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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Epilepsy / May 2005What does everyone do for a living
Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding what everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your work or work environment. I'll start, Automation design, & no, epilepsy has never really had an impact on my job, although I've turned several down for fear it might. Thanks, Mike hi all - i used too be a las vegas blackjack dealer--------yes it did effect my seizures...the lights and stress used too kill me and did not even know it---boy was i stupid....i have an vagus nerve stimulator now-since 1999 and on perament dis..glad i cant work anymork more relaxed and no siezures..love this disscusion group Website Designer, I also work as a temporary administrative/legal assistant at times. I work from home on web design. I choose to keep a small group of clients, so my work load is light. This has helped me to keep seizure free going on 10 years now. Julie, Volunteer Webmaster Epilepsy Foundation of Idaho http://www.epilepsyidaho.org > Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding what > everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Mike I am a theatre nurse. When I was first diagnosed and having the usual problems my manager on the wards made my life hell. I told her to stick her job and have a great job in the theatres. I now have a great Boss and have not had a seizure in years. Craig > Website Designer, I also work as a temporary administrative/legal > assistant at [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> Thanks, >> Mike >>Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding what >>everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your >>work or work environment. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>Thanks, >>Mike I "was" a Graphic Artist and yes it has affected my work. I have grands and petites. Combined they erase my memory both short term and some long term. I cant' remember reading posts from this morning for instance. My uncontrolable seizure attacks affect my ability to perform any kind of meaningful employment. Unable to drive limits me even further. Now I play on computer. Learn one day, forget what I learned the next, and then start the process over. Not complete owlvee-heimers yet, but seems I am working on it seems I am working on it :) ~..~ owlvee > Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding > what > everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your > work or work environment. What a brilliant question! I've never had a carreer (too many children to bring up) but have done odd jobs - some very odd - which have given me a wide range of experiences. That was before my tumour. Since it was removed I only have approximately monthly dejas which wouldn't prevent me doing anything. We make and sell historical items, as on the website. Sometimes we attend historical events (in full and 100% proper kit). Since we're getting old now that part of it is physicallty hard but we love the social side as well as meeting the folk who like to buy our goods and ask advice and generally talk. It's also a great privilege to stay in the lovely historical sites we visit, camping in castle baileys is magical! It's a different world. My little turns have no effect on it at all. But the surgery left me with occasional dysphasia and I struggle for a word. It's not a problem. I don't let it be. Mary www.candlemaker.org.uk I don't know if I am included in this question as the newbie I am, but I'll answer it anyways :o) I worked at a drug rehabilitation centre and also worked as a receptionist for the psychiatrist who saw patients there. I went into hospital for these petit mal things and also a couple of other mental health issues and so lost my job there. My old job has been available twice since and the boss wont let me back there (she's my mum and is worried about me working). So I am job seeking at present. My problems did have an impact on my job, with the concentrating part. > Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding > what [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks, > Mike >> Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding >> what >> everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your >> work or work environment. Unfortunately I am a science teacher :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((. Apart from the various job refusals when they found out, it has only affected me once in the classroom, when apparently I took my shirt off and went round hitting the walls (I'm good at undressing during seizures, aren't I? Why don't I ever remember the fun bits?). And endless days off to go up to London to the National Hosp, all of which failed to locate or decide upon anything :-) Oh, and memory (I almost forgot) and face-blindness and depression and fatigue. Sometimes I wonder whether I have narcolepsy, not epilepsy.  SignatureMalcolm - 47 and already planning an early retirement >>> Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding >>> what >>> everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your >>> work or work environment. > > Unfortunately I am a science teacher :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((. Hurrah! You've emerged from the woodwork too :-) > Apart from the various job refusals when they found out, it has only > affected me once in the classroom, when apparently I took my shirt off [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oh, and memory (I almost forgot) and face-blindness and depression and > fatigue. Sometimes I wonder whether I have narcolepsy, not epilepsy. Do it as soon as you can. It's wonderful! Don't think about money, it's amazing how little you can live on and have a good life. We do. When the GP, union rep and I were trying to persuade Spouse to do it (it took a year) his constant plea was that we couldn't afford to live on the tiny pension he'd have, having been a late entrant to teaching. I said that I'd rather be a poor wife than any kind of widow. It took him another year after retiring to understand that life is rich and worth living, now he wouldn't consider the classroom again. Mary >> Malcolm - 47 and already planning an early retirement > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >took a year) his constant plea was that we couldn't afford to live on the >tiny pension he'd have, having been a late entrant to teaching. If it's not being too nosey, may I ask what age he was when he retired? My current contract runs until I'm sixty, pension would start at 65 (70 if the new compulsory extension to teaching service goes through, so at the minimum I'd have 16 years without a steady income. OTOH I feel that teaching ATM is just lining me up for a mega-coronary, although there is no evidence that it's on its way. > I said that >I'd rather be a poor wife than any kind of widow. > >It took him another year after retiring to understand that life is rich and >worth living, now he wouldn't consider the classroom again. That's what I feel after last term. SignatureMalcolm >>> Malcolm - 47 and already planning an early retirement >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > OTOH I feel that teaching ATM is just lining me up for a mega-coronary, > although there is no evidence that it's on its way. ** Have you checked if you have Group Disability Insurance? If you have it there and Dr. will fill out forms for you, you don't have to 'wait for a coronary'. If your medical conditions are included in the qualifying terms, you could already be eligible? North America (well Canada) Insurance provides Wage Replacement based on minimum of 5 years already worked plus a base amount until age 65 (when Canada Pension takes over). Base amount was about 60% of 3 year's average income plus Insurance supplement because I had above Group Disab. Insurance. /G. >> I said that >>I'd rather be a poor wife than any kind of widow. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That's what I feel after last term. >** Have you checked if you have Group Disability Insurance? We don't have it in the UK. If I wanted to take out health insurance it would exclude epilepsy and any other ailments which could possibly be associated with it. SignatureMalcolm >>** Have you checked if you have Group Disability Insurance? > > We don't have it in the UK. If I wanted to take out health insurance it > would exclude epilepsy and any other ailments which could possibly be > associated with it. I know you have to buy it in advance, I didn't know if it was provided for employers in UK or not. Several large companies or Unions, in Canada, *now pay for it for employees. But also, here, if you're in a Union or Group (like teachers) the Group Insurance is regulated so they can't deny you insurance so long as you sign up as part of the Employee Group you're in... It was an 'option' where I worked, that I bought even though 'I didn't need it'... I have a Relative who didn't think it was worth the *$12 a month, who used to work at the same company. The Insurance helped pay 60% of my income since 1980, plus a decent amount per year that isn't *Taxable, since the $12. is an After-Tax Insurance **option. ($12 here will buy about 8 cups of coffee at a restaurant, for cost of living comparison.) /G. >>> Malcolm - 47 and already planning an early retirement >> >>Do it as soon as you can. ... > If it's not being too nosey, may I ask what age he was when he retired? Fifty or fifty one. It was on health grounds, that way he got a slightly bigger pension because it was paid by DES rather than LA. I don't know how things are now. But he really was being killed by it and wasn't alone in that school. His pension was about ?5,000 pa but is now enhanced by the (reduced by lack of credits) state pension. Even I get ?47 pw now! > My current contract runs until I'm sixty, pension would start at 65 (70 > if the new compulsory extension to teaching service goes through, so at > the minimum I'd have 16 years without a steady income. Steady isn't everything. There are benefits for reduced incomes. We've never qualified for them, always being in the poverty trap. But we think we live well and we are healthy and happy. Now. > OTOH I feel that teaching ATM is just lining me up for a mega-coronary, > although there is no evidence that it's on its way. You don't always get a warning. Spouse didn't - although that's not why he left. His was in 1984. He had no definite symptoms for what led to his chronic illness and made him eligible for retirement, except lassitude, panic attacks, no interest in anything - including me - and various unidentifiable manifestations of what I suppose was 'stress'. He's also been accused of abusing a pupil and the headmaster was unsupportive. Spouse was only one of the 60-70% of staff in that school who either left, were physically attacked and hospitalised, were on chronic sick leave or died during the time he was there. He still gets the most dreadful nightmares but they're a small price to pay. >> I said that >>I'd rather be a poor wife than any kind of widow. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That's what I feel after last term. I feel for you. Truly. I wish I could suggest something or advise you :-( Hugs, Mary > Malcolm > Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding what > everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Mike I've always wondered what the other folks here did for a living. Me, I'm a transcriptionist, medical and general, and also provide other office-related services (independent contractor). I started offering these services to the public around the time I was diagnosed (15 years), but that wasn't my primary reason for starting my business. Actually, there were a lot of reasons. My background includes a lot of training/education and work experience in my field, so this all worked out pretty well for me. We also live on a farm. We used to milk cows then went to beef when my husband's knees gave out. Now we just raise crops (corn, soybeans). Barb > I've always wondered what the other folks here did for a living. Me, I'm > a transcriptionist, A WHAT??? > We also live on a farm. We used to milk cows then went to beef when my > husband's knees gave out. LOL! He didn't milk with his knees, did he? > Now we just raise crops (corn, soybeans). This is turning out to be a most enjoyable thread. :-) Mary > Barb >>I've always wondered what the other folks here did for a living. Me, I'm >>a transcriptionist, > > A WHAT??? People send me audio recordings, and I type what they said. >>We also live on a farm. We used to milk cows then went to beef when my >>husband's knees gave out. > > LOL! He didn't milk with his knees, did he? We didn't have a milking parlor where you can stand to do some things, so you have to stoop to wash the udder, to put on and take off the milking unit, and so on. I love answering farm questions, so keep them coming. Barb >>Now we just raise crops (corn, soybeans). > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >>Barb >>>We also live on a farm. We used to milk cows then went to beef when my >>>husband's knees gave out. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I love answering farm questions, so keep them coming. Wouldn't it have been easier to install a ramp for the cows to stand on? All the dairy units for cattle, sheep or goats I know have them, even small ones. Also, I can understand that stooping would cause back problems but not knees ... I'm not saying you're wrong, I just can't understand it. What kind of cows did you have? A daughter has Traditional Herefords but she doesn't milk any of them even for her own use, which I think is a pity ... You must have a lot of land for such arable crops. Where are you? And when you say corn do you mean maize or wheat? I love asking farm questions :-)))))))) Mary >>>>We also live on a farm. We used to milk cows then went to beef when my >>>>husband's knees gave out. