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Anonymous - 28 Mar 2004 19:28 GMT
?
?"A.Melon" wrote:
?>
?> In article <UTL8c.1179$yN6.887@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
?> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote:
?> > Thanks Susie,
?> > This entire process seems to be the ultimate in our marvelous medical
?> > industry.  Just kidding, yesterday my insurance company called and said my
?> > first delivery would have to go my doctors office.  When I protested the
?> > idiot woman said she would pull my records (why is she calling me without
?> > them?).  Five minutes later she informed me that "I guess that was someone
?> > else.  We can ship your medication to your house with no problem."  My
?> > doctors nurse hasnt called to give me the results of my last tests either.
?>
?> I guess they must all be *idiots* then? Never mind that they have to deal with
?> a million other patients who all have *busy schedules* and think they are the
?> most important thing in the universe. Never mind that the *idiot* woman
?> probably had to wait while a networked computer crawled along with her as it's
?> lowest priority. Never mind that the *idiot* woman probably had people telling
?> her to hurry up and do a hundred other things that needed doing. Never mind
?> that the *idiot* woman probably has problems of her own, like maybe a family
?> member is dying or a child, is being born, or "how the hell am I going to get
?> time to put a new tyre on the car"? Never mind that she has to spend each and
?> every day dealing with *arrogant* *self-centered* people on the phone who think
?> she is an *idiot*?

Agreed, but you have to admit that at times some of the office
staff can be very rude and controlling and abrasive.  the best
way to handle it is to realize that you are not their only
patient, that it is a health care situation and that if an
emergency comes up with another patient and the doctor has to
attend to that patient, and it only took her five minutes to pul
the records, julie is lucky she didnt' have to pull them from
the back room at the doctors office.  Oh that is right, she was
dealing with an insurance person, who deals with many more
patient records and doctors offices thn just julies doctor.  IN
other words be Patient, Patient.

?>
?> > My meds are now scheduled to arrive Friday, but because of my weekly
?> > schedule I want to make Wednesday my shot day.  While this delay is
?> > discouraging it's a good thing actually because I came down with one of the
?> > worst colds (maybe flu) I have ever had.  It seems like I'm getting a
?> > preview of what to come and it has pointed out that I need to figure out how
?> > I am going to get and prepare food for myself for the next 48 weeks.
?>
?> That is so difficult isn't it? I mean it is so hard just to pick up an apple
?> and chew, or a banana and chew, or a bunch of grapes and chew, or even to pick
?> up the phone and have a pizza delivered. I'm just sitting here worrying what I
?> am going to eat in 48 weeks time. Hell, should I schedule soup for that day, or
?> roast beef?

For some reason Julie thinks that this is going to be alot like
her Chemo therapy for cancer treatment, It is NOT that bad.  I
dont' think that anyone in here has ever undergone Chemo
therapy, so while they may have some valid sides, thhose sides
are not going to be insurmountable.  Julie if you keep thinking
that this is the same it is NOT.
Why don't you try to relax a bit, and take one day at a time.  
Compare the two treatments with one another, the sides are not
as debilitating as what you have previosuly experienced.  You
can't have this mind set before you even begin treatment.  Try
to find the differneces.  The doses are not nearly as high as
what you have already been through, in fact they are very light
doses.  Relax.

?>
?> > I have
?> > taken care of every thing and everyone else, but totally forgot about my
?> > need to eat.
?> > I also have to move one of my PC's to my bedroom.  Walking downstairs to use
?> > it just isn't going to work.
?>
?> Well if that doesn't excel in being *neat and tidy* then I don't know what
?> does. I think that AUK should give an award for *neat and tidyness*, and that
?> you should win it.

She thinks that this treamtnet is just as debilitating as her
Chemo for Cancer.  It is not the same animal Julie.  It is ok to
get preparred this way becasue you have been through chemo, but
the two are not the same animal.

