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Tazodone Is A Bust

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BeatHepC - 24 Mar 2004 12:57 GMT
Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
Trazodone (100mg.) is the latest to miss the mark. Anyone have any success
with a drug (legal) that can both put you out and keep you there - for more
than 4 hours at a clip?

BeatHepC
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 24 Mar 2004 13:18 GMT

Tazodone Is A Bust  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2004, 6:57am From:
beathepc
Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep
nights anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed,
now the Trazodone (100mg.) is the latest to miss the mark. Anyone have
any success with a drug (legal) that can both put you out and keep you
there - for more than 4 hours at a clip?
BeatHepC
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Sorry, the best ones are illegal.  
Elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 15:29 GMT
I know of one, it is called UNISOM,  Works great!!  You sleep at least 7
hours per night.
don't buy the gel kind, 'buy the pill' form.  Is a different medicine.
the only thing is that it is OTC, so you won't be breaking any laws and
you won't be seeing your doctor for a script.
Hoof

> Tazodone Is A Bust
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> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 15:36 GMT
> I know of one, it is called UNISOM,  Works great!!  You sleep at least 7
> hours per night.
> don't buy the gel kind, 'buy the pill' form.  Is a different medicine.
> the only thing is that it is OTC, so you won't be breaking any laws and
> you won't be seeing your doctor for a script.
> Hoof

Oh and you don't have a hangover in the morning, It is a close cousin of
a sleeper my doctor gave me when I first started to work the night shift
and had problems sleeping during the day.
The gel form is only Benedryl, the pill form or sleep tabs as they call
it on the package, is doxylamine succinate.
Hoof

> > Tazodone Is A Bust
> >
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> > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
Alias - 24 Mar 2004 13:19 GMT
"BeatHepC" <beathepc>wrote:

> Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
> anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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>
> BeatHepC

Try smoking some pot.

Alias
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 24 Mar 2004 13:21 GMT
Ask your doc for a script for sodium pentathol.  If that doesn't do it,
you're sh.t out of luck.  
Elmo

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heppiechik - 24 Mar 2004 17:16 GMT
> Ask your doc for a script for sodium pentathol.  If that doesn't do it,
> you're sh.t out of luck.
> Elmo

Is that legal?
We used that to put people to sleep (anesthesia)with that in the OR
hc
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 25 Mar 2004 02:40 GMT

Re: Tazodone Is A Bust  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2004, 10:16am (EST-1)
From: canyougetmenow@eatspam.spam (heppiechik)
<elmoemerson@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:28127-40617D64-33@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
Ask your doc for a script for sodium pentathol. If that doesn't do it,
you're sh.t out of luck.
Elmo
Is that legal?
We used that to put people to sleep (anesthesia)with that in the OR hc
............
It must have been legal if you used it in the OR.  That's the only place
I've ever known it used.  If our friend can get a script for it,
.........   I was only kidding!!
It's not the sort of thing you want to try at home.  LOL
Elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
heppiechik - 25 Mar 2004 03:32 GMT
> Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
>
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> It's not the sort of thing you want to try at home.  LOL
> Elmo

But it knocks them out fast!
hc
Dwight - 25 Mar 2004 04:17 GMT
Every time I've ever tried it I don't remember having a restful sleep
and I always wake up in the hospital in pain and have to wait a few days
before I can go home.  Besides, it ended up costing more than any
illegal drug I've ever heard of. :)
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>>Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
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> But it knocks them out fast!
> hc
Anonymous - 25 Mar 2004 05:50 GMT
> Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
>
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> It's not the sort of thing you want to try at home.  LOL
> Elmo

Isn't sodium pentathol (although I thought it was spelt pentathanol) the stuff
that makes you tell the *truth*?

Surely that should be avoided by all *feral cave dwellers*?

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Shawn - 24 Mar 2004 14:50 GMT
Try a combo of ambein and Remerol. I knocks me down for
about 10 hours.