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the dairy units for cattle, sheep or goats I know have them, even small > ones. The ramp thing is actually part of a milking parlor. Back when we first started milking (back in 1967), the equipment needed for parlor milking wasn't commonly available, and when it did become available, wow, the price was out of this world. My husband grew up on a farm and had done a lot of milking before we were married (he grew up on a farm near our place). I mean, farming involves a lot of physical work, so it's not unusual to have wear and tear problems with the body after lots of years of use. > Also, I can understand that stooping would cause back problems but not knees > ... Udders are on the bottom side of the cow and, of course, you can't reach them while standing (unless in a milking parlor). You could bend over I suppose, but sometimes it's kind of hard to do things in an upside down position. > I'm not saying you're wrong, I just can't understand it. > > What kind of cows did you have? A daughter has Traditional Herefords but she > doesn't milk any of them even for her own use, which I think is a pity ... We had Holsteins, which are the black and white spotted ones. Herefords around here aren't used for milk production; they're considered beef animals. When we raised beef, we had some herefords, white faces, some Angus, and some mixed breeds. I really thought the herefords were nice calm, polite animals (they we less lightly to fight with the animal next to them). The herefords we have around here are basically all brown with white faces, undersides, and feet. Is that the kind of herefords your daughter has? > You must have a lot of land for such arable crops. Where are you? Well, let's assume that 40 cows are being milked twice a day. That means 80 times every day you are bending over or stooping to wash the udder, 80 times you bend or stoop to put the milker on, 80 times a day you bend to remove the milker. That doesn't include the number of times you bend or stoop to check the milker, check the condition of the udder, and all the other stuff that goes on. That's a lot of bending and stooping. We're about in the middle of Wisconsin. This is all farm country around here. I only know of a couple of dairy operations that don't grow their own crops. Everybody else grows all or most of what the cows need for food. And when > you say corn do you mean maize or wheat? Maize. Not much wheat grown around here as the climate is not compatible. Mostly they grow corn, soybeans, hay, and some oats (you get straw from oats too). They don't grow much oats anymore though. The southern part of the state grows more wheat. Over in the Stevens Point area they grow potatoes because the soil is real sandy there. There are a few places that grow vegetables for canning purposes, but all the canneries in this area have been closed for years, so there really aren't any farmers growing those types of crops today. Some cranberries are grown in the marshy areas. We also have a large vegetable garden. My mother-in-law and my husband's grandmother taught me the initial stuff 38 years ago, and I've expanded my knowledge base and experience, of course, since that time. We generally grow sweet corn, beets, carrots, tomatoes, cabbage, different types of beans, squash (summer and winter), pumpkins, peppers, onions, potatoes, celery, different greens, radishes, and other healthy things. If anyone needs help with veggie gardening, I'd be happy to try to help. Barb > I love asking farm questions :-)))))))) > > Mary Hi Mary and Barb, OK, now you made me think of my "other" job. My brother and sisters and I just became wheat farmers. When my mother died we inherited my father and grandfather's land. We grow wheat and lentils. Actually, the farmer does the work, we get to reminisce about the trips to the farm land. It is in Washington State. This is a reealllllly old pic of me and my parents with our wheat. http://www.inet-success.com/wheatfield.htm Take care, Julie > Hi Mary and Barb, OK, now you made me think of my "other" job. My brother and > sisters and I just became wheat farmers. When my mother died we inherited my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Take care, > Julie Hey, that's really neat, Julie. Looks like some hilly ground. Did you guys do the combining too? BArb > > Hi Mary and Barb, OK, now you made me think of my "other" job. My brother and > > sisters and I just became wheat farmers. When my mother died we inherited my [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > BArb Hi Barb, We got to play that we were farmers as our kids were growing up. We went to Washington to visit our parents and Dad would always drive out to take a look at the crops. We would be driving along and ask him, what is that growing in the field. He would always tell us, wheat or barley, or whatever it was. Then later in life he told us that he wasn't really sure what was growing, but he always had an answer for us. ;-) I dug up some pictures of visits to the farm, our kids got to go for a ride on the combine. For those of you that don't know what a combine is, check it out. http://www.inet-success.com/wheatfield.htm We don't do any of the farming ourselves, we have an excellent farmer and we are told that our land is the best in the area. Take care, Julie > Hi Mary and Barb, OK, now you made me think of my "other" job. My brother > and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Take care, > Julie Thanks, Julie. Those acreages, in UK terms, are scary! I guess you're in Eastern WA, I never saw anything like that in Western Wa. Which is you though? Mary > > This is a reealllllly old pic of me and my parents with our wheat. > > http://www.inet-success.com/wheatfield.htm [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mary Hi Mary, I'm in the middle, but this picture is probably 15 years ago. The land is in what is called the Palouse country in eastern Washington. Take care, Julie > Hi Mary, I'm in the middle, but this picture is probably 15 years ago. > The land > is in what is called the Palouse country in eastern Washington. Itcertainly looks very different from western Washington which is where I spent most of my time, in Puget sound but some on the mainland and up into BC. I was taken once to visit folk in eastern Washington and it was so very different ... Mary > Take care, > Julie I just returned from visiting my sister near Puget Sound, she lives on Camano Island. The tulips were just about to bloom in Skagit Valley, I got some great photos of eagles and fields of white birds. Take care, Julie > > Hi Mary, I'm in the middle, but this picture is probably 15 years ago. > > The land [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Take care, > > Julie >I just returned from visiting my sister near Puget Sound, she lives on >Camano > Island. I was on the big one, Whidby. One of my host'sfriends wanted to fly me to Camano in his plane but his free time didn't co-incide with mine :-( > The tulips were just about to bloom in Skagit Valley, You know, I was taken to see them. I felt ungrateful because it left me cold, just great blocks of colour. People travel from all over UK to see the Spalding bulb fields, which are just the same thing. I've never understood that :-( > I got some great > photos of eagles and fields of white birds. Now you're talking! Mary >If anyone needs help with veggie gardening, I'd be happy to try >to help. I have a small back garden which I fervently dug last year and planted all sorts of vegetables (I remembered how wonderful it was to be able to wander out, pick a few and put them straight on the plate, so a garden of my own was a wondrous new thing to have !!!!). The radishes bolted, the onions did nothing, the lettuce got slugged, the carrots were the size of a cat's willy, the squashes went all rotten, the cucumbers ripened at one end before the other, etc. I got quite a few tomatoes (in Gro-Bags) and one giant strawberry in a hanging basket. And the climbing nasturtiums went crazy, smothered the trees, came in the bedroom window and made the place look like the set for a Hammer film. Sadly, vegetables need this thing called sunlight, which although we get an incredible amount of it here, does not find its way much into an east-facing garden :-( I shall not be trying again, and intend to have the whole lot paved over if I can afford it this year. BUT, in the pots, containers, etc... my acers are already in full leaf, the bamboo is bursting and my Chinese Dawn Redwood (yes, in a container) has survived the winter and is leafing again !!! Yo, who needs a pet when you've got a Redwood which will outlive me fifty times over? (if it weren't in a container, I'd probably need planning permission or get an Anti-Social Behaviour Order served on me by now!). SignatureMalcolm "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>If anyone needs help with veggie gardening, I'd be happy to try >>to help. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wander out, pick a few and put them straight on the plate, so a garden > of my own was a wondrous new thing to have !!!!). ... > I shall not be trying again, and intend to have the whole lot paved over > if I can afford it this year. That's very sad. Do try again, it gets better. Honestly. Or get a couple of chickens, let them raise the fertility of the soil and veggies will grow in the dark! The fact that you got tomatoes in Gro-bags says something, doesn't it? Mary >> I shall not be trying again, and intend to have the whole lot paved over >> if I can afford it this year. > >That's very sad. Do try again, it gets better. Honestly. I might try the strawberries again. But the fact that I have less time for gardening than I did previously (when I used to grow Lolla Rossa lettuce outside my flat) reflects both a change in energy and lifestyle. > The fact that you got tomatoes in Gro-bags >says something, doesn't it? It says that I couldn't walk down the garden path (the only bit which gets long sunlight hours) because I had tomato frames all along the wall :-) Now the front garden is a different matter. It would be great for veg, but it wouldn't increase the value or saleability of the house, a factor which is always on my mind if I want to give up work quickly. SignatureMalcolm >>> I shall not be trying again, and intend to have the whole lot paved over >>> if I can afford it this year. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > but it wouldn't increase the value or saleability of the house, a factor > which is always on my mind if I want to give up work quickly. Have you got a spot where 'containers' would get 5-7 hours of Sun a day? We can grow 2 types of tomatoes here (Canada) in Tubs or medium-sized pots, as well as regular sized ones (tomatoes). Sweet 100 and Sweet 1000s are Compact and Vine type plants (respectively) that put out Cherry Tomatoes faster than you could eat them. Don't spray anything on them (poisons), or you'll discourage the bees ! :-< Water them from soil top when the soil gets Dry to the fingertip (1 cm down). Let water that washes through at the bottom drain off with the pots. Even You could grow these... You should know this already, but you need *2 plants of each type, for the bees to work. If you've got space for larger plants, put them in Rows on small raised hills (Ankle height). Stake taller Varieties, or the 1000s if they're not against a wall. There's even a type you can grow (Italian cooking) that can be Blanched and Frozen to make Spaghetti Sauce if you want the extra work. Come on, what kind of example is That to set for your Students? .... G./ G.Ross <gaross@rogers.com> writes > Have you got a spot where 'containers' would get 5-7 hours of Sun a day? In the summer, yes, up against the wall on the garden path. But where would I put my redwood which is going to be my only gift to the world? >We can grow 2 types of tomatoes here (Canada) in Tubs or medium-sized >pots, as well as regular sized ones (tomatoes). Sweet 100 and Sweet >1000s are Compact and Vine type plants (respectively) that put out >Cherry Tomatoes faster than you could eat them. Let water that washes >through at the bottom drain off with the pots. I found with Gro-Bags it was easy to wash the fertiliser *out* by overzealous watering. > Even You could grow these... You should know this already, but you > need *2 plants of each type, for the bees to work. Male and female plants, rather than flowers. I always feel sorry for the giant gender oaks, sitting there for hundred of years alone in the forest with no other oak for miles around. An evolutionary dead-end :-( > If you've got space for larger plants, put them in Rows on small raised >hills (Ankle height). Stake taller Varieties, or the 1000s if they're not >against a wall. There's even a type you can grow (Italian cooking) that can >be Blanched and Frozen to make Spaghetti Sauce if you want the extra work. My Garden: . House . _______________________ \____ . XXXX | | . XXXX | small patio | . XXXX |_____________________ | ---->North . XXXX | | | 3 . 6 | | C| S. F | | | F U. o | Tree W | C| o N o | W W | | o . t | WW | C| t . | W W | | About . w | | C| W 20 foot . a | Tree | | a square . l | | C| l . l | | | l . | | C| . | Trees, bushes,Trees |\ | . |_____________________| \ |__________________ . \ . ___________\__________________________*___________________ . . GARAGES GARAGES W W W = my wussy attempt at growing a lawn to replace the train set which my predecessor had in the garden. XXXX = where my neighbour has been granted planning permission for a conservatory. I went to the council offices to see the plans, and found that the building will be 2.5 m high, add roof, and will be brick built facing me :-( I was also informed that in the UK we have 'no legal right to light'. C = where all my container plants pots etc are currently crowing. A long search revealed that the path along the bottom is actually part of my property. I could cut down the trees and as long as I allow free access (it's never used) I could have a three foot longer garden. There's already a path gate on the wall at point *. That'll all be fun for the proportional spacers amongst you. SignatureMalcolm Hi Malcolm, Speaking of light needed by plants. We decided to cut down a big maple tree in our back yard. The roots were lifting up our shed. Our neighbor was so happy. Her entire back yard is a vegetable garden. I imagine she will have some nice veggies this year. It was spendy to have a tree guy come out and climb the tree, cut it down, grind down the stump and roots and haul off the trash. We kept the wood for our wood burning stove. We also tore down the old metal shed and my hubby used a jack hammer to break up the cement pad. Now we look out our back yard and see the beautiful foothills. Fortunately our neighbors behind us have a lot of property so their buildings are very far away. We hope they don't decide to build some huge building in our view. We plan to build shed in a different spot and plant a vegetable garden in a large grow box. Take care, Julie > Male and female plants, rather than flowers. I always feel sorry for the > giant gender oaks, sitting there for hundred of years alone in the > forest with no other oak for miles around. An evolutionary dead-end :-( Not really because oaks are wind pollinated, unlike tomatoes. You'll rarely find an oak, even a solitary