?>
?> > I'm heading back to bed so I can rest up for this coming Wednesday.
?> > Keep me in your thoughts,
?> > Julie
?>
?> Yes, you rest up. It is so hard to stick that needle in and pop that pill. You
?> should have at least eight people round to watch you do it.
?>
?> > PS
?> > Is it possible to even get a cold or flu while doing this treatment?
?>
?> It's even possible to get run over by a bus, or get hit by a meteorite, or even
?> fall out of bed? Why the possibilities in life are endless. Tell you what, why
?> don't you sit down and work out the value of Pi just to pass the time and take
?> your mind off things?
Anonymous - 28 Mar 2004 21:26 GMT
?
?"A.Melon" wrote:
?>
?> In article <UTL8c.1179$yN6.887@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
?> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote:
?> > Thanks Susie,
?> > This entire process seems to be the ultimate in our marvelous medical
?> > industry.  Just kidding, yesterday my insurance company called and said my
?> > first delivery would have to go my doctors office.  When I protested the
?> > idiot woman said she would pull my records (why is she calling me without
?> > them?).  Five minutes later she informed me that "I guess that was someone
?> > else.  We can ship your medication to your house with no problem."  My
?> > doctors nurse hasnt called to give me the results of my last tests either.
?>
?> I guess they must all be *idiots* then? Never mind that they have to deal with
?> a million other patients who all have *busy schedules* and think they are the
?> most important thing in the universe. Never mind that the *idiot* woman
?> probably had to wait while a networked computer crawled along with her as it's
?> lowest priority. Never mind that the *idiot* woman probably had people telling
?> her to hurry up and do a hundred other things that needed doing. Never mind
?> that the *idiot* woman probably has problems of her own, like maybe a family
?> member is dying or a child, is being born, or "how the hell am I going to get
?> time to put a new tyre on the car"? Never mind that she has to spend each and
?> every day dealing with *arrogant* *self-centered* people on the phone who think
?> she is an *idiot*?

Agreed, but you have to admit that at times some of the office
staff can be very rude and controlling and abrasive.  the best
way to handle it is to realize that you are not their only
patient, that it is a health care situation and that if an
emergency comes up with another patient and the doctor has to
attend to that patient, and it only took her five minutes to
pull the records, julie is lucky she didn't have to pull them
from the back room at the doctors office.  Oh that is right, she
was dealing with an insurance person, who deals with 'many' more
patient records and doctors offices then just julies doctor.  IN
other words be Patient, Patient.

?>
?> > My meds are now scheduled to arrive Friday, but because of my weekly
?> > schedule I want to make Wednesday my shot day.  While this delay is
?> > discouraging it's a good thing actually because I came down with one of the
?> > worst colds (maybe flu) I have ever had.  It seems like I'm getting a
?> > preview of what to come and it has pointed out that I need to figure out how
?> > I am going to get and prepare food for myself for the next 48 weeks.
?>
?> That is so difficult isn't it? I mean it is so hard just to pick up an apple
?> and chew, or a banana and chew, or a bunch of grapes and chew, or even to pick
?> up the phone and have a pizza delivered. I'm just sitting here worrying what I
?> am going to eat in 48 weeks time. Hell, should I schedule soup for that day, or
?> roast beef?

For some reason Julie thinks that this is going to be alot like
her Chemo therapy for cancer treatment, It is NOT that bad.  I
don't think that anyone in here has ever undergone Chemo
therapy, so while they may have some valid sides, those sides
are not going to be insurmountable.  Julie if you keep thinking
that this is the same it is NOT.
Why don't you try to relax a bit, and take one day at a time.  
Compare the two treatments with one another, the sides are not
as debilitating as what you have previosuly experienced.  You
can't have this mind set before you even begin treatment.  Try
to find the differences.  The doses are not nearly as high as
what you have already been through, in fact they are very light
doses.  Relax.

?>
?> > I have
?> > taken care of every thing and everyone else, but totally forgot about my
?> > need to eat.
?> > I also have to move one of my PC's to my bedroom.  Walking downstairs to use
?> > it just isn't going to work.
?>
?> Well if that doesn't excel in being *neat and tidy* then I don't know what
?> does. I think that AUK should give an award for *neat and tidyness*, and that
?> you should win it.

She thinks that this treatment is just as debilitating as her
Chemo for Cancer.  It is not the same animal Julie.  It is ok to
get prepared this way because you have been through chemo, but
the two are not the same animal.