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Regards,
      Shawn
.

> Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
> anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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>
> BeatHepC
Susie Quill - 24 Mar 2004 15:17 GMT
How about over the counter??  I take 5-HTP.  That is
5 hydroxytryptophan.  Tryptophan is illegal because it was contaminated and
made a lot of people sick years ago.
5-HTP is the precursor, and is legal..  If you have a serotonin problem
causing the sleep problem, the 5-HTP could help.  Also, melatonin may help
some.  I take both.  When one stops working for me, I switch to the other.
I've tried trazadone, ambien, and others. They didn't work for me.   These
work o.k.  Not a cure, but they help.    Also, a serotonin re-uptake
antidepressant can be helpful.....not for the depression part, but because
it can also help with sleep.

So, between the two, I can sleep.  It isn't deep sleep, I never feel totally
rested, but I'm a lot better than I used to be.  I even sleep thru the night
sometimes.  Fibromyalgia is a sleep and pain disorder.  I've been looking
for answers for years in my search for deep sleep, and these are the best
I've found.

I read about something the other day on this and darned if I can remember
what it was now.  Green Tea.  Green Tea has something in it that helps to
relax people and may increase sleep from what I remember.  Catechins I
think.  Well, I;ll look for the article.  It is in one of my professional
newsletters I think.

Susie

> Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
> anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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>
> BeatHepC
heppiechik - 24 Mar 2004 17:09 GMT
I got back on my Remeron (Mirtazapine 30mg - antidepressant) and slept last
night for the first time in 2 weeks. I was living off about 3 hours worth of
sleep every night. Now I still wake up about every 2-3 hours and look at the
clock but I'm able to go right back to sleep. I was also very busy yesterday
because I felt good and so I didn't lay around all day. I think that had a
lot to do with it also.
hc

> Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
> anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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>
> BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 17:51 GMT
Seriously Heppie, try the Unisom Sleep tabs, they tested it against
Dalmane ( flurazepam)  Read the literature on it, With Dalmane the
subjects woke up 0.9 times per night, with the doxylamine they woke up
1.2 times per night.
They concluded in 88 that the difference between the two in the nuimber
of awakenings and restfulness are clinically insignificant.
Try it!!
The doctor could not prescribe the Dalmane for over a year due to the
drug classification of Dalmane, he recommended the unisom tabs.
hoof

> I got back on my Remeron (Mirtazapine 30mg - antidepressant) and slept last
> night for the first time in 2 weeks. I was living off about 3 hours worth of
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> >
> > BeatHepC
heppiechik - 24 Mar 2004 18:54 GMT
Thanks Hoof. I'll check it out the next time I'm out and about.
hc

> Seriously Heppie, try the Unisom Sleep tabs, they tested it against
> Dalmane ( flurazepam)  Read the literature on it, With Dalmane the
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> > >
> > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 20:08 GMT
You can buy a small package or I don't remember how many.  I still use
it but I have increased my dose to 50 mg instead of the 25mg.
BTW there is no real substitute for the brand name.  Don't know why that
is, but there isn't.  some companies are putting out their own generic
version, I have tried them, but they don't work as well.
Sorry you are having a hard time sleeping.  I hate that, not fun and you
feel drugged and dragging all day long.
Hoof
I just am about finished mowing the back yard, about time.  I ran over a
pop up sprinkler though and it is one of the expensive kind.
I have been looking at property online in Texas.  Found a couple of
places that I thought I might like.  one is in Concan the other in
Weimar and one  other near the coast, looks like a peninsula on the
map.  I checked with an old online friend and she told me that Concan is
a great place.  Then I checked with an old rl friend who i have known
for years through the Arabian Horse club.  He had moved to Texas years
ago and tells me that he hated it there, too much wind, and hail and he
says that while housing is cheaper there other stuff is higher than here
in California.  I am waiting for another response from him on the
property taxes there. It looks to me like you all pay around 2% of the
property value, while out here I am paying 1%.  So do you own your own
home, if so what percent of the purchase price or property valuation are
you paying.
TIA
Hoof

> Thanks Hoof. I'll check it out the next time I'm out and about.
> hc
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> > > >
> > > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 20:13 GMT
PS:  the thing about taking those anti d's for sleep is that they give
you cotton mouth and can cause weight gain.
Unisom doesn't do this.  And when I was on the Dalmane, I was on the
lowest dose available, 15 mg. The comparison with Dalmane vs Unisom was
done with 30 mg of Dalmane.