one, without fruit. They're notorious for their promiscuity! > My Garden: > . House [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > W W W = my wussy attempt at growing a lawn to replace the train set > which my predecessor had in the garden. I'd have kept the train set. We don't have a lawn, the hens have eaten all the grass. > XXXX = where my neighbour has been granted planning permission for a > conservatory. I went to the council offices to see the plans, and found > that the building will be 2.5 m high, add roof, and will be brick built > facing me :-( I was also informed that in the UK we have 'no legal > right to light'. That's true. > C = where all my container plants pots etc are currently crowing. Crowing??? You're growing bird seed? > A long search revealed that the path along the bottom is actually part > of my property. I could cut down the trees and as long as I allow free > access (it's never used) I could have a three foot longer garden. > There's already a path gate on the wall at point *. Do it :-) If you can find the energy :-( > That'll all be fun for the proportional spacers amongst you. I'd get rid of one tree and the grass. Or get a couple of banties, they'll get rid of the grass and keep you amused* and give you lovely eggs. Mary * They're therapy on legs! >> Now the front garden is a different matter. It would be great for veg, >> but it wouldn't increase the value or saleability of the house, a factor [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > We can grow 2 types of tomatoes here (Canada) in Tubs or medium-sized > pots, as well as regular sized ones (tomatoes). Yes, you could have pots of vegetbles in the front garden which could be removed if you want to sell! > Sweet 100 and Sweet 1000s are Compact and Vine type plants (respectively) > that put out Cherry Tomatoes faster than you could eat them. Not fasterthan I can eat them! But yes, they're excellent. > Don't spray anything on them (poisons), or you'll discourage the bees ! > :-< You don't need bees for tomato pollination. But you still shouldn't spray pesticides. In any case pests aren't really a problem for tomatoes. > Water them from soil top when the soil gets Dry to the fingertip (1 cm > down). Let water that washes through at the bottom drain off with the > pots. Even You could grow these... You should know this already, but > you need *2 plants of each type, for the bees to work. No you don't. Last year I grew single plants of several varieties of tomatoes. They're self-pollinating. Bees WILL visit them if there's a paucity of other pollen and nectar bearing plants but the tomatoes don't need them. > Come on, what kind of example is That to set for your Students? .... In UK students/pupils don't usually visit teachers' houses. We try to avoid their knowing where home is. When the last bell of the days goes the time until morning bell is private. Mary >In UK students/pupils don't usually visit teachers' houses. We try to avoid >their knowing where home is. > >When the last bell of the days goes the time until morning bell is private. And in my weirdo school they don't even have any bells. Lessons go 30, 30, 35, 30, 35, 35, 35, 35, 35 minutes long. If assembly overruns an announcement will be made of the new times. Easy to remember and keep an eye on the clock whilst you're trying to teach </SARC> SignatureMalcolm "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>When the last bell of the days goes the time until morning bell is >>private. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > announcement will be made of the new times. Easy to remember and keep an > eye on the clock whilst you're trying to teach </SARC> They provide clocks? That's generous. Posh school then ... Mary >They provide clocks? That's generous. > >Posh school then ... But I provide my own clock. It goes backwards, so if any pupil wants to sit in my lessons and clockwatch, at least they have to use their brain to work out the time. My argument is that the Earth spins anticlockwise, the moon goes round the Earth anticlockwise and the Earth goes round the Sun anticlockwise. Why shouldn't clocks go round anti clockwise? How arrogant it is of humans to assume that their clocks should be any different! :-) But I've got too used to it, and ordinary clocks always need a second look from me! SignatureMalcolm >>They provide clocks? That's generous. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Why shouldn't clocks go round anti clockwise? How arrogant it is of > humans to assume that their clocks should be any different! :-) I didn't know that. That is, I'd never thought about it. It's a very good point. Perhaps Melvyn Bragg could have a discussion on the philosophy of why our clocks do it that way. > But I've got too used to it, and ordinary clocks always need a second > look from me! I hardly look at clocks. My belly's a good guide to time :-) I know it's no good for you though :-( Spouse was always obsessed by the time. He daren't be without his watch. He even had a mini alarm in his pocket. After he left it took two or three years to get him to to stay in bed after the alarm, to be more relaxed altogether about time. It seems to me that only the school day is so very precise, I can't think of anything else important which is. I feel for you ... get the retirement process going and learn not to be ruled by the clock. Mary "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message > > But I provide my own clock. It goes backwards, so if any pupil wants to > sit in my lessons and clockwatch, at least they have to use their brain [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Why shouldn't clocks go round anti clockwise? How arrogant it is of > humans to assume that their clocks should be any different! :-) I talked to Spouse about this in bed last night. He suggested that the shadow on a sundial goes round 'clockwise' so it was a natural progression to arrange for mechanical clock hands to do the same, it's what people were used to. That makes some kind of sense, so it could have been a natural phenomenon and nothing to do with Man's arrogance. Mary >I talked to Spouse about this in bed last night. He suggested that the >shadow on a sundial goes round 'clockwise' so it was a natural progression [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >That makes some kind of sense, so it could have been a natural phenomenon >and nothing to do with Man's arrogance. Yes, I know that, but the kids don't! :-) SignatureMalcolm >>I talked to Spouse about this in bed last night. He suggested that the >>shadow on a sundial goes round 'clockwise' so it was a natural progression [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yes, I know that, but the kids don't! :-) You mean I had to talk to Spouse in bed when you could have told me??? You can go right off some folk you know! There's a time and a place for everything ... Mary >> Yes, I know that, but the kids don't! :-) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Mary Don'tcha just love being a kid again though? :-) SignatureMalcolm "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>> Yes, I know that, but the kids don't! :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Don'tcha just love being a kid again though? :-) Some parts of me never stopped. It's only the outside which has :-) Mary > "G.Ross" <> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > You don't need bees for tomato pollination. But you still shouldn't spray > pesticides. In any case pests aren't really a problem for tomatoes. ***** What kind of Tomatoes have you discovered that don't require bees ? Where do you think the fruit comes from, that was where the yellow flower was? >> Water them from soil top when the soil gets Dry to the fingertip (1 cm >> down). Let water that washes through at the bottom drain off with the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No you don't. Last year I grew single plants of several varieties of > tomatoes. They're self-pollinating. ***** The single plant part may be correct but I disagree about 'not needing bees'. ? Bees WILL visit them if there's a > paucity of other pollen and nectar bearing plants but the tomatoes don't > need them. *** I don't really care where there's a Paucity or not. Put a Laundry bag around a plant this year so no insects can get to the flowers and count up how many tomatoes you'll get. / >> Come on, what kind of example is That to set for your Students? .... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > private. > Mary **** The comment had to do with setting an example wrt. trying something new, not the sexual ? part you added that had nothing to do with my post. It was about whether he could grow Tomatoes on his own or not. Nothing more. / >> Yes, you could have pots of vegetbles in the front garden which could be >> removed if you want to sell! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Where do you think the fruit comes from, that was where the yellow flower > was? Yes, but the pollen falls onto the stigma without any help from insects or Man. I grow tomatoes in a greenhouse (where there are no bees) and outdoors (where there are). I get as good a set on the indoor ones as on the outdoor ones. >>> Water them from soil top when the soil gets Dry to the fingertip (1 cm >>> down). Let water that washes through at the bottom drain off with the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ***** The single plant part may be correct but I disagree about 'not > needing bees'. ? Well, as a beekeeper for 25 years I know something about pollination. > Bees WILL visit them if there's a >> paucity of other pollen and nectar bearing plants but the tomatoes don't >> need them. > *** I don't really care where there's a Paucity or not. Put a Laundry bag > around a plant this year so no insects can get to the flowers and count up > how many tomatoes you'll get. / Our greenhouse is a big laundry bag :-) >>> Come on, what kind of example is That to set for your Students? .... >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > **** The comment had to do with setting an example wrt. trying something > new, not the sexual ? part you added that had nothing to do with my post. > It was about whether he could grow Tomatoes on his own or not. Nothing > more. / er - the only sex was in respect of tomatoes.That's what pollination is. Most teachers in UK at least prefer not to have pupils know where they live or their phone numbers or e-mail addresses. They can be the subject of some very nasty and even threatening behaviour. They get enough of that during school hours. It happened to us when Spouse was a teacher, he was open about everything but it wasn't a sensible policy because a few pupils really tried to intimidate him and me. It didn't bother mebut it was too much for him. Mary >***** What kind of Tomatoes have you discovered that don't require bees ? >Where do you think the fruit comes from, that was where the yellow flower >was? Try the following link (all one line) for an explanation of self- pollinating plants which have been bred for our use such as tomatoes and peas: http://www.agbios.com/dbase.php?action=Submit&hstIDXCode=11&trCode=LEPID SignatureMalcolm >>***** What kind of Tomatoes have you discovered that don't require bees ? >>Where do you think the fruit comes from, that was where the yellow flower [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.agbios.com/dbase.php?action=Submit&hstIDXCode=11&trCode=LEPID Nice site, Malcolm,. but I hope folk won't think that only recent GM toms are self fertile ... Mary "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message > >>> I shall not be trying again, and intend to have the whole lot paved over >>> if I can afford it this year. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > for gardening than I did previously (when I used to grow Lolla Rossa > lettuce outside my flat) reflects both a change in energy and lifestyle. All kinds of lettuce are very easy. I don't like the flavour of lolla rossa though - cos are my favourites, or the green cut and come again salad bowls. I must get some seed tomorrow ... >> The fact that you got tomatoes in Gro-bags >>says something, doesn't it? > > It says that I couldn't walk down the garden path (the only bit which > gets long sunlight hours) because I had tomato frames all along the wall > :-) So you can do that again. You don't need bags, large pots standing in large'saucers' are, I found, better. > Now the front garden is a different matter. It would be great for veg, > but it wouldn't increase the value or saleability of the house, a factor > which is always on my mind if I want to give up work quickly. Why would it affect the value of your house? I thought it was trendy to have vegetables mixed with flowers. You don't need to have serried ranks. I don't anyway! Our front garden is full of caravan ... Mary My husband Ian is a Surveyor -always driving around from site to site. So Epilepsy has had a huge impact on his job. Mostly because his company don't want to take ANY risks with him and have confined him to the office for the forseeable future! He could get a driver supplied by the Access to Work scheme in england, but his boss wants him "safe" in the office. The confinement is killing him -and me. He had another absence seizure this morning, after 4 months with nothing. So we are going to have to battle to get him out of that office and back using all his surveying skills with the help of a driver. I don't know what he would do if he ever got made redundant -which may be on the cards. What if the drugs never control the seizures? It just doesnt bear thinking about. When he has a seizure he is unaware so it is up to me to break the bad news to him, and that makes me feel responsible! Its all so difficult. Thanks for listening to my rabbitting! Cathy > My husband Ian is a Surveyor -always driving around from site to site. So > Epilepsy has had a huge impact on his job. Mostly because his company [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Thanks for listening to my rabbitting! > Cathy That's a very sad story, you must both be very frustrated. But the employer's attitude to 'safety' could be diven by HSE attitudes as well as the possibility of litigation. Sadly this is a very real threat these days :-( Mary what is it that looks like a dark sludge and they spread on the corn fields. Just don't get stuck behind the wagon, it moves relly slow and will eat the paint off your car if it splashes. :} >> ... >> > Udders are on the bottom side of the cow and, of course, you can't reach > them while standing (unless in a milking parlor). You could bend over I > suppose, but sometimes it's kind of hard to do things in an upside down > position. That's how hand milking of sheep is done ... I wonder if people have ever milked pigs. Their udders don't really lend themselves to it, no bags... Sorry! Was drifting! >> What kind of cows did you have? A daughter has Traditional Herefords but >> she doesn't milk any of them even for her own use, which I think is a >> pity ... > > We had Holsteins, which are the black and white spotted ones. Udders on coat hangers they're called here! > Herefords around here aren't used for milk production; they're considered > beef animals. They're dual purpose here but mostly beef. If I had a beef cow which was producing milk I'd use it for a jug of milk a day though! > When we raised beef, we had some herefords, white faces, some Angus, and > some mixed breeds. I really thought the herefords were nice calm, polite > animals (they we less lightly to fight with the animal next to them). The > herefords we have around here are basically all brown with white faces, > undersides, and feet. Is that the kind of herefords your daughter has? No, yours are modified Herefords. Ann's are the Traditional Herefords, with short legs, curly hair and horns. They're extremely hardy and can - and usually do - stay out all winter. Ann's calve in the open too. But they are brown with white faces and other bits. Yours have been developed from the older breed. >> You must have a lot of land for such arable crops. Where are you? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stoop to check the milker, check the condition of the udder, and all the > other stuff that goes on. That's a lot of bending and stooping. I'd have thought that would affect the back rather than the knees. It would mine! > We're about in the middle of Wisconsin. This is all farm country around > here. I only know of a couple of dairy operations that don't grow their > own crops. Everybody else grows all or most of what the cows need for > food. Ah (after looking at map) I see! Ann's cattle and sheep are 100% grass fed (her own) but she has a low stock density. Most British farmers buy in fodder. > And when >> you say corn do you mean maize or wheat? > > Maize. Not much wheat grown around here as the climate is not compatible. > Mostly they grow corn, soybeans, hay, and some oats (you get straw from > oats too). I know, Spouse makes skeps and likes using oat straw although it's a bit soft. Rye's the best but not easy to get. But of course he needs long straw and you have to cut it before it's been through the combine, luckily we're able to cut some with a scythe and one farm we know has an annual threshing day when they use wheat cut with a reaper-binder from the 1950s. > They don't grow much oats anymore though. It's not uncommon here, especially in Scotland. > The southern part of the state grows more wheat. Over in the Stevens > Point area they grow potatoes because the soil is real sandy there. There > are a few places that grow vegetables for canning purposes, but all the > canneries in this area have been closed for years, so there really aren't > any farmers growing those types of crops today. Some cranberries are > grown in the marshy areas. That's fascinating. > We also have a large vegetable garden. My mother-in-law and my husband's > grandmother taught me the initial stuff 38 years ago, and I've expanded my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > celery, different greens, radishes, and other healthy things. If anyone > needs help with veggie gardening, I'd be happy to try to help. I grow beetroot, some carrots, lots of tomatoes, different brassica, runner beans, potatoes, courgettes (zucchini), cucumber, chard and various herbs. I love eating our own produce but we have such a small garden that even for two of us we can't be self sufficient. Having two hens free ranging doesn't make it easy either, we have to put the vegetables in runs! And there are some things I've tried and tried but can't grow well. We have too much rain and too many slugs. This year is proving to be relatively dry but not dry enough to discourage them. When I went to USA once I changed planes at Chicago. Not so far from you! Mary Mary, This is so much fun reading and learning about other people's farming and gardening. Say, where in the UK are you. My English ancestors came from mostly the North Riding (some in the East Riding). My daughter is about to marry a young man from Hull (he's in the US now). Also have Scottish and Irish blood in me, but we haven't been able to figure out where they came from. Barb > >> ... > >> [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > > Mary > Mary, > > This is so much fun reading and learning about other people's farming and > gardening. Say, where in the UK are you. I'm in Leeds, Yorkshire. Used to be the West Riding, but not far from the North Riding. > My English ancestors came from mostly > the North Riding (some in the East Riding). My daughter is about to marry > a > young man from Hull (he's in the US now). Also have Scottish and Irish > blood in > me, but we haven't been able to figure out where they came from. We're all 32nd cousin to the Queen! We share all our genes with someone else. That means that you're related to me :-) My mother was born in Harrogate. Mary >We're all 32nd cousin to the Queen! We share all our genes with someone >else. That means that you're related to me :-) My mother was born in >Harrogate. Yes, and even worse, because of the carbon cycle, some of your atoms were once part of Henry VIII ! SignatureMalcolm >>We're all 32nd cousin to the Queen! We share all our genes with someone >>else. That means that you're related to me :-) My mother was born in >>Harrogate. > > Yes, and even worse, because of the carbon cycle, some of your atoms > were once part of Henry VIII ! Much worse, they were once part of his dad. The first Tudor bastard. But some were part of Jesus :-) Mary I'm Henry IIIV, I am, Henry IIIV, I am, I am, I got married to the widow next door she's been married seven times before. Mike > >We're all 32nd cousin to the Queen! We share all our genes with someone > >else. That means that you're related to me :-) My mother was born in > >Harrogate. > > Yes, and even worse, because of the carbon cycle, some of your atoms > were once part of Henry VIII ! > I'm Henry IIIV, I am, Henry IIIV, I am, I am, I got married to the widow > next door she's been married seven times before. > > Mike er - and your point is? Mary >>I'm Henry IIIV, I am, Henry IIIV, I am, I am, I got married to the widow >>next door she's been married seven times before. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mary That this thread is starting to sound like a old bad song. Mike >That this thread is starting to sound like a old bad song. >Mike Plonk the thread then (if you can on your newsreader). SignatureMalcolm I'm sorry, I started the thread because I wanted a little bit of insight into the group. I've been lurking for years with some participation and wondered how our affliction has affected everyone else's carriers. It started out well, thanks for a bit of insight, consider it "plonked" Mike > >That this thread is starting to sound like a old bad song. > >Mike > > Plonk the thread then (if you can on your newsreader). >>>I'm Henry IIIV, I am, Henry IIIV, I am, I am, I got married to the widow >>>next door she's been married seven times before. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That this thread is starting to sound like a old bad song. That's your opinion. It might be the opinion of others too.I suggest that none of you reads newposts. For those who are enjoying it I suggest you don't open Mike's contributions, if you have been. Mary > Mike >>>>I'm Henry IIIV, I am, Henry IIIV, I am, I am, I got married to the widow >>>>next door she's been married seven times before. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >>Mike It isn't opinion to say that discussions of gardening on this thread are OT. clyde >>>>>I'm Henry IIIV, I am, Henry IIIV, I am, I am, I got married to the >>>>>widow [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It isn't opinion to say that discussions of gardening on this thread are > OT. Gardening wasn't stated. An old song was. Mary > clyde >>It isn't opinion to say that discussions of gardening on this thread are >>OT. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >>clyde "Gardening" or not, the follwing is OT here, and that's to say nothing of the many other messages: "I grow tomatoes in a greenhouse (where there are no bees) and outdoors (where there are). I get as good a set on the indoor ones as on the outdoor ones." > "Gardening" or not, the follwing is OT here, and that's to say nothing of > the many other messages: I suggest you kill the thread then or at least don't open any more posts and let those who are enjoying them do so. We're in your debt for starting it, all ng threads develop and most drift, it's the natuire of ngs. You have the option to ignore it. Mary Mary >>"Gardening" or not, the follwing is OT here, and that's to say nothing of >>the many other messages: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > all ng threads develop and most drift, it's the natuire of ngs. You have the > option to ignore it. So do you. > Mary > Mary Barb, My two favorite farm stories run around the same animal. The cow. I went to college in Upstate NY and lived in a very small town. While going to my new apartment I was chased by a heard of cow that had gotten out. I am not making up the name, Farmer Brown on his big ole tractor came a hopping and hollering and got the girls home. Like I swaid a very small town, about 1100 people. When the kids form NYC would come there, many had never seen a cow or country for that matter. They would drive by the pasture and ask what those animals were and what is that smell. LOL Chris > Barb, > My two favorite farm stories run around the same animal. The cow. > I went to college in Upstate NY and lived in a very small town. While > going to my new apartment I was chased by a heard of cow that had > gotten out. I am not making up the name, Farmer Brown on his big ole > tractor came a hopping and hollering and got the girls home. Cows (the girls) themselves aren't really dangerous, but the bulls sure are. Cows are really nosy though and will come to investigate anything new. They don't have any top teeth either, just bottom teeth, so they aren't going to eat you or anything. > Like I swaid a very small town, about 1100 people. When the kids form > NYC would come there, many had never seen a cow or country for that > matter. They would drive by the pasture and ask what those animals were > and what is that smell. My family lived in a city, and I think I only visited a farm a couple of times in my life during my childhood. Never in my wildest imagination did I expect to marry a farmer. County life is wonderful although I feel there is much more privacy in the city. Barb > LOL > > Chris Cows (the girls) themselves aren't really dangerous, but the bulls sure are. Cows are really nosy though and will come to investigate anything new. They don't have any top teeth either, just bottom teeth, so they aren't going to eat you or anything. Oh the Girls with all their jewlery on are great. Just thought it was a bit funny being chased by them. Let's go guys, I've been watching this group for years and I know there are a lot more of you out there. Let's hear your stories. Mike > Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding what > everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Mike This is a tough one. I have had epil since I was 9 months old. Yes, because of epil I was fired and or not hired for many jobs. Yes, it kept me away from a career in the military. yes it messed up my thinking and made college next to impossible, took 6 yrs. Since my brain surgery in 1999, a little over 6 yrs now, I have been with the same company and am moving, slowly very slowly, up the ladder. So prior to 1999, yes it effected me in fast food, cashier, weigh master, gas station attendant, cab driver, Ice rink manager, convience store manager, pysch counselor. Since 99 it hasn't effected, for the most part, pysch counselor, web master, operations analyst and hopefully soon team leader. Howdy! I'm a webmaster! In the past I've worked in private industry, in academia and for the federal government. SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > Let's go guys, I've been watching this group for years and I know there are > a lot more of you out there. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks, > > Mike > Howdy! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > federal > government. About time we heard from you, Dave! And has the condition pertitent to this group affected your job/s? Mary > http://www.howdydave.com > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> > Thanks, >> > Mike Howdy Mary! Yup! I was a software engineer on salary. (Being on salary was a "reasonable accomodation" to my epilepsy.) The new boss saw that I was the only person not on the clock. He thought that this was unfair and put me on wages. Due to seizure activity I could not do the 7:30 to 4:15 if I had a seizure the previous day and was often unable to call in. Lost that job in a 30% across the board layoff. I did some work for the US Government and had a job all lined up for myself when I graduated with the US State Department. 6 weeks before graduation the Federal Government put a hiring freeze on. Subsiquently: I had some major injuries (burns) due to seizures, Was on track for epilepsy surgery (disqualified after 10 months) Got a VNS. Now I have a great big gaping hole in my employment record. These days my work is almost exclusively done on a contract basis. If you do contract work you must provide your own insurance. Even if you ignore my pre-existing conditions, no insurance company is going to touch a person who has a consistant $700+/month pharmacy expense. I'm on permanant disability now for 2 reasons: 1: I can't afford to work & pay my medical expenses out of my own pocket. 