?>
?> > I'm heading back to bed so I can rest up for this coming Wednesday.
?> > Keep me in your thoughts,
?> > Julie
?>
?> Yes, you rest up. It is so hard to stick that needle in and pop that pill. You
?> should have at least eight people round to watch you do it.
?>
?> > PS
?> > Is it possible to even get a cold or flu while doing this treatment?
?>
?> It's even possible to get run over by a bus, or get hit by a meteorite, or even
?> fall out of bed? Why the possibilities in life are endless. Tell you what, why
?> don't you sit down and work out the value of Pi just to pass the time and take
?> your mind off things?
Anonymous - 28 Mar 2004 23:51 GMT
?
?"A.Melon" wrote:
?>
?> In article <UTL8c.1179$yN6.887@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
?> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote:
?> > Thanks Susie,
?> > This entire process seems to be the ultimate in our marvelous medical
?> > industry.  Just kidding, yesterday my insurance company called and said my
?> > first delivery would have to go my doctors office.  When I protested the
?> > idiot woman said she would pull my records (why is she calling me without
?> > them?).  Five minutes later she informed me that "I guess that was someone
?> > else.  We can ship your medication to your house with no problem."  My
?> > doctors nurse hasnt called to give me the results of my last tests either.
?>
?> I guess they must all be *idiots* then? Never mind that they have to deal with
?> a million other patients who all have *busy schedules* and think they are the
?> most important thing in the universe. Never mind that the *idiot* woman
?> probably had to wait while a networked computer crawled along with her as it's
?> lowest priority. Never mind that the *idiot* woman probably had people telling
?> her to hurry up and do a hundred other things that needed doing. Never mind
?> that the *idiot* woman probably has problems of her own, like maybe a family
?> member is dying or a child, is being born, or "how the hell am I going to get
?> time to put a new tyre on the car"? Never mind that she has to spend each and
?> every day dealing with *arrogant* *self-centered* people on the phone who think
?> she is an *idiot*?

Agreed, but you have to admit that at times some of the office
staff can be very rude and controlling and abrasive.  the best
way to handle it is to realize that you are not their only
patient, that it is a health care situation and that if an
emergency comes up with another patient and the doctor has to
attend to that patient, and it only took her five minutes to
pull the records, julie is lucky she didn't have to pull them
from the back room at the doctors office.  Oh that is right, she
was dealing with an insurance person, who deals with 'many' more
patient records and doctors offices then just julies doctor.  IN
other words be Patient, Patient.

?>
?> > My meds are now scheduled to arrive Friday, but because of my weekly
?> > schedule I want to make Wednesday my shot day.  While this delay is
?> > discouraging it's a good thing actually because I came down with one of the
?> > worst colds (maybe flu) I have ever had.  It seems like I'm getting a
?> > preview of what to come and it has pointed out that I need to figure out how
?> > I am going to get and prepare food for myself for the next 48 weeks.
?>
?> That is so difficult isn't it? I mean it is so hard just to pick up an apple
?> and chew, or a banana and chew, or a bunch of grapes and chew, or even to pick
?> up the phone and have a pizza delivered. I'm just sitting here worrying what I
?> am going to eat in 48 weeks time. Hell, should I schedule soup for that day, or
?> roast beef?

For some reason Julie thinks that this is going to be alot like
her Chemo therapy for cancer treatment, It is NOT that bad.  I
don't think that anyone in here has ever undergone Chemo
therapy, so while they may have some valid sides, those sides
are not going to be insurmountable.  Julie if you keep thinking
that this is the same it is NOT.
Why don't you try to relax a bit, and take one day at a time.  
Compare the two treatments with one another, the sides are not
as debilitating as what you have previosuly experienced.  You
can't have this mind set before you even begin treatment.  Try
to find the differences.  The doses are not nearly as high as
what you have already been through, in fact they are very light
doses.  Relax.

?>
?> > I have
?> > taken care of every thing and everyone else, but totally forgot about my
?> > need to eat.
?> > I also have to move one of my PC's to my bedroom.  Walking downstairs to use
?> > it just isn't going to work.
?>
?> Well if that doesn't excel in being *neat and tidy* then I don't know what
?> does. I think that AUK should give an award for *neat and tidyness*, and that
?> you should win it.