> You can buy a small package or I don't remember how many.  I still use
> it but I have increased my dose to 50 mg instead of the 25mg.
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> > > > > BeatHepC
heppiechik - 24 Mar 2004 23:01 GMT
I pay about 2%
hc

> You can buy a small package or I don't remember how many.  I still use
> it but I have increased my dose to 50 mg instead of the 25mg.
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> > > > >
> > > > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 23:36 GMT
So what is higher I wonder?
I think the cost of gasoline is far cheaper than here.
I know when I visited my daughter in Florida years ago the fruits and
veggies and stuff were higher, the gasoline cheaper, the property was
also cheaper or so it seemed.  You are in the USA so can't be imported
anything.
I wonder what he is talking about it is higher there.  unless he meant
hay and stuff.  He went to farrier school there and he certainly didn't
charge me near what they charge out here, ( I dont' even get charged as
much as the peeps on the coast get charged by my current farrier)  I
wonder what the heck he is talking about.
He also said there were a lot of bugs there depending on where in Texas
you lived.  he lived in West Texas and they moved back to California a
few years ago.
Hoof

> I pay about 2%
> hc
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> > > > > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 24 Mar 2004 23:38 GMT
Do you pay sales tax?  Our is all different out here since the Bay
Bridge disappeared in teh bay.  I pay 7.25 % some places it is 7.5% and
my auto license is incredibly high, except that that is supposed to
change. I am not holding my breath on that one anymore.
Hoof

> So what is higher I wonder?
> I think the cost of gasoline is far cheaper than here.
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> > > > > > > BeatHepC
heppiechik - 25 Mar 2004 00:18 GMT
No sales tax on groceries but on other things I think is 7.75%
hc

> Do you pay sales tax?  Our is all different out here since the Bay
> Bridge disappeared in teh bay.  I pay 7.25 % some places it is 7.5% and
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 25 Mar 2004 00:40 GMT
Wow!!  Not much difference than here, we don't pay sales tax on
groceries either, but we do on snack foods etc.
Your gasoline is cheaper by about 60¢.  Damn, but your property is so
cheap compared to here, I can sell this place buy a better place there
and still have money in my pocket, but my property tax is twice as much
as here.
I know the price of hay in Florida was was higher here and the bales
didn't weigh as much as the ones out here, they were half the size.
I found some really nice places, I think I am going to scrap that one
and look elsewhere.
I considered Oregon years ago, then I found out their property taxes
were 3%.  A trade off back then as they don't have sales tax or license
fees etc.  but here you tax depends on how much you buy.
Thanks Heppie
Hoof

> No sales tax on groceries but on other things I think is 7.75%
> hc
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> > > > > > > > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 25 Mar 2004 00:43 GMT
One other thing, do they give you all mineral rights when you buy your
property?
Out here they don't and they have a lot of oil fields down in
Bakersfield.
Hoof

> Wow!!  Not much difference than here, we don't pay sales tax on
> groceries either, but we do on snack foods etc.
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> > > > > > > > > > BeatHepC
heppiechik - 25 Mar 2004 02:19 GMT
I'm not sure about that.
hc

> One other thing, do they give you all mineral rights when you buy your
> property?
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> > > > > > > > > > > BeatHepC
HoofPrints - 25 Mar 2004 03:52 GMT
Thanks heppie, I just know there is oil down under my property and they
won't allow me to pump it out.  I can always disguise the pumps by
making them look like dunking ducks, but I need a silencer so no one
will know.
I don't know who owns the mineral rights, it isn't me though.
hoof