2: My sleep schedule is so screwed up that I can not do shift work. SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > > Howdy! > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> > Thanks, > >> > Mike A word of explination here. When I went to college I could only get so far in any academic program before I ran into a brick wall. So... in 1979 I left school with only an Associates Degree in Software Systems. My employer was so impressed that he gave me a job as a Software Engineer. When I got laid off (surprise!) nobody wanted to hire an engineer with an associates degree. I went back to school in 1987 and got a B.S. (B.Sci. in the UK) in Applied Science (1992.) The school I went to (Rochester Institute of Technology) has a 5 year program. You spend 4 years taking classes and work for 12 months before you get your degree. My 12 months work included working for the State Department in Washington, DC. I was a shoe-in after graduating because I'd worked there before, my boss liked my work, and I had peaked the interest of some people working in the Middle East Dept. (I had no social or legal obligations, wanted to work in the Middle East and had studied the Arabic language and culture.) What the smeg... for the full story take a look at the resume on my site! SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > Howdy Mary! > [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Mike >A word of explination here. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > engineer > with an associates degree. Those of us in UK won't know wht an associate degree is. Well, I don't anyway ... but I have no kind of degree :-) > I went back to school in 1987 and got a B.S. (B.Sci. in the UK) in Applied > Science (1992.) The school I went to (Rochester Institute of Technology) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What the smeg... for the full story take a look at the resume on my site! OK, since it's you! I've done it before but now there's a context. XMary >> Howdy Mary! >> [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Mike Howdy Mary! An Associates Degree is a 2 year program. SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > >A word of explination here. > > [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > >> > >> > Thanks, > >> > >> > Mike "Dave ????" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:5wE5e.815 > I was a software engineer on salary. (Being on salary was a "reasonable > accomodation" to my epilepsy.) The new boss saw that I was the only person [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > across > the board layoff. And that's a reasonable accommodation??? > I did some work for the US Government Oh - so it was YOUR fault :-) > and had a job all lined up for myself > when I graduated with the US State Department. 6 weeks before graduation > the > Federal Government put a hiring freeze on. Subsiquently: > I had some major injuries (burns) due to seizures, > Was on track for epilepsy surgery (disqualified after 10 months) Why? > Now I have a great big gaping hole in my employment record. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > 2: My sleep schedule is so screwed up that I can not do shift work. Does permanent disability mean that you get some kind of state income? Mary >> > Howdy! >> > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Mike > "Dave ????" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:5wE5e.815 > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Why? Seizure activity in BOTH temporal lobes (secondary epileptogenesis.) Ya' can't amuptate BOTH halves of your brain don'cha know! > > Now I have a great big gaping hole in my employment record. > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Does permanent disability mean that you get some kind of state income? Here in the USA they have "Social Security." Part of your paycheck goes into the federal program and you get a government check upon retirement or if you are disabled. It's not much, but better than nuthin'! SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > Mary > > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> > Mike "Dave ????" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:eGk6e.939 >> > I'm on permanant disability now for 2 reasons: >> > 1: I can't afford to work & pay my medical expenses out of my own [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > into the federal program and you get a government check upon retirement or > if you are disabled. It's not much, but better than nuthin'! I didn't know that. I thought that you had to provide for yourselves from cradle to grave ... But you said that you get a check on retirement or disablement. Is that a one-off or a regular payment? Mary Howdy! Social security checks are issued monthly. I have my money sent to my bank for direct deposit SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > > "Dave ????" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:eGk6e.939 [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Mary > Howdy! > > Social security checks are issued monthly. I have my money sent to my bank > for direct deposit So. When's our date? Mary It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. I have been trying for 18 months now and still haven't suceeded. My first mistake was not having a lawyer. My understanding is that even with a lawyer it can take up to two years :) owlvee >>Howdy! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mary > It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. Surely it depends on the type and severity? Mary I have 2 grand mals monthly and at least 2 petites and most of the time more per week....... owlvee >>It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. > > Surely it depends on the type and severity? > > Mary >I have 2 grand mals monthly and at least 2 petites and most of the time >more per week....... > > owlvee Hey! I wasn't suggesting that you don't deserve it :-) I know that in UK some people seem to have to jump through hoops to qualify for benefits (others seem to get them just by saying they want them). But I wouldn't even apply for a benefit although I'm technically an epileptic. I know others would in my situation :-( It's a funny old world ... Mary : NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-1-245.d01.scpnbh.pbtcomm.net : Mime-Version: 1.0 : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit : X-Trace: news3.infoave.net 1113258052 359211 64.53.27.245 (11 Apr 2005 22:20:52 GMT) : X-Complaints-To: abuse@infoave.net : NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:20:52 +0000 (UTC) : User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) : X-Accept-Language: en-us, en : In-Reply-To: <425acddd$0$28627$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : > : > Mary It took me two and a half years to get it. Some states are easier to get it through than others. You need a lawyer, they wouldn't consider me without one. It also has to do with what your career was before your epilepsy got bad enough to stop you from working. The social security panel will see if there is any other job you could do with your disability, like they suggested parking lot attendant for me. My lawyer was able to convince them that wasn't quite the same as a mechanical engineer. You need to document seizures and severity, witness statements can help, and any emergency room trips you should get records. It's a uphill battle, but my life has been much more stable since I started getting it. It buys groceries and pays the house payment when I can't do anything else, and that can help your general stress level, which (for me) dropped the number of seizures. Tinker "Tinker" <tinman@gbronline.com> wrote in message news:gNCdnT4wEL4GDP3fRVn-> > : >>It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. > : > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > through than others. You need a lawyer, they wouldn't consider me without > one. You need a lawyer! But doesn't that add to the cost? Who pays for the lawyer? > It also has to do with what your career was before your epilepsy got > bad enough to stop you from working. The social security panel will see if [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > general > stress level, which (for me) dropped the number of seizures. I'm pleased that you're more settled but I'm sorry that you have to jump through such hoops. This is a revelation ... Mary > Tinker > I'm pleased that you're more settled but I'm sorry that you have to jump > through such hoops. This is a revelation ... > > Mary Mary, a little OT drift for you. [By the way, you can practically see the new shoots spreading on my Hydrangea.] :) I have no experience with health care in the UK, but there is an interesting discussion of health care in the US compared to Britain here: http://www.harrysnews.com/tgDieinBritain.htm > > I'm pleased that you're more settled but I'm sorry that you have to > jump [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > [By the way, you can practically see the new shoots spreading on my > Hydrangea.] :) Huh? I don't like hydrangea ... overblown, garish Edwardian imports :-) > I have no experience with health care in the UK, but there is an > interesting discussion of health care in the US compared to Britain here: > > http://www.harrysnews.com/tgDieinBritain.htm I didn't open it, why should I? I'm happy with our medical treatment, even if I weren't I wouldn't travel to US for it. Not that I wouldn't trust US medics but that it would cost too much and I wouldn't be any more sure that treatment there (or anywhere else in the world) would be better. My life has been saved twice by UK surgeons. That's not strictly true, although the first (the neuro surgeon)was British he was born in South Africa of Dutch descent, the other (the cancer surgeon) was Irish. If I'd been in USA the same sort of thing would have been the case. In fact I think if I have any concerns it's that there's too much interference between conception and death. I'm strong enough to resist it, many people aren't; many people think it's their right to demand everything they want, whether they need it or not. That's not my style. I make up my own mind. Mary >> > I'm pleased that you're more settled but I'm sorry that you have to >>jump [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Huh? The obligatory gardening comments. > I don't like hydrangea ... overblown, garish Edwardian imports :-) > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Mary Good for you. But you seem a bit shrill when others don't agree with you. >>> > I'm pleased that you're more settled but I'm sorry that you have to >>>jump [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > The obligatory gardening comments. Huh? ... >> That's not my style. I make up my own mind. >> >> Mary > > Good for you. But you seem a bit shrill when others don't agree with you. Perhaps your hearing is ultra sensitive :-) Mary > Perhaps your hearing is ultra sensitive :-) > > Mary You aren't doing your part, Mary. I can't keep this argument going alone. :) >> Perhaps your hearing is ultra sensitive :-) >> >> Mary > >You aren't doing your part, Mary. I can't keep this argument going >alone. :) I'll take over for her for a while on the OT: Gardening for Epilepsy. Hydrangeas are all very well, but almost nothing will grow in my garden. Nothing, that is until I realised my acers were all in leaf whilst all the ones in garden centres were still wondering whether it was winter or what. So I couldn't resist going out and buying a few which looked interesting (dropped greatly in price over the past few years), potting them and POW! I have half a garden full of all sorts of different acers, different colours, leaves, heights, looking absolutely wonderful. Maybe that's the answer to life: give up teaching and just sell early acers from my back garden? Really quite amazing bearing in mind that even the weeds haven't put on their spring growth yet. SignatureMalcolm "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >> >>You aren't doing your part, Mary. I can't keep this argument going >>alone. :) > > I'll take over for her for a while on the OT: Gardening for Epilepsy. > Hydrangeas are all very well, No they're not! > but almost nothing will grow in my garden. I have to grow my vegetables in runs to protectthem from our two small banties :-( We have no grass nd few flowers. > garden centres were still wondering whether it was winter or > what. Years ago we cut down tress and were amazed to see sky! Then things started to grow.I loved the trees but the light and food were good too ... > So I couldn't resist going out and buying a few which looked interesting > (dropped greatly in price over the past few years), potting them and > POW! I have half a garden full of all sorts of different acers, > different colours, leaves, heights, looking absolutely wonderful. Maybe > that's the answer to life: give up teaching and just sell early acers > from my back garden? That's not as bad an idea as might be thought. I'll be your first customer. > Really quite amazing bearing in mind that even the weeds haven't put on > their spring growth yet. Why do hens not eat weeds? Mary >Why do hens not eat weeds? I don't know. Why don't hens eat weeds? (Sorry, I thought it was one of those "Why did the chicken cross the road?" questions). SignatureMalcolm >>Why do hens not eat weeds? > > I don't know. Why don't hens eat weeds? > > (Sorry, I thought it was one of those "Why did the chicken cross the > road?" questions). Would that it was :-( I have so many weeds ... I remember the old joke... oh no, I'll be accused of being off topic ... Mary Talking about a do something for a living, I just posted this on my other epilepsy group.. I am sitting here listening to the tv (it's in another room) with nothing to do. I just heard the people talking about how their children were surfing the net, while they new not a thing about the "contraptions". I started to think (usually a bad sign in itself!). Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really computer illiterate and wanting to know about these things enough, that they would come over to a person's home, pick them up, pay a couple of bucks, and then bring the person back home, all for a days attention with a pc? I know I can't drive, and just sit around home all day long making do (a familiar story of probably a lot of epileptics I am sure), whereas could probably be with an elderly person if nothing else, keeping them company for a few hours a day, for a couple of bucks or at least a smile. I ain't trying to get money so much (I would try my graphic arts field from home more for that), but hey, I know enough about computers to go from buying a person one, to reformatting theirs and getting them on the internet. I could at least get them to google or our support group and/or oldpeopleturnednew.com if nothing else! I thought about throwing up a couple of flyers (as could any or you) just to check it out. Any ideas or comments? ~..~ owlvee Now that's a living!!! : Talking about a do something for a living, I just posted this on my : other epilepsy group.. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : the "contraptions". : I started to think (usually a bad sign in itself!). <Snip> : Any ideas or comments? : ~..