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Xalatan plus Alphagan

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Jack Showers - 22 Jul 2004 18:36 GMT
I've been medicated for Glaucoma for 15 years or more.  About 18
months ago I was switched to Xalatan (once a day), then about 12
months ago Alphagan was added (twice daily).
   I have developed very red (bloodshot) eyes within the last few
months. It's bad.... I scare small children.
   I understand that there may be issues about alergies developing to
Alphagan, but I really don't know much about that, or what to do about
it.
   Is there anyone out there who might be able to give me some
guidance on this issue?
                      Thanks, Jack
olfart - 22 Jul 2004 19:13 GMT
> I've been medicated for Glaucoma for 15 years or more.  About 18
> months ago I was switched to Xalatan (once a day), then about 12
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> guidance on this issue?
>                        Thanks, Jack

The alergies are normally a result of the the preservative used in the
drops. A couple of years back I was using Alphagan P and had no problems
with reddness. I arranged to get the Alphagan directly from the mfr at no
cost and they sent me Alphagan (without the P). Within a few days my eyes
were bloodshot and sore. The Alphgan P is newer and has a milder
preservative.
Jack Showers - 24 Jul 2004 13:24 GMT
Actually, I should have been more specific.... sorry.  I am using
Alphagan P.

   So the situation really is that I'm using Alphagan P and Xalatan
and have very red eyes.

   I talked to my pharmacist yesterday, but got no help there,
really.  I've brought this up to my doctor who wants to leave well
enough alone.... That is, the pressures are down, and my red eyes
don't bother him too much <g>.

   So, I'm looking around for something else I might be able to
suggest before pressing him on the issue.

                            Jack

> The alergies are normally a result of the the preservative used in the
> drops. A couple of years back I was using Alphagan P and had no problems
> with reddness. I arranged to get the Alphagan directly from the mfr at no
> cost and they sent me Alphagan (without the P). Within a few days my eyes
> were bloodshot and sore. The Alphgan P is newer and has a milder
> preservative.
olfart - 24 Jul 2004 16:26 GMT
> Actually, I should have been more specific.... sorry.  I am using
> Alphagan P.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> > were bloodshot and sore. The Alphgan P is newer and has a milder
> > preservative.

Dr Rick Cohen posted a link to a site a while back(which I caan't find right
now) for a Company that will supply drops with no preservative. Maybe the
next time he drops in here he can repeat the info.
Laura - 24 Jul 2004 19:07 GMT
I still have that post saved in my newsreader.  Here's what he said:

"Leiter's pharmacy in San Jose, CA compounds many of these meds and
ships them all over the country.  You can find them online."

Laura

>Dr Rick Cohen posted a link to a site a while back(which I caan't find right
>now) for a Company that will supply drops with no preservative. Maybe the
>next time he drops in here he can repeat the info.
Checkout - 22 Jul 2004 19:32 GMT
I've been medicated for Glaucoma for 15 years or more.  About 18
months ago I was switched to Xalatan (once a day), then about 12
months ago Alphagan was added (twice daily).
   I have developed very red (bloodshot) eyes within the last few
months. It's bad.... I scare small children.
   I understand that there may be issues about alergies developing to
Alphagan, but I really don't know much about that, or what to do about
it.
   Is there anyone out there who might be able to give me some
guidance on this issue?
                      Thanks, Jack

I got bloodshot eyes from using Alphagan too after using it for about
eighteen months so I guess it's a pretty common occurrence. The Doc
told me I had become sensitive to the preservative. My medication was
changed to Pilocarpine Nitrate 2%.
Rick Cohn, M.D. - 26 Jul 2004 04:06 GMT
> I've been medicated for Glaucoma for 15 years or more.  About 18
> months ago I was switched to Xalatan (once a day), then about 12
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> told me I had become sensitive to the preservative. My medication was
> changed to Pilocarpine Nitrate 2%.

Okay, here's the deal with Alphagan P.  When Alphagan (Brimonidine)
was initially introduced, it came out as a 0.2% solution preserved
with benzalkonium chloride, the same preservative in virtually every
other eyedrop.  While it's earlier cousin, Iopidine, had an almost 40%
allergy rate, Alphagan was no slouch, having nearly 25% of patients
complaining of allergy symptoms within the first year or two of use
(redness and itching, generally...independent of whether it worked on
one's IOP.  Usually it was quite effective).
    Later Allergan released Alphagan P and pulled the original off
the market.  Alphagan P had a lowered percentage (0.15%) and was now
preserved with Purite, a rather benign preservative that is less
irritating than Benzalkonium chloride.  Nevertheless, PLENTY of people
are still allergic to Alphagan P, and it has NOTHING to do with the
preservative, only the Brimonidine.  The allergy rate is somewhat
lower with the "P" version, maybe because the medication is at a lower
concentration.
    Bausch and Lomb has now released there own Brimonidine 0.2% in
generic form, so it is a fair bit cheaper than Alphagan P, but again,
now we're back to the original preservative at higher concentration.
So that's the skinny, for what it's worth.
Rick Cohn, MD
Glaucoma Specialist
Winter Park, FL
Jack Showers - 27 Jul 2004 19:53 GMT
> So that's the skinny, for what it's worth.
> Rick Cohn, MD
> Glaucoma Specialist
> Winter Park, FL

Dr. Cohn,

   Thanks, it's much appreciated.  

   Have you got a recommendation for a substitution for either the
Alphagan P or the Xalatan/Alphagan P  combination I'm now using?

                     Jack
Rick Cohn, M.D. - 28 Jul 2004 22:27 GMT
> > So that's the skinny, for what it's worth.
> > Rick Cohn, MD
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>
>                       Jack

Lumigan alone may work as well as Xalatan and Alphagan P
together...might be worth a shot...speak to your doc about it.  Good
Luck,
Dr. C
Reason - 05 Aug 2004 11:04 GMT
My experience is very close to Jack's.

My specialist started me on Xalatan one drop each per night.

Then he wanted the IOP a bit lower, and added Alphagan one drop each per
night.

My eye started to get red, and basically stayed red.

Once that went on for a few weeks I arranged to see the specialist.

He said I was allergic to the Alphagan.

He changed me to one drop each night of Lumigan only.

The redness went away.
The Lumigan works (12 months now).
However the IOP is a bit higher than with Xalatan and Alphagan combined.
As a bonus, it only costs me half as with two meds.

Good luck,
Stephen

> > > So that's the skinny, for what it's worth.
> > > Rick Cohn, MD
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Luck,
> Dr. C
Jack Showers - 18 Aug 2004 03:56 GMT
An update....

   My doctor took me off of the Alphagan P, leaving me on the
Xalatan.  Red eyes cleared up.  Pressures rose to 19/19 range.  He
just added Betoptic S (which I had used alone before) to the Xalatan
to get the pressures back to the 14-15 range.

   We'll see.

   Thanks for everyone's involvement, here.

                        Jack
 
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