> I'm not sure about that.
> hc
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> > > > > > > > > > > > BeatHepC
Dwight - 25 Mar 2004 04:08 GMT
Hoof, it's the same way here in Texas.  My family doesn't own much land
anymore, but we do still have the mineral rights from my grandparents
and great grandparents land.  Of course my parents and grandparents all
came from big families so after everything is said and done I think my
parents' share is enough for them to go out and eat a nice meal once a
month. :)

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HoofPrints - 25 Mar 2004 04:13 GMT
So the original owners of the property retained their mineral rights?
In that case it is a developer who is in prison for some white collar
crime.
I think it is in my papers, I just get so far reading them and see that
i don't have any rights and skip or forget the name.
That is cool that you have the mineral rights.
There is nothing in my papers which say I have to let you on my property
though to allow you to dig for those minerals.
Hoof

> Hoof, it's the same way here in Texas.  My family doesn't own much land
> anymore, but we do still have the mineral rights from my grandparents
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>
> Dragon Slayers' Club:  http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/
Dwight - 25 Mar 2004 06:10 GMT
The mineral rights can be sold by the owners, even if they are still
living on the property.  The owner of the property is usually very well
compensated for a right of way.  It has been a long time since I took
business law and I haven't kept up with it since it won't matter by the
time it affects me.
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Dragon Slayers' Club:  http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/

> So the original owners of the property retained their mineral rights?
> In that case it is a developer who is in prison for some white collar
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>>
>>Dragon Slayers' Club:  http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/
HoofPrints - 25 Mar 2004 15:51 GMT
THat is what I am banking on, compensation for the use of a right of
way.
( I dream a lot though Dwight, I don't' see anyone banging on my door
asking if they can do soil tests)  My well is 300'+ and some wells
around here are 500+, and no oil yet)
I took business law in the 70's had a great teacher and learned a few
tricks that I still use and one which puzzles some  major companies even
today.  The run my final payments past their legal depts. and one time
it took them three months to cash my final payment.
The last time I used this very legal trick, i had what i thought was a
final bill, rote the final payment, added the magic words tothe back of
the check and then received another bill, which i ignored.  Their
collections dept contacted me, I said no, I don't' think so you cashed
the check. They said they would contact me via telephone the next day.
No phone calls, finally about 2 weeks letter they wrote me a letter
which stated I don't owe them the final $6.00 payment.
I paid off another bill recently, but no with a written instrument, so
they tried to charge me their BS interest charges.  I pointed out that I
had paid the bill in full on whatever date, and I demanded that they
total their interest rate to the day I was calling so that I would
finally have them out of my hair.  They were charging interest on top of
the interest at a daily rate.  I had closed the card out.  Finally he
decided to write a zero on the balance.  I won't know until I get
another bill from them if he is true to his word.  I hope I never have
to phone them again.  Voice mail is such a drag.
So what is the trick.  Write Acceptance of this check constitutes
payment in full for acct. # XXXXX, if they cash it they can't charge you
any more money. Works every time.  I had lost a rental house in the 70's
because Sears had been charging me .50 a month for my charge card.  I
had paid them off and was totally ignoring the bill because i had paid
them off.  I owed them for 5  months and was in arrears for $2.50.  I
tried to rent a place in Orange County from the Dept. of Transportation.
It was the only place I could find that would rent to a child and a
dog.  I thought I had it made because I was a State Employee, they ran a
check on my credit and because Sears had dinged me for the 2.50 for a
period of 5 months, they wouldn't rent to me.
It took me over 20 years to apply for another sears charge card, in fact
my Ex insisted that I apply for one and we had a fight over it.  
I have used the trick ever since the loss of a roof over my head and it
works quite well.
I am not about to sign off an entire charge card that way though.  That
wouldn't be fair to my creditors who took the gamble on me in the first
place by giving me credit.
Lynne

