie Quill - 12 Aug 2004 09:39 GMT
> Yep.
> My last A1C in June was 5.6
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> Best,
> Dan

That is a great A1C.  I'm impressed.
Susie
Agua Girl - 11 Aug 2004 06:33 GMT
> Hi All,
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>
> My best to you all,

You may want to have a plan for dealing with the emotional
side effects.  I went on an anti-depressant 6 weeks before
beginning treatment since it takes a while for it to start
working.  Of course it doesn't have to be that, it can be
a support group or an exercise plan you can initiate whenever
you get the blues...whatever you think will work for you.
For me, plan A was chocolate but the whole appetite thing
nixed that..so plan B it is :-)

AG
Paul - 11 Aug 2004 08:28 GMT
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:32:49 GMT, "Booger" <dan@dpci.NOSPAM.us>, in
message ID <BWcSc.17398$cK.2347@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, in
the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Elmo had mentioned that I should go get my teeth cleaned before I start. I
>have made that appointment.
>Is there anything else I should do that my doctor might not inform me of?

I'm not going to say that this is absolutley necessary but I laid in a
good stock of cheap toothbrushes.  I have been changing them most
weeks as I sometimes bleed when I brush.  I've read that the virus can
live up to 2 months outside the body.  So theoretically, it may be
possible (though very unlikely) to re-infect onesself if not changing
toothbrush during tx.  I picked mine up from an ASDA (Walmart) store
for the UK equivalent of about 45 cents each.

Regarding non -medical stuff it's probably a good idea to organise
your bill paying and other practical issues.  The thinking can get
pretty foggy at times on tx and it's easy to forget things.  Try to
keep life simple while on it.
If you are allowed guns where you live, it may be a good idea to have
them way out of reach.  Good anger management is not a side effect of
tx - even for normally placid people.
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Booger - 11 Aug 2004 15:49 GMT
Hi Paul,

Boy, I didn't think of that. I do have a .38 in my bedroom.
I am the most mellow person you will ever meet. However, if the mood swings
are really that bad maybe I should have my neighbor lock it up in his gun
safe. I can't imagine ever using it against a person unless they were
breaking into my house or trying to hurt my wife.

Anyway, thanks for the advise.
I wish you well.

Dan

> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:32:49 GMT, "Booger" <dan@dpci.NOSPAM.us>, in
> message ID <BWcSc.17398$cK.2347@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, in
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> them way out of reach.  Good anger management is not a side effect of
> tx - even for normally placid people.
Paul - 11 Aug 2004 17:40 GMT
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:49:05 GMT, "Booger" <dan@dpci.NOSPAM.us>, in
message ID <BlqSc.18061$cK.3293@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, in
the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote:

>Boy, I didn't think of that. I do have a .38 in my bedroom.
>I am the most mellow person you will ever meet. However, if the mood swings
>are really that bad maybe I should have my neighbor lock it up in his gun
>safe. I can't imagine ever using it against a person unless they were
>breaking into my house or trying to hurt my wife.

It may be that your anger management will be fine on tx but it's just
hard to predict.  I know that I have lost my sense of proportion
several times while on the treatment.

>Anyway, thanks for the advise.
>I wish you well.

I don't call it advice myself.  I prefer to call them suggestions.
Advice is usually given by preople who are suitably qualified and I
don't see myself that way.
Best wishes to you as well.

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Don - 11 Aug 2004 21:17 GMT
>I'm not going to say that this is absolutley necessary but I laid in a
>good stock of cheap toothbrushes.  I have been changing them most
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>toothbrush during tx.  I picked mine up from an ASDA (Walmart) store
>for the UK equivalent of about 45 cents each.

I hadn't considered that.  I may do that as well and perhaps shavers
also.  Might be overcautious but better safe than sorry.  

>Regarding non -medical stuff it's probably a good idea to organise
>your bill paying and other practical issues.  The thinking can get
>pretty foggy at times on tx and it's easy to forget things.  Try to
>keep life simple while on it.

I think it's always a good idea to keep life simple.  By all means
setup autopays and use an online bill paying service.  
buster - 12 Aug 2004 01:58 GMT
I would suggest saline spray for your nose booger!