She thinks that this treatment is just as debilitating as her
Chemo for Cancer.  It is not the same animal Julie.  It is ok to
get prepared this way because you have been through chemo, but
the two are not the same animal.

?>
?> > I'm heading back to bed so I can rest up for this coming Wednesday.
?> > Keep me in your thoughts,
?> > Julie
?>
?> Yes, you rest up. It is so hard to stick that needle in and pop that pill. You
?> should have at least eight people round to watch you do it.
?>
?> > PS
?> > Is it possible to even get a cold or flu while doing this treatment?
?>
?> It's even possible to get run over by a bus, or get hit by a meteorite, or even
?> fall out of bed? Why the possibilities in life are endless. Tell you what, why
?> don't you sit down and work out the value of Pi just to pass the time and take
?> your mind off things?
Anonymous - 29 Mar 2004 03:44 GMT
?
?"A.Melon" wrote:
?>
?> In article <UTL8c.1179$yN6.887@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
?> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote:
?> > Thanks Susie,
?> > This entire process seems to be the ultimate in our marvelous medical
?> > industry.  Just kidding, yesterday my insurance company called and said my
?> > first delivery would have to go my doctors office.  When I protested the
?> > idiot woman said she would pull my records (why is she calling me without
?> > them?).  Five minutes later she informed me that "I guess that was someone
?> > else.  We can ship your medication to your house with no problem."  My
?> > doctors nurse hasnt called to give me the results of my last tests either.
?>
?> I guess they must all be *idiots* then? Never mind that they have to deal with
?> a million other patients who all have *busy schedules* and think they are the
?> most important thing in the universe. Never mind that the *idiot* woman
?> probably had to wait while a networked computer crawled along with her as it's
?> lowest priority. Never mind that the *idiot* woman probably had people telling
?> her to hurry up and do a hundred other things that needed doing. Never mind
?> that the *idiot* woman probably has problems of her own, like maybe a family
?> member is dying or a child, is being born, or "how the hell am I going to get
?> time to put a new tyre on the car"? Never mind that she has to spend each and
?> every day dealing with *arrogant* *self-centered* people on the phone who think
?> she is an *idiot*?

Agreed, but you have to admit that at times some of the office
staff can be very rude and controlling and abrasive.  the best
way to handle it is to realize that you are not their only
patient, that it is a health care situation and that if an
emergency comes up with another patient and the doctor has to
attend to that patient, and it only took her five minutes to
pull the records, julie is lucky she didn't have to pull them
from the back room at the doctors office.  Oh that is right, she
was dealing with an insurance person, who deals with 'many' more
patient records and doctors offices then just julies doctor.  IN
other words be Patient, Patient.

?>
?> > My meds are now scheduled to arrive Friday, but because of my weekly
?> > schedule I want to make Wednesday my shot day.  While this delay is
?> > discouraging it's a good thing actually because I came down with one of the
?> > worst colds (maybe flu) I have ever had.  It seems like I'm getting a
?> > preview of what to come and it has pointed out that I need to figure out how
?> > I am going to get and prepare food for myself for the next 48 weeks.
?>
?> That is so difficult isn't it? I mean it is so hard just to pick up an apple
?> and chew, or a banana and chew, or a bunch of grapes and chew, or even to pick
?> up the phone and have a pizza delivered. I'm just sitting here worrying what I
?> am going to eat in 48 weeks time. Hell, should I schedule soup for that day, or
?> roast beef?

For some reason Julie thinks that this is going to be alot like
her Chemo therapy for cancer treatment, It is NOT that bad.  I
don't think that anyone in here has ever undergone Chemo
therapy, so while they may have some valid sides, those sides
are not going to be insurmountable.  Julie if you keep thinking
that this is the same it is NOT.
Why don't you try to relax a bit, and take one day at a time.  
Compare the two treatments with one another, the sides are not
as debilitating as what you have previosuly experienced.  You
can't have this mind set before you even begin treatment.  Try
to find the differences.  The doses are not nearly as high as
what you have already been through, in fact they are very light
doses.  Relax.

