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Mike - 18 Apr 2004 18:11 GMT
I have been treated for open angle glaucoma for 20 years - first
dignosed when I was 29. I have been on a slew of different eye drops,
I am sure I could only remember half of them - propine, timoptic,
betoptic, pilocarpine 4% (God I hated that stuff), xylantan, and
lately lumigan. There are others that I can't remember. I have also
had a full course (3 sessions in each eye) of laser treatment maybe 15
years ago,  I am now just getting the lumigan, I guess my doc feels
the pressure is being controlled well enough. My question is, is there
any possibility that the active agent of lumigan (or some of these
others) can raise blood pressure and/or heart rate? I know for a FACT
that some of the beta blockers affect breathing. I started having
problems breathing years ago and noticed a direct connection between
taking some of the drops and a few minutes later my breathig would get
harder. Fortuantely, I have within the last few months gotten off of
the asthma inhalers I was taking - maybe the lumigan doesn't effect
the respiratory system like some of the other drops. Anyway, I have
been disgonosed now with high blood pressure and I have a nagging
feeling that this too is somehow connected - although I am not finding
anything documented on this. Just wondered if anyone else had any
experience with this.
Rick Cohn, M.D. - 19 Apr 2004 23:55 GMT
Anyway, I have
> been disgonosed now with high blood pressure and I have a nagging
> feeling that this too is somehow connected - although I am not finding
> anything documented on this. Just wondered if anyone else had any
> experience with this.

Hi Mike,
   I have hundreds of patients on Lumigan and never had any bring up
this concern with blood pressure.  Lumigan is a prostaglandin
analogue, and prostaglandins tend to act locally...that is, there side
effects are usually limited to the area around the eye (darker iris
color, pigmentation of skin around the eye, eyelash growth, redness of
the eye).  Of course, anything's possiible, but it's not terribly
likely.
--Rick Cohn, MD
Glaucoma Specialist
Winter Park, FL
Mike - 20 Apr 2004 13:47 GMT
Thanks Dr. Cohn
I take it the beta blockers have more systemic effects judging from
the adverse effect they had on my breathing?

>Anyway, I have
>> been disgonosed now with high blood pressure and I have a nagging
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>Glaucoma Specialist
>Winter Park, FL
PoP - 20 Apr 2004 18:01 GMT
In addition to my glaucoma I also take meds for Congestive Heart Failure and
a cardiomyopathy. My glaucoma specialist conferred with my cardiologist and
they agreed that using beta blockers to lower IOP was not the best option
FOR ME!!!

My point is: if heart-related problems in addition to glaucoma, at least
check with your cardiologist to make sure there are no conflicts.

Good luck.

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Leigh Melton - 20 Apr 2004 20:36 GMT
>In addition to my glaucoma I also take meds for Congestive Heart Failure and
>a cardiomyopathy. My glaucoma specialist conferred with my cardiologist and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>My point is: if heart-related problems in addition to glaucoma, at least
>check with your cardiologist to make sure there are no conflicts.

Ditto that for clinical depression.

I was wary about beta-blockers because I have a history of clinical
depression (was in therapy and took Wellbutrin for a couple of years
back in the 1990s).  That is one big reason why I changed specialists
- doctor #1 tried to put me on Betimol and when I voiced concerns, he
waved me off with a "now now, little girl" type of gesture and didn't
even SAY anything.  Considering I'm 41 years old, I didn't appreciate
that very much.

Anyway, I am on a beta-blocker trial now, but Dr. Chopra discussed the
issue with me before putting me on Betoptic S.  While it is safe for
me to use, it's a weaker drug so I may not see as much IOP reduction
as he would like.  Just one of those trade-off situations.  We'll see
in a couple of weeks if it's working out for me.

I won't pretend to understand how beta-blockers work, and I know that
drug companies have to put down everything from itchy eyes to death on
their patient warning leaflets, but I'm glad I brought up the subject
with my doctor(s).  

Leigh

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"Why pay for cologne when mustard is free?" - Filburt
Norman - 20 Apr 2004 00:08 GMT
>My question is, is there
>any possibility that the active agent of lumigan (or some of these
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>taking some of the drops and a few minutes later my breathig would get
>harder.
Interestingly, increased heart rate and decreased heart rate, as well as
laboured or difficult breathing or wheezing are listed as possible side effects
for beta blockers. I seem to recall Betagan & Cosopt contain beta blockers too.

As for Lumigan, there seems to be no BP/heart side effects.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/500295.html#SXX20
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/bimatoprost_ad.htm

If you're really interested, here's the approval information for Lumigan.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/nda/2001/21275_Lumigan.htm
There may be something in the Pharmacology Review documentation. Be forewarned,
it's rather technical.

>Fortuantely, I have within the last few months gotten off of
>the asthma inhalers I was taking - maybe the lumigan doesn't effect
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>anything documented on this. Just wondered if anyone else had any
>experience with this.
I don't recall seeing specific information regarding high BP as a side effect
for the eye drops that I've looked at. Perhaps a check on the interactions
between the drugs you're taking may offer something of use
http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Interaction/ChooseDrugs/

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Norman
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\( TN Artist, trish,tn \) - 25 Apr 2004 06:54 GMT
I definitely have noticed that many of our meds caused me breathing
problems . I do have COPD --that's emphysema , asthma , & whatever -- I
am also having problems with MY BP fluctuating --from hi to low . like
70/40 And the ER with that reading . Thanks for this site , I will check
out my copd meds in relation to the glaucoma meds -( I know they aren't
compatable & the Dr. says tough luck ; ) some cause glaucoma -
-Incidentally I am Scotch -Irish and glaucoma does run in my family
 
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