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Lar - 12 Oct 2003 23:20 GMT
I had a check up Friday and I'm glad to say that my IOP was back to 14
(it had gone up slightly about a month ago to 15), which is good. But I
needed a new prescription for my glasses since my eye sight has
worsened. It's been getting worse for a while so it's nice to have new
lenses. Not being able to focus on anything was getting frustrating.

But what concerns me is that my cataracts have worsened a little,
requiring me to need rather bright light to read comfortably. Does
anyone know if there is a connection between glaucoma and cataracts? Or
is it that I just have the bad luck to have both?
Larry
dhg2001 - 13 Oct 2003 12:38 GMT
Hello,

I have been lurking around here for some time and I would like to take this
message as an opportunity to contribute something to the group.

I was born with cataracts in both eyes. From the time I was born until 2
years of age, I had 8 eye surgeries, 5 in the left eye and 3 in the right
eye. The problem was so severe in my left eye that the doctors were forced
to remove it; I have been wearing a prosthesis (as well as glasses) since I
have memory. I no longer have cataracts in my right eye, but I have always
had glaucoma. Apparently, this was caused by the cataracts or perhaps as a
consequence of the surgeries, who knows.

I am not a doctor so I obviously can't comment on your case, I just know
that in my case there is a link between the 2.

dhg

> I had a check up Friday and I'm glad to say that my IOP was back to 14
> (it had gone up slightly about a month ago to 15), which is good. But I
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> is it that I just have the bad luck to have both?
> Larry
Lar - 14 Oct 2003 01:39 GMT
dhg,
Welcome to the newsgroup. I'm glad you've joined the rest of us, to coin
a politically correct term, "IOP challenged". :-)

You situation is very interesting. I've never heard of someone being
born with cataracts. What treatments are they using to control your
pressure if I may ask?
Larry

> Hello,
>
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>>is it that I just have the bad luck to have both?
>>Larry
dhg2001 - 14 Oct 2003 15:40 GMT
> dhg,
> Welcome to the newsgroup. I'm glad you've joined the rest of us, to coin
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> pressure if I may ask?
> Larry

Well, it's a long story: I will try to be as brief as possible.

From age 2 until the late 90's (I was born in '75) I was on many different
drops an pills. Then my pressure started going up, up and up no matter how
many drops and pills I was on. At this time I was taking Alphagan, Betagan,
Xalatan, and Neptazane, some drops 3 times per day. The doctor decided to
make a little incision in my eye to relieve the pressure. That didn't help
much because a few months later my pressure was up again. The doctor then
put a drainage tube in my eye. Unfortunately, the tube worked too well. When
the doctor removed my bandage 24 hours after surgery, I could not see
anything. The doctor took my pressure and told me that it had gone down to
0. The doctor explained to me that due to the lack of pressure, the back
part of my eye (I think?) was touching my retina. The doctor then operated
on me again, he put a little stitch on the tube or around the tube in order
to close it up a little. Then he added some liquid in order to try to get
the back part of my eye not to touch my retina. Eventually, my pressure went
up to 12 or 13 and I began to see again, granted, my eyesight is not as good
as before, but I can at least see.

For the past couple of years, my pressure has been holding steady within the
range of 12 to 19 (according to my doc, between 10 and 20 is good). I am now
taking Betagan 0.5% twice a day and Neptazane 25 mg twice a day. My doctor
is now seeing me every four months so I am due for a check up in early
December. The last time I went for a check up, my pressure was 18 which was
slightly better than the 19 I had four months earlier.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

The d in dhg is for Dan so I will sign as such from now on.

Dan
John - 14 Oct 2003 19:33 GMT
>My doctor is now seeing me every four months so I am due for a check up in early
>December.

It is incredible to me that a young man who has only one eye, and that one
seriously afflicted, is being checked so infrequently.  Perhaps you can
find an optometrist with a Goldman tonometer for in-between pressure
checks.  If that shunt stops working you don't want to wait four months to
find out about it.

An HRT every so often would also be a good idea.

John
Donald Singleton - 14 Oct 2003 21:37 GMT
I respectfully disagree.  If the doctor feels every four months is enough, it's
enough. Lar has a life to live, and it shouldn't be bent out of shape any more than
necessary.  If a problem arises he can call the doc and make an earlier appointment.
But he shouldn't think of himself and act as a handicapped person.  I speak as a
person who was born with one working lung, and one of the most difficult things for
me was to forget about it and just live my life as if every cold was not a
life-threatening event.  After all, most of us only have two eyes, which isn't so
many!  As long as Lar doesn't start treating his ophthalmologist visits casually,
let's hope his vision will be okay.

Don Singleton

> >My doctor is now seeing me every four months so I am due for a check up in early
> >December.
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>
> John
Lar - 15 Oct 2003 00:30 GMT
Uh, I'm sorry to be picky but I'm sure you meant Dan (dhg) of course not
Lar (that's me). Not to take anything away from what you wrote. I agree
with your advice.
Larry

> I respectfully disagree.  If the doctor feels every four months is enough, it's
> enough. Lar has a life to live, and it shouldn't be bent out of shape any more than
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>>
>>John
Donald Singleton - 15 Oct 2003 23:40 GMT
Sorry Lar -- you're right of course.

> Uh, I'm sorry to be picky but I'm sure you meant Dan (dhg) of course not
> Lar (that's me). Not to take anything away from what you wrote. I agree
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> >>
> >>John
Lar - 18 Oct 2003 01:57 GMT
No problem.

> Sorry Lar -- you're right of course.
>
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>>>>
>>>>John
John - 15 Oct 2003 03:17 GMT
>I respectfully disagree.  If the doctor feels every four months is enough, it's
>enough. Lar has a life to live, and it shouldn't be bent out of shape any more than
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>> John

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>If the doctor feels every four months is enough, it's
>enough.

It's more likely that the HMO feels it's enough.  But then, rationing is
the necessary corollary to third-party payment.

>If a problem arises he can call the doc and make an earlier appointment.

A large slow pressure rise will be symptomless.

>I speak as a
>person who was born with one working lung,

Sorry.  But more to the point, between 8-month checkups one of my eyes went
from 20 to 48 mm, with the cup-to-disk ratio going from 0.5 to 0.9.

John

ron - 15 Oct 2003 00:45 GMT
I developed a cataract in my right eye just about the time that my
pressure in both eyes was at 22. A change in prescription lenses
helped for a time but I opted for cataract removal this past spring
because it was getting worse and all turned out more than I hoped for.
I can do without my glasses unless I am driving and my eye pressure
after the procedure dropped and stabilized at 17 as of my last visit.

I believe my cataract was not due to the high pressure but a
coincidence. I am glad I got it behind me and can concentrate on
keeping my pressure within range. BTW I am 60.

If your eye doctor gives you the option of removing the cataract
because you are ready to do it and it interferes with your vision, go
for it. ron

>I had a check up Friday and I'm glad to say that my IOP was back to 14
>(it had gone up slightly about a month ago to 15), which is good. But I
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>is it that I just have the bad luck to have both?
>Larry
 
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