?>
?> > I have
?> > taken care of every thing and everyone else, but totally forgot about my
?> > need to eat.
?> > I also have to move one of my PC's to my bedroom.  Walking downstairs to use
?> > it just isn't going to work.
?>
?> Well if that doesn't excel in being *neat and tidy* then I don't know what
?> does. I think that AUK should give an award for *neat and tidyness*, and that
?> you should win it.

She thinks that this treatment is just as debilitating as her
Chemo for Cancer.  It is not the same animal Julie.  It is ok to
get prepared this way because you have been through chemo, but
the two are not the same animal.

?>
?> > I'm heading back to bed so I can rest up for this coming Wednesday.
?> > Keep me in your thoughts,
?> > Julie
?>
?> Yes, you rest up. It is so hard to stick that needle in and pop that pill. You
?> should have at least eight people round to watch you do it.
?>
?> > PS
?> > Is it possible to even get a cold or flu while doing this treatment?
?>
?> It's even possible to get run over by a bus, or get hit by a meteorite, or even
?> fall out of bed? Why the possibilities in life are endless. Tell you what, why
?> don't you sit down and work out the value of Pi just to pass the time and take
?> your mind off things?
Fritz Wuehler - 29 Mar 2004 06:25 GMT
?
?"A.Melon" wrote:
?>
?> In article <UTL8c.1179$yN6.887@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
?> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote:
?> > Thanks Susie,
?> > This entire process seems to be the ultimate in our marvelous medical
?> > industry.  Just kidding, yesterday my insurance company called and said my
?> > first delivery would have to go my doctors office.  When I protested the
?> > idiot woman said she would pull my records (why is she calling me without
?> > them?).  Five minutes later she informed me that "I guess that was someone
?> > else.  We can ship your medication to your house with no problem."  My
?> > doctors nurse hasnt called to give me the results of my last tests either.
?>
?> I guess they must all be *idiots* then? Never mind that they have to deal with
?> a million other patients who all have *busy schedules* and think they are the
?> most important thing in the universe. Never mind that the *idiot* woman
?> probably had to wait while a networked computer crawled along with her as it's
?> lowest priority. Never mind that the *idiot* woman probably had people telling
?> her to hurry up and do a hundred other things that needed doing. Never mind
?> that the *idiot* woman probably has problems of her own, like maybe a family
?> member is dying or a child, is being born, or "how the hell am I going to get
?> time to put a new tyre on the car"? Never mind that she has to spend each and
?> every day dealing with *arrogant* *self-centered* people on the phone who think
?> she is an *idiot*?

Agreed, but you have to admit that at times some of the office
staff can be very rude and controlling and abrasive.  the best
way to handle it is to realize that you are not their only
patient, that it is a health care situation and that if an
emergency comes up with another patient and the doctor has to
attend to that patient, and it only took her five minutes to
pull the records, julie is lucky she didn't have to pull them
from the back room at the doctors office.  Oh that is right, she
was dealing with an insurance person, who deals with 'many' more
patient records and doctors offices then just julies doctor.  IN
other words be Patient, Patient.

?>
?> > My meds are now scheduled to arrive Friday, but because of my weekly
?> > schedule I want to make Wednesday my shot day.  While this delay is
?> > discouraging it's a good thing actually because I came down with one of the
?> > worst colds (maybe flu) I have ever had.  It seems like I'm getting a
?> > preview of what to come and it has pointed out that I need to figure out how
?> > I am going to get and prepare food for myself for the next 48 weeks.
?>
?> That is so difficult isn't it? I mean it is so hard just to pick up an apple
?> and chew, or a banana and chew, or a bunch of grapes and chew, or even to pick
?> up the phone and have a pizza delivered. I'm just sitting here worrying what I
?> am going to eat in 48 weeks time. Hell, should I schedule soup for that day, or
?> roast beef?

For some reason Julie thinks that this is going to be alot like
her Chemo therapy for cancer treatment, It is NOT that bad.  I
don't think that anyone in here has ever undergone Chemo
therapy, so while they may have some valid sides, those sides
are not going to be insurmountable.  Julie if you keep thinking
that this is the same it is NOT.
Why don't you try to relax a bit, and take one day at a time.  
Compare the two treatments with one another, the sides are not
as debilitating as what you have previosuly experienced.  You
can't have this mind set before you even begin treatment.  Try
to find the differences.  The doses are not nearly as high as
what you have already been through, in fact they are very light
doses.  Relax.