> The mineral rights can be sold by the owners, even if they are still
> living on the property.  The owner of the property is usually very well
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> >>
> >>Dragon Slayers' Club:  http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/
HoofPrints - 25 Mar 2004 16:16 GMT
> THat is what I am banking on, compensation for the use of a right of
> way.
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> place by giving me credit.
> Lynne

PS: If anyone tries to use these magic words for final payment.
Note:  the magic words must be written on the back of the check where
they sign, not on the front.
Hoof

> > The mineral rights can be sold by the owners, even if they are still
> > living on the property.  The owner of the property is usually very well
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> > >>
> > >>Dragon Slayers' Club:  http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 26 Mar 2004 01:15 GMT
Noone cares about the mineral rights on your rat farm.  
ahahahahahahahahhaha
Elmo
/////////////////////////
THat is what I am banking on, compensation for the use of a right of
way.
( I dream a lot though Dwight, I don't' see anyone banging on my door
asking if they can do soil tests) My well is 300'+ and some wells around
here are 500+, and no oil yet)
I took business law in the 70's had a great teacher and learned a few
tricks that I still use and one which puzzles some major companies even
today. The run my final payments past their legal depts. and one time it
took them three months to cash my final payment. The last time I used
this very legal trick, i had what i thought was a final bill, rote the
final payment, added the magic words tothe back of the check and then
received another bill, which i ignored. Their collections dept contacted
me, I said no, I don't' think so you cashed the check. They said they
would contact me via telephone the next day. No phone calls, finally
about 2 weeks letter they wrote me a letter which stated I don't owe
them the final $6.00 payment. I paid off another bill recently, but no
with a written instrument, so they tried to charge me their BS interest
charges. I pointed out that I had paid the bill in full on whatever
date, and I demanded that they total their interest rate to the day I
was calling so that I would finally have them out of my hair. They were
charging interest on top of the interest at a daily rate. I had closed
the card out. Finally he decided to write a zero on the balance. I won't
know until I get another bill from them if he is true to his word. I
hope I never have to phone them again. Voice mail is such a drag. So
what is the trick. Write Acceptance of this check constitutes payment in
full for acct. # XXXXX, if they cash it they can't charge you any more
money. Works every time. I had lost a rental house in the 70's because
Sears had been charging me .50 a month for my charge card. I had paid
them off and was totally ignoring the bill because i had paid them off.
I owed them for 5 months and was in arrears for $2.50. I tried to rent a
place in Orange County from the Dept. of Transportation. It was the only
place I could find that would rent to a child and a dog. I thought I had
it made because I was a State Employee, they ran a check on my credit
and because Sears had dinged me for the 2.50 for a period of 5 months,
they wouldn't rent to me. It took me over 20 years to apply for another
sears charge card, in fact my Ex insisted that I apply for one and we
had a fight over it. I have used the trick ever since the loss of a roof
over my head and it works quite well.
I am not about to sign off an entire charge card that way though. That
wouldn't be fair to my creditors who took the gamble on me in the first
place by giving me credit.
Lynne
PS: If anyone tries to use these magic words for final payment.
Note: the magic words must be written on the back of the check where
they sign, not on the front.
Hoof
Dwight wrote:
The mineral rights can be sold by the owners, even if they are still
living on the property. The owner of the property is usually very well
compensated for a right of way. It has been a long time since I took
business law and I haven't kept up with it since it won't matter by the
time it affects me.
Signature