~ : owlvee : : Now that's a living!!! This has been my experience on teaching someone how to use a computer. It's an on going commitment, as they learn the basics, they want to learn more. So you need to expect calls, 'how do I?' several times a day. Maintance is another big part of the picture, from cleaning off spyware they happily clicked on to fixing hardware problems, that is now your domain. These aren't bad things, but it's something to be aware of. I set up several young adults on the reservation that I grew up on with some computers, and my phone rang off the hook for the first couple of weeks. (children are not born with the knowledge to run a computer, in spite of what parents say) it slowed to a trickle, now it's questions that I need to research. This has been a wonderful experience for me, and I really learned much more about computers this way. Nothing challenges you to learn like someone else asking for help. Tinker > Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really > computer illiterate That, I'm sorry to say, made me see red. We keep getting information about computer courses for elderly people, offering simple, easily understood instructions tailored to our needs. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Who do these peoplethink INVENTED computers? It wasn't toddlers. It wasn't teenagers. It wasn't the trendy twenties! Hell, computers have been around for donkeys years. I've been using one since 1989 (they weren't new then but I couldn't afford one) and can probably do far more than any youngster- simply because of my longer experienceand expecially with systems other than the wysiwig user-friendly graphics-based things they're used to. Ask a youngster what DOS is and do you think they'd know? Whereas many of us can still use it. It's patronising to pick out elderly people as a target for computer literacy. Sure, there might be some who don't know about computers but, I suggest, that's because they don't WANT or need to know, they're happy not knowing. If they'd wanted to know they'd have learned ages ago, as I did. I'm sorry if this is blunt but I really think it's insulting to suggest that elderly people need such attention. And what, in any case, is 'elderly'? Mary : > Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really : > computer illiterate [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : : GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Just let the youngsters think we don't know nothin' Makes it easier to blame them for the micheif we get up to :) : Who do these peoplethink INVENTED computers? It wasn't toddlers. It wasn't : teenagers. It wasn't the trendy twenties! [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] : : Mary It might come down to that we remember computers as fussy and delicate (hit the wrong key and the .txt file was gone forever) where the kids today have the point and click, you can't break it by clicking on anything kind of mentality. Elderly is a state of mind, today, it's hard to get around the house without bumping into things (petite mals) so I'm feeling a little old. Tomorrow I hope to feel better, so that will be a young day. Hell, I still feel like the same person I was when I was twelve, so I might have a temper tantrum tomorrow. :) Tinker > : > Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really > : > computer illiterate [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > blame > them for the micheif we get up to :) That's the line I take. It's like letting men think we don't know what a spanner is ... > : Who do these peoplethink INVENTED computers? It wasn't toddlers. It > wasn't [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > (hit > the wrong key and the .txt file was gone forever) I never, ever, did that. It's akin to throwing a letter in the bin, you don't do it. I could never understand anyone who did it 'acidentally', you had to hit the right key! > Elderly is a state of mind, today, it's hard to get around the house > without bumping into things (petite mals) so I'm feeling a little old. > Tomorrow I hope to feel better, so that will be a young day. Hell, I still > feel like the same person I was when I was twelve, so I might have a > temper > tantrum tomorrow. :) Thirteen, most of the time. Ten the rest. That's mentally of course. Physically today is good, yesterday I felt like my 90 year old friend. My mother's ninety five, she takes no medication for anything ("I don't need to") and does everything for herself in her own house, which is better kept than ours ... But she won't have a computer and I KNOW she'd love it :-( I suppose elderly *could* be a state of mind, I know some younger people (in their fifties) who are so staid and boring that they make me want to spin them round. My grandparents were never like that! :-) Mary > Tinker Howdy Mary! A "spanner" is one of those people who keep sending you junk e-mail, right? SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com > > : > Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really > > : > computer illiterate [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > > > Tinker > Howdy Mary! > > A "spanner" is one of those people who keep sending you junk e-mail, > right? No, Dwahling, that's a spammer. I'll come across to New England andshow you a spanner and how it's used, eh? Kiss kiss, Mary > > Howdy Mary! > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mary Howdy Mary! I just love wrench-ed women!!! SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:C3l9e.2382>> > Howdy Mary! >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I just love wrench-ed women!!! And I love a man who knows how to use his tools. Mary > > Howdy Mary! > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mary Howdy Mary! I just love wrench-ed women!!! SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com >Howdy Mary! > >I just love wrench-ed women!!! Dave, Lever alone. She's mine. SignatureMalcolm >>Howdy Mary! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lever alone. She's mine. Stop monkeying around! Mary >>>Howdy Mary! >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Mary :-< SignatureMalcolm >>>>Howdy Mary! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > :-< She sounds like a chimp off the old block to me. :) ~..~ owlvee >>>>>Howdy Mary! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > She sounds like a chimp off the old block to me. > :) No, just nuts. I wonder when someone is going to say the obvious ... ? You're all so refined :-) Mary > ~..~ > owlvee >>>>>>Howdy Mary! >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >I wonder when someone is going to say the obvious ... ? You're all so >refined :-) We're tying to keep this thread polite, Mary. SignatureMalcolm >>>>>>>Howdy Mary! >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> > We're tying to keep this thread polite, Mary. Tying? Oh.That means no-one's winning :-( Or is it such an erudite pun that I can't understand it? Mary >>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Or is it such an erudite pun that I can't understand it? Sorry, sloppy typing. I must tighten up my keyboard skills. SignatureMalcolm >>> We're tying to keep this thread polite, Mary. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Sorry, sloppy typing. I must tighten up my keyboard skills. Oh <disappointed>, I thought I was going to learn something new :-( Mary >>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Mary ???"erudite"??? Now I have to pull out the darn dictionary! Origin: Latin: Eruditus, p. P. Of erudire to free from rudeness, to polish Ya really think anyone here would be rude!!! Polish maybe but not rude :) ~..~ owlvee >>>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Ya really think anyone here would be rude!!! > Polish maybe but not rude I'm not Polish, I'm English ... and the English are never rude ... <whistles> Mary > >>>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! > >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Mary Oh well... I started it, guess I'm gonna' haf'ta Finnish it, eh? SignatureDave ©¿©¬ >> >>>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! >> >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> > Oh well... I started it, guess I'm gonna' haf'ta Finnish it, eh? That's just hammering it home. Mary > >> >>>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! > >> >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Mary Isn't that just like a woman??? Using the wrong tool -- trying to hammer with a wrench! SignatureDave ©¿©¬ "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Eqece.63>> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>Howdy Mary! >> >> >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Using the wrong tool -- trying to hammer with a wrench! But that's how I was taught - by a man. When I questioned it he said it was a dual purpose tool ... I reckoned he was plumb crazy. Mary > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Eqece.63>> >> [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Mary Plumb crazy, eh? His name wouldn't happen to be "Bob" would it? -- Dave ©¿©¬ >> "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Eqece.63>> >>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >His name wouldn't happen to be "Bob" would it? Nah, it's standard social practice. I know of a few wrenches who could do with a damned good hammering. SignatureMalcolm >> "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Eqece.63>> >>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > His name wouldn't happen to be "Bob" would it? Are you trying to lead me on? Mary >>>"Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Eqece.63>> >>> [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > Mary Lead you on??? Whoah now Mary!!! Stop right here!!! That would be "plumb crazy" for "Bob", Gary, or anyone else to do wouldn't it!!! "Not being rude", although "the English are never rude", but my thoughts are (not keeping them to myself), if you could just find the right "tool",and I know it isn't a "wrench" (maybe a spoon!), being "just like a woman" ya are, make a "hammer" baloney sandwich and call this "thread" "finnish"d, we could all stop "monkeying around" since it's "obvious" "no-ones winning"! Now this is what I call "hammering it home" but sorry "that's how I was taught". Without having "to pull out the darn dictionary" and trying to be "refined" about the entire ordeal. Of course I, "Polish maybe" that I am, could be "just nuts", the "chimp off the old block" I am!!! We are all smiling aren't we :) ????? ~..~ owlvee >>>>"Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Eqece.63>> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] >~..~ >owlvee I think you've hit the nail right on the head with that. Well done, owlvee! SignatureMalcolm > Whoah now Mary!!! Stop right here!!! OK. > > Whoah now Mary!!! Stop right here!!! > > OK. "geez... nobody let's me have no FUN anymore..." He mumbles under his breath while stomping off into the cyber-sunset! SignatureDave ©¿©¬ >> > Whoah now Mary!!! Stop right here!!! >> >> OK. >> > "geez... nobody let's me have no FUN anymore..." Oh, Dave Dwahling, I thought you meant it! I was hurt, upset, nay devastated ... > He mumbles under his breath while stomping off into the cyber-sunset! Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? Not Malcolm, he's not for sparring :-) Mary XX >Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? > >Not Malcolm, he's not for sparring :-) ? Mud-wrestling then? SignatureMalcolm >>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? >> >>Not Malcolm, he's not for sparring :-) > > ? Mud-wrestling then? There's a first timefor everything, I'lldonmy wellies. Miry >>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >There's a first timefor everything, I'lldonmy wellies. You don't need wellies for mud-wrestling. Give them to Dave - he'll find a use for them. SignatureMalcolm "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You don't need wellies for mud-wrestling. Give them to Dave - he'll find > a use for them. Do they have sheep in Rochester? Mary >"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >Do they have sheep in Rochester? Not many, but Dave keeps them on the pretext that 'they keep his lawn trimmed' :) Bah. SignatureMalcolm >>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bah. That's a woolly reply, Mary drunk >>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >That's a woolly reply, Sheer profundity. SignatureMalcolm >>>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> > Sheer profundity. No need to ram it home. Mary >>>>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >No need to ram it home. You started it! (Warning: on the autism group, threads like this can run for months) SignatureMalcolm >>>>>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > You started it! Nyer nyer! > (Warning: on the autism group, threads like this can run for months) Months? Is that all they can manage? Feeble :-) Mary >>>>>>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Nyer nyer! That doesn't sound like a ewe at all! Baa Baa is what you want. Come on, join in the spirit of things Mary! SignatureMalcolm >>>>>>>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > That doesn't sound like a ewe at all! Baa Baa is what you want. Come on, > join in the spirit of things Mary! It's what ewe sounded like! Mary, who doesn't have one of any size outside the freezer > >>>>>>>>"Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Mary, who doesn't have one of any size outside the freezer I was staying out of it for a bit 'cuz I didn't want to horn in or get somebody's goat! SignatureDave ©¿©¬ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Don't go, who can I spar with if you're not here? >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > I was staying out of it for a bit 'cuz I didn't want to horn in or get > somebody's goat! I was wondering where the rest of the flock was! Mary >>Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really >>computer illiterate > > That, I'm sorry to say, made me see red. It's good to see ya aren't color blind anyways :) > We keep getting information about computer courses for elderly people, > offering simple, easily understood instructions tailored to our needs. (Remember the above sentence for it is referenced below **) > GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! > > Who do these peoplethink INVENTED computers? It wasn't toddlers. It wasn't > teenagers. It wasn't the trendy twenties! Actually I think it was: Konrad Zuse (1910-95) "inventor of the modern computer". In 1936, Zuse made a mechanical calculator called the Z1, the first binary computer.AGE 26 Now that's not counting (pun on words)the abacus if you include calculators.. > Hell, computers have been around for donkeys years. I've been using one > since 1989 (they weren't new then but I couldn't afford one) and can > probably do far more than any youngster- simply because of my longer > experienceand expecially with systems other than the wysiwig user-friendly > graphics-based things they're used to. Ask a youngster what DOS is and do > you think they'd know? Whereas many of us can still use it. And a person thinking that by knowing DOS and other antiquated systems makes them more of an expert than the "youngsters" of today on a computer simply isn't true, just more pompous. Just because a person knows what a POT is, because it came before the PAN doesn't mean they can make cook better. To say one can do "far more" than "any youngster" is pushing it in any subject, not just computers, don't ya think. (Unless maybe ones definition of a "youngster" is one under the age of 8 or 10!)