?>
?> > I have
?> > taken care of every thing and everyone else, but totally forgot about my
?> > need to eat.
?> > I also have to move one of my PC's to my bedroom.  Walking downstairs to use
?> > it just isn't going to work.
?>
?> Well if that doesn't excel in being *neat and tidy* then I don't know what
?> does. I think that AUK should give an award for *neat and tidyness*, and that
?> you should win it.

She thinks that this treatment is just as debilitating as her
Chemo for Cancer.  It is not the same animal Julie.  It is ok to
get prepared this way because you have been through chemo, but
the two are not the same animal.

?>
?> > I'm heading back to bed so I can rest up for this coming Wednesday.
?> > Keep me in your thoughts,
?> > Julie
?>
?> Yes, you rest up. It is so hard to stick that needle in and pop that pill. You
?> should have at least eight people round to watch you do it.
?>
?> > PS
?> > Is it possible to even get a cold or flu while doing this treatment?
?>
?> It's even possible to get run over by a bus, or get hit by a meteorite, or even
?> fall out of bed? Why the possibilities in life are endless. Tell you what, why
?> don't you sit down and work out the value of Pi just to pass the time and take
?> your mind off things?
A.Melon - 29 Mar 2004 11:11 GMT
> ?
> ?"A.Melon" wrote:
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> patient records and doctors offices thn just julies doctor.  IN
> other words be Patient, Patient.

What about back in the days before the computer printed out your prescription,
and the doctor's writing resembled a spider dipped in ink and allowed to run
over the paper. The pharmacists were always getting my thyroid hormone dosage
wrong back then, but never once did I call any of them *idiots*. I had some
copies of my medical records yaknow, and it is the most difficult thing in the
world to read doctors' handwriting. I think that in med school they have
lessons on writing like spiders.

> ?> > My meds are now scheduled to arrive Friday, but because of my weekly
> ?> > schedule I want to make Wednesday my shot day.  While this delay is
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> are not going to be insurmountable.  Julie if you keep thinking
> that this is the same it is NOT.

I see what you mean. I didn't know she had had throat cancer. I'm just
wondering if she talks like a Dalek now. "Exterminate anything not neat and
tidy - Exterminate - Kill....."

> Why don't you try to relax a bit, and take one day at a time.
> Compare the two treatments with one another, the sides are not
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> what you have already been through, in fact they are very light
> doses.  Relax.

Even I feel reassured now, but I bet she thinks you are me and gets mad.

> ?>
> ?> > I have
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> get preparred this way becasue you have been through chemo, but
> the two are not the same animal.

I can see where she's coming from now. However that doesn't change the fact
that she is being neat and tidy and listens to nasty gossipers who are simply
going to get exactly what they deserve.

Yaknow when I received a friendly email from one of those "good" people telling
me that "so and so is a psychopath", I thought, "What a mean vindictive
person." and put her in my kill-file. Later on that same person was crowing
about "Her God" and acting so self-righteous it wasn't true.
Yaknow I can never understand the mentality of people who listen to gossip.
I remember years ago we were working on a whole street of houses, and these
hags were always warning us about this "That woman at No 7". They all had their
statues of Mary on the walls and their crucifixes, and yet their bathrooms and
kitchens were so filthy that I turned down every offer of a drink while we
worked. We got to No 7 and it was such a lovely house, the woman was a lovely
person and she gave us drinks and even baked a cake while we were working
there. The "bad woman at No 7" was the nicest woman in the street and all the
hags hated her with a passion.

Kinda like this newsgroup where all the hags told me bad things about Hoof, yet
Hoof was one of the few I liked talking to from the start. Seems like the hags
are now taking a dislike to Robin too.
Anonymous - 29 Mar 2004 16:30 GMT
"A.Melon" wrote:

?> Kinda like this newsgroup where all the hags told me bad things about Hoof, yet
?> Hoof was one of the few I liked talking to from the start. Seems like the hags
?> are now taking a dislike to Robin too.

I can see that..  Robin can hold her own that is for sure.
 
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