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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Glaucoma / June 2004

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Diabetic Glaucoma Question

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Laura - 14 Jun 2004 18:52 GMT
This weekend I was talking to a lady who is a diabetic.  She said her
IOP has been 26 in both eyes for several years.  Her doctor hasn't put
her on eye drops because her glaucoma is due to her diabetes, and
because once she starts on those drops, she'll be stuck with them for
life.  So it seems the policy is "watchful waiting."

Is this the norm for a diabetic?  It would seem that with that IOP,
she ought to be taking drops or something to bring it down.

Thanks,
Laura
Sherry - 14 Jun 2004 19:17 GMT
> This weekend I was talking to a lady who is a diabetic.  She said
> her IOP has been 26 in both eyes for several years.  Her doctor
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> Thanks,
> Laura

As long as she has no optic nerve damage, she doesn't have glaucoma -
she has ocular hypertension.  Some glaucoma specialists will put the
patient on drops right away, some will just do "watchful waiting".
The key is that she's getting regular eye exams and there's no optic
nerve damage.  There's nothing wrong with being on drops "for life" if
it protects your vision!

And just because you have diabetes doesn't mean you have glaucoma,
although glaucoma is associated with diabetes.  I was diagnosed as
glaucoma suspect in 1995 and with diabetes in 1999.

Sherry
Rick Cohn, M.D. - 16 Jun 2004 03:38 GMT
> > This weekend I was talking to a lady who is a diabetic.  She said
> > her IOP has been 26 in both eyes for several years.  Her doctor
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>
> Sherry

Excellent response, Sherry!!! I agree wholeheartedly.  I will also add
that the patient in question may have thick corneas as measured by
pachymetry in the office...that would make the doctor even more
inclined to observe rather than to treat.  The presence of diabetes,
while increasing the lifelong risk of developing glaucoma, should have
absolutely no impact on the decision regarding whether to treat or
not.
--Dr. Cohn
Laura - 16 Jun 2004 04:53 GMT
Thanks, both.

However, this kind of points to another question I've been wondering
about.  I take it high IOP does not, in and of itself, mean glaucoma.
In other words, the fact that someone has an IOP of 26 doesn't
necessarily mean that person is going to lose any vision if nothing's
done.  Is that correct?

What, exactly, is the dividing point between high IOP and glaucoma?
How does an ophthalmologist decide when to treat and when to leave
alone?

Laura

>> And just because you have diabetes doesn't mean you have glaucoma,
>> although glaucoma is associated with diabetes.  I was diagnosed as
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>not.
>--Dr. Cohn
Rick Cohn, M.D. - 16 Jun 2004 23:11 GMT
> Thanks, both.
>
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> How does an ophthalmologist decide when to treat and when to leave
> alone?

That is correct...high IOP itself does not define glaucoma.  A typical
pattern of optic nerve damage that is progressive and eventually leads
to visual field loss...THAT's glaucoma.  High IOP is the most common
risk factor in developing optic nerve damage.  The decision on whether
to treat a given patient depends on the appearance of the optic nerve,
presence of additional risk factors (e.g. myopia, family history,
diabetes, African-American race, thin corneas, etc.) and how high the
IOP is.  Based on these, most of us come up with an individualized
target pressure for a particular patient.
Hope that helps,
Dr. C
Laura - 16 Jun 2004 23:45 GMT
Thanks, Dr. C.

>That is correct...high IOP itself does not define glaucoma.  A typical
>pattern of optic nerve damage that is progressive and eventually leads
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>Hope that helps,
>Dr. C
 
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