... . > It's patronising to pick out elderly people as a target for computer > literacy. Sure, there might be some who don't know about computers but, I > suggest, that's because they don't WANT or need to know, they're happy not > knowing. If they'd wanted to know they'd have learned ages ago, as I did. "Some" is the word. Sure "some" don't want to know about computers, but I think "some" do or else they wouldn't have the commercials. Most people that know anything at all about computers are more interested in money than helping an "elderly" person get involved with the internet system. I am inspired by the following: Owlvee, My husband and I rebuild computers for the disabled and I know the ones we send to don't know much about computers. http://www.fightfor.org/computer_site/computer.html So I would think Yes, people would like to know more and someone friendly and non-business like would be a great help to them. Some techs can get a bit stuffy and to technical, if you know what I mean. I say put up a sign at the grocery store next time your there. Also put an ad in the paper, call retirement centers etc. > I'm sorry if this is blunt but I really think it's insulting to suggest that > elderly people need such attention. Everyone needs attention :) > And what, in any case, is 'elderly'? > > Mary You must have your definition already by the (see above***) "tailored to our needs" expression in your posting. What's yours? One technical definition I guess is a person 55 years of age or older as defined by the New York State Human Rights Law. As an adjective: Being past middle age and approaching old age; rather old. Of, relating to, or characteristic of older persons or life in later years. Truefully, I guess "elderly" is defined in the eyes of the beholder. My definition of elderly is one being older and in the case of "my" posting to help them, is one that is unable to get out and mingle with others easily. That is my opinion and like a.sholes, everyone has one-I'll say it before anyone else does.. Just saying a person is elderly to me doesn't mean that they are stupid, dumb, crippled, ugly, mean, or,in any way a derrogatory term. I just figure that "elderly people " are those older people that will appreciate company and attention, whether it be playing on a computer, or just laughing together for a day as the "elderly" people under "my" definition fit, and playing on the internet with them is the best way I know how to do it. And speaking of the elderly and just to keep the posting true to the subject which seems to have wondered lately, if I really wanted to make a "living" I would be a "Preacher" and scam and victimize all those (both youngsters and elderly)that have a good heart by taking all they have in the name of a "GOD" by the way. ("Jesus Loves You" -Give me a dime for the Church heh?). A lot easier than learning DOS, cause I know!).. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Now lots of people can see red:) - Oh no, not RED, because it's a communist color that is non-religious. I guess maybe orange, or how about a pretty pink?? Go ahead, take away my Bronze Star, see if I care! Have a nice day..... :) owlvee >>>Do any of you think there are older people out here that are really >>>computer illiterate >> >> That, I'm sorry to say, made me see red. > > It's good to see ya aren't color blind anyways :) No, I have regular eye tests (free to over sixties). >> We keep getting information about computer courses for elderly people, >> offering simple, easily understood instructions tailored to our needs. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > computer". In 1936, Zuse made a mechanical calculator called the Z1, the > first binary computer.AGE 26 But not today's trendies. > Now that's not counting (pun on words)the abacus if you include > calculators.. Bet you can't find who invented that! I used to work in a Chinese restaurant (the owner died yesterday) and we used an abacus, it was faster than the automatic till they had. >> Hell, computers have been around for donkeys years. I've been using one >> since 1989 (they weren't new then but I couldn't afford one) and can [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > makes them more of an expert than the "youngsters" of today on a computer > simply isn't true, I didn't say we were more of an expert. That's your interpretation of what I said. >> It's patronising to pick out elderly people as a target for computer >> literacy. Sure, there might be some who don't know about computers but, I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "Some" is the word. Sure "some" don't want to know about computers, but I > think "some" do or else they wouldn't have the commercials. Huh? You think that commercials are a response to wants? That's not what marketing is about. > Owlvee, > My husband and I rebuild computers for the disabled and I know the ones we > send to don't know much about computers. Of course there are some people who would like to know more. But to aim adverts at older people is offensive as aiming them at women. > So I would think Yes, people would like to know more and someone friendly > and non-business like would be a great help to them. > Some techs can get a bit stuffy and to technical, if you know what I mean. No I don't. > I say put up a sign at the grocery store next time your there. Also put > an ad in the paper, call retirement centers etc. And women's groups and black churches and... >> I'm sorry if this is blunt but I really think it's insulting to suggest >> that elderly people need such attention. > > Everyone needs attention :) SUCH attention I said. >> And what, in any case, is 'elderly'? >> >> Mary > > You must have your definition already by the (see above***) "tailored to > our needs" expression in your posting. No, that's what the advertisers say. I'd like to know what they mean. Do they mean that we need to have things spelled out for us in monosyllabilic words? Do they mean that we need special cushions to sit on? Do they mean that we need large keys on the pad or a slow cursor? Some might, but so might some younger people. It's demeaning to suggest that age is a disability. > What's yours? I thought about this today and came up with the age of our parents. The range shifts. My mother is 95, in fact she's more alert and intelligent than many people half a century or more younger in years. > One technical definition I guess is a person 55 years of age or older as > defined by the New York State Human Rights Law. I'd say that 55 was approaching middle age, certainly not elderly. > As an adjective: Being past middle age and approaching old age; rather > old. Of, relating to, or characteristic of older persons or life in later > years. And does that mean we're incapable of understanding what younger people can understand? > Truefully, I guess "elderly" is defined in the eyes of the beholder. Indeed. > My definition of elderly is one being older and in the case of "my" > posting to help them, is one that is unable to get out and mingle with > others easily. There are people of all ages who answer to that definition. > That is my opinion and like a.sholes, everyone has one-I'll say it before > anyone else does.. I wouldn't dream of saying that. > Just saying a person is elderly to me doesn't mean that they are stupid, > dumb, ... So why do they need special computer tuition? > I just figure that "elderly people " are those older people that will > appreciate company and attention, whether it be playing on a computer, or > just laughing together for a day as the "elderly" people under "my" > definition fit, and playing on the internet with them is the best way I > know how to do it. I think that most people like company. But when we're older we've created circles of companions, friends, social groups, what have you ... in many cases too many to keep up with. We're not needing evening classes or the equivalent for social reasons as we did when we were young and not confident of ourselves or our abilities. > And speaking of the elderly and just to keep the posting true to the > subject which seems to have wondered lately, if I really wanted to make a > "living" I would be a "Preacher" and scam and victimize all those (both > youngsters and elderly)that have a good heart by taking all they have in > the name of a "GOD" by the way. ("Jesus Loves You" -Give me a dime for the > Church heh?). A lot easier than learning DOS, cause I know!).. I bow to your greater experience:-) > GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Now lots of people can see red:) - Oh no, not RED, > because it's a communist color that is non-religious. I guess maybe > orange, or how about a pretty pink?? In UK we're not hung up about communism, didn't think USA was in these days. Orange, as my artist friend used to insist, isn't a colour, it's a fruit which has the hue of red with a yellow bias :-) Pink - you mean like Barbie? No thanks.Or Breast cancer? Already do that. The lot. But Pink has different connotations in UK which I shan't go in to. > Go ahead, take away my Bronze Star, see if I care! er - what's a Bronze Star? I had one for swimming once, nearly sixty years ago ... > Have a nice day..... I do. Every day is precious, every minute is to live. It's been nice sparring with you :-) Mary : "Tinker" <tinman@gbronline.com> wrote in message news:gNCdnT4wEL4GDP3fRVn-> :: : You need a lawyer! : : But doesn't that add to the cost? Who pays for the lawyer? The lawyer is paid out of your benefits. If they award you the lawyer is allowed a percentage of your benefits that start when you file. So when you actually get benefits there is a back pay check starting when Social Security says you became disabled. I got a $12,000 back pay check when they finally awarded it to me. : > It also has to do with what your career was before your epilepsy got : > bad enough to stop you from working. The social security panel will see if [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : > : > Tinker The whole thing with Disability pay is a long and hard trip. I think that's why we have such a homeless problem in the U.S. Some people who qualify aren't mentally capable of doing the paper work necessary to gat what they need. Try filing for free meds sometime. Being disabled can be a full time job just to get the basic needs filled. Tinker > : You need a lawyer! > : [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > they > finally awarded it to me. And what if they don't award you? And what do you live on while the case is being heard? Over here it could take ages ... > The whole thing with Disability pay is a long and hard trip. I think > that's > why we have such a homeless problem in the U.S. Some people who qualify > aren't mentally capable of doing the paper work necessary to gat what they > need. Try filing for free meds sometime. Being disabled can be a full time > job just to get the basic needs filled. Isn't there any free help from advice centres? This is fascinating! But awful ... Mary > Tinker Howdy! I went to the local legal aid society and got an attorney for free! SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > > : "Tinker" <tinman@gbronline.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Tinker Howdy! Epilepsy is a recognized disability under the law. A diagnosis of epilepsy and evidence showing that you can not work because of your epilepsy is all that you should need. If a person wants to get Social Security Disability (SSD) they must have been in the workforce long enough to qualify for it. Otherwise they will have to apply for (I believe) SSI (Social Security Income.) SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > > It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. > > Surely it depends on the type and severity? > > Mary Then with multiple grands and petites, and having working since being 16 and now almost 58, I should get both since having a lawyer this time around. And having a lawyer is almost a necessity unless you are very, very familiar with SSI stuff... :) owlvee Dave ©¿©¬ wrote: > Howdy! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > been in the workforce long enough to qualify for it. Otherwise they will > have to apply for (I believe) SSI (Social Security Income.) Howdy owlvee! The big question is are you going to get SSI or SSD? SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > Then with multiple grands and petites, and having working since being 16 > and now almost 58, I should get both since having a lawyer this time [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > been in the workforce long enough to qualify for it. Otherwise they will > > have to apply for (I believe) SSI (Social Security Income.) Actually I should get both I think. That is if I get either... Don't hold me to it though! :) owlvee Dave ©¿©¬ wrote: > Howdy owlvee! > > The big question is are you going to get SSI or SSD? > Howdy! > > Epilepsy is a recognized disability under the law. A diagnosis of epilepsy > and evidence showing that you can not work because of your epilepsy Ah - so there are degrees? > is all > that you should need. > > If a person wants to get Social Security Disability (SSD) they must have > been in the workforce long enough to qualify for it. Otherwise they will > have to apply for (I believe) SSI (Social Security Income.) I'm more confused than ever now. It'sbad enough trying to understand the British benefit system :-( But thanks, I'm sure it's useful information for someone :-) Mary >> > It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. >> >> Surely it depends on the type and severity? >> >> Mary Howdy! It's pretty much standard procedure to get turned down for Social Security Disability the first time you apply (not matter what your condition is.) I got a lawyer for free from my local legal aid society and he got all of the paperwork togeather and my appeal went through without any problems. SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com > It'a really difficult to get Social Security for epilepsy. I have been > trying for 18 months now and still haven't suceeded. My first mistake [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Mary i guess i am lucky in that respect...got ss disability the first time....and dave i have a vns..govt looks at it as a pacemaker...... >i guess i am lucky in that respect...got ss disability the first > time....and dave i have a vns..govt looks at it as a pacemaker...... LOL! Sounds as though your lawmakers are as dumb as ours in some matters! Mary > >i guess i am lucky in that respect...got ss disability the first > > time....and dave i have a vns..govt looks at it as a pacemaker...... > > LOL! Sounds as though your lawmakers are as dumb as ours in some matters! > > Mary Howdy Mary! That's absolutely true... But I got my SSD before I got my "pacemaker." Course I did have 6 skin graphs and burn scars on 23% of my body.