Dwight
Dragon Slayers' Club: http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/ 
HoofPrints wrote:
So the original owners of the property retained their mineral rights? In
that case it is a developer who is in prison for some white collar
crime.
I think it is in my papers, I just get so far reading them and see that
i don't have any rights and skip or forget the name. That is cool that
you have the mineral rights. There is nothing in my papers which say I
have to let you on my property though to allow you to dig for those
minerals. Hoof
Dwight wrote:
Hoof, it's the same way here in Texas. My family doesn't own much land
anymore, but we do still have the mineral rights from my grandparents
and great grandparents land. Of course my parents and grandparents all
came from big families so after everything is said and done I think my
parents' share is enough for them to go out and eat a nice meal once a
month. :)
--
Dwight
Dragon Slayers' Club: http://geocities.com/dwightmspage/ 

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile

HoofPrints - 26 Mar 2004 02:06 GMT
> Noone cares about the mineral rights on your rat farm.
> ahahahahahahahahhaha
> Elmo

if you are referring to the rat that the dogs killed around here two
years ago, it is deceased, deader than a doornail, and since this is
country, field mice are as normal as the cockroaches and scorpions at
your homestead.
ahahahahahahahahaha
Hoof
> /////////////////////////
> THat is what I am banking on, compensation for the use of a right of
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>
> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
HoofPrints - 26 Mar 2004 02:12 GMT
> > Noone cares about the mineral rights on your rat farm.
> > ahahahahahahahahhaha
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> ahahahahahahahahaha
> Hoof

Aren't you going to mention the skunks?!?.  Oh that's right you smell
skunk and you think oh boy!!!
Hoof
> > /////////////////////////
> > THat is what I am banking on, compensation for the use of a right of
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> >
> > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 26 Mar 2004 12:23 GMT

Re: Tazodone Is A Bust  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 5:06pm (EST-3)
From: equsphotogphr@hotmail.com (HoofPrints)
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
Noone cares about the mineral rights on your rat farm.
ahahahahahahahahhaha
Elmo
if you are referring to the rat that the dogs killed around here two
years ago, it is deceased, deader than a doornail, and since this is
country, field mice are as normal as the cockroaches and scorpions at
your homestead.
ahahahahahahahahaha
Hoof
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AHA!!!  So you admit to having run a rat farm!   No cockroaches here.
And scorpions in New Jersey?  What have you been drinking this morning?
ahahahahaha
Elmo

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
HoofPrints - 26 Mar 2004 15:24 GMT
> Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
>
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> ahahahahaha
> Elmo

That was last night you nit, not this morning. I live on the West Coast,
aka Pacific standard time, you live on the east coast Eastern Standard
time.  the difference in time zones is 3 hours, so when it is 6 am here
on the West coast it is 9 am on the east coast.  My last post to you was
around 6 PM last night, or 9 pm your time.

Oh Joy!! elmer is relapsing and will be here much longer than
previously expected.
since you have had to have your electric bill shut off you can't see the
cockroaches.

> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
Maryem09 - 26 Mar 2004 19:59 GMT
>HoofPrints equsphotogphr@hotmail.com had this to say:

>Oh Joy!! elmer is relapsing and will be here much longer than
>previously expected.
>since you have had to have your electric bill shut off you can't see the
>cockroaches.

How nice of you Lynne, too bad you didn't use you anon account this time.
haahahahah
HoofPrints - 26 Mar 2004 22:47 GMT
> >HoofPrints equsphotogphr@hotmail.com had this to say:
>
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> How nice of you Lynne, too bad you didn't use you anon account this time.
> haahahahah

Why would poast toasty use an anon account to say OH JOY?!?
Oh I know I just am not being supportive of poor poor widdle bitty baby
elmo right!!
Go to Hell!!  
Hoof
HoofPrints - 26 Mar 2004 22:49 GMT
> > >HoofPrints equsphotogphr@hotmail.com had this to say:
> >
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> Go to Hell!!
> Hoof

Yaknow!! you seem like a whiner to me, maybe you two can lean on one
another and that way you can hold each other up like a pair of crutches.
Hoof
Maryem09 - 27 Mar 2004 22:54 GMT
Hoofy blabbed on three times again:

>Go to Hell!!  
>Hoof

Take it easy honey, don't blow you're top.
HoofPrints - 28 Mar 2004 00:15 GMT
> Hoofy blabbed on three times again:
>
> >Go to Hell!!
> >Hoof
>
> Take it easy honey, don't blow you're top.