> Hi All,
>
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>
> Dan Perlman
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 12 Aug 2004 02:28 GMT
Don't forget to stock up on toilet paper!
Elmo

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Susie Quill - 12 Aug 2004 09:44 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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>
> Dan Perlman

You might want to make sure you have some stuff to help with side effects.
You could have a fever at first, so wouldn't hurt to have a thermometer on
hand, along with something for a fever. Check with your doc as to what to
use as some things are too hard on the liver.   Skin can be a problem during
treatment.  You may wish to make sure you have something that would be easy
on the skin in bathing.
I had serious problems with dry scalp for a while, and found that
anti-dandruff shampoos helped some.
Of course, you've probably already heard to plan on drinking lots of water.
I find that if I keep plenty of ice on hand that I drink water better.  I
stop on the way home every Friday and buy another bag of ice for the week.
You might want something for up-set stomach and/or nausea.
Getting a haircut was a great idea someone mentioned.  I have found it so
hard to get in to get a haircut, so starting off with a haircut is probably
a good idea.
If you have errands that you know have to be taken care of in the next
couple of months, might want to get them out of the way....if possible.
Just a few ideas for whatever it is worth.
Susie
Agua Girl - 12 Aug 2004 15:41 GMT
> You might want to make sure you have some stuff to help with side effects.
> You could have a fever at first, so wouldn't hurt to have a thermometer on
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> couple of months, might want to get them out of the way....if possible.
> Just a few ideas for whatever it is worth.

All good ones.  I wish I had gotten a hair cut.  Its not that you never
feel good enough to get one but if your one of those that has to
schedule an appointment it can be down right impossible.
I did stock up on anything my doc said I could take for the side
effects.  On Fridays when I do my shot I take liguid tylenol "night time"
before going to bed and I find I can usually sleep 6 hours straight..
seemingly through the worse of the immediate effects.

She's also right about the skin.  If you weren't in the habit of using
lotion before you may want to get into it.  Seems to help keep the
dryness to a minimum.    Good insights everyone...wish I had thought
to ask you all.

AG

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Gordo Mondragon - 13 Aug 2004 17:02 GMT
[...]

> You might want to make sure you have some stuff to help with side effects.
> You could have a fever at first, so wouldn't hurt to have a thermometer on
> hand, along with something for a fever. Check with your doc as to what to
> use as some things are too hard on the liver.   Skin can be a problem during
> treatment.  You may wish to make sure you have something that would be easy
> on the skin in bathing.

I live just outside of NYC and it's pretty humid here now so two
months into treatment I'm not getting any dry skin problems.  I'm
already thinking about winter, though, when things get rough.  What
works for me in the driest months is to keep unscented oil in the
shower and when I'm done showering and before I dry off, I rub it all
over my body.  It doesn't leave me greasy (although the tub gets nasty
fast) and makes a big difference.  I'm not sensitive to plain mineral
oil but some people are.

> I had serious problems with dry scalp for a while, and found that
> anti-dandruff shampoos helped some.

Can you share the names of what brands worked for you?  

Gordo
Booger - 13 Aug 2004 21:43 GMT
Hey Gordo,

If your'e looking for a good anit-danderuf shampoo.
I get it bad in the winter. I use neutragena T-Gel.

It's the only thing that has ever worked for me and it works really well.

Have a good one.

Dan

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> Gordo
Gordo Mondragon - 13 Aug 2004 22:04 GMT
> Hey Gordo,
>
> If your'e looking for a good anit-danderuf shampoo.
> I get it bad in the winter. I use neutragena T-Gel.
>
> It's the only thing that has ever worked for me and it works really well.

That's amazing stuff, it works for me as well.  

It just doesn't seem right, though, to have a Neutrogena product that's
basically coal tar.
Susie Quill - 14 Aug 2004 01:55 GMT
> [...]
>
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>
> Gordo

Gordo, I've just been using Head and Shoulders shampoo and conditioner.  I
know there are better ones, but I couldn't get them here.I think the
conditioner is really important.  I also went and had an oil treatment and
that helped a little.
I couldn't figure out what was going on at first  as I'd never had problems
with my scalp like that before.  Really miserable, but it has gotten
gradually better.

Susie
 
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