(That might have helped a little!) SignatureDave ???? http://www.howdydave.com "Dave ????" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:wyq8e.1627>> >> LOL! Sounds as though your lawmakers are as dumb as ours in some matters! >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > might > have helped a little!) Heavens! Dare I ask how that happened? Mary Howdy! I picked a fight with a big pot of homemade pea soup... I lost the fight. 10 years later I picked a fight with a pot of spaghetti... Lost that one too... SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com > > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:wyq8e.1627>> > >> LOL! Sounds as though your lawmakers are as dumb as ours in some matters! > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mary > Howdy! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 10 years later I picked a fight with a pot of spaghetti... > Lost that one too... You should pick on someone your own size! Like me. Mary > > Howdy! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mary Howdy Mary! So... you think I won't burn my fingers if I try to pick you up sometime?? SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Rkc9e.1895>> >> You should pick on someone your own size! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So... you think I won't burn my fingers if I try to pick you up sometime?? You won't burn your fingers. I doubt you'd be able to do it though :-( But you could try :-)))))))))))))) Mary > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:Rkc9e.1895>> > >> You should pick on someone your own size! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Howdy Mary! Ho hum... Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:C3l9e.2383>> You should pick on someone your own size! >> >> Like me. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? Oh it is but I thought you were being more literal and at that time I hadn't admitted to my dragon's blood :-) Mary > > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message > news:Rkc9e.1895>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? Unless you're talking about burning my fingers on some "hot buns" or sumthin' like that... :q SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com Holy cow!! :-) I started this thread at least a week ago and haven't checked back since the old english lady started going on about her garden. I just popped back on and see it's still going, wow. I guess I'll have to check the group more often. Mike > > > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message > > news:Rkc9e.1895>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Unless you're talking about burning my fingers on some "hot buns" or > sumthin' like that... :q > Holy cow!! :-) I started this thread at least a week ago and haven't > checked back since the old english lady started going on about her garden. Look out. > I just popped back on and see it's still going, wow. I guess I'll have to > check the group more often. > Mike > Holy cow!! :-) A farm animal with a theocratic view of the future. See, we continue to throw in a few farm and gardening tidbits now and then. Aren't we an interesting group. Take care, Julie > I started this thread at least a week ago and haven't > checked back since the old english lady started going on about her garden. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > > http://www.howdydave.com Howdy Julie! I was thinking more along the lines of: > Holy cow!! :-) Anything held in such high esteem that it is improper to criticize it. SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com > > > Holy cow!! :-) [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > > > > > http://www.howdydave.com > > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message > news:Rkc9e.1895>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? Unless you're talking about burning my fingers on some "hot buns" or sumthin' like that... :q SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message news:XXB9e.4166>> >> Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? > > Unless you're talking about burning my fingers on some "hot buns" or > sumthin' like that... :q I have a severe attack of the dejas ... :-) Mary > > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message > news:Rkc9e.1895>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? Unless you're talking about burning my fingers on some "hot buns" or sumthin' like that... :q SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com > > "Dave ©¿©¬" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message > news:Rkc9e.1895>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Guess "burning your fingers" isn't in the lexicon of UK slang, eh? Unless you're talking about burning my fingers on some "hot buns" or sumthin' like that... :q SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com i have done a no no forgot too take pills ..for 4 days......boy was i all messed up.....i thought sacred my friends and family 1/2 too die and even me >i have done a no no forgot too take pills ..for 4 days......boy was i > all messed up.....i thought sacred my friends and family 1/2 too die and > even me Pauline - get back onto them immediately - but gradually if that's how you've been instructed. It will work out well I'm sure, don't think you'll be messed up for ever! Hugs, Mary >i have done a no no forgot too take pills ..for 4 days......boy was i > all messed up.....i thought sacred my friends and family 1/2 too die and > even me You should let your Doctor know, and probably speak to the pharmacist to see if it's a pill that can be Restarted at the dose you were at or if you should speak to the Dr. to find the rate to phase them up. *Some of the pills can mess up your system if **Stopped abruptly. That's likely what you had, I don't know the best way to go back onto a higher dose (if you were on one -- that's where the Dr./ Pharmacy come in. Some pills are fairly forgiving once you're at your target dose, others might not be, that's why the Dr. or Pharmacy could tell you. There's also a Pills Glossary at Ep. Foundation of America http://efa.org but That should only be used for reference, *not for Medical advice). You can get a 7-day Pill case for under $2 at the pharmacy (or free sometimes). Keep a Pill log page if you take 2 or 3 doses during the day, and write the Time in each column *as you take that dose. This will show the time you took it, but also prevent taking *2 doses by mistake. If you see one of Julie Walton's posts around, her Idaho Website Address is at end of her posts. There are other ideas various people (not all posting here) have put up to cope with remembering if we took our pills, First Aid, tips and tricks etc. Should be on a bookmark for easy reference. G./ > > Howdy! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mary Howdy Mary! So... you think I won't burn my fingers if I try to pick you up sometime?? SignatureDave ©¿©¬ http://www.howdydave.com mary dont know if i could hold down a 8 hr day any more any way.....i bruise very easily............... > mary dont know if i could hold down a 8 hr day any more any way.....i > bruise very easily............... er - you weren't a pugilist, were you? <confused :-)> Mary >Let's go guys, I've been watching this group for years and I know there are >a lot more of you out there. >Let's hear your stories. >Mike > > Are you sure you want to hear my story? I'm originally from Iowa :-) and I very much enjoyed reading the stories about the farms and gardens! But seriously... I'm currently unemployed. Spent 20 years working with the same outfit, first as an electronics tech, then production supervision, and finally PC network manager. But then the company went belly-up. I'm finding that the hardest part of job hunting is getting past my own fears (like getting a new company to accept my condition). Of course, running out of money is starting to look pretty scary too! My seizures are mild complex partials which occur in clusters... I have from 2 to 4 seizures every 3 weeks. They are just enough to keep me from driving, and I'm far enough from the city that public transportation is spotty. Anyway, you have to excuse me, I need to plan where I'm going to plant my tomatoes and cucumbers this year. >>Let's go guys, I've been watching this group for years and I know there >>are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Are you sure you want to hear my story? YES! > I'm originally from Iowa :-) > and I very much enjoyed reading the stories about the farms and gardens! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fears (like getting a new company to accept my condition). Of course, > running out of money is starting to look pretty scary too! So you must somehow overcome your fears. Aren't there openings in your speciality? You need money to live, go out and get a job - any job. After twenty years your expertise can't be limited to electronics and IT. > My seizures are mild complex partials which occur in clusters... I have > from 2 to 4 seizures every 3 weeks. They are just enough to keep me [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Anyway, you have to excuse me, I need to plan where I'm going to plant > my tomatoes and cucumbers this year. Indeed - you have to eat :-) Let us know what happens - about the job as well as the toms and cucs! I sowed my tom and cuc seeds today, as well as beets and lettuce. Mary Mary i just wish i had some homegrowns. I bought some store bought tomatoes and all they did was take up space on the sandwich and provide moisture. I remember working for a fruit market in Ohio having "beefsteak" (spelling??) tomatoes and they were the best I ever ate! I just wish I could get some seeds of those to plant. I tried from a package one year but they just weren't the same!... Guess that's why I ain't a gardener like you Mary!!! Wish I were!!! All I can grow is my beard and older!! ~..~ owlvee >>>Let's go guys, I've been watching this group for years and I know there >>>are [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Mary >i just wish i had some homegrowns. I bought some store bought tomatoes and >all they did was take up space on the sandwich and provide moisture. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >weren't the same!... > Guess that's why I ain't a gardener like you Mary!!! Hmm. I wouldn't call myself a agardener, I'm not efficient enough. But I do like to eat the things we grow! > All I can grow is my beard and older!! Same here. Even the beard :-) Mary > ~..~ Hi I'm superintendent at a school for kids aged 4-12. Fortunally I've only had nocturnal seizures, otherwise I never wanted to work with kids... Yes, my seizures have affected my work and study a lot. My IQ is 130, bro & sis both are drs. I... hardly can remember anything due to my seizures. Small seizures started at age ~12. Around that age I started forgetting chapters of books which I read the night before... I tried all kinds of study's, I often finished the first course perfectly, the second below average and during the third course I had completely forgotten the first. Then at age 25 I had my first grand mal, lost a lot of memory and slowly I started noticing my smaller seizures by the sudden memoryloss which I thought was normal before I had the GM. These PM's were confirmed by EEG. So, yes it has affected my job... Fortunately the kids treat me as I treat them, we have a lot of fun, but often it's hard for teachers and other adults to be objective. best wishes, Bart Derks, the Netherlands. | Let's go guys, I've been watching this group for years and I know there are | a lot more of you out there. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | > Thanks, | > Mike Hello, Nice questions. I had epilpesy when I was born, I overgrown epilepsy later on, got absence epilesy in child hood, overgrown it again and now at the age of 30, I got it back again in the form of just one tonic clonic seizure after having a party. Currently I have been seizure free for 14 months (and counting). Epilepsy really never nailed me down as I was able to study, get my degrees and to choose my own career path. Currently I work for a large IT company as a Support Specialist for Exchange Server / Messaging related technologies and I mainly provide support assistance for the enterprise business (second tier help desk so to speak). SignatureThanks. Marco The Netherlands I love this question.. Jim here.....and it's been awhile since I posted. I am a headhunter...recruiter in the IT world in Atlantic Canada and I own a % of the firm.. epilepsy has had an impact on my job,just when I think I can do 12 to 14hr days I get a kick and realize that my body can't deal with that...so I slow down a bit.. Worse part about having epilepsy and my job is short term memory loss"use calendar pop ups a lot to remind me of meetings and stuff".. and slurred speech...I am sure that every so ofter people must think I am drinking when I leave a message for them as my speech sometimes is a bit slurred..but most of my clients are used to me... Been doing this for 10 years at this firm.. Cheers and brilliant question.. most of us as so damn scared to let other people know that we have epiliepsy that we often live in this very protective world ...so... thanks for askin! > Hi all, if you guys don't mind I'd like to take a little poll regarding what > everyone does for a living and if our "little" problem has affected your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Mike |
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