You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands, get a real
life, i have enough crap to deal with and don't need to deal with some
little retread floozy with an IQ of 10 on the internet.
Hoof
Anonymous - 28 Mar 2004 04:41 GMT
> > Hoofy blabbed on three times again:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> little retread floozy with an IQ of 10 on the internet.
> Hoof

Lynne it's one of the original CMH clique from many years ago.
Anonymous - 26 Mar 2004 23:19 GMT
> > Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
> >
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>  Oh Joy!! elmer is relapsing and will be here much longer than
> previously expected.

That means hours of fun ahead then.

> since you have had to have your electric bill shut off you can't see the
> cockroaches.

I guess he must have a wind-up web-TV unit then?

-=-
This message was posted via two or more anonymous remailing services.
A.Melon - 26 Mar 2004 11:12 GMT
> Noone cares about the mineral rights on your rat farm.
> ahahahahahahahahhaha
> Elmo

That's not very *supportive* of you is it?

When are you going to smash up your webTV unit amd stop your abuse of this
newsgroup?
elmoemerson@webtv.net - 26 Mar 2004 12:17 GMT

Re: Tazodone Is A Bust  

Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 2:12am (EST-3)
From: juicy@melontraffickers.com (A.Melon)
In article <2583-4063760D-328@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
elmoemerson@webtv.net wrote:
Noone cares about the mineral rights on your rat farm.
ahahahahahahahahhaha
Elmo
That's not very *supportive* of you is it?
When are you going to smash up your webTV unit amd stop your abuse of
this newsgroup?
//////////////////////
Who the f.ck are YOU, anyway?  I'll smash my webtv unit when my friends
here tell me it's ok to do it.  Neither Hoof or you are my friends.  Too
bad Gallagher hasn't hooked up with you yet, Melon Head.  hehehe
Elmo  

http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
HoofPrints - 26 Mar 2004 15:26 GMT
> Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
>
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> bad Gallagher hasn't hooked up with you yet, Melon Head.  hehehe
> Elmo
Besides if you smash it, your best bud out here in the 10' trailer can
always send you another one.  He had picked up a couple of used ones
about the same time as Lorretta showed up on the West Coast, Yaknow time
stamped PST or PDT, not EST or EDT, like you.

> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
A.Melon - 26 Mar 2004 22:08 GMT
> Re: Tazodone Is A Bust
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> bad Gallagher hasn't hooked up with you yet, Melon Head.  hehehe
> Elmo

Would that be Rory Gallagher now then? Did you not know he died of hepatitis a
few years back?

Have you ever listened to yourself threatening violence over a newsgroup?

What a clown you are Elmo. You need some major counselling.
heppiechik - 25 Mar 2004 00:17 GMT
$1.59/gal at Wal-Mart
hc

> So what is higher I wonder?
> I think the cost of gasoline is far cheaper than here.
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BeatHepC
Thip - 24 Mar 2004 23:58 GMT
Have you tried benadryl (diphenhydramine--might have spelled that
wrong--Sominex, etc.)?  Works for me.

| Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
| anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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|
| BeatHepC
dogin - 25 Mar 2004 00:25 GMT
You might keep abreast of ESTORRATM (eszopiclone) which is in FDA approval
stage.  http://www.sepracor.com/science/index.cfm?s=2A it is made by
sepracor.

> Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
> anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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>
> BeatHepC
Julie - 26 Mar 2004 02:56 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll see if my doctor will let me give it a try.
Julie
> You might keep abreast of ESTORRATM (eszopiclone) which is in FDA approval
> stage.  http://www.sepracor.com/science/index.cfm?s=2A it is made by
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> >
> > BeatHepC
Russ - 25 Mar 2004 00:44 GMT
valium? xanax? ativan?  xanax makes me sleep better then any thing. Ambiens
are short acting. I always wake up early with those. I've tried Trazodone,
didn't care for that.

How's your thyroid doing???? Interferon can make your thyroid go zonkers. I
had a real bad time with jitters and sleep for about 3 months. The doc put
me on Atenolol, beta-blockers. Man that was the cat's a.s. Slept good, my
heart quit trying to pound out of my chest. Not to say you have this
problem, but check it out. I'ts horrible not being able to sleep good. I
ended up staying on the Atenolol after trying to get off of it. The jitters
came back, sleeplessness.

Call your BCLD up and point blank ask him what your TSH levels are. If he
don't know then he is wayyyy behind the curve. Not everyone has thyroid
problems, but belive me, when you do you'll know it. That insane tossing and
turning all night, pills not doing a f.cking thing for relief, up at 1am
shoveling the snow off the roof because I can no longer just lay still. I
about killed the cat one night, legs swishing back and forth on my bed,
knock his poor a.s off right into the wall!!! It was like being on crank!!
And I just don't care for that feeling at all.

2 weeks ago the BCLD gave me a few xanax. Now lately I've felt the most
rested I've felt in a long time. I do feel better because of it. Much
calmer.

A nice hit before bed always helps too!!!  ;)

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> Ok - I can't take the spinning-on-a-rotisserie-like, lack-of-sleep nights
> anymore. Ambien (10 mg.) was a waste, Restoril (7.5 mg.) failed, now the
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>
> BeatHepC
Don - 28 Mar 2004 15:10 GMT
>valium? xanax? ativan?  xanax makes me sleep better then any thing. Ambiens
>are short acting. I always wake up early with those. I've tried Trazodone,
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>
>A nice hit before bed always helps too!!!  ;)

Nice hit?  Did the BCLD give you that as well?  I wonder if the doctor
would ok that for tx.  Wonder if Yoga or meditation would be of help.
domino - 25 Mar 2004 04:40 GMT
An Metet - 28 Mar 2004 20:39 GMT
?
?Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
?>
?> In article <40660B2E.2714EC00@hotmail.com>
?> HoofPrints <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
?> >
?> >
?> >
?> > Maryem09 wrote:
?> > >
?> > > Hoofy blabbed on three times again:
?> > >
?> > > >Go to Hell!!
?> > > >Hoof
?> > > >
?> > >
?> > > Take it easy honey, don't blow you're top.
?> >
?> >
?> > You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands, get a real
?> > life, i have enough crap to deal with and don't need to deal with some
?> > little retread floozy with an IQ of 10 on the internet.
?> > Hoof
?>
?> Lynne it's one of the original CMH clique from many years ago.

S/HE certainly writes like one of them.
wonder if CMH was responsible for NANL breaking up with her
hubby.  Or did I catch that the wrong way, way back when?
She is just another piece of dog dirt that needs to be scooped
up and deposited in the sewer system.
Anonymous - 28 Mar 2004 22:21 GMT
?
?Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
?>
?> In article <40660B2E.2714EC00@hotmail.com>
?> HoofPrints <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote:
?> >
?> >
?> >
?> > Maryem09 wrote:
?> > >
?> > > Hoofy blabbed on three times again:
?> > >
?> > > >Go to Hell!!
?> > > >Hoof
?> > > >
?> > >
?> > > Take it easy honey, don't blow you're top.
?> >
?> >
?> > You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands, get a real
?> > life, i have enough crap to deal with and don't need to deal with some
?> > little retread floozy with an IQ of 10 on the internet.
?> > Hoof
?>
?> Lynne it's one of the original CMH clique from many years ago.

S/HE certainly writes like one of them.
wonder if CMH was responsible for NANL breaking up with her
hubby.  Or did I catch that the wrong way, way back when?
She is just another piece of dog dirt that needs to be scooped
up and deposited in the